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Agreed, and the answer is likely to be the same as the dragon attack - they would put in place the same major incident plan that they use for natural disasters, terrorism or civil unrest.
Re: And what was Rossendale Council's response?
It does seem a perfectly legitimate inquiry to me - particularly if it was requested by a journalist who already knows it has happened at least once and was therefore trying to ascertain how often it happens in order to report the matter accurately.
IANAL but is it actually a breach of copyright? There are narrow exemptions in UK law for fair dealing particularly for news reporting. If they were posting the entire match then that would clearly be a breach, but given they are only posting 6 second chunks that is about 0.1% of the copyrighted product.
Re: Just a personal feeling
I agree about the itchy feeling, then I looked at how long in real time these images took to make.
I'm not currently worried about a swarm of robots that can form a shape in little under 12 hours!
Indeed, but it provides evidence of increased likelyhood that the owner (who hasn't reported it stolen) is likely to have been there along with the phone. If the owner wasn't with the phone then they'd be expected to give evidence in their testimony of why the phone wasn't in their possession and apparently wondering round the city - if it was with a friend who, if it was stolen then how did they then get it back again.
Re: Hope not.
Using a mobile which is not attached to the dashboard with a hands free kit is illegal whilst operating a car. If you are using a handsfree kit it is legal - and with voice commands you can send texts and do data tests as well.
" If Twitter didn't exist, likely something else would have caused this woman to have this delusion."
And that is why this report started with the line "Twitter can trigger psychosis in predisposed users". "Predisposed" means that other things may also trigger it. The point of the report is that Twitter is one risk factor that should be considered, and the report provided evidence and explanation of why Twitter may more likely to do so than other activities (such as reading El Reg comments for instance).
Re: I don't get the moaning
The moaning is simple. A patant should be for something novel and non-obvious to someone skilled in the art. Companies should only apply for patents if they believe this is true and the patent office should only grant patents if they believe this is true.
Unfortunately what the patent office thinks is novel and non-obvious appears to differ wildly from those who consider themselves skilled in the subject matter at hand. The moaning comes from observing companies appearing to take advantage of the discrepancy and with the money to be able to afford to do so.
Pebble (for instance) probably wouldn't have spent vital start up money patenting something that isn't novel or non-obvious - putting more advanced electronics into smaller form factors and talking to your wrist is something talked about in both fiction and non-fiction for decades.
Re: Price isn't based on cost
But supply should be based on cost, and if there is a large differential between cost and price then supply should go up, driving down cost until they balance out.
Unfortunately we don't have a pure market and it is artificially distorted - one of the most significant being the restrictions on 'grey market' imports.
As a cable company with a paid for license does that mean they get the rights to start 'regionalized' adverts into their broadcasts (which previously they couldn't do as they would have been infringing the copyright)? If so they may actually be able to recoup at least some of the costs from the advertising
Being too generous
I think El Reg is being way too generous on protonmail. How and where the email is composed and encrypted is irrelevant. The web based client shouldn't be trusting what is sent to it and should have been written from the ground up to be secure against malicious input.
And as a counter post I'd point out Paul Chambers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Joke_Trial) who got convicted of sending menacing emails for a joke on twitter. It was eventually overturned on the THIRD appeal but it is cases like that why the majority of the El Reg readership wants laws that don't require sensible people to selectively enforce them.
Re: What about those black-box locator pings?
News just in: things don't always perform to specification.
But how long? Building a wall the same height as the comcast tower may be simple if it is also the same width as the comcast tower, start building a wall multiple miles long and I'm sure complexities start to happen (roads, wildlife and existing buildings for a start).
The maths on a "mere" $160 million per mill also don't stack up particularly well, just 10 miles is 1.6 billion, three 33.3 mile stretches are 16 billion, (see comparison to costs of tornadoes here http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/damage$.htm).
Perhaps if they built more houses out of bricks not sticks then the hurricanes wouldn't blow them all down? This is likely to be far far cheaper and have many health and other positive benefits to the poor in those areas as well!
