1638 posts • joined 19 Apr 2007
To use a motoring analogy, you are claiming only those who buy kit-cars and assemble them themselves are proper motorists - unlike those "halfwits" (as you so delicately put it) who buy a ready-made car from a dealer because all they have to do is turn a key & drive off.
"..PC ownership is wholly and significantly much, much, much greater than Apple ownership.." Probably so - but then going back to my motoring analogy, Vauxhall Nova ownership is wholly and significantly much, much, much greater than Jaguar/Ferrarri/Bentley ownership - proving what, exactly?
I don't think the OP would be best pleased to hear his kids described (inaccurately & unfairly) as dumb, any more than I would be delighted to hear my wife described as dumb simply because she drives (and drives very well) but she would not be able to balance twin SU carbs, change the &*^%£$ bypass hose on an original Mini or retime an engine with a strobe lamp.
Most people today want something they can just use without getting their hands (metaphorically) dirty. Just as the days of the sought-after Chauffeur/Mechanic have passed, many of us who do delve inside the box of our computers are finding our talents to be unnecessary, and yes - it's a blow to our egos to find we no longer have the almost hero-worship we enjoyed some years ago, but that's progress. Ranting about it doesn't and won't help.
I switched focus to Macs in the late 1980's for that very reason - I realised that the techie knowledge I had acquired & used since the 1970's was on its way to becoming no longer needed.
My Grandad used to tinker with his car in the 1920's at least every week - frequently more often - just to keep it going. Me? I just take ours to the dealer every 12,000 miles, and I only check the consumables (oil, water, tyres etc.) every weekend.
On the Mac? I just back up the HDs and little else. I can do whatever might be needed should it ever be necessary, but I haven't had to do much else for many years of ownership from my LC to my current MacPro.
You want to travel a different path? That's fine by me and I wouldn't revile you for doing so.
However, I WOULD revile you for heaping execrable invective upon someone else and his family for having the temerity to entertain a point of view not wholly in accordance with yours.
Trolls? - Too many of 'em...
Interesting to note that the later the comment, the more reasoned and rational the discourse, generally.
Initial knee-jerk reactions from the microsofties come first, invariably putting a subjective viewpoint as if it were objective.
"idiot analyst" is tautology.
An Apple repair centre
owned, staffed & run by Apple?
Or by one of the many people whose get-rich-quick approach was found across ALL platforms.
Not unlike the motor trade was - and often still is.
General fail all round (Logic, courage etc...)
Yes, I have used Macs for many years.
Yes I personally prefer the Mac's OS to other offerings.
Yes I have sufficient confidence to add my name to comments.
No I don't care what anyone else uses/has used/will use.
No I don't find the spittle-laden invective of your tribe either informative or entertaining.
No I don't see that being a Mega-Corporation is automatically intrinsically evil.
No I don't see anything wrong in preferring reasoned discourse to adolescent sophistry.
No I don't expect that the above described preference is likely to be satisfied.
...for nursey to bring on your medication, methinks.
More BallmerJugend stuff...
"It might have give a little push to consumer enthusiasm"
That's crap - & you know it. (If you don't, then you shouldn't be commenting on matters of which you're unaware, or which you don't understand).
"if it hadn't been around another machine would have served just as well..."
Your praise for the T40 suggests you would rave over a Ford Edsel, whilst dismissing a Jaguar E type or a Ferrarri 250 GTO as insignificant toys.
Pure sophistry (or absolute bollocks, in the vernacular).
If you have such a crystal-clear sharp perspective on the IT world, might we assume that you're CEO of a company worth vastly more than Apple, and you're one of the world's most influential IT industry movers?
"..Much as I dislike Apple..."
Pretty much sums up your comment.
I suppose your God of Innovation is the other company - the one with the simian CEO.
...have you omitted Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and Alistair Campbell from the list of Nuremberg attendees?
Let's be consistent.
I pictured Ballmer leaping around a stage in the presence of Diana Ross & co.
It quite put me off my cocoa & chocolate hobnob.
Don't be ridiculous...
..putting forward an idea steeped in common sense?
One that makes perfect economic sense?
One that isn't crippled by partisan ideology?
You'd never get ANY government to adopt it...
Why am I not surprised...
"...with some customer accounts having multiple incorrect debits applied..."
No mention of "...with some customer accounts having multiple incorrect CREDITS applied..."
Banks seem the same the whole world over - when they screw up it's never in our favour.
But that would mean...
It could equally well be associated with a Sony/Dell/HP/Any-Other-HW-Manufacturer logo.
