Incredible

All this under a supposed Labour government?

If Kier Hardie were alive today, he'd be spinning in his grave...

@Ex-IT inter alia

@Ex-IT

Spot on, old Son.

@Tom Welsh

Exactly why we have out-of-control feral brats here

@Mad Dave

Your comment is also exactly why we have out-of-control feral brats here.

Yes, I do have a son who became a proper little Kevin at twelve. I was on it like a ton of bricks - harsh, even - and it only lasted a month or two. Now I have a 24yr old son who I can genuinely say is one of my best buddies, as well as my offspring.

@mrlumpy

Since we 'develeoped' professional politicos who've rarely had a proper job and usually have no real experience in the real world, we have had a succession of useless, otherwise-unemployable nonentities standing for public office.

Joe public sees this, becomes disillusioned with politics, doesn't think it's worth voting, so candidates for office become more & more useless and gain office with the support of a coterie of activists.

Joe public becomes even more disillusioned, and we have the downward spiral which leads to NuLab & their ilk...

No room to keep records...

All available record space is tied up with DNA, emails sent, phone calls made and other personal data...

As an Apple user..

I pass on my sincere best wishes to PA in this; never forget the power of positive attitude.

Some call it faith, others call it character or willpower. Whatever the name, it helps, and I hope for the best.

Rules

are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of idiots.

@AC 14/11 00:44 GMT

.."Still, the world would be a better place without Apple."

Not quite correct old chap.

the world would be a better place without A. C. who posted Saturday 14th November 2009 00:44 GMT

@AC 11 Nov. 15:18

"They cocked up the driving license..."

No they didn't!

They cocked up the driving LICENCE.

@Sean Timarco Baggaley

She might have received copious quantities of money; that I grant you, but "earned"? Not in a million years, old Son!

@Dale3

Don't count on it changing anything to do with banking - unless they can cut costs, charge you huge sums or otherwise fleece you to fund huge bonuses. Trebles all round!

Beer? - well I suppose I'm basically one of the lumpen proletariat at heart.

But it would be nice to be one of the lumpen proletariat with an automatic weapon, a couple of million followers and the support of the armed forces.

We WOULD see a few changes then....

Continued...

...on Page 69?

Mine's the one with a copy of Private Eye in the pocket...

Plus ça change?

C'etait toujours comme ça pour les singes mangeurs de fromage de remise...

Michelle Knight

"Wreckless driving"???

And that's a problem?

(He asked recklessly)

Mine's the sheepskin car coat with the perforated driving gloves in the pocket (nostalgia!)

Confusion reigns...

But if a zombie paedo restricts himself/herself/itself to zombie kiddies, then:-

a) is a crime committed?

b) is that alright then?

But anyway, zombie paedos should be taken out & hung by the neck until alive (or whatever).

Not really disgusted - just think the gravestone's apposite!

Watch this space.....

Just imagine - 6 months on, all the locals say "Stuff the council", and the council then claim the "site is under-utilised" and flog it off to Tesco, NCP or a housebuilder.

All of this overseen by "Consultants" with whom councillors have links, and/or the site is sold to a developer with whom councillors have links.

Seen it all before.

Look for T Dan Smith, inter alia, or consult a multitude of back issues of Private Eye.

@whiteafrican

With the greatest respect, old lad - utter bollocks.

"Serious" businesses usually run a hodge-podge of entry level Dell/HP tiny boxes, often still running Windows2000 with a few "advanced" users on XP.

It's more a case of few IT departments recommend Macs because they need so much less support, so the IT Head's little empire will shrink.

Turkeys don't vote for Christmas - but it appears they spew anti-Apple invective...

@William Claude Dukenfield

The "spectacle" of the hunt always brings Oscar Wilde's words to mind:- "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable".

A plague on their houses!

Obviously

It'll soon be bog-standard to text from the lavvy...

Mine's the one with the Andrex in the pocket, please.

Frankly, my dear....

I'd be far more worried if I were to see influential/intelligent*/authority figures appearing in a membership list of The Labour Party.

*actually, that would totally prove a lack of intelligence, so scrub that description.

@Desk Jockey

The Nuremburg Defence; "I was only obeying orders."

Didn't hold water then, and doesn't hold water now.

More FUD...

Make it awkward for the populace, tell 'em how vigilant you're being to protect them from the nasty terrorists and unfortunately a surprisingly high number fall for this crap, so your privileged elite position is perpetuated.

David Icke was partially correct - they're all lizards.

STBO

"The more we find out about my arrest the more disgraceful it looks." Damien Green

A combined op between NuLab & their tame plod enforcers? - aimed at silencing embarrassing (but not officially secret) opposition dissent.

How can it be anything but disgraceful?

Question

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel common-sence & rationality go out of the window once m'learned friends & Your Honour get involved?

Mine's the one with the summons for contempt of court in the pocket

@RichyS

"What the fuck has happened to this country?"