The interesting question is what adwords are shown alongside the results on google.com. If they are adwords were sold by a European based division of Google then the EU will probably conclude that the results on the google page are still in the remit of the EU (as per the original judgement). If they are not then whether google.com has to be impacted is more difficult to call - though the Canadians have ruled that the answer is yes (probably fairly given how much geolocation adjustments google do).
To me the issue isn't that the Yo app was created (the inventor obviously has a far better understanding of the market than me to predict that such a simple and limited app can be sufficiently valued for people to download and use. And I don't disagree that there is some level of value there for some people individually - though very limited value to society as a whole.
The issue is that some venture capitalists believe that value can be realised into tangible hard currency..That they believe that that inspiration and 8 hours work is worth investing $1 million dollars and that somehow they expect significant returns to justify that gamble. Perhaps the inventor is really a genius as I (and most reg comentards) fail to see a business model which could possibly come close to doing that (given the barriers to entry is 8 hours work if not less). The company is therefore perceived as being blatantly over valued in a dot com 2.0 bubble. That million dollars is likely to be spent on operations such as marketing which add little value.
Captial is finite, there is an opportunity cost of that million dollars being invested in company A rather than company B. Both may produce value but in a rational market if company A produced less long term value than company B then company B should get the money not A. The professors argument would seem to be that there are far better businesses that have the potential to provide far more value not only to the end users, investors but also externalities benefiting society as a whole.
At some point this dot com bubble will burst (valuations are clearly excessive compared to projected income and a business plan of make big losses and then be brought at an overinflated price isn't sustainable). When the bubble bursts investors will loose money meaning they can't invest in other stuff, or get hesitant and invest in 'less risky' markets. In both cases firms producing products with real tangible long term value are also going to suffer and fail to get the necessary investment to bring that value to fruition.
Re: Brooks is FOUND innocent
"Brooks has not been found innocent. She IS innocent. It sticks in my craw to say it, especially after the witch hunts against innocent people that occured under her watch. But the principle must stand that it is the job of the prosecution to prove guilt, rather than the defence to prove innocence. Hence innocent unless proven guilty."
She has been found NOT GUILTY (beyond reasonable doubt) and therefore must be presumed innocent. Whether she is truly innocent or not we can't say; not if they want to avoid a libel suit anyway but interestingly if that happened I believe they would only have to prove that she was guilty on the balance of probabilities not beyond reasonable doubt.
Re: Snowden is neither a whistleblower or hero
"Snowden revealed what most people believed anyway so he wasn't a whistleblower. A whistleblower discloses what you don't know and cannot guess for example that the tobacco industry knew in the 50s that cigarettes killed people."
Interesting definition, but I'm clueless as where you got it from.
"A person who informs on a person or organization engaged in an illicit activity." (Oxford English Dictionary:)
"a person who tells police, reporters, etc., about something (such as a crime) that has been kept secret" (Merriam Webster)
"a person who informs on another or makes public disclosure of corruption or wrongdoing." (dictionary.com)
In none of these definitions does it come close to adding criteria that it is something that you "cannot guess". Suspecting what the NSA/CIA/GCHQ were up to is meaningless, I can guess at lots of things they were doing, some of them would have been right, some of them wrong, what Snowdon provided was whistle-blowing evidence as to which of the guesses were on the mark. Before the relevations most guesses would just have been dismissed as conspiracy theories and couldn't have been printed seriously in reputable sources such as newspapers or academic papers (editors like a level of proof).
As for your other comments, I'd need a whistle-blower to confirm it but I'd assume both China and Russia already knew all the details of what the US and UK were up to, they have decent intelligence agencies after all doing much of the same stuff (probably even more in reality) I doubt anything that Snowden revealed is news to them. The only people who didn't know is the public who payed for it and are violated by it. It would be fantastic if we got visibility of what the other countries are also doing but lack of that visibility shouldn't mean that we don't know about what our own governments are doing.
