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Wall Street woes: Oh noes, tech titans aren't using bankers

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Re: Wall Street Woes : Oh noooooes, there are new kids in our sandbox. @Alistair

> While I get the concept about raising funds to enable growth in the economy, I'm a firm believer in *real* value rather than market value.

You say this and in some unclear sense I agree with you. Mr. Worstall said this in a previous article of his <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/25/youre_all_inventing_the_wrong_sort_of_technology/>

> The first point to make is that no one can decide what represents value for other people. Other people get to decide what is value for them. I might well have decided, for example, that Facebitch is of no value whatsoever and I might even be right about that. The fact that 1 billion people disagree with me, however, means that it does have value for them.

This feels wrong but I can't justify why. Yours feels right but I can't justify why. In neither case can I put my finger on the core flaw or killer justification of either. So for the sake of my edification try to explain your claim, please? It might make the merits of Tim's clearer too.

Ta everso

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Look, no client! Not quite: the long road to a webbified Vim

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@Author - Again with the fancy web dev stuff

Very exciting, deeply cool, so much you can do with the new toys.

Now, how do you do the really boring stuff like protect the user from browser-delivered malware? Sorry to be so dull but this stuff matters.

(oh, and BTW gmail works fine without jscript. And any reason to call web front-end for email a 'complex web app'?)

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Take the shame: Microsofties ADMIT to playing Internet Explorer name-change game

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Re: I'd call it "Spinal Tap"

> And you point is?

I thought you were playing along but I'm not so sure now. Work it out.

(and /pace/ @thomas k.)

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Re: I'd call it "Spinal Tap"

Aren't spinal taps very, very painful and unpleasant?

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You'll find Yoda at the back of every IT conference

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Re: Ten Summoner’s Tales @Spleen

> If it's ten tales by one summoner then it should be "A Summoner's Ten Tales" or "Ten Tales of a Summoner".

Since when should it?

I wouldn't normally, but this a dabbsy article so when in Rome: ur talking Boll-OCKS

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Visual Studio Online goes titsup as Microsoft wrestles with database

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Re: And as the march to subscription (online) services goes on...

With respect, I'm a bit puzzled.

> 100K mobiles. it costs me about £40 a month

It doesn't sound like you're exactly stressing out any system if you're getting it that cheaply. How do you know what it would cost on a small dedicated server?

> If it takes off I can use Azure to scale up for very little cost.

And if it breaks, what then? (it's possible that with your app a day's delay isn't a problem)

> It helps that the cost of cloud computing only seems to go down as Amazon, Google and MS continue their price war.

It's called a race to the bottom. From copious experience, buy cheap pay twice (shrug).

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What does a flashmob of 1,024 robots look like? Just like this

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All very good but...

... did anyone else look at the bots and immediately think they resemble Minions off Despicable Me?

Edit: just a bit of yellow and they'd be perfect.

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Rosetta's comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko is one FUGLY space rock

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Re: Please enable Javascript to use this feature

> The tech team is currently working on a solution.

The 'solution' is not to use javascript.

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Hollywood star Robin Williams dies of 'suspected suicide' at 63

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Re: Mork Calling Orson @P. Lee

> And the depression, is normal too?

Of course it is! It's normal and necessary as mild depression gives feedback on the individual's state, just as pain does. But it is also normal for it to get out of control. Our immune systems can get out of control too and can cause havoc. All of this is normal, but like TB or malaria is normal, that doesn't make TB or malaria or an overactive immune system is *desirable*, so we try to treat it.

For some people, depression can't be treated, or controlled. For whatever reason.

> Anytime someone argues that the degrading and destruction of human life is a normal (implying "ok") thing, I get more than annoyed.

You've not been there so you can give simplified and frankly cruel rulings from your high throne of ignorance. It's more complex than that:

* You can't comprehend how bad things can get. You just don't know. You're doubtless more sympathetic to physical pain because it's something you've experienced directly. Well, I can tell you, having over a decade of bad physical pain and disability, and the expectation that I'd have to live with that for rest of my life (turns out I won't, luckily), I'd rather have that than clinical depression.

* You're talking about using emotional blackmail to force someone to stay alive. If they're so bad that they genuinely wish to cease their existence, do you not see how evil that can be?