Sufficient numbers of total morons (around 26%) voting in a heavily gerrymandered election (THREE TIMES ON THE TROT!) for Smiling Tony & Grouchy Gordon, that's what.

@ loads of you

Yup, I'm a Mac user. Yup, I know I ain't gonna get owned. -

Why? 'Cos I don't use Warez, or install dubious codecs etc. - in fact, I don't install ANYTHING unless the source is 100% tried, tested & trusted etc.

I do run the excellent donationware ClamXav, which is solely to catch nasties like Office Macroviruses etc., which I could inadvertently forward to a Windows-using friend.

Yes, I thinks Macs are inherently more secure than Windows PCs but I am also aware that the move within the evil-doing community is regardless of platform, to exploit the weakest link. The user.

More & more nasties are now socially engineered rather than invisibly installing, so they are exploiting people primarily, rather than just a particular perceived system weakness.

So, enough with the half-witted stereotype comments; it's bollocks and I suspect most of you know it.

Plus ça change...

"Our investigation found that North Wales Police procedures for dealing with counter-allegations of criminal behaviour were very poor" Tom Davies, IPCC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8268845.stm

From the above report -

"Following the North Wales Police criminal investigation the complainant was charged with affray and possession of an offensive weapon. But the charges were dropped when they came to trial at Mold Crown Court in July 2006."

There's a surprise. The spirit of Brunstrom is alive & well.

@lots of you

Many of you complaining about anti-UK or anti-RAF bias are overlooking the salient point in this:-

Almost ANY decision made by MOD procurement in the last God-knows-how-many-years has resulted in military hardware which is always years overdue, invariably four or five times original cost estimates, and generally ineffective at doing the job for which it's intended.

No-one is anti-UK or anti-RAF or anti-any other branch of the services, BUT.....

Should one ot two MOD procurement retards be charged with sabotage, taken out & shot (but not with guns or ammo they had procured). pour encourager les autres, then maybe our Armed Forces might suddenly begin to receive effective equipment in a timely manner and at fair cost. - Oh, and whilst you're at it, include a charge of treason against a certain sanctimonious, parsimonious, one-eyed mental patient who has aways shown contempt for the military, unless he can bask in their reflected glory. He ain't worth a used latrine...

No doubt his Chekists will arrive soon...

@Seán

"...the english army police and secret police work together to collude with loyalist murderers and facilitate their racist criminal activities..."

My word Sir; you do talk the most amazing load of bollocks.

However, I would always defend your right so to do.

Little Hitler is alive & well...

"...This investigation will look at whether the use of these powers in this case was lawful, reasonable and correctly carried out."

Lawful? - possibly so, under NuLab's plethora of ill-thought out oppressive anti-personal freedom laws, although their precious Human Rights Act might be used to oppose this.

Reasonable? - never in a million years. This would only seem reasonable to a totally paranoid, power-crazed "official" - almost certainly as compensation for being under-endowed in the "appendage" department.

Correctly carried out? - something unreasonable cannot be correctly carried out since being unreasonable SHOULD preclude it from occurring.

How the hell did my country ever get into such a state?

Along similar lines, Johnson states that the recent pop-bottle bomber convictions "..prove that our presence in Afghanistan is necessary..."

Run that past me again - a plot carried out by people from East London (& probably Bradford), said plot being hatched/masterminded in Pakistan, said perpetrators being trained/briefed in Pakistan. So to prevent this, our troops are being killed in Afghanistan.

Either NuLab are lousy at geography, can't read maps, or are totally useless at everything. Even their sophistry is singularly unconvincing. A plague on their houses!

No doubt...

...there'll be a new jailbird in Dover...

Mine's the one with the treasure map & pieces of eight in the pocket.

@AC 10:24 8 Sept

De Nada... Es ist nichts.... C'est rien.... You're welcome...

However, being well aware of M'Learned friends and their predilections, I hasten to add that the suggestion of the image apparently conjured up by you was not of my intention - either explicit or implicit, and I accept no responsibility for any injuries suffered - howsoever caused - during the visualisation of such image.

Furthermore, I wish to indicate that any references to Broon 'n' Bliar do not represent any specific person, living, dead or ensconced in Westminster.

Visualise at your own risk.

Ted

One can only speak...

as one finds.

I (& SWMBO) have been with Orange for ten years, and there have been one or two problems occur - nothing life-threatening, though.

I can only say I've found Orange CustServices AND staff in the Orange Shops to be helpful, courteous, efficient & effective.

No, I don't work for Orange, nor am I associated with them in any way. I can omly report my experience, & I wouldn't think of leaving Orange as they've given me no reason to go, and several reasons to stay.

Par for the course...

The whole NuLab concept has been based on smearing any opposition - hell, Broon & Bliar were actively smearing & counter-smearing each other for years.

It is, and always has been, an inherently sick & twisted political philosophy & practice.

Hope they pay squillions - couldn't happen to more deserving people - except for the rest of the bastards at Transport House or wherever they've decamped to these days.

