1616 posts • joined 19 Apr 2007
I'll drink to that...
Sensible unemotional reality. Such pragmatism is rare in forums. I couldn't have put it so succinctly.
They're going to become R-E-A-L-L-Y rich through selling a product for £0.00 or €0.00, or $0.00 (delete according to preferred currency).
Yeah, my Macs have been free from the fruits-of-the-ungodly for 11 or 12 years - last "nasty" was the Autostart 9805 worm back in the late nineties, in pre-OSX days.
I STILL run AV though - if only to catch "Windows" nasties, so I don't pass anything on to my poor benighted acquaintances.
They've enough grief without my adding to it, poor blighters!
Three thumbs down, eh?
I see some of the "Steve Jobs is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse" brigade have been taking their medication, and their nursey's let them near a 'puter...
FUD, supposition & rumour
stated as fact.
"Not that Apple is a member of the new Task Force which will be defining the standard for software SIMs, but the hand of Steve Jobs is clearly visible..."
In the author's (overworked) imagination perhaps.
Or is paranoia about a machiavellian über-puppet-meister the new standard?
You owe me a keyboard...
Curiouser & curiouser...
My nephew loves his iPhone. He's a Windows network administrator.
I'm still perfectly happy with my Samsung Pixon M8800. I'm a graphic designer and a Mac techie - even a fanboy.
Neither of us are sad or unfocused, mentally or otherwise.
This is nothing more than a "quiet day page-filler".
"the risk of death or injury from such an attack is far lower than accidental death or even murder by a family member."
You obviously know some of MY family...
"....I do want my taxes spent wisely....."
Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy, too?
The holier than thou attitude to which you allude is generally merely a reaction to the execrable diatribes of invective aimed at them (which we can imagine is spittle-flecked) from a certain section of Windows lovers.
And for what?
It's usually a case of resentment that we can easily achieve things where they're having to jump through hoops and demonstrate their über-geeky superiority by battling the machine & its OS before they can successfully carry out similar actions.
To hell with that - I just prefer to get on and do what I want to do...
"8 times faster for the same price? You're talking out of your arse."
My sentiments exactly. But almost without exception, the "Look at me! I'm too cool to like Apple" brigade are long on wishful thinking sophistry and short on reason.
If Jobs & Ives found a cure for Aids, Ebola virus, brought peace to the Middle East and ended African famine, you can bet your last penny these people would still be spewing out spittle-laden invective...
...drives me mad on Windows by filling the whole goddamn screen, when all I want is to fit to the doc contained therein:- I STILL have to manually resize so I can see other docs, or have two in view to copy & paste between...
It's just a case of which is most familiar to you and hence seems the norm.
Dumb, it ain't!
"Ballmer seems to agree with him."
and this is a recommendation?
of what the previous posters said!
They could merge senior officers (halve the number of taxpayer-provided Mercs immediately), merge "performance monitoring" staff, merge "diversity" trainers then they just might realise how many unwarranted & unnecessary non-plod personnel they have.
Save money by cutting waste & profligacy:- not by cutting staff who actually do something.
You are Charlie Brown and I claim my prize.
So THAT'S where...
being a 'Merkin, he's known as "Chuck Schmuck"?
"We used to have an education system that was the envy of the world. Where did it all go wrong?"
Politicians, politicians and politicians.
Most British are uninterested in politics (and who can blame them) so the ones we have are basically the lowest common denominator elected by those who don't understand and don't care.
So we're well on our way to hell in a handcart.
Unless sufficient remember that rebellion is the right of every citizen - and sometimes a moral duty.
backup contingency plans can only be properly tested if they're stress-tested. i.e. in the event of the contingency occurring for which they're designed.
If they're found wanting, then think again.
See multitudinous outages experienced by virtually every bank, every ATM network, every POS system etc. in recent times.
We live in a world reliant on complex real-time systems.
We also live in a world where shit happens.
It is no sin to make a mistake: it IS a sin to repeat the same mistake...
Paris? - just 'cause I mentioned sinning...
...you're using Photoshop on a non-Apple platform, and are happy with it, then why TF should you be concerned about its availability on the Mac.
Yup, I use CS5 on my Mac Pro.
Nope, I couldn't care less that it's also available on other platforms.
Your attitude is so much like the Honecker approach - stop VWs coming in so they'll have to have Trabants.
And you call someone else "Big Brother"? - oh, the irony!
iLife goes from strength to strength - Joe Consumer likes iMovie...
