1647 posts • joined 19 Apr 2007
There's always one...
The fact that those still on Snow Leopard can download Mavericks free - skipping the paid upgrades to Lion & Mountain Lion - seems to have escaped you. I suppose you thought the move from Windows 3.1.1 to Windows 7 was simply a service pack...
Sophistry & bile exemplified.
Re: @Jim 59
"...he just pointed out that parents are stronger than their children..."
Here in the UK, it would be more accurate to say "...parents should be stronger than their children...".
Unfortunately, it isn't always so:- whether you approve of my wording or not, no-one can deny that we now have a significant percentage of parents who, possibly following the example of their own parents, have never shown or indeed found it necessary to show any responsibility for anything in their lives.
Naughty? it’s not your fault; you suffer from ADHD.
Fat/Obese? it’s all the fault of those evil fast-food merchants.
Unsuccessful in life? None of it is your fault (even if you ARE a lazy sod) – it’s your parents’/school’s/employer’s fault.
Can’t be arsed to think? Not your fault (see above) – the nice man/woman on the telly will do it for you.
If such won't even consider accepting any responsibility for their own lives, how the hell can we expect them to accept the heavy responsibilities of parenthood? Far, far too much personal responsibility has been removed from the individual by an intrusive, controlling nanny-state.
This is a definite "cause & effect", and until we address the cause, the effect will grow.
Re: That slight "ding" in the door."Ummmmmmm. It'll cost you a bit, gov."
...then don't let the missus drive it...
Re: No they don't !
"... ignorance is least cost route for Apple..."
Also the default route for some commenters, apparently.
"...didn't find any living Neanderthals..."
Then they weren't looking in the right place. See my earlier comments re Messrs Prescott & Balls - to which could be added the name McCluskey
@Richard 81 18/10/13 11:27
Wouldn't disagree with you there, old lad: I wasn't being partisan - although I wouldn't say your two examples have themselves done a whole load of evolving away from reptiles...
@fandom - 18/10/13 10:42
There are those who haven't done too much evolving...
Are you listening, Mr Prescott & Mr Balls?
I hope your best beloved isn't running with an admin account...
Happened to my sister...
My sister got a little suspicious when "Microsoft Online Security" called - complete with Indian accent - about a 'devastating Windows virus" on her computer.
An iMac running Lion.
She asked me for advice. She brought the football referee's whistle I recommended and kept it by the phone.
It was around three weeks later they called back, and one long loud blast from the whistle, right by the phone's mouthpiece, seemed to put them off.
Wonder if their eardrums have recovered...
Re: I want one @Richard 120
Children should either be down the mines, or up chimneys - in between morning and evening paper-rounds, that is.
Therefore they'll be far too tired to be interested.
We'll tell you what you're going to do:
You tell us why it's not a good idea
We tell you "Tough - it's what you're going to do anyway".
Re: Armed bodyguards with every contract?
Following on from "...It's time for telecommunications giants such as T-Mobile to step up and make meaningful progress towards implementing safeguards that protect consumers against these violent thefts...", the vast majority of muggers prefer cash to mobiles of almost any type.
Since the production of cash is a government monopoly, should that statement not read "It's time for governments to step up and make meaningful progress towards implementing safeguards that protect consumers against these violent thefts,"
Re: Urban dictionary has it about right
Dogs have owners: cats have staff...
...has told me I might have been a WWII fighter pilot in a previous life.
To which I replied "As I started this life in Jan 1950, I can't have been a very good one..."
Re: Hang on..
Not at all:- the ubiquitous X-box was definitely a consumer device success. There's hardly a house with teenage lads (of any age) which doesn't have one.
Whether it's a commercial success is a different matter: I have no idea how much MS makes and has made from the X-box line, as 'expert' testament varies so much.
No, I'm not an avid gamer - I'm a 63 yr old Mac user who wouldn't be interested in a free X-box, but then it's not marketed at me or people like me.
It appears from what I've seen to be an excellent product of its type, and it really is rather silly to slate it just because it's got a Microsoft badge on it. Whatever you think of MS as a company is not the point, but you can't deny that the X-box is a) very successful and b) a damned good product. Sure there have been a few irritations along the way but surprise! these have usually been Marketing-led decisions which have often resulted in a little backtracking.
It's the responsibility of MS beancounters to sort out its commercial viability - and carry the can if they screwed up.
Re: Good efforts
I must say, sandman, I'm pretty much with you 100%.
Be it from Apple, Samsung, Google or whoever - I just can't see the point of a smart watch.
When the first iPod was released, I saw its benefits over my little Walkman which required me to free off the cassette tapes it ate at frequent intervals, and carry umpteen cassettes with me.
When smart phones were first released - usable ones, that is, I saw the benefits and potential benefits over the limitations of my Motorola RAZR.
But I can't see the benefits of a big clunky watch which needs daily charging and appears to do not much more than act as a secondary interface to my phone.
