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MPs to sue UK.gov over 'ridiculous' EMERGENCY data snooping law

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Re: BleatingGreen Boring Bernie Erroneous Cowherd Contempt @Plump & Bleaty

> Only five minutes [...] an abject failure!

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> please do show me the 'harm' from the NSA's activities you claimed you had proof of.

But plumpkins, did you not click on the nice link? The very one that points out that I didn't say such a thing and asks you to show that I did. And you couldn't and still haven't but now you're making the same accusations again because it's the default plumpness failure mode?

Someone famous (in his own cubicle anyway) once said "Wow, you are just so good at this debating thing - not!". Stupid or dishonest, which?

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Re: Boring Bernie Erroneous Cowherd Contempt @Plump & Bleaty

> Wow, you are just so good at this debating thing - not!

Ewe can talk, plumpkins. Remember this, lambchop?

Easy to 'debate' if you do it your way. And you know by now that if you want to troll, I can troll you better. Want to kick off again my little plumpgasm?

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Re: Erroneous Cowherd Erroneous Cowherd Contempt @Matt Bryant

> If you lived in a sewage farm you would think swimming in shit was the norm

If a certain turd floats by again and again, one might become painfully familiar with it. Anyway, on to the mian point.

> so it is simply foolish to think the sheeple that have started flocking here constitute a true reflection of public opinion.

Let me get this straight. 'The vast majority of the British electorate do not even know The Register exists' but we regists are, in your words, the sheeple. That means the great mass of the electorate *aren't* sheeple?

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Mozilla fixes CRITICAL security holes in Firefox, urges v31 upgrade

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if you've got problems with the interface, don't whinge here

tell mozilla. I did. Go and complain there. I'll dig out some links if you like.

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Turing biopic with Cumberbatch, Knightley to premiere at London Film Festival

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Re: Real portrayl?

"Do the Poles get credit?" / http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28167071

Well, well. It looks yet again that great chunks of history have been left out of my education yet again. I'm getting a bit annoyed by these not-accidental lacunae. Thanks for that link.

And whoever Cicely M. Popplewell is, she doesn't even have a wiki page. Curiously, amazon's got one of her books though <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Information-Processing-1962-Cicely-Popplewell/dp/B000LZH40S>

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Microsoft's MCSE and MCSD will become HARDER to win

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Re: "In test for SQL certifications we ask you to actually create an SQL query"

@Trevor_Pott, @Hans 1

Thanks both, I found the cacls previously (ok, 'sod all' wasn't entirely accurate) but I never found any useful examples, and most especially of using cacls beyond files which is what I was really after. Nothing about how to control one process' access to a non-file resource such as another process, on user accounts, devices such as the DVD, IOW general non-file objects.

Just couldn't find the info so I gave up and maybe just as well as I'm not an admin nor wish to become one, just like to know how to tighten up security in a fine-grained way.

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"In test for SQL certifications we ask you to actually create an SQL query"

Fuck me. That just sums it all up [*].

From what I've seen the stuff you have to learn for their certs is mostly shite anyway. Some is useful as a starting point, the rest is irrelevant theory or click-memorising. You're kept away from the CLI mainly[**], except I guess that with their new shiny powershell they're forcing it on everyone as hard as they can because it's proprietary.

And that last bit is the clue - that with MS everything is just another way of sinking the MS hook deeper into your cheek. Screw what you need, it's what MS wants.

[*] that's my 15 years of MSSQL experience laughing its tits off

[**] btw anyone know any comprehensive source of info on windows security ACL control via the CLI? Because I spent a while looking and could find sod all.

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NEW, SINISTER web tracking tech fingerprints your computer by making it draw

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for the umpteenth time, disable scripting

then enable it selectively if at all. Ditto cookies & flash. How often do people have to be done over before they wake up? Do they ever?

(curiously, I'd put the addthis domain in my squid blocklist quite a while back with the comment "# not quite sure what this is but don't want it.")

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Seventh-gen SPARC silicon will accelerate Oracle databases

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Re: Are these the SPARC or the T processors @Mad Mike

> This leads to issues with cache flushing etc. when switching between threads and more memory access and therefore lower throughput

I thought that the later sparc chips had hardware threading with round-robin thread scheduling exactly for hiding read latency - many slow threads somewhat 'immune' to ram read delays. (am not a chip guy though)

Separately,

> Chipzilla has, for example, made sure recent Xeons are tuned to the needs of workloads like Hadoop

Have they? And how would one tune a chip for such loads? To my knowledge there's nothing specific to hadoop that that the chip architects could focus on. It's heavy on IO, its heavy on java, it's heavy on sorting... but that's nothing unique to hadoop. I'm really puzzled.