As to damaging the national security, I agree the national security has been damaged, the people who allowed such broad unrestricted spying, particularly the reciprocal relationships designed purely to get round the letter of the law should be brought to justice for breaking those laws, not the person who reveals the wrong doing.
The premise "Google is violating this right to be forgotten in order to remember who it has been asked to forget" is overlooking the fact that this isn't about the right to be forgotten. The judgement was made under the data protection direction that a person has a right to have accurate and up to date information being processed about them. They are therefore allowed to store the fact that a person has requested to be removed (it's essential to process the request and it is valid data anyway).
But are they going to prosecute those hackers in the NSA/CIA/GCHQ who steal (sorry 'lawfully' intercept) private business and personal information?
Any scientist who knows that they are only working with (competing) theories and not proofs would use the words "I believe" as a shorthand of saying "Based on the evidence I have observed, the analysis and reports of experiments that other scientists have reported and that I have read, my judgement on the quality of those scientists, experiments and analysis, and my own mental ability the conclusions I personally have tentatively reached as to the implications and meaning of that works is the following.."
Science is made up of beliefs, good science is when scientists will change their beliefs when new data arrives. Bad science is when scientists through pride, funding concerns, vested interests, snobbery or group think refuse to change their beliefs in the face of new evidence.
Capitalism 101 assumes a perfect market place with perfect knowledge. Whilst you are right to a degree on the power that independents have on the supply side you are forgetting that Youtube has large control of the demand side - the large proportion of people who use Youtube to browse and view music they know of and then stumble across music they don't. The music they know will predominantly be from the major labels and music they don't know is the music they won't stumble across so won't know they are missing out on so won't go looking on other music services*.
Don't forget the major labels may only be 20% of the workforce but a much larger proportion of the market viewings.
* some will of course, but the majority won't
Looks like his next case should be a libel case against the DMA then? If the judge had thrown the case out they probably could get away with claiming that, but given a judge has already rules his case has merit I think they'd struggle to justify calling him a troll.
"Aidis points to educational efforts to encourage female students to take an interest in and pursue STEM fields as having the potential to change the business climate and change the business climate and make the startup space more viable for women."
The whole article talks about the fact there are less woman managing startups, it just gives the numbers providing no evidence of why there may be such a disparity, then at the end implies that it is the business environment which is the reason (somehow it is unviable). Even the quote saying this seems to give the reason that (rightly or wrongly) woman aren't generally as interested in STEM fields or potentially the risky endeavor of starting a startup.
Perhaps their are valid reasons - maybe banks/investors are less likely to lend to female entrepreneurs? Or perhaps it is just that woman and men don't always (on average) want the same things?
Re: @ Rustident Spaceniak
> Raise taxes on the very rich and spend them on what? Well, if the whole point of the exercise is to reduce wealth inequality, then it would surely be politically toxic to spend them on anything other than wealth redistribution. So the result of that is to give more welfare to the people who, as you say, are essentially dependent on welfare. If their dependence on welfare is the problem, how does that solve it?
Training for the unemployed? Childcare vouchers for those in work. Tax breaks for low income earners. Low skill labour intensive projects that guarantee anybody who wants to work can get a job in a location they can get to.
These are just some ways (some better than others) that wealth distribution can be done whilst meaning people aren't percieved as scrounging on welfare, and hopefully give them the ability to gain skills and experience to get better jobs and require less welfare in the long run. The big challenges is structuring things in a way so that it is financially worthwhile to transition from being on welfare to just being off welfare - at the moment arbitary transition points means earning more can result in less takehome pay.
Re: Politics of Envy
> In 1997 the top 1% of earners contributed 20% of all income tax received by the treasury. In 2007 it was 24.4% and now it is 29.8. Tax loopholes are getting harder to exploit, not easier.
If the disparity between the top 1% earners and the median earners is going up significantly then the proportion of the total earnings that those top 1% make would also go up wouldn't it? Which means the amount they contribute goes up even if they are paying a smaller percentage of their individual earnings. This would be the case if the graph of earnings was more of an exponential curve going up steeply as you get to the top 1%, rather than a straight line even distribution.