No doubt in the future they will do all sorts of things I can't even imagine now, and prove to be the definitive solution to all the problems I currently don't even realise I've got.
Until then, I'll stick with the Seiko that best beloved bought me 16 years ago which keeps great time, looks good and only needs a new battery every three years or so (I think), and a new leather strap occasionally.
Re: Is it just me?
We see what we want to see...
@AC 15/10/13 20:55
"In the US, iPhones are effectively almost free because phone prices are obscured by the carriers. It's only in the rest of the world that iPhones could be considered expensive status symbols."
Nope:- Here in the UK, phone prices are (and have always been) very obscured by the carriers - I got an iPhone 5 64GB from my carrier with unlimited calls (landlines & mobiles, any network), unlimited texts, and a 2GB monthly data limit for £40/mo on a 2year contract.
How much did I pay upfront for my £700 phone? Nothing, Nichts, Zilch, Nada, Rien.
I use calls & texts heavily - data at 2GB seems so far more than adequate.
Over 2 years, I'll pay £960, so over and above the £700 cost of the phone, for £130/year - £2.50 per week, I get the aforementioned usage and effectively an interest-free loan to buy a phone which, at the end of my contract, will fetch a very good price if I sell it on & upgrade.
I don't think the deal's a bad one - but I'm sure there will be hordes of kiddies who will down vote me on the grounds they've a better seat for 4p/annum, and because I've had the temerity to be happy with my second iPhone. My 2yr old iPhone 4 (immaculate and perfect functionality) sold for £250 at the end of its contract...
@Eradicate all BB entrants 15/10/13-15:16
Shame I can't up vote more than once - but I can state here that I wholeheartedly agree with every word.
Unfortunately personal responsibility is one characteristic which too many of our soi-disant élite seem determined to nanny out of the populace:-
Surely it couldn't be that unthinking sheep are easier to control & use, could it?
'...Although, on the BBC they say "an historic"...'
On the Beeb, they often (and repeatedly) say a lot of things which are complete cobblers - or are the latest fad amongst the oh-so-precious chatterati
Re: The stock market
But who would employ them? What would they do?
Surely they can't all be recycled as pet food...
"...They are universally the worst possible people for the job..."
I wholeheartedly concur:- in fact I firmly believe that a strong desire to stand for election should be grounds for being barred from so doing.
Re: Very few
Not so:- nearly all countries (even Zimbabwe) claim to have honest elections: it's those who actually do have honest elections who are very few in number.
@ The Don (5/10/13 16:36 GMT)
"...They are there to enforce justice..."
Sorry, for once I can't agree with you: They are there to enforce The Law.
Which frequently has very little to do with justice...
Re: It doesn't matter if it's any good
"...well known economic fact..."
The epithet "well known" is so often applied to something which has just been coined, in order to endow it with validity, gravitas and credibility.
".. 'snob goods' -- goods that costs much more than their worth..."
Assigning that category or description to any product is totally subjective, and not in the least objective.
Your criteria for assessing the inherent value of something might well differ from my criteria, and Joe Bloggs' criteria might well differ from both.
Re: It doesn't matter if it's any good
"There is no correlation between quality and success any more."
Are you claiming that despite the success of Android products, they're not necessarily quality products?
Yes I did miss them out. I presumed that the average Reg reader/commenter was smart enough to recognise & appreciate irony (or sarcasm) when they encountered it.
1) Don't you recognise irony - or even sarcasm?
2) I'm English - which as far as I'm concerned is part of the rest of the world
3) Now please go back & read my comment again.
Can't see anything wrong with the idea;- except I can't see the NSA/CIA types relinquishing any control which they consider is their God-given right.
After all, it's all in the interests of preserving our freedom, and if we have to be regulated, ordered, confined, monitored and become subject to constant & continuous surveillance, then Hell! That's a small price to pay to continue to be free...
Re: How very ironic of him.
Hell! I'd write a cheque for 30 Million to NOT have to live next door to Mr Z.
Re: If the figures regarding Mac sales are correct...
Well one of the reasons for declining Windows PC sales is not specifically Windows 8 - or even Windows 7 or even Vista. I am aware of many corporate entities who won't upgrade their H/W because it's still happily running XP - and at least half a dozen techiesI've spoken to in the last few months are unconcerned at the demise - as far as Redmond is concerned - of XP. I have heard comments like "We'll buy in support" and "Our firewall handles all our security".
Are they right?
Only time will tell - but when you're not running extremely testing software such as graphics packages, there simply isn't the pressure to upgrade.
As a previous commenter wrote, only graphics types, video types & gamers really need to chase the newest developments. Office 2007 running under XP continues to run as it always did - and that is sufficient for huge numbers of corporate users.
Re: AC - Friday 11th October 2013 12:37 GMT
A breath of fresh air:- a sensible, non-personal and non-partisan rational comment. I wish I could up vote you more than once.
@ MyBackdoor:- You might not like it, but...