* How do you think a spouse would feel about living with someone in that condition? Badly physically disabled people have requested death and their spouses will in some cases support them because they can see the suffering (would you?). A spouse might be just as understanding in mental illness cases (young children are another matter). Why do you thiink mental suffering is so much better just because it doesn't involve tubes and a wheelchair?

* Here's one I'm sure you've never realised: the option of suicide was for me a huge comfort. Knowing I could pull the plug at any time kept me going. I really didn't have anything else worth going on for at those points. If someonehad tried to take that away... I don't know what I would have done or how I would have coped. I would certainly have been made even worse. Complex, isn't it?

> The turning of a human being into something non-human is to be fought against.

Up to a point. Try and be a little more understanding, please.

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Re: When will we take mental health seriously?

I think mental illness is taken very seriously by health pros these days. The general public is a lot better than most people think.

> I've spoken quite a bit to a couple of relatives who are professors of mental health at a university. They both say that bipolar disorders and depressions are impossible to treat without drugs.

I don't believe this is true of depression. I know about depression, it's something that has devastated (and I use that word deliberately) a very large part of my life.

Depression has multiple causes and may need multiple treatments, drugs certainly being one of them. Without prozac I'd most likely be dead, and honestly, death is preferable to that feeling of having your guts twisted into a hard black knot that hurts so much. Such a revelation when I realised that other people didn't have that black knot in them, their strangely different (in other words, happy) behaviour suddenly made sense. And what a hideous revelation it was, to discover so much of your life could have been, literally, unimaginably better.

With some people talking therapy works. A lot of depression is an habitual thought, a habit of seeing the world as an hostile place, and oh my, isn't the world willing to oblige that viewpoint, and the poisonous snake eats a little more of its own poisonous tail and sickens some more. Talking can help there - for some people.

In other case, a bad or abusive childhood can kick things off nicely. Not much can undo that, sadly.

I've previously posted about this as AC, not because I give a shite who knows, everyone who knows me quickly susses there's something weird here, but because I don't want my other posts interpreted in the light of my mental illness (cos that's what it is).

Anyway, for me the bad stuff is over now. If anyone else recognises that kind of extreme psychological pain in themselves, get thee to the doc, it responds quite well to the right treatment[*]. It can be difficult to recognise if that's all you've ever known, and it can be easy to discount your own suffering because you're so familar with it that you convince yourself others must have it so much worse, but often they are no worse than you. If you regularly find the idea of a quiet death attractive, yes, it's an option but leave it 'till last; please see the docs first, they're pretty good.

Sorry for the ramble but been there, done that & got that black, black t-shirt.

I hope you've found your peace, Robin, I really do. Very nearly got that t-shirt as well.

[*] if you're prescribed antidepressants, they're likely to make things worse for a few weeks before making them better. Don't stop taking them at this point!

Me. Because I can't find the napoleon icon --------------------------------------->

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NVIDIA claims first 64-bit ARMv8 SoC for Androids

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Re: Bring on the Mandelbrots

These are float intensive tasks, there's nothing in the article that suggests they'll be affected. Plus they're embarrassingly parallel, if that makes any difference.

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Intel forced to shoot down viral 'Israeli boycott' whopper

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Re: Anon Cluetard

> Jewish temple that the Muslims - in their usual attempts to eradicate all trace of prior religions - built the Al Aqsa mosque on top of (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque).

Have you any idea of what the (catholic) conquistadores did when they got to the new world? Any idea? No, you don't.

> They tried the same trick in Constantinople, 'recreating' the Greek Orthodox Hagia Sofia basilica into a mosque (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia). You'll find plenty of ill-educated Muslims who insist on pretending the Hagia Sofia was always a mosque, I assume you are probably one of them.

It's very well known and acknowledged amongst moslems that Hagia Sophia was indeed a church before it became a mosque. All the guidebooks I saw when I was there said so. I know of no moslem that would claim otherwise, or would care what it was previously.

One religion taking over another religion's place of worship is not unusual.

Your anti-islamic bigotry is tiresome. All religions have their good parts and their gross excesses.