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Programming languages in economics: Cool research, bro, but what about, er, economics?

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Re: pings @Bruce Hoult

(actually reads paper, withdraws muppet post. sorry all)

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Listen: WORST EVER customer service call – Comcast is 'very embarrassed'

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Re: This is NOT an aberration...it is how these people do business

This, this, and thrice this.

The rep on the end of the phone is in a pressure sandwich between the client (that's you) below and the corporation above. The corp pays the rep so the corp might as well have rep's kids in a cage in the basement. Your proximal target of anger is the anonymous voice on the phone, the real cause is an evil business policy, get it straight.!

A certain UK high street health-food chain uses similar tactics - buy anything and it's "would you care to buy our magazine / do you want a loyalty card / can I sign you up for one of our special offers / it's 50% off the second item sir, buy something else?" plus immediately being pounced on when entering. Turned out it wasn't the staff being genetically bred to annoy, but company policy. The shop staff told me it pisses off a lot of customers but they don't have a choice.

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NSA dragnet mostly slurped innocents' traffic

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Re: BoringGreen Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

@AC: But if you want a saner life, why don't you just ignore Matt

If it were just me that would be fine; I'd walk away, but if you look back over the the threads he got involved in you'll see it's actually quite a lot of people he's pissing on. I guess it's their call too but I think he drags in a lot of well-meaning newbies who dont' realise what they're dealing with until they're deep in it.

@Roo: Sometimes an opposing view is actually useful and even valid

A good skeptic is of real value. Matt doesn't present arguments with the integrity needed for that. Not even near.

I guess you're both right, roll it up and move on. So I shall. Thanks all.

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Re: BoringGreen Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

Dear Matt, I'm getting really, really tired of being hosed down by your bullshit, being misrepresented (e.g. "your paranoid claim that power corrupts" - I did not 'claim' that, I said "personally I believe that power corrupts", a very different thing), of having you sidestep when I ask you to prove that I said what you claimed I said, of avoiding answering straightforward questions like mine above (an attempt to work out where fundamentally we differ), of general simian level responses of turd-throwing from you.

I've tried a couple of times being polite, it's pointless. I find it hard to believe anyone on the reg would be given the amount of leeway you have without being spanked harder or outright banned. Your most recent posts are mainly raw insults. Screw this. I'd like the reg moderators to do *something* to bring a saner life for us all. Mods, can I have your view on this, including me dampening down my own posts if you think they need it.

Roo or anyone else, would you please report this as abuse to bring it to the attention of the mods. Matt, if you wish to do the same, that would be great.

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Re: Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

> You claimed it was not an assumption, you stated it was happening

I do not recall saying that it was happening, and I'd like you to show where I did. However, I am deeply *concerned* that it is happening and it will get worse because personally I believe that power corrupts and very few indeed are immune. You may not share my belief, hence my questions, which I'd like you to answer so I know what your basic assumptions are. If these assumptions are so different from mine we'll both realise there's little to be gained by debating and we can politely agree to disagree. So, again

1) Is it credible that [NSA + their controllers] will always use [this interceptionfacility] correctly?

2) Do you even accept that [this interceptionfacility] can be abused?

3) If (2) = yes, how likely is it that they will abuse it?

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Re: Boring Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

Hmm. Not the response I was hoping for. Let's try again.

Please lay out your assumptions regarding NSA interception and whether those who have access to said interceptions (ie. a very few) will always be immune to the lure of using such power for personal or political gain (ie. abusing it).

Is it credible that they will always use it correctly?

Do you even accept that it can be abused?

How likely is it that they will abuse it?

(edit: and could you keep it absent of insults please)

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Re: Roominant (the proven liar) @Matt Bryant

Hi Matt,

Perhaps if you take on board the faint possibility that posts here come from real people that simply hold different views often for good reason; that they aren't just condensations out of the ether, then we could get along better. Honestly, watching you impotently rage at the world and working yourself up further is a bit worrying.