...the arrival of Mavericks appears to be, on the whole, rather more eagerly awaited than an update to a new O/S which has been so widely panned by so many.
Re: Ted Treen
Not at all:- my (many) recent posts express approval of Surface/Windows/Android users who state that what they've opted for suits them. It's the third-form standard of poorly expressed tribal comments such as yours which I find irritating.
At one time, El Reg used to be full of detailed factual reporting, with considered rational analysis where appropriate but nowadays one feels that it's akin to buying the Daily Telegraph and finding it to be produced by the same folks who produce Viz.
Don't get me wrong - Viz can be quite entertaining, but not if it's masquerading as a serious publication.
I certainly expect something more from correspondents/journalists than juvenile playing to the gallery and sophistry.
Your whole comment - if you think about it - shows you to be steeped in that which you erroneously & unthinkingly accuse me of. I could finish, like you do, with some childish comment regarding you and your character - but I prefer not to sink to such levels.
Biblical comments concerning planks and eyes come to mind.
All this whilst people are awaiting new machines. Also, the anticipated release of OSX Mavericks is hardly something which can compare to the release of Windows 8.1
As El Reg's scribbler knows only too well.
Still, reality has never got in the way of a Myslewski-inspired trollfest, has it?
Clearly, Mr M is a Trollmeister among Trollmeisters.
Re: Be nice
If you add the word "allegedly" it's usually sufficient (so far) to squash any attempted legals, and many streetwise readers will recognise the heavy irony in the use of the word...
Re: "loss-making postal service"?
Whatever:- It's still being sold only because of an EU diktat that demands so.
@AC 11_10_13 10:23
"...If only it was their own money..."
They think it is.
Our only role is to do the work to earn it, and happily let them rifle through our wallets at will.
Nice one:- reminding Mr Plod of the law.
No, the other law:- "The Law of Unintended Consequences"..
Good for EasyDNS
I am a believer in law & order - who in their right mind wouldn't be?
However, I applaud the stand taken by EasyDNS in that when told by Mr Plod to bend over, their response is to remind the authorities that if the police wish to enforce the law, the police must abide by the law, and a company is only obliged to comply with a police request when that request is lawful, backed by the legal system and not because it is the whim or fancy - no matter how justifiable - of an individual officer or group.
Justice must itself be above suspicion, open and transparent - although I would concur with those who might say we're not quite there yet.
"...the inevitable round of bugs and subsequent fixes that will accompany the release of OX 10.9..."
or, more correctly:-
"...the inevitable round of bugs and subsequent fixes that will accompany the release of insert s/w name..."
Modern software is so complex compared with the COBOL & RPGII stuff I used to write nearly forty years ago, that it is impossible to pre-test against every set of and combination of circumstances during its beta phase.
If it were attempted, we'd have gestation periods of many years, and even decades between new releases.
She has had an effect on you, hasn't she?
I trust your reference "...the EU concepts of "human rights"..." was made with at least a little irony.
Also, one has to remember that although Turkey claims to have a secular government, Erdogan himself is a closet Islamist, just not with the robes, headgear & AK to which we are more accustomed. Should Turkey gain membership of the EU, I believe - YMMV - that that would be yet another urgent justification for Britain's withdrawal from said organisation.
We are already - thanks to that nice Mr Blair & that nice Mr Brown - nourishing rather too many vipers in our bosom.
Re: This also highlights the only advantage iPhone users have
There's always one, isn't there?
Re: The Jobs word was just another piece of marketing
You can take almost any product or service and say individual components or aspects are meaningless when isolated:- it's when the total is greater than the sum of the components that you have a great product or service.
Still, you're putting your Masters in Sophistry to good use...
UK banks failed because they had no cash, rather than because they were sitting on a cash mountain.
They had lent money to sub-primes, collateralised those debts, and sold them to other greedy banks, and bought similar from the other greedy banks, paid themselves huge bonuses counting as assets complex collateralisations which were in fact liabilities as they hadn't got a snowball's chance in hell of ever being repaid.
It wouldn't be El Reg if the Obertrollbahnführer didn't scour the media for an anti-Apple story that could be presented as a trollfest...
@getHandle 05/10 18:36
"You can buy a Nexus 4 for half the price of a iPhone 4"
You can also buy a Jaguar XK for less than half the price of an Aston Martin.
Which proves what, precisely?
Re: Surface RT - I have one
Why in God's name have you collected so many downvotes? You say you've got a Surface RT, and it does what you bought it for, and you're happy with it.
So why so many downvotes? Are there so many who think you should only be happy with what they approve of, and that you shouldn't make decisions of your own?
I couldn't care less what your criteria are - that's your business. If you're happy with your choice, then good for you!
I have a MacPro, an iPhone5 and an iPad mini - and I'm very happy with all of them. No doubt I'll get hordes of downvotes from those who think I should be burned at the stake for daring to not follow the mob...
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