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Why do Reg readers deserve the big bucks? Here's why...

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Re: Mordac

> 'nuff said.

Well, not really. Is Mordac an acronym for some legislation on security, a Dr. Who monster, or something else?

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Edward Snowden's not a one-off: US.gov hunts new secret doc leaker

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Re: Somebody got a universal translator handy?

> This is also why I am betting on a financial crisis in the next 3-4 months, I might be wrong on the exact timing

I'm pretty sure you are, too much confidence around now. Misplaced confidence but it makes no difference. My guess is it's further off, perhaps a year or two.

> but it will make 2007/08 look like a walk in the park.

yep :(

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Quicker, easier to fly to MOON than change web standards ... OR IS IT?

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"Never in the short history of the web have web developers had such power given to them"

Oh yes. Quite.

Yep, web developers. More about web developers. Web developers? We've got web developers covered! Hey look, a web developer.

The entire article is about web developers, but the web is for users. Users are the bottom line, but that's skimmed over in the author's sugar rush of new toys. I do not trust web devs to do the right thing with new tech - far from it, given the over-complex crap they churn out now with no understanding of usability or security, which is then signed off my managers with even less clue.

A pox on (most of) them.

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The Register is HIRING technology hacks for the WORLD

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the ability to file copy

I can copy a file. Do I win?

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Ethicists say Facebook's experiments not SO creepy

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@Mark 85

> So, the "ethics boffins" didn't weigh in on the ethics of how this "experiment" was conducted but how people felt it?

AFAICS 'how a person[*] feels about X' is the core of ethics. Thought experiment: if someone consciously doesn't mind X being done to them, can it be unethical? I'd say no.

Also they aren't 'ethics boffins', their website says (summary extracts) We use the tools of scientific inquiry to the understand the conditions under which research participants, and the public in general, consider research practices such as deception to be justifiable ... We conduct surveys to gauge the public's ethical response to controversial, or potentially controversial, experimental designs. They are essentially survey-takers. Try following the link before putting the boot in.

(none of the above is to defend facebook in any way)

[*] or other sufficiently complex entities

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Another day, another Firefox: Version 31 is upon us ALREADY

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"the latest version of Firefox has some great tools for web developers"

I'm not a web dev. I just don't like being dicked around. UI stupidity is the problem, clever dev tools won't undo that.

Edit: Firefox ESR has been good. Palemoon is looking attractive now ESR is up for its annual renewal.

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Bring back error correction, say Danish 'net boffins

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Re: FEC

I am *really* not a network guy, so this is going to be a most n00bulous question, but I have long wondered if moving stuff into the application as a library, so using UDP + app level error correction + retransmit at the app level for dropped packets, might work better than TCP in some cases.

Given wired connections are pretty reliable these days (I think) would that work? I guess the answer's no or it would be widespread already but any thoughts welcome.

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MPs to sue UK.gov over 'ridiculous' EMERGENCY data snooping law

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Re: BleatingGreen Boring Bernie Erroneous Cowherd Contempt @Plump & Bleaty

> Only five minutes [...] an abject failure!

MBZCC

> please do show me the 'harm' from the NSA's activities you claimed you had proof of.

But plumpkins, did you not click on the nice link? The very one that points out that I didn't say such a thing and asks you to show that I did. And you couldn't and still haven't but now you're making the same accusations again because it's the default plumpness failure mode?

Someone famous (in his own cubicle anyway) once said "Wow, you are just so good at this debating thing - not!". Stupid or dishonest, which?

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Re: Boring Bernie Erroneous Cowherd Contempt @Plump & Bleaty

> Wow, you are just so good at this debating thing - not!

Ewe can talk, plumpkins. Remember this, lambchop?

Easy to 'debate' if you do it your way. And you know by now that if you want to troll, I can troll you better. Want to kick off again my little plumpgasm?

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Re: Erroneous Cowherd Erroneous Cowherd Contempt @Matt Bryant

> If you lived in a sewage farm you would think swimming in shit was the norm

If a certain turd floats by again and again, one might become painfully familiar with it. Anyway, on to the mian point.

> so it is simply foolish to think the sheeple that have started flocking here constitute a true reflection of public opinion.