We see the world differently, so our values and expectations are different. What concerns us is different from what concerns you. We may reach an agreement or just agree to differ if we understand your position and you try to understand ours, so how about laying out your assumptions on this subject and we can take it from there?

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Re: Boringgreen Roominant Anon Cluetard Roominant @Bernard M. Orwell @Plump & Bleaty

Hi plumps

>"Excellent, comprehensive post..." It took less time to completely debunk it than it did to read it.

I didn't read your 'debunking', I many others did either, because you can't write without it going though the powerful Plump'n'Bleaty Truth Filters (TM) and TBH your 'truth' doesn't align with reality (a polite way of saying you make up all sorts of shit).

> This is my surprised face, honest.

Nah. A long-snouted wooly phiz with grass-green lipstick all in eternal ovine mastication is your surprised face. And your thinking face. And your upset face. And your angry face. And your sleepy face. And your vengeful face. And your oh-look-there's-a-unicorn face. A quadrupedal Roger Moore, really.

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Re: Roominant Anon Cluetard Roominant @Bernard M. Orwell

Excellent, comprehensive post sir. Perhaps you would care to re-post at the start of another relevant thread rather than the dying tail of this one so it gets the audience it deserves.

> Finally, I would like to ask about the cost/benefit ratio for these programmes of surveillance.

Aye, this a line I took with Plump'n'Bleaty, spelt it out repeatedly just to have him ... well you know what he does by now. Mis-attribute and lie. You can lose a lot of time engaging with him when he's doing twat factor 8, cap'n.

Strange guy. He's not a troll in the usual sense, he's well-meaning in his own way.

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Re: Roominant Anon Cluetard Roominant @Roo

> pointing put your desperate retreat is!

That sounds all kind of backwards - do you think he's using port 08?

(PS. like your style)

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello cottonbud,

> "That's your request...." Yes it is, and you have been avoiding answering it for days across multiple threads, all because ...

all because I did not use use the EXACT words 'harm' and 'everyone' in MY own words (not quoting someone else) IN THE CONTEXT OF NSA INTERCEPTIONS which you claimed I did, so I'm not obliged to justify it. Dishonest little lambkins.

Nice attempt at another diversion though, plumps.

Ewe tres boring now. More boring that plants vs zombies. Back later.

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> Still no evidence of 'harm',

That's your request, not mine, so just another attempted diversion.

But still no evidence to back up that I said what you claimed I said. Cat got your honesty, lambchop? Dish it out but can't take it, plumpkins?

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> and your inability to supply the evidence of the 'harm' I asked for.

Read this, plumpkins

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> the 'harm' you claimed the NSA's actions were doing to all of us

you are a liar

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

If I did not make such a claim then I do not have to justify it. You said I made the claim but will not back it up.

You remain a liar

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello again my enjoyably rotund little plumpgasm

> So you're going to deny that was when I made the challenge

No, *I* made the challenge; to prove that I said what you claimed I said. You cannot show I said it despite clearly looking through my posts ("Amusingly, whilst looking back through your posts..."). You have not retracted your claim.

You remain demonstrably a liar

> As I said, you and the other sheeple insisted the NSA was destroying privacy and other hysterical claims...

Irrelevant attempt at diversion away from your evident lie.

> Oh no, you misunderstood - exposing your paranoid delusions of The Great (yet strangely evidence-free) Conspiracy To Oppress Us All was a bonus laugh for the readers! Especially as it shows you lied when you said you did not baaaah-lieve in any Great Conspiracy. So, I take it you too baaaah-lieve in unicorns?

I lied? Where? Post the exact link(s) that show this, liar.

> Maybe irrelevant to the thread

Correct. But funny, no? Have a free salt-lick for showing your utter misunderstanding of URLs and web servers, liar.

Cue more denials, evasions [...] conspiracy nutter he is!

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello my fierce little plumpticle

> The original challenge to show the 'harm' done by the NSA's activities in this article on the Bahaman wiretapping looking for drug-smugglers (http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/05/19/latest_snowden_leak_claims_nsa_bugged_all_mobile_calls_in_the_bahamas).

Naughty plumpkins, trying rewrite history again! Bad, bad plumpkins!

No, the 'challenge' is, for the umpteenth fucking time, to show what you claimed I said. Again: "Just post the frigging link to where I (not another person) used the EXACT words 'harm' and 'everyone' in MY own words (not quoting someone else) IN THE CONTEXT OF NSA INTERCEPTIONS."