Or do we ignore facts to indulge in Apple-baiting?
If "utterly pointless" are the first words past your lips at every Apple release, then I concur that your comments are utterly pointless.
Apple's progress & growth over the last 10-12 years can not be explained away in terms of "baubles" - good job they don't rely on the oh-so-erudite proclamations from NB in deciding their development, sales & marketing strategies, isn't it?
Having said that, I can see why Apple might be upset regarding the unauthorised use of the Apple logo, but as the doll itself is not in any way derogatory, I feel the outraged response of Apple to this is a little crazy.
Almost as crazy as those who would part with fifty-odd smackeroonies for the aforementioned.
Fifty-odd smackeroonies buys more RAM, or a 1TB HD, or a reasonable external drive for backup....
Yes, I love and use Macs:- but I'm a pragmatist
Old farts like me remember the music industry going ape over the cassette tape in the 1970's & 1980's.
Ubiquitous stickers proclaiming "Home taping is killing music"
It wasn't & it didn't.
Plus ça change...
A £4 million fine??
Why are courts all over the world treating copyright infringement as more serious than mass rape, mass murder, or violent revolution?
If violent revolution is attracting much lighter penalties - and also offering the possibility of success, perhaps it's an option worth considering...
There's an old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted".
How did a fool become rich in the first place?
I must be nobody's fool, 'cos I'm generally skint(ish).
None:- I'm just a plain Mr
If Nelson were alive today, he'd be spinning in his grave...
My biggest concern
is that so many porn sites (or even would be porn sites) are portals for the ungodly malware producers.
Whilst you & I would (probably) be suspicious of the "New super-duper codec" that needs installing, 13yr-old Billy would be thinking with his 'nads not hs grey matter, so would be very likely to hit the download button. Sure, you could threaten him with amputation if he dares to add anything on, and he SHOULD be using a non-admin account.
But with Joe Public, "Should" is very rarely "is".
...I appoint myself "King of the pedants"?
Surely then, I could reign in my pedantry?
I'll drink to that...
Sensible unemotional reality. Such pragmatism is rare in forums. I couldn't have put it so succinctly.
They're going to become R-E-A-L-L-Y rich through selling a product for £0.00 or €0.00, or $0.00 (delete according to preferred currency).
Yeah, my Macs have been free from the fruits-of-the-ungodly for 11 or 12 years - last "nasty" was the Autostart 9805 worm back in the late nineties, in pre-OSX days.
I STILL run AV though - if only to catch "Windows" nasties, so I don't pass anything on to my poor benighted acquaintances.
They've enough grief without my adding to it, poor blighters!
Three thumbs down, eh?
I see some of the "Steve Jobs is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse" brigade have been taking their medication, and their nursey's let them near a 'puter...
FUD, supposition & rumour
stated as fact.
"Not that Apple is a member of the new Task Force which will be defining the standard for software SIMs, but the hand of Steve Jobs is clearly visible..."
In the author's (overworked) imagination perhaps.
Or is paranoia about a machiavellian über-puppet-meister the new standard?
You owe me a keyboard...
Curiouser & curiouser...
My nephew loves his iPhone. He's a Windows network administrator.
I'm still perfectly happy with my Samsung Pixon M8800. I'm a graphic designer and a Mac techie - even a fanboy.
Neither of us are sad or unfocused, mentally or otherwise.
This is nothing more than a "quiet day page-filler".
"the risk of death or injury from such an attack is far lower than accidental death or even murder by a family member."
You obviously know some of MY family...
"....I do want my taxes spent wisely....."
Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy, too?
The holier than thou attitude to which you allude is generally merely a reaction to the execrable diatribes of invective aimed at them (which we can imagine is spittle-flecked) from a certain section of Windows lovers.
And for what?
It's usually a case of resentment that we can easily achieve things where they're having to jump through hoops and demonstrate their über-geeky superiority by battling the machine & its OS before they can successfully carry out similar actions.
To hell with that - I just prefer to get on and do what I want to do...
"8 times faster for the same price? You're talking out of your arse."
My sentiments exactly. But almost without exception, the "Look at me! I'm too cool to like Apple" brigade are long on wishful thinking sophistry and short on reason.
If Jobs & Ives found a cure for Aids, Ebola virus, brought peace to the Middle East and ended African famine, you can bet your last penny these people would still be spewing out spittle-laden invective...
...drives me mad on Windows by filling the whole goddamn screen, when all I want is to fit to the doc contained therein:- I STILL have to manually resize so I can see other docs, or have two in view to copy & paste between...