Let me get this straight. 'The vast majority of the British electorate do not even know The Register exists' but we regists are, in your words, the sheeple. That means the great mass of the electorate *aren't* sheeple?

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Mozilla fixes CRITICAL security holes in Firefox, urges v31 upgrade

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if you've got problems with the interface, don't whinge here

tell mozilla. I did. Go and complain there. I'll dig out some links if you like.

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Turing biopic with Cumberbatch, Knightley to premiere at London Film Festival

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Re: Real portrayl?

"Do the Poles get credit?" / http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28167071

Well, well. It looks yet again that great chunks of history have been left out of my education yet again. I'm getting a bit annoyed by these not-accidental lacunae. Thanks for that link.

And whoever Cicely M. Popplewell is, she doesn't even have a wiki page. Curiously, amazon's got one of her books though <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Information-Processing-1962-Cicely-Popplewell/dp/B000LZH40S>

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Microsoft's MCSE and MCSD will become HARDER to win

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Re: "In test for SQL certifications we ask you to actually create an SQL query"

@Trevor_Pott, @Hans 1

Thanks both, I found the cacls previously (ok, 'sod all' wasn't entirely accurate) but I never found any useful examples, and most especially of using cacls beyond files which is what I was really after. Nothing about how to control one process' access to a non-file resource such as another process, on user accounts, devices such as the DVD, IOW general non-file objects.

Just couldn't find the info so I gave up and maybe just as well as I'm not an admin nor wish to become one, just like to know how to tighten up security in a fine-grained way.

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"In test for SQL certifications we ask you to actually create an SQL query"

Fuck me. That just sums it all up [*].

From what I've seen the stuff you have to learn for their certs is mostly shite anyway. Some is useful as a starting point, the rest is irrelevant theory or click-memorising. You're kept away from the CLI mainly[**], except I guess that with their new shiny powershell they're forcing it on everyone as hard as they can because it's proprietary.

And that last bit is the clue - that with MS everything is just another way of sinking the MS hook deeper into your cheek. Screw what you need, it's what MS wants.

[*] that's my 15 years of MSSQL experience laughing its tits off

[**] btw anyone know any comprehensive source of info on windows security ACL control via the CLI? Because I spent a while looking and could find sod all.

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NEW, SINISTER web tracking tech fingerprints your computer by making it draw

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for the umpteenth time, disable scripting

then enable it selectively if at all. Ditto cookies & flash. How often do people have to be done over before they wake up? Do they ever?

(curiously, I'd put the addthis domain in my squid blocklist quite a while back with the comment "# not quite sure what this is but don't want it.")

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Seventh-gen SPARC silicon will accelerate Oracle databases

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Re: Are these the SPARC or the T processors @Mad Mike

> This leads to issues with cache flushing etc. when switching between threads and more memory access and therefore lower throughput

I thought that the later sparc chips had hardware threading with round-robin thread scheduling exactly for hiding read latency - many slow threads somewhat 'immune' to ram read delays. (am not a chip guy though)

Separately,

> Chipzilla has, for example, made sure recent Xeons are tuned to the needs of workloads like Hadoop

Have they? And how would one tune a chip for such loads? To my knowledge there's nothing specific to hadoop that that the chip architects could focus on. It's heavy on IO, its heavy on java, it's heavy on sorting... but that's nothing unique to hadoop. I'm really puzzled.

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Programming languages in economics: Cool research, bro, but what about, er, economics?

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Re: pings @Bruce Hoult

(actually reads paper, withdraws muppet post. sorry all)

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Listen: WORST EVER customer service call – Comcast is 'very embarrassed'

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Re: This is NOT an aberration...it is how these people do business

This, this, and thrice this.

The rep on the end of the phone is in a pressure sandwich between the client (that's you) below and the corporation above. The corp pays the rep so the corp might as well have rep's kids in a cage in the basement. Your proximal target of anger is the anonymous voice on the phone, the real cause is an evil business policy, get it straight.!

A certain UK high street health-food chain uses similar tactics - buy anything and it's "would you care to buy our magazine / do you want a loyalty card / can I sign you up for one of our special offers / it's 50% off the second item sir, buy something else?" plus immediately being pounced on when entering. Turned out it wasn't the staff being genetically bred to annoy, but company policy. The shop staff told me it pisses off a lot of customers but they don't have a choice.

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NSA dragnet mostly slurped innocents' traffic

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Re: BoringGreen Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

@AC: But if you want a saner life, why don't you just ignore Matt

If it were just me that would be fine; I'd walk away, but if you look back over the the threads he got involved in you'll see it's actually quite a lot of people he's pissing on. I guess it's their call too but I think he drags in a lot of well-meaning newbies who dont' realise what they're dealing with until they're deep in it.

@Roo: Sometimes an opposing view is actually useful and even valid

A good skeptic is of real value. Matt doesn't present arguments with the integrity needed for that. Not even near.

I guess you're both right, roll it up and move on. So I shall. Thanks all.

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Re: BoringGreen Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

Dear Matt, I'm getting really, really tired of being hosed down by your bullshit, being misrepresented (e.g. "your paranoid claim that power corrupts" - I did not 'claim' that, I said "personally I believe that power corrupts", a very different thing), of having you sidestep when I ask you to prove that I said what you claimed I said, of avoiding answering straightforward questions like mine above (an attempt to work out where fundamentally we differ), of general simian level responses of turd-throwing from you.

I've tried a couple of times being polite, it's pointless. I find it hard to believe anyone on the reg would be given the amount of leeway you have without being spanked harder or outright banned. Your most recent posts are mainly raw insults. Screw this. I'd like the reg moderators to do *something* to bring a saner life for us all. Mods, can I have your view on this, including me dampening down my own posts if you think they need it.

Roo or anyone else, would you please report this as abuse to bring it to the attention of the mods. Matt, if you wish to do the same, that would be great.

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Re: Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

> You claimed it was not an assumption, you stated it was happening

I do not recall saying that it was happening, and I'd like you to show where I did. However, I am deeply *concerned* that it is happening and it will get worse because personally I believe that power corrupts and very few indeed are immune. You may not share my belief, hence my questions, which I'd like you to answer so I know what your basic assumptions are. If these assumptions are so different from mine we'll both realise there's little to be gained by debating and we can politely agree to disagree. So, again

1) Is it credible that [NSA + their controllers] will always use [this interceptionfacility] correctly?

2) Do you even accept that [this interceptionfacility] can be abused?

3) If (2) = yes, how likely is it that they will abuse it?

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Re: Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

Hmm. Not the response I was hoping for. Let's try again.

Please lay out your assumptions regarding NSA interception and whether those who have access to said interceptions (ie. a very few) will always be immune to the lure of using such power for personal or political gain (ie. abusing it).

Is it credible that they will always use it correctly?

Do you even accept that it can be abused?

How likely is it that they will abuse it?

(edit: and could you keep it absent of insults please)

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Re: Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

Hi Matt,

Perhaps if you take on board the faint possibility that posts here come from real people that simply hold different views often for good reason; that they aren't just condensations out of the ether, then we could get along better. Honestly, watching you impotently rage at the world and working yourself up further is a bit worrying.

We see the world differently, so our values and expectations are different. What concerns us is different from what concerns you. We may reach an agreement or just agree to differ if we understand your position and you try to understand ours, so how about laying out your assumptions on this subject and we can take it from there?

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Re: Boringgreen Roominant Anon Cluetard Roominant @Bernard M. Orwell @Plump & Bleaty

Hi plumps

>"Excellent, comprehensive post..." It took less time to completely debunk it than it did to read it.

I didn't read your 'debunking', I many others did either, because you can't write without it going though the powerful Plump'n'Bleaty Truth Filters (TM) and TBH your 'truth' doesn't align with reality (a polite way of saying you make up all sorts of shit).

> This is my surprised face, honest.

Nah. A long-snouted wooly phiz with grass-green lipstick all in eternal ovine mastication is your surprised face. And your thinking face. And your upset face. And your angry face. And your sleepy face. And your vengeful face. And your oh-look-there's-a-unicorn face. A quadrupedal Roger Moore, really.

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Re: Roominant Anon Cluetard Roominant @Bernard M. Orwell

Excellent, comprehensive post sir. Perhaps you would care to re-post at the start of another relevant thread rather than the dying tail of this one so it gets the audience it deserves.

> Finally, I would like to ask about the cost/benefit ratio for these programmes of surveillance.

Aye, this a line I took with Plump'n'Bleaty, spelt it out repeatedly just to have him ... well you know what he does by now. Mis-attribute and lie. You can lose a lot of time engaging with him when he's doing twat factor 8, cap'n.

Strange guy. He's not a troll in the usual sense, he's well-meaning in his own way.

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Re: Roominant Anon Cluetard Roominant @Roo

> pointing put your desperate retreat is!

That sounds all kind of backwards - do you think he's using port 08?

(PS. like your style)

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello cottonbud,

> "That's your request...." Yes it is, and you have been avoiding answering it for days across multiple threads, all because ...

all because I did not use use the EXACT words 'harm' and 'everyone' in MY own words (not quoting someone else) IN THE CONTEXT OF NSA INTERCEPTIONS which you claimed I did, so I'm not obliged to justify it. Dishonest little lambkins.

Nice attempt at another diversion though, plumps.

Ewe tres boring now. More boring that plants vs zombies. Back later.

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> Still no evidence of 'harm',

That's your request, not mine, so just another attempted diversion.

But still no evidence to back up that I said what you claimed I said. Cat got your honesty, lambchop? Dish it out but can't take it, plumpkins?

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> and your inability to supply the evidence of the 'harm' I asked for.

Read this, plumpkins

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> the 'harm' you claimed the NSA's actions were doing to all of us

you are a liar

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

If I did not make such a claim then I do not have to justify it. You said I made the claim but will not back it up.

You remain a liar

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello again my enjoyably rotund little plumpgasm

> So you're going to deny that was when I made the challenge

No, *I* made the challenge; to prove that I said what you claimed I said. You cannot show I said it despite clearly looking through my posts ("Amusingly, whilst looking back through your posts..."). You have not retracted your claim.

You remain demonstrably a liar

> As I said, you and the other sheeple insisted the NSA was destroying privacy and other hysterical claims...

Irrelevant attempt at diversion away from your evident lie.

> Oh no, you misunderstood - exposing your paranoid delusions of The Great (yet strangely evidence-free) Conspiracy To Oppress Us All was a bonus laugh for the readers! Especially as it shows you lied when you said you did not baaaah-lieve in any Great Conspiracy. So, I take it you too baaaah-lieve in unicorns?

I lied? Where? Post the exact link(s) that show this, liar.

> Maybe irrelevant to the thread

Correct. But funny, no? Have a free salt-lick for showing your utter misunderstanding of URLs and web servers, liar.

Cue more denials, evasions [...] conspiracy nutter he is!

MBZCC

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello my fierce little plumpticle

> The original challenge to show the 'harm' done by the NSA's activities in this article on the Bahaman wiretapping looking for drug-smugglers (http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/05/19/latest_snowden_leak_claims_nsa_bugged_all_mobile_calls_in_the_bahamas).

Naughty plumpkins, trying rewrite history again! Bad, bad plumpkins!

No, the 'challenge' is, for the umpteenth fucking time, to show what you claimed I said. Again: "Just post the frigging link to where I (not another person) used the EXACT words 'harm' and 'everyone' in MY own words (not quoting someone else) IN THE CONTEXT OF NSA INTERCEPTIONS."

The only use of 'harm' or similarly-stemmed words in that link are by you. Not me. You have failed to show that said what you claimed I said. You are still a liar. You can become not-a-liar by retracting your claim that I said it and acknowledge it was a mistake. I will accept that in good faith. Until you do you are a liar

> Where it is pretty clear you have no evidence your paranoid delusions are actually happening, but you insist they still will, in the future, 'cos power corrupts (ROFL). Serious tinfoil stuff!

Nice try to divert away from your lie.

> Amusingly, whilst looking back through your posts, I also found this little nugget where you admit your technical incompetence when it comes to security

Another attempt at irrelevant diversion, however, equally amusingly, this comes from the guy who doesn't know even at the basic level how URLs are handled "You are a complete fuckwit." - quote from yet another poor sod whose time had been wasted by Plump & Bleaty

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