The only use of 'harm' or similarly-stemmed words in that link are by you. Not me. You have failed to show that said what you claimed I said. You are still a liar. You can become not-a-liar by retracting your claim that I said it and acknowledge it was a mistake. I will accept that in good faith. Until you do you are a liar

> Where it is pretty clear you have no evidence your paranoid delusions are actually happening, but you insist they still will, in the future, 'cos power corrupts (ROFL). Serious tinfoil stuff!

Nice try to divert away from your lie.

> Amusingly, whilst looking back through your posts, I also found this little nugget where you admit your technical incompetence when it comes to security

Another attempt at irrelevant diversion, however, equally amusingly, this comes from the guy who doesn't know even at the basic level how URLs are handled "You are a complete fuckwit." - quote from yet another poor sod whose time had been wasted by Plump & Bleaty

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

> ".....I'm still waiting, because I didn't,...." Yes you did

I did not say these things. You claim I did and I proved that by providing quotes and links showing you saying so (if the above quote wasn't enough...)

I believe I did not say this, so show me proof I did. A link please - show me where I said these things.

I'm calling you a liar because I don't recall saying them and you won't show where I did.

All my posts are available by clicking on my handle so you can find where I supposedly said it.

I am calling you a liar. Prove me wrong.

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Re: BoringGreen lucki rtard

> Another perfect example of the limitations [...] disintegrates into whining about name-calling.

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello lambchop, sorry for the delay in getting back, 'pooter problems took me all day to fix

> it's 'nom de plume'

my typo

> and the forum rules do not prohibit the use of such

by such a statement you're trying to imply that it is. Well, I'm finding it a touch difficult to believe that Matt Bryant is a nom de plume. Whereas you claim that it is: "Hey, I'm quite happy to put my name (well, nom de plume) to a statement..." And your next para of this post for that matter. Yeah. You chose it because it was (IIRC) the 2nd most common surname, is that right?

> I think we all had a good laugh the last time you load of deluded twits tried accusing me of being this or that account on Faecesbook or LinkedIn

Again diversionary but not a denial. Which is somewhat honest compared to what is about to follow so I won't raise the matter again, just remember that if you value your privacy then so do we, hence the NSA shitstorm.

Now, onto what you just posted:

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".....you claiming that I said there was 'harm' happening to 'everyone' ....." You did make both statements - that we all are being spied on, plus that it was destroying privacy and causing 'harm' [Plump & Bleaty quote]

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And as I said here Just post the frigging link to where I (not another person) used the EXACT words 'harm' and 'everyone' in MY own words (not quoting someone else) IN THE CONTEXT OF NSA INTERCEPTIONS.

I'm still waiting, because I didn't, did I. I'm asking again, to show me, because you didn't manage last time. Post a link. Because I'm calling you a liar on this.

Now as for misrepresenting people, same thread as last link given, you said about my post "I have clicked the abuse button when I see comments that contain abuse" [plump & bleaty quote]

However when I removed that so-called abuse (even when the moderator slapped your fluffy arse for reporting it as abuse when it wasn't), you then said this "You make the assumption that I clicked the 'abuse' button for your drivel, when the reality is I would have clicked a button for 'laughable stupidity' if that was available. Or a button for 'constant repetition' which is against the house rules." [moar plump & bleatiness]

It has to be full of abuse, or laughable stupidity, or anything to prevent you from addressing my point. Because you are a liar. Now post the link to where I said what you said I said, and I'll apologise and retract.

> And the really, really funny [...] hysterical lying and bleating

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Re: lucki rtard

Another shining example [...] past his bedtime

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello plumpling, well, quick example, you claiming that Matt Bryant was a nom de plum. Oh dear. You're not that smart. The idea of all the notice you're attracting by inflammatory posting going to a pseudonym would be unbearable.

And you going silent when challenged about being on linkedin. How curious.

Dishonesty, well, you claiming that I said there was 'harm' happening to 'everyone' <http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/3/2014/06/11/snowden_whistleblowing_big_brother_state_not_1984_just_yet/#c_2215408> but went into bullshit mode, dodging and diving when challented to show I'd said that, because you couldn't, because I hadn't. There's you making shit up.