The decision clearly makes is clear there is a valid public interest defense, hence google saying
"as well as whether there’s a public interest in the information - for example, information about financial scams, professional malpractice, criminal convictions, or public conduct of government officials."
Ultimately Google have the right to refuse to comply to the nicely committed request in the form for whatever reason they wish, the requester can then take them to court to get a judge to decide what is in the public interest. Of course that relies on the human (?) at google realizing that their might be a public interest and caring enough to reject the request - it would be interesting to see whether this happens or not in reality.
That has (probably) already been found: http://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Overview/AEhypothesis.html
Re: Platoooooo0n - HALT!
This is a prototype not an end product..
Re: Platoooooo0n - HALT!
Taxis are expensive, especially wheelchair equipped taxis, require planning to use, have limited flexibility (how long will your shop take), and require depending upon a total stranger (will they actually turn up and pick you up at the requested time?). Having their own pod available when they need will greatly improve the lives of many disabled people.
If they are calling a pod rather than owning it then some of those arguments go, but again the reliability is likely to be greater and the psychological view of it different as well.
This is probably one of the worst pieces of FUD I've ever seen on The Register.
Most of the arguments boil down to saying the technology isn't fully developed and if someone does something stupid/doesn't think things through properly then it will do stupid stuff. The suggestion that Google doesn't have highway simulators and traffic experts is farcical.
You could argue that the cars will probably be travelling at the fastest speed that is safe in the given road conditions - I much more trust the sensors and reaction times of the car than human drivers. Given this if any cars are coming up faster behind them it could be considered a good thing for safety that they are forced to slow down.
The traffic light logic is also dubious - assuming cars get through at a constant rate is nonsense - most human drivers take in the region of up to a second (or more) to realise that the lights have changed and to start accelerating so it an (initial) enforced 1 second delay to make sure the junction is clear is unlikely to be anywhere near as significant as portrayed - and in time it may get reduced/adjusted anyway.
I agree that driverless cars doesn't automatically mean less traffic on the roads (and may mean more). Traffic isn't the same as congestion though. Most congestion is caused by bad driving such as sharp breaking causing ripple effects, and/or inefficient changing of lanes/merging traffic etc. If the majority/all vehicles were driverless and the technology sufficiently advanced then this type of congestion would be significantly reduced.
Re: Misogynist bilge from the Reg
The article is about rich woman who go about calling other woman sluts. Bitch seems a more than appropriate colloquialism to describe a woman who bullies and slags off other woman (just because they are perceived by that woman as being lower class and inferior) and is actually being more than hypocritical when doing so.
The Register isn't saying all rich woman are bitches, just that scientific (ok sociological) research has identified a class of them who are malicious hypocritical bitches.
Re: great, back to the "same old same old"
"Innovate until the competition has not choice" only works if it is a competition. If the game is being rigged through bribes or law breaking then the choices are either to do your own bribery and law breaking, or attempt to expose the suspected bribery and law breaking to get back to a more even field where your innovation can beat the competitions innovation. I'm glad Musk appears to be trying to get the laws stuck too - even if the exposure is self serving.
I'm still confused as to how a letter from a government department saying we don't want to consider something as illegal is enough to get a judge to overturn a decision, surely the judge should judge based on the letter of the law whether it is legal (which presumably is what they did the first time?)
Re: no wonder bing sucks
Even if we give the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are refering to 20% of the components (dll/jar/whatever) changing rather than individual lines of code I still can't imagine what thousands of programmers could actually be doing on Bing. If there really were that many programmers working on it it would either be absolutely amazing and feature rich, or perhaps a complete and utter failing mess as no one could have an overview or architectural view of what was happening on it.
Yes.The audio identification service facebook are using may also be given access to it as well.
And what makes you think it hasn't been seen by anybody else before? It may not have been broadcast before (hence it being a premier) but its fairly normal for reviewers to be given pre-screening, as well as rating bodies, internal company executives, quality checkers, advertising placers (to ensure all the legal requirements of advert placement are met etc) etc. It isn't a live event so the audio is available for weeks or months before.