Grenade? I'm beginning to think we need a revolution far more than an election...

WTF

Yet again, unelected & unaccountable EU busybodies are sticking their little poky bits into matters which they don't understand and are probably inherently incapable of understanding.

WTF is it to do with some jumped-up self-important little Gauleiter if US company A wishes to join with US company B?

Suppose when Cyclops was pushing Lloyds into taking over HBOS, the whole thing was forbidden by Vanuatu or Tonga?

I'm STILL stunned by the monstrous arrogance of these apparatchiks.

Sod an election - we NEED a revolution.

The joys of the EEC

Perhaps our Irish friends might (hopefully) reconfirm their original decisions regarding the European Constitution - sorry, "tidying-up treaty".

@AC Thurs 20 Aug @10:20

Yes, Plod DOES have a job to do.

But it's been one hell of a long time since they've done it.

@Lots of you

I don't really care about the difficulty/cost/likelihood of doing this; what I DO care about is that it CAN be done, and it is within the capacity of the state to do it.

Or does anyone STILL think our current rulers are wise, honest & benevolent?

If you do, or you still believe "I'm a straight kinda guy" then you deserve all you get.

How cute...

that they officially intend to do what they're accusing McKinnon of having done, yet describe themselves as an"Elite Unit".

Are ALL US politicos/Pentagon types lobotomised?

I'm baffled...

'Steele earlier this week pleaded not guilty in San Mateo County Superior Court to charges "that he rang doorbells while naked"'...

What kind of legislative weirdo would actually make it an offense "to ring doorbells while naked"?

I'd like to think it was just Merkins, but then I look at our own collection of Millibands, Balls, Harridan Harperson, the Prince of Darkness, etc., and I'm now wondering if there IS a legislator (anywhere) who isn't a 28 carat, one hundred percent weirdo..

@AC 14th August 2009 09:04

"I don't see the problem with giving the police your name though, if they ask then tell them." - AC 14th August 2009 09:04.

The problem is, it's a slow but inexorable erosion of our liberties, and a slow, equally inexorable extension to the powers of Plod - granted to themselves by themselves, without the authority of the legislature.

Theoretically at least, Plod polices us WITH OUR CONSENT, and has power(s) granted by the Legislature i.e. our elected representatives TO WHOM PLOD IS (or should be) ACCOUNTABLE.

Setting themselves above this is the ideal blueprint towards a totalitarian police state - and although the point in question may initially seem intrinsically innocuous, remember the old Chinese saw "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." - Lao-tzu, Chinese philosopher (604 BC - 531 BC)

Gov't reaction?

Fingers in ears and sing "La La La - I can't hear you".

Anyway, even the HO should know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Twonks.

@Adam Salisbury

Everything unpleasant & onerous only applies to us serfs, peasants & hoi-polloi.

Unsurprising that yet again, there's a total foul-up with a Blair involved...

@Simon Banyard

Excellent comment, Sir.

Succinct and entirely appropriate.

Good man.

@Keith Williams

Lucky bugger...

Well said, Sir!

"In other words, Ministers do not work: they merely visit."

Couldn't have put it better or more succinctly myself.

Full marks.

So far...

the British people have not been the stuff of which revolutions are made.

Yet.

We're getting there.

Will this save me money?

Despite 20 yrs using Macs, Photoshop etc., I still use my Nikon 35mm systems - still preferring Fujichrome (+ my Nikon film scanner) to digital.

Does this now mean that if Plod demands to see my photographs, I can expect Plod to pay for the processing of my Fujichrome, and to pay restitution + compensation if they "lose" my transparencies?

@elderlybloke

No, we didn't need them 'cos the civvy population wasn't running around like a headless chickens convention, too scared to even fart.

Our security forces managed as well as could be expected, but we were blessed with the enormous funding sent to the terrorists by our colonial cousins - the misty-eyed Sons of Erin whose families hadn't set foot in Ireland for 5 or 6 generations...

Their judiciary also refused point-blank to send any escaped convicted felons back, claiming they were "just poor disadvantaged freedom fighters".

Funny how their point of view changed somewhat after a) Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City, and b) the events of 9/11.

The Brits have, down the years, been just too bloody-minded and obstreperous for a terrorist campaign to really succeed, and it's that very fact which alarms our current apology for a government, and encourages them to institute a permanent state of alert (and, they hope, fear) in order to render us more malleable and controllable.

We should ensure they never succeed.

from ANOTHER elderly (well, 59-ish) bloke

@Rod Maclean

Not so, old son.

Serving police officers are just one example where BNP membership is prohibited.

It is the the thin end of the wedge where to be a plod, local government officer or whatever, you have to have the "right" political views.

This is extremely dangerous, and a frightening tool in the hands of the control-freak apology for a government under which we currently suffer.

Should we permit this to flourish? If so, how long until total support for NuLab becomes a pre-requisite for ANY public sector post? (Except for the armed forces, of course, as we know the contempt NuLab have for them).