More later lambchop

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Re: BleatingGreen AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! ...... @Plump & Bleaty

Hello my little plumpgasm, I shall indeed post examples of all your little frolics shortly. But I note you not replying to my specific post so as to carefully not include your delightful and hard-eared moniker of Plump & Bleaty (without deliberately stripping it off *this* time, unlike last time when you claimed you had to because the reg website was making you, you little fibber you).

And again because it's true - "I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative" - J. S. Mill

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Re: AC Marsbarbrain OMGeeez!!! What a DISASTER!!! We're all DOOOOMED!!! Etc. @Plump & Bleaty

Hi my little lanolin-dripper, you being a fucking nuisance again? Well I'm back!

> but the difference between me and the sheeple is I try and fill in the gaps with a little research rather than hysterical conjecture

A little research, a some 'inventing' (shall we say) of 'facts', dismissals of other's posts when inconvenient, quite a bit of dropping in false trails to mislead, repeated misrepresentations of what others have said, and a whole lot of your very special opinion on top.

Here's why the other guy's conversation with you continues - they take a strong civilised position by not insulting you, and assume that what you post is done in good faith. I don't. They should treat you the way you treat them. Until they do, I shall.

So, shall I post some links to when I caught you out 'inventing' facts, & your inability to acknowledge when you're wrong? Yes or no. If you say no then I shan't, if you don't answer a clear no then I shall. Do you want them brought up again?

Sheeple, sheepl, sheeple, ewe so original but deep down you know you are the plumpest, bleatiest, wooliest, scuttliest, most obedient little sheep around, and you just love it when Farmer looks after you.

"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative" - J. S. Mill

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Boeing to start work on most powerful rocket ... EVER!

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Re: The announcement is also factually incorrect @Voland's right hand @fnj

> SRBs are unforgiveably STUPID. / SRBs for manned vehicles are CRIMINAL.

umm, why??

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Re: The announcement is also factually incorrect @Voland's right hand

Thanks for the energia ref, I had a strong suspicion this wasn't "the most powerful".

> "No Russian components"

Given the way Russia's behaving right now, I can see the sense of it. Totally.

However,

> SLS team quite clearly prefers to go technologically backwards to the days of the shuttle launcher design. It is a technological step backwards

This I'm not so sure this is a bad thing. Old tech is tested and its limits and abilities better known. Why do you think this is bad, technically?

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Storm-battered Rockall adventurer recalls 'worst experience of my life'

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Re: So once again ... @BlueGreen @Ledswinger

'Merkins don't say "innit", innit.

Since you raise the issue, I've given plenty to charity and worked for one, but that's not the point. Because you give nothing doesn't mean that anyone different from you is required to "give generously to every single deserving cause" (my italics). Don't spin what I said.

It is about free will. If you're the kind who doesn't care about the suffering of others, ok, there's your free will right there and I wouldn't take it away from you, but boasting about your indifference just makes you appear a crass and unpleasant person.

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Re: So once again ... @Ledswinger

It's hard to care if you can't see them die, innit. Glad you've got 5 pieces of trash though.

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Re: So once again ...

Interesting point, upvoted, however stunts are publicity and publicity means awareness and so more donors.

I'm not at all sure that stunts invalidate the charitability of the giving. Just my feeling though.

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I'll just repost this

biiig wave breaking over Rockall.

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You 'posted' a 'letter' with Outlook... No, NO, that's the MONITOR

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Re: When you can't hold it in your hand, or worse you have to right click on it

These engineers can see the parts moving, can see how they fit together, can take the fairing off a sub-part and dig at the insides, again seeing the subcomponents moving and fitting, and where there are burns, leaks, wear marks away etc.

Computers don't have the physicality of this, even though they've got a strong hierarchical construction, virtually speaking, there's little to no visibility of this hierarchy without specialised tools, and not all that much with the tools. So it is harder in a way, and also takes a different kind of engineer to be interested in it; us lot.

And most people aren't engineers of any sort.

Aside: A certain someone I know is a lifelong scientist and wrote a book. Treated MS Word as a typewriter despite my explaining repeatedly about styles. Could not abstract away from 'make text italic+courier+12pt' to 'make text a style which can be italic+courier+12pt, or anything you want, and if you do it that way you just change it once to bold+arial+11pt and it changes throughout the whole document'. Never got it. Was putting page breaks in manually. Was going to go through and put the page numbers in manually...

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Microsoft confirms Office 365 price rise

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Re: Looks like they're pulling an Adobe @Erik4872

> it was the difference between licensing 4 virtual cores or 12 physical ones.