Don't see the Final Cut Pro team wearing sackcloth & ashes & proclaiming the end is nigh...
Don't propogate hysterical sophistry.
I've never (in over 30 years' IT work) seen an EULA which certifies anything as "Bug-free" - effectively or otherwise.
For anyone to do that the app would have to be exhaustively tested on every conceivable permutation of hardware, with every conceivable permutation of configuration & set-up, with every conceivable permutation of concurrent software and in every conceivable permutation of circumstances.
In every conceivable permutation of the foregoing.
75-year software gestation periods, anyone?
Well said Dave93
A concise and accurate appraisal. The world appears to be full of Chicken Lickens screaming that the sky is falling, and they appear to equate opening an App store with a total monopoly/control over what you can buy for your Mac.
Can you only buy a Mac from an Apple Store?...........er, no.
Can you only add iTunes purchases to an iPod..........er, no.
Can we expect this irrational hatred of
Apple & Steve Jobs to abate, and be
replaced with reasoned discourse?............................er, probably not.
There is no disadvantage:-
Same old same old...
Just another chapter in the "Let's equate anything Apple does with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the coming of the Antichrist and the end of civilisation as we know it" saga.
Same stuff was spewed out at the opening of the first Apple Store:- the imminent demise of the Mac distribution channel, the immininent collapse of Mac sales, the immediate end of non-Apple Mac software, - ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
It's all getting rather predictable and rather tedious...
What, me panic?
If Steam usage plummets, that would be a commercial choice of Mac users - and nothing to do with Apple. Preventing Apple opening an App store to protect Steam's revenue stream can also be rightly construed as monopolistic.
Apple's Apple Stores aren't viewed as monopolistic because you can buy your Mac from wherever you like.
Ditto Mac software.
Only if you're restricted to the App store alone, could it be viewed as anything like monopolistec.
Most people in the world AREN'T in the US...
Of course it will...
...by all those highly-paid analysts (guessers, to you & me) who will use it to predict the total collapse of Apple, Western Democracy and the arrival of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
This will of course, be accompanied by cackles of glee from those whose sole raison d'etre appears to be to heap invective upon Apple & Mac users - that is, when they're not cleaning the flecks of spittle from their screens, or mopping up the dribble from their keyboards...
the fact that Apple's systems are at a very similar price to similarly-specced Windows boxes.
Are Dell made in idyllic circumstances, by happy smiling assemblers employed in a state of benevolent altruism?
Nothing more rabid than the spittle-flecked invective of the anti-apple brigade, despite their arguments being virtually 100% sophistry.
Still, never let facts or veracity get in the way of a good self-important rant.
Bet you a MacBook Pro to a Vaio/ThinkPad etc. that it will never happen.
Harbingers of imminent doom/1984/the-end-of-civilisation-as-we-know-it are getting too numerous.
Anyone for a cull?
If a lawyer's any good, he wouldn't still need to practise...
Whilst I've upvoted you...
...I can't help wondering if it's a secret underground lab, how come you know that it exists, and you know what's going on there...
Unless your name's "Igor"...
and you started work for Mr Gates' grandpappy...
and you had a hunch....
Now I WILL get my coat!
To be fair to the Iveses & Jobses...
"run of the mill, average quality, nothing special devices. they were lucky ..."
With sales now heading towards 300,000,000 (three hundred million), just think what they could have achieved had they produced something special...
I really wish I could invent, develop & market something so equally un-special
Look back on it:-
No doubt everything you've called "Fail" over the last ten years has gone on to sell in huge quantities. Damn good thing that Steve Jobs doesn't run his ideas past JP19 for informed approval first, isn't it?
Not another one...
"I have an urge to show that I'm far too cool to bother about Apple, so I'll just resort to name-calling about those who actually use & appreciate the machines".
I suppose you would berate Ferrari on the grounds that their latest offering won't let you fasten a plough to it and ready a field for sowing - and a 'proper' car MUST have a manual advance-retard lever, a starting-handle and acetylene headlamps.
If you think it's unsuitable for your needs - then don't buy it.
The thought that only those who are in accord with your line of thinking are normal, and those who dare to disagree automatically qualify for insulting invective is not something which I would recognise as a sign of mature or reasoned discourse.
Knee-jerk anti-Apple diatribe alert...
If unauthorised charging accessories caused harm to a MacBook, or batteries to self-immolate, no doubt you'd be amongst the first to heap invective upon Apple.
Any excuse, justified or not...
you mean FEWER options? - Or is it that you have the same number of options, but each one is smaller, somehow?
Enough of this, already...
I've just entered my seventh decade:-
I LIKE Star Wars.
I LIKE Clangers.
I LIKE Tom & Jerry.
I LIKE Roobard & Custard.
Growing old is a matter of time.
Growing up is a matter of choice.
Not quite correct...
"How do you think Wall Street sets the target? From info Apple gives them - they're not just picking numbers wildly out of the air"...
It's their interpretation of the info they get from Apple - otherwise every analyst would come up with identical results, and they would be classed as lowly-paid clerks.
You might just as well say that a punter should get everything right, because they can all see the SP & previous form from the racing pages.
Apple are renowned for marching to their own drum, and they do not feel the need to pay servile obeisance to highly-paid guessers (analysts). Quite rightly so.
"This is Mac vs PC all over again, same issue: choose between paying a premium for being locked into the playground or free to roam, more risks but more choice, more benefits and cheaper. And after 20 years of Mac/PC which business model has proven the most popular?"
Pure sophistry old Son.
I've been a happy Mac user for over 20 years because I've always found the MacOS to be IMHO easier to use and more stable than the various contemporary versions of Windows.
"Locked into the playground"???
I haven't yet found anything I want to do with my Macs that I can't, or that would necessitate acquiring a Windows machine. There may be more variations of standard software types written for Windows as a platform, but how many spreadsheets, or word processors do you need to run? 14 of each?
I couldn't care what others use, but a lucid cogent argument would be preferable to the blind tribal rant which does characterise so many MAC-PC discussions.
When these 'discussions' degenerate (all too often) into yar-boo-sucks name-calling, I switch off. As long as I'm happy with my preferred choice, and it continues to be available, I'm happy. I really don't care if others are using Windows, Linux or even nursing CPM/86 machines, or DEC PDPs.
Enjoy what you've chosen, get a life and accept that others might differ.
You gotta be kidding....
"Western democracies are open and fragmented. The Soviet Union was tightly controlled, integrated and closed. Which model is still around ?"
I can only assume you've done a Rip Van Winkle & haven't experienced the same last thirteen years in the UK which I have.
"Anyone who doesn't agree with our pinko liberal bias will, of course, end up dead in a ditch with a bullet in the back of his head. ®"...
...and in common with the other workers' paradise states, will you be invoicing the victim's - sorry, -perpetrator's family for the coust of the bullet?
Of course not..
There will be Monopolies commission which will compete with a Mergers commission, 'cos as any fule kno, competition breeds efficiency & gives the consumer choice...
I prefer 'thino"
"Federal prosecutors decided not to press charges because they found there was no criminal intent."
That must mean they're going to leave Gary McKinnon alone, now...
Yup, spot on!
Everything nasty is the fault of those wicked Tories:
Everything from the boil on my bum to global warming.
Now if only we'd left those wonderful Labour chappies in power, we would have no debt, no financial crisis, HMRC would be incredibly efficient, caring, compassionate and understanding. and all would be peace & love throughout the entire country, planet, and (probably) the universe...
You already said this...
Tosh repeated is still tosh.
You are Steve Ballmer and I claim my prize.
I suppose so - it's only a variant of the oldest profession, after all...
(and sincerely hope) that you WEREN'T joking...
That's no different to saying Ferrarri/McLaren/Rolls Royce have for years lived off Michelin's investment.
Utter tosh fuelled by irrational prejuduce.
Yeah, but no, but yeah...
Terrific. Oodles of shiny new nuclear-powered (with dilithium crystals) kit in my local exchange, so fast I can read tomorrow morning's news headlines tonight.
Er, hold on a sec - there's no cable TV in our village, and all our phone lines are above-ground-on-poles aluminium cables installed in the early 1960's when Katanga's attempted secession led to a shortage of, and explosion in the price of copper.
I have BT's up-to-8MB deal, and generally attain speeds of 5.5MB, which I consider to be almost miraculous, given the infrastructure.
I can't see that this will make a scrap of difference to me, with many hundreds of yards of Al cable twixt me & the exchange.
- Just TWO climate committee MPs contradict IPCC: The two with SCIENCE degrees
- 14 antivirus apps found to have security problems
- Feature Scotland's BIG question: Will independence cost me my broadband?
- Apple winks at parents: C'mon, get your kid a tweaked Macbook Pro
- FTC to mobile carriers: If you could stop text scammers being jerks that'd be just great