It's just a case of which is most familiar to you and hence seems the norm.
Dumb, it ain't!
"Ballmer seems to agree with him."
and this is a recommendation?
of what the previous posters said!
They could merge senior officers (halve the number of taxpayer-provided Mercs immediately), merge "performance monitoring" staff, merge "diversity" trainers then they just might realise how many unwarranted & unnecessary non-plod personnel they have.
Save money by cutting waste & profligacy:- not by cutting staff who actually do something.
You are Charlie Brown and I claim my prize.
So THAT'S where...
being a 'Merkin, he's known as "Chuck Schmuck"?
"We used to have an education system that was the envy of the world. Where did it all go wrong?"
Politicians, politicians and politicians.
Most British are uninterested in politics (and who can blame them) so the ones we have are basically the lowest common denominator elected by those who don't understand and don't care.
So we're well on our way to hell in a handcart.
Unless sufficient remember that rebellion is the right of every citizen - and sometimes a moral duty.
backup contingency plans can only be properly tested if they're stress-tested. i.e. in the event of the contingency occurring for which they're designed.
If they're found wanting, then think again.
See multitudinous outages experienced by virtually every bank, every ATM network, every POS system etc. in recent times.
We live in a world reliant on complex real-time systems.
We also live in a world where shit happens.
It is no sin to make a mistake: it IS a sin to repeat the same mistake...
Paris? - just 'cause I mentioned sinning...
...you're using Photoshop on a non-Apple platform, and are happy with it, then why TF should you be concerned about its availability on the Mac.
Yup, I use CS5 on my Mac Pro.
Nope, I couldn't care less that it's also available on other platforms.
Your attitude is so much like the Honecker approach - stop VWs coming in so they'll have to have Trabants.
And you call someone else "Big Brother"? - oh, the irony!
iLife goes from strength to strength - Joe Consumer likes iMovie...
Don't see the Final Cut Pro team wearing sackcloth & ashes & proclaiming the end is nigh...
Don't propogate hysterical sophistry.
I've never (in over 30 years' IT work) seen an EULA which certifies anything as "Bug-free" - effectively or otherwise.
For anyone to do that the app would have to be exhaustively tested on every conceivable permutation of hardware, with every conceivable permutation of configuration & set-up, with every conceivable permutation of concurrent software and in every conceivable permutation of circumstances.
In every conceivable permutation of the foregoing.
75-year software gestation periods, anyone?
Well said Dave93
A concise and accurate appraisal. The world appears to be full of Chicken Lickens screaming that the sky is falling, and they appear to equate opening an App store with a total monopoly/control over what you can buy for your Mac.
Can you only buy a Mac from an Apple Store?...........er, no.
Can you only add iTunes purchases to an iPod..........er, no.
Can we expect this irrational hatred of
Apple & Steve Jobs to abate, and be
replaced with reasoned discourse?............................er, probably not.
There is no disadvantage:-
Same old same old...
Just another chapter in the "Let's equate anything Apple does with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the coming of the Antichrist and the end of civilisation as we know it" saga.
Same stuff was spewed out at the opening of the first Apple Store:- the imminent demise of the Mac distribution channel, the immininent collapse of Mac sales, the immediate end of non-Apple Mac software, - ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
It's all getting rather predictable and rather tedious...
What, me panic?
If Steam usage plummets, that would be a commercial choice of Mac users - and nothing to do with Apple. Preventing Apple opening an App store to protect Steam's revenue stream can also be rightly construed as monopolistic.
Apple's Apple Stores aren't viewed as monopolistic because you can buy your Mac from wherever you like.
Ditto Mac software.
Only if you're restricted to the App store alone, could it be viewed as anything like monopolistec.
Most people in the world AREN'T in the US...
Of course it will...
...by all those highly-paid analysts (guessers, to you & me) who will use it to predict the total collapse of Apple, Western Democracy and the arrival of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
This will of course, be accompanied by cackles of glee from those whose sole raison d'etre appears to be to heap invective upon Apple & Mac users - that is, when they're not cleaning the flecks of spittle from their screens, or mopping up the dribble from their keyboards...
the fact that Apple's systems are at a very similar price to similarly-specced Windows boxes.
Are Dell made in idyllic circumstances, by happy smiling assemblers employed in a state of benevolent altruism?
Nothing more rabid than the spittle-flecked invective of the anti-apple brigade, despite their arguments being virtually 100% sophistry.
Still, never let facts or veracity get in the way of a good self-important rant.
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