It's been a while since I looked at the license for mssql but I though it was not licensed per core but per socket, so if you had say a pair of hex core chips in your server you paid for 2, not 12. I may be wrong but it's worth a check.

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No, modular Java isn't dead. It'll be in Java 9 – honest

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an alternative to java is scala

I took a long look at java and carefully stepped over the steaming pile. It's much better now but still poor IMO; poor typing, clumsy & verbose syntax, many corner cases etc.

I recommend scala. Downside is performance is not great (compiler is notoriously slow), but it's far nicer to use and is mostly interoperable with java as it compiles to the JVM.

I hear good things about clojure too but I believe it has dynamic lispy typing, whereas scala's is static which I prefer (and before anyone kicks off about how 'restrictive' static typing is, just don't. Learn scala (or haskell) and you'll see what static typing done properly is like).

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'Disruptive innovation' is nonsense? Not ALWAYS, actually

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Re: Homework @Tim Worstall

To add to meh1010's recommendations, may I also suggest The Effective Executive by Peter Drucker. Old but not outdated. I found it very thought provoking, and it's pleasantly short. It specifically covers obsoleting yourself before your competitors do.

Can't comment on this article but I look forward to violently disagreeing with you again in the near future.

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Remaining Snowden docs will be released to avert 'unspecified US war' – ‪Cryptome‬

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Re: BoringGreen Paul Crawford Cryptome @Plump & Bleaty

PlumpkinsTerrifying Predator, ewe just boring now and I have things to do TTFN. Back soon I'm sure as ur good fun.

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Re: BoringGreen Paul Crawford Cryptome @Plump & Bleaty

Hello plumpkins lethal pile of muscle and teeth

> So you're still desperately trying to avoid admitting you knew nothing about the NSA or GCHQ pre-Snowden?

Sure I knew. What we didn't know before snowden was (prick up those tiger ears plumpo) was the extent of the surveillance. That's what snowden revealed. That's what you've been whinging about all along.

> Quite the opposite, it shows character and a determination to stand up for what they believe in, taking responsibility for their actions

Like snowden.

> The fact that you don't even know about Perry Fellwock,

... is true but irrelevant. Since you have not provided the info I sought, I cannot retract my statement. You therefore concede I'm correct.

> I supplied facts and verifiable information to ...

... divert from the fact you got caught out claiming that the EU's Committee on Civil Liberties didn't have legal standing. Didn't work (again). Sorry, my little cotton bud, hope the tooth is feeling better.

Now, from the wiki page about fellwock (ta for the ref) it says something really striking. Let me post it in full because it deals with EXACTLY the concerns that every person has here, but passes you by totally, and will do forever I suspect (words are of Frank Church regarding the Fellwock revelations):

"...[T]hat capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such [is] the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology... I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return

Sadly, sheep are cute and tigers are beautiful, but neither are intelligent.

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Re: BoringGreen Paul Crawford Cryptome @Plump & Bleaty

Hello plumpness vicious carnivore

> Fail again! Apart from the fact those gents stood trial whereas Snowjob ran to hide behind Pooties' skirts, the whole point was to show that you were ignorant of the large amount of information out there pre-Snowjob.

You said "it is the fact that they brought copious amounts of information into the public arena". Snowden did. Whether anyone stood trial is irrelevant to the release of the information. So snowden did good like the others did good, right?

> never said ECHELON was put on trial

you are correct

> what I clearly stated [...]is that those people stood public trials where the evidence of their whistleblowing was examined, including the information they leaked

Ref please, and I'll retract. If I don't provide evidence which I need to retract my statement then you are conceding that I am correct.

> Once again, your civil liberties commission has authority to make policy about laws

At least you've given up on the 'politicised whimsy' line and gone to 'unelected Euro bureaucrats' (giggle).

Anyway, you said they had no legal standing. Again, from their website, the link to which you cannot apparently click (bit of footrot paining you there, plumps?)

"

The Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs (LIBE) is in charge of most of the legislation and democratic oversight for policies linked to the transformation of the European Union in the area of freedom, security and justice (AFSJ) (art. 3 TEU).

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So it "...is in charge of most of the legislation..." but has no legal standing?!

> Euro Court of Justice blah blah

Plumpo tries the distraction technique again. Falls flat on face again. Breaks fearsomely sharp canine.

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