It will be in the programme producers and broadcasters interest to provide this to facebook as mentions on facebook are likely to encourage friends to remember it is on and tune in/watch the catchup, and is good evidence as to the value of advertising slots. In fact unlike most of the current marketing ideas (getting 'Likes' etc) there may actually be a small amount of benefit to them.
Of course a big flaw of it is the assumption that the person on facebook in the room is the person watching the TV, I can imagine that 'Peppa Pig' and other childrens programmes may get mentioned as much as real views.
I don't know why the Register article reported this in the context of just ATMs but reading the original post this appears to be a vulnerability of any Chip and Pin authenticated transaction.
Acquiring access to a remote chip and pin terminal in a restaurant, modifying it and intercepting the communication back to base is not likely to be beyond the means of many criminal gangs and frausters.
As for Mr Ross Anderson reading his blogs I believe his big problems is the fact that banks will routinely lie to customers and claim that chip and pin is infallible (and therefore it is up to the customer to prove that its not their fault) even though there is concrete proof that there are ways to defeat it and therefore the onus should be on the bank to prove that the customer is lying.
if the banks admitted that it isn't perfectly secure and took on the costs of refunding customers when the security is breached then that would be acceptable. At the moment they claim it is secure when they know it isn't, then pass on the costs to the customer who has been defrauded. Because the costs are being externalized to the customer the bank then don't have any benefit to improving the system - until research like this allows their statements to be challenged in court as effectively being fraudulent.
Re: On the other hand...
I don't have it so can't say for sure but I'd assume it would depend on how the service failed as to whether people were impacted.
Presumably the software attempts to connect every time it is started (to ensure you are always at the start of your 7 days no internet period). If it manages to connect to the authorization server but that server is sending a authorization denied for everybody then that would stop everybody from working. I'd further assume even if you then disconnect your network cable the software would have remembered that your last attempt was denied and still not let you log in.
You are probably right if it was unable to phone home for the entire period (or if the authorization server was actually non-responsive) it would have kept working, but for most people it would have been phoning home.and based on the outcry I assume it was returning a not authorized response.
Re: The problem is
My understanding of the judgement is that serving a page found by date in that newspaper article wouldn't count as processing the data on that page, you are merely presenting it. Providing search functionality to search for someones name in that newspaper archive would count as processing personal information and so come under the DPA.
If the newspaper archive were served with the request presumably to comply with it they would have to show the search engine no longer processes/indexes the personal information (the text in the search index has the persons name redacted) but could still display the archive record as long as it wasn't found through processing that persons information.
Whether this makes sense and is the correct balance I'm not sure. Whether lower courts will interpret this that way also is in debate.
Why do they need permission?
My understanding of how ground stations work is that they are basically a fixed antennas, super accurate gps receiver and most importantly precise knowledge of where you really are. With some maths you work out the error between where you really are and where the satellites say you are. This allows you to provide corrections based on errors introduced by atmospheric conditions, wobbles in the earths rotation and the sats orbit etc.
Unless the ground stations are actually broadcasting on radio what permission does the US need to provide? Can't the Russians just subcontract this out to any comms tower operator and/or shove it on the roofs of their embassies?
Re: Hard to cope with?
I don't believe I said that Bangladeshis "just need to deal with it". What I said is that the world can easily deal with it (particularly if we put resources into mitigating the problems rather than wasting it on pointless counterproductive subsidies). However even the people of Bangladesh (with all its poverty) are in many ways less impoverished compared to the people 1000 years ago when dykes were first being constructed. They are significantly better able to cope, have access to better technology, skills and knowledge and could mitigate much of the problems at a local level if necessary even if the world fails to act (which realistically may be the case until after a few disasters). The high population density actually provides a benefit with regards to manpower per km of coastline.
More importantly we are currently spending billions on ineffectual methods to stop climