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Bascule for moderator/journalist at El Reg/PM?

Haven't read such a sensible comment for ages...

Just as

people who want to show their über-cool credentials by slating Apple, Apple products and Apple product users care even less about (and are probably strangers to) logic and reason.

@Big_Boomer

"...see above invective..." said Big_Boomer, whose achievements and incisive perception in the world of IT have made him as wealthy and respected as Steve Jobs, as well-known as Bill Gates, and as acclaimed as Jonny Ives.

In the immortal words of Mr. Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"

Well said, Jez!

I'm no great Android fan - I LIKE iOS: but that doesn't mean I consider anyone who prefers Android is less intelligent, or that their viewpoint is less valuable than mine.

I echo "Each to their own." - or, as they say in France, "One man's fish is another man's poisson."

@tmTM:- One assumes it takes one to know one...

"...I know apple fanbois are amound the stupidest of creatures and will happily sell their grandmother for the next iPhone..."

But for the really, REALLY stupidest of creatures look no further than those who decide that using any, or some of Apple's products make you a "fanboi" and that their own take on the whole of technology is so mind-blowingly perceptive, that anyone who ventures to differ in the slightest way is to be treated to execrable invective (usually spittle-flecked).

Steve Jobs hasn't - to the best of my knowledge - performed monkey-boy dances, or hurled furniture around his office.

Don't try to squeeze your irrational prejudice into a case where it doesn't fit...

Well said...

Couldn't agree more, JDX. I've long realised I could never be a Jobs, Gates or Buffet.

Long before I was worth a billion, I would have thought "Sod this for a game of soldiers - I have enough to not have to come to work any more..."

It would be nice to have a few millions to give away though - but to real deserving causes, not just todays PC favourite.

@Matt

Matt,

Succinctly eloquent, as ever. Mind if I copy that out to use at work? :-)

@Mage

Course you can - now.

If there'd never been an Apple, and only a Microsoft, we'd probably still be looking at 16 colours, 1MB RAM max and a command-line interface.

Matt...

...you gotta be in Marketing - or at least work with Marketing - just to have heard some of those phrases...

Either that, or you're closely related to/a fan of Scott Adams.

Well...

It's not as bad as that in the UK:- US patent law is definitely akin to something conceived by Monty Python. The trouble is, its application has affected the mindset of companies all over the world.

That is an ever-growing problem:- that, and US patent attorneys, who have all the rapacity of the Mongol hordes - and their personal morality is at about the same standard

Or contrariwise...

...maybe adult 'Merkins are akin to 13yr olds...

Jaw drops in amazement...

I'm the wrong side of 60, and didn't realise anyone of fewer summers would recall "Spy vs Spy" - ...

Please...

...don't post comments like this at lunchtime.

Have you any idea how long it takes to clean tuna mayo off your screen & its environs?

and so said

the driver of the Morris Minor powered home-made kit car to the Aston Martin driver...

@Justa

I seem to remember the same things being said about the inclusion of USB on the original iMacs way back...

Anti-Apple bigots never change.

And furthermore...

...our new Veep I/C Office Furniture is Mr Ballmer...

But I bet

you run a Windows PC and don't give a stuff about the Microsoft lock-in for life..

..and it's indisputable which company has for years had the morality and ethics of prohibition-era mobsters...

I cannot tell...

...what system the esteemed Mr Lovelock is using:- but I CAN tell that its spellchecker does not work.

It would seem that way...

Can't really understand why. My Mac's great - others might not think so - but hell; lots of people I work with love cheesecake. I can't stand the stuff, but I don't knock it for those who love it..

Who cares?

I care.

I love Macs., but I don't hate PCs.

Strikes me as being a little stupid to generically hate Macs, hate Windows, hate Linux, or hate Unix. I just love best that with which I'm comfortable, and which I find works best & easiest for me.

Getting a little pissed off with those who think their point of view is the only possible valid & correct one in the world, and anyone who differs is some kind of retard and/or deviant...

