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'Steele earlier this week pleaded not guilty in San Mateo County Superior Court to charges "that he rang doorbells while naked"'...
What kind of legislative weirdo would actually make it an offense "to ring doorbells while naked"?
I'd like to think it was just Merkins, but then I look at our own collection of Millibands, Balls, Harridan Harperson, the Prince of Darkness, etc., and I'm now wondering if there IS a legislator (anywhere) who isn't a 28 carat, one hundred percent weirdo..
@AC 14th August 2009 09:04
"I don't see the problem with giving the police your name though, if they ask then tell them." - AC 14th August 2009 09:04.
The problem is, it's a slow but inexorable erosion of our liberties, and a slow, equally inexorable extension to the powers of Plod - granted to themselves by themselves, without the authority of the legislature.
Theoretically at least, Plod polices us WITH OUR CONSENT, and has power(s) granted by the Legislature i.e. our elected representatives TO WHOM PLOD IS (or should be) ACCOUNTABLE.
Setting themselves above this is the ideal blueprint towards a totalitarian police state - and although the point in question may initially seem intrinsically innocuous, remember the old Chinese saw "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." - Lao-tzu, Chinese philosopher (604 BC - 531 BC)
the British people have not been the stuff of which revolutions are made.
We're getting there.
Will this save me money?
Despite 20 yrs using Macs, Photoshop etc., I still use my Nikon 35mm systems - still preferring Fujichrome (+ my Nikon film scanner) to digital.
Does this now mean that if Plod demands to see my photographs, I can expect Plod to pay for the processing of my Fujichrome, and to pay restitution + compensation if they "lose" my transparencies?
No, we didn't need them 'cos the civvy population wasn't running around like a headless chickens convention, too scared to even fart.
Our security forces managed as well as could be expected, but we were blessed with the enormous funding sent to the terrorists by our colonial cousins - the misty-eyed Sons of Erin whose families hadn't set foot in Ireland for 5 or 6 generations...
Their judiciary also refused point-blank to send any escaped convicted felons back, claiming they were "just poor disadvantaged freedom fighters".
Funny how their point of view changed somewhat after a) Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City, and b) the events of 9/11.
The Brits have, down the years, been just too bloody-minded and obstreperous for a terrorist campaign to really succeed, and it's that very fact which alarms our current apology for a government, and encourages them to institute a permanent state of alert (and, they hope, fear) in order to render us more malleable and controllable.
We should ensure they never succeed.
from ANOTHER elderly (well, 59-ish) bloke
Not so, old son.
Serving police officers are just one example where BNP membership is prohibited.
It is the the thin end of the wedge where to be a plod, local government officer or whatever, you have to have the "right" political views.
This is extremely dangerous, and a frightening tool in the hands of the control-freak apology for a government under which we currently suffer.
Should we permit this to flourish? If so, how long until total support for NuLab becomes a pre-requisite for ANY public sector post? (Except for the armed forces, of course, as we know the contempt NuLab have for them).
"New Labour sometimes makes Orwells 1984 look less like a work of fiction and more like a documentary." - Blitz
Nearly true, old lad.
They have in fact, adopted it as an instruction manual & party manifesto.
It has been in use since 1994 within the party, and imposed on the rest of us since '97.
Ten years ago, I was accused of being paranoid. Today, I am hailed for my perspicacity.
...just how many NuLab apparatchiks are used to track & trace any comment/communication to a Gov website.
That's bad enough, but to be fired for having your own opinion is so typical of this Stalinist Caledonian dictatorship currently occupying my country.
I hope they don't come the old "fired for mis-using web access" crap as that would make them look even more ridiculous - if possible. We all know that no "offence" would have been committed had there been an anonymous sycophantic post, don't we?
When do they open the "Camps for Political Re-education"?
Good grief, man:- a comment of common sense! Whatever next? No doubt you'll be flamed...
"...those occasions where the machine is the recipient of spilt liquids...".
I've never thought of making a laptop "the recipient of spilt liquids".
Is there any advantage in doing so?
@AC 23rd June 2009 13:35 GMT
"Wow, when did the British Navy Ship building become so bad? From a top flight Navy in the past to this?"
Since a minority in Britain, assisted by boundary gerrymandering by Labour, voted this shower of incompetents in three times in a row.
Brown's disdain for the armed forces is palpable, and his desire to irreversibly change the face of society through his doolally social engineering agenda has proved disastrous.
I read this morning that Labour's support has halved, which came as a total surprise.
I could not believe that after the events since 1997 that there are still those who say that Labour is the answer.
To which I can only say that it must have been a bloody stupid question, and perhaps it is time that we instituted basic intelligence and comprehension tests before enfranchising people.