@Annihilator

The UK system ain't that liberal.

Muggers let off whilst pensioners who don't pay council tax are immediately whipped inside?

Our benevolent liberal overlords don't really get too fazed if we plebs scrap amongst ourselves:- but if anything happens which challenges the authority of the Almighty State (i.e. their authority & position) then heaven help the perpetrator.

And if your perceived to be middle class (how the lefties hate the middle class), then using a water pistol to defend your home & family against armed burglars will as like as not see you incarcerated. The middle class could become a threat to the ruling elite, so they MUST be hammered into submission at every opportunity.

@Freddie

Look around you - it came to Britain some time ago...

dominion?

..or domination?

Silly me, getting Moderatrix & Dominatrix mixed up...

Seriously, SB, good luck in your new venture and our very best wishes always wherever you go & whatever you do**

**Unless it's joining the LibDems, of course.

Poor old John 104

"...average Apple user..."

Pure sophism - or, as the 'average PC user' would more likely say, utter bollocks.

I've had four new Macs (Beige G3, Sawtooth G4, G5 Tower, and recently an 8-core MacPro) in the last 13 years, got my first iPhone 3 months ago, and have had nary a problem. My 6-yr old G5 tower is still in daily use and is a damned sight more usable than any 6-yr old PC would be...

There wouldn't be anyway...

in XXX terms, you lose points for coming first...

@Will

"He may be totally innocent.

He may have been used as 'cannon fodder'.

He may have been set up - yes it really does happen."

Yup. All are totally true,

"He may have been put upon for years by the authorities and just wanted to hit back."

The Brit hierarchy accepting their activities as a mitigating circumstance?

An interesting idea, but I'm sure the establishment would never permit it.

"We can all sit here in our cosy homes secure in the knowledge that it could never happen to us."

Well, those who still have homes can, but those who are a casualty of aberrant bankers possibly can't. As regards it "could never happen to us", I recognise your irony but the likelihood of, and the powers for, the state inflicting similar upon us has grown exponentially over the last decade-decade & a half.

Mostly presided over by that nice Mr Straw - you know, the ex-commie who was such a staunch libertarian in oppostion.

Why do lefties become so draconian when given just a smell of authority?

Nearly...

I believe that this woeful fashion did indeed start behind bars:- and little scrotes adopt this 'fashion' to show "I is a hard gangsta, innit".

However, the drooping strides are generally considered to be due to having had one's belt confiscated (self-toppings are not really wanted on the Governor's record file), rather than an invitation for a little recreational buggery.

@Scott

Every woman I've ever met has had a mind of her own.

With one or two, it was in mint condition, 0 miles on the clock, never been used...

(await severe ticking off from Ms Bee)

I heard you

first time.

Ah Norfolk...

You can count on people from Norfolk....

...up to 12 if you use all their fingers...

@Turtle_Fan

"...I hate Apple with a passion..."

How pointless. How stupid.

You don't use their products but "hate them with a passion"?

Whoa - an anti-fanboi here - just another side of the same coin?

I use a Mac not a PC.

I don't hate HP/Dell/Acer/Anyone else "with a passion"

I use OSX in preference to Windows

I don't hate Microsoft "with a passion"

Reasoned discourse has more value than blind bigotry, but I guess it's less dull. Must be another effect of the tabloid culture pervading society...

Beer? - Have one, bro - and chill.

Nope...

They're definitely NOT passé!

I'd love a quality 27" IPS screen for when I'm working at home.

My budget wouldn't allow it - so I got an NEC EA232WMI 23" IPS. Can't fault it for the price, but I'd still love an equivalent quality 27".

So will a lot of others...

Drug dealers love BMWs.

They're not the only ones who buy/drive them though.

not at all, old lad.

I just prefer females with at least a modicum of intelligence & personality. Those who are attracted solely by a flash motor are generally lacking in both. And it's not a sexist thing - the male sex has its share of vapid shallowness as well.