A plague and a pox on Brown, his followers, and all their houses.
I suppose I won't be the first...
...to point out that our rebel colonial cousins long since forswore using correct English.
It has been a deliberate policy of theirs to abjure anything reminiscent of Mother England (e,g, manners, politeness, consideration, etc.) so one assumes that's why they have abandoned precision in language and communication.
Shock! Horror! Gasp!
Plod complies with court order???
All we need now is the Whacky one (and the Home Office) to do likewise, and I'll have to go and lie down for a while in a darkened room....
(It'll probably happen soon anyway:- 42 days in Room 101)
The Dirty Digger's minions are the first to scream if they are asked to identify any of their sources - but it seems no-one else is to be afforded the same courtesy/consideration.
So a DC who tells it how it is is now admonished and his career will be blighted (c'mon, you KNOW it will) all for vainglorious hypocritical hacks.
"...what the law states it has to and when the judgement goes in the plaintiff's favour the Government will have obey the court..."
You mean just like the Government has obeyed the European Court's ruling on DNA retention by Plod?
Your faith in the system is touching, but most of us would not trust this Government to tell us the time...
If it's true...
...that a population gets the government it deserves, then the population of the UK - or at least a majority of them - must be so incompetent and moronic that I'm amazed they are allowed to be outside an institution.
'Cos nothing, nichts, nul, nada, zero that has been centralised to Whitehall, or had a "Czar" appointed by this unreal set of incompetent bastards we have in place of a proper government has ever worked, or had the slightest effect.
Spin, spin & more spin.
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose
I'm a Mac man - even a fanboy - BUT I'm often asked to look at the Windows boxes of various friends who've got system which are well & truly nadgered.
With a little moderate interrogation applied to the user (i.e. limited use of the cosh, cattleprod & Agadoo tapes) I have found that over the last few years, more & more occurrences are due to what is laughingly called "social proliferation" (when it's damned ANTI-social to perpetrate it).
So, as always, the weakest link in ANY system is the liveware: the cheaper & more commonplace systems become, the greater the number that are bought by those who will just turn it on & use it, without any form of driving lesson, learning etc. With an ever-increasing pool of totally non-savvy users, life becomes a little easier for the ungodly.
Driving tests for computers, anyone?
We do already...
"If it takes more than 18hours then perhaps the requester should then have to foot the salary bill to go looking for it.."
The requester already foots the bill for the salary (and pension) of these drones. It's called "tax".
The drones used to be called "Public servants".
"So presumably this is a green light to employ the dimmest, slowest most naturally awkward people.."
Richard, old lad - you've just described most of officialdom and virtually all of government. Don't forget that the main reason they are employed in those sectors is that they are otherwise unemployable.
And as with a stagnant pool, the scum rises to the top.
This pretentious little twat is an insult to art and to humanity.
May something unspeakably dreadful happen to her.
"....if this resentment spills over into active disobedience, then for a while at least, the British population may become just that bit less governable...."
Both the "if" and the "then" are situations which are long overdue.
It is the total disinterest/meek compliance of the British electorate with the cloud-cuckoo governance of recent years which has permitted - even encouraged - the ungodly to progress from silliness to stupidity to outright certifiable looniness.
A little touch of at least the Ghandis, or preferably the Jack Cades would go down exceedingly well.
I'm becoming concerned....
There have been times when I have felt it appropriate to remonstrate mildly with those whose vocabulary seems to be limited to basic (very) Anglo-Saxon.
More and more I now find myself thinking at least, in those very same terms & colloquialisms whenever the current (mal)administration is mentioned.
Since I am now only too aware of the effect that any mention of the current apology-for-a-government induces in even the most mild-mannered, might I offer sincere apologies to those I have berated unfairly.
As for the miscreants in the Palace of Westminster, may a herd of dysenteric elephants crap on the entire gang of wankers from an exceedingly great height, and drown the disgusting fuckers in a sea of semi-solid shit.
There - I'm still perturbed, but I can't think of a better way to express my feelings.
It is more & more apparent that a strong desire to be a legislator OR politician should be sifficient grounds to bar you from being either.
You know it makes sense
...and I was thinking that this sort of almost unbelievable idiocy could only occur under Whacky & her tame Stasi.
Now I see why Grinning Tony sucked up so much to the US authorities - nowhere else on Earth could he find such a concentration of morally suspect, technologically ignorant, all-round gormless cretins. No wonder he & NuLab felt so comfortable & at home with them.
And before I'm flamed for anti-Americanism, let me stress that I have no problem at all with the average US citizen - at least those whom I have met & sometimes worked with. Perhaps the USA has a job-creation scheme for mentally & morally incompetent morons, and they call it "Politics" and/or "The Legal System". If that is so, then it's nother thing we have in common...
@AC Monday 18th May 2009 20:11 GMT
In a word, Sir - Piffle!
Plod (theoretically) exercises his judgement as to whether certain behaviour is contrary to the law; which is NOT the same thing as re-interpreting/stretching the law. The difference is subtle, but important nonetheless.
If their judgement is palpably wrong they may face civil and indeed, criminal penalties.
To blatantly abnegate the authority of the court is certainly contempt - unacceptable from a Chief Constable.
He desrves the full force of the courts to descend upon him - pour encourager les autres - and perhaps being a timely reminder to Plod that they are public servants - NOT public masters.
As such, they must be seen to completely comply with the laws which they uphold/enforce. Any other course of action should be grounds for dismissal, or at least immediate suspension.
...the legalities, bringing proof of such a systematic abuse of our tax payments should attract a public interest immunity.
Failure to recognise this will smear 'the authorities' even more, and widen the gap of cynicism currently existing (and growing) between the government and the governed.
Put simply, they've had their chance and blown it and any attempt to pursue the whistle-blowers will be seen as an act of petty vindictive revenge.
That will go such a long way to restore our credence in Parliament & it's members...
Here we go again...
Plod is subject to the same laws & court orders as the rest of us. It is NOT Plod's place to interpret the laws.
Plod enforces the laws as they are written - M'learned friends & beaks do any necessary interpretation (and often unnecessary re-interpretation).
Whatever the moral aspects of these hard drives, permitting Plod to ignore court rulings and allowing them to enforce the law-as-they-think-it-should-be rather than the law-as-it-is is a fearful step further down the police-state road upon which NuLab seems hell-bent.
Just when you thought...
....they couldn't get any more hopeless & incompetent, they turn round & surprise you.
How in God's name has this country endured three terms of the most concentrated collection of retards this side of the Bush residence?
I just had to....
Rate it as "Oh orgasmic"....
Coat & cold shower.....
Schmidt (and her equally unpleasant predecessors) have deliberately created their own politically-motivated Cheka.
But they are too incompetent - or just plain too dumb - to have made any contingency plans for the situation (becoming very likely) when the creation spirals out of control, and turns against, and bites its master.
This does not bode well for the rest of us..
Back in 42 days (internal haemorrhage permitting)
Just fodder for a) The Press and b) The gullible.
When petty officials & jobsworths are given ANY powers, have they EVER given these powers up? or have they EVER been effectively rescinded? Answer - not in a million years.
Damian Green was obviously part of a terrorist plot to shatter the very fabric or our society, by showing Wacky to be an incompetent, venal cow with no saving grace(s) thus fomenting FUD in the general population, and now the wacky one thinks that making a cosmetic change to the verbiage, whilst in reality sweet bugger all changes, will result in us all viewing her as a latter day Joan of Arc, the heroine who restored our civil liberties & freedoms..
IMHO Jacqui, you're still a miserable, venal, incompetent, arrogant and deeply unpleasant power-crazy loon.
I quote "Wacky Jacqui has also promised a review of the national DNA database after the Home Office lost its final appeal to the European Court of Human Rights and was told to delete entries for innocent people."
The court to which NuLab genuflects says to her "You're breaking the law: You're guilty: Do this"...
Wacky "studies the ruling" - I seriously doubt she could effectively study The Beano - and "promises a review".
If one of Wacky's personal Chekists (The Met, inter alia) grabs me on suspicion of being a Brazilian Electrician, and I survive long enough to be dragged to the Bailey, and a tame loony liberal-lefty idiot of a judge tells me to do 12 months, would I be able to toddle off home saying "I will study the ruling", and "I promise to review my activities (sometime)"?
Even Obersturmbahnfuhrer Schmidt is subject to the law! How then does she continue to ignore it when it doesn't suit her, or is "inconvenient"?
As (theoretically) free citizens it is our right to rebel.
It is fast becoming our civic duty.
A voice of common sense: A trojan is definitely not a virus, as you say, but It has to be installed, and is therefore reliant upon the PICNIC* virus, which is all too common.
* Problem In Chair Not In Computer
Some things I won't be told.....
I will be replacing my K-RAZR shortly. I would like an iPhone - but it's not available from Orange. I've been with Orange - on contract - for over 10 years and haven't had a problem. In fact I've always found them to be obliging & helpful.
I am just not going to change my telephone service provider to get an iPhone - and I'm an Apple fan and have been a Mac user for over 20 years.
I often wonder how many there are who, like me, would have an iPhone but aren't prepared to change networks.
Still, the Samsung M8800 Pixon looks quite nice....
BH - 'cos whatever I get will be monitored by the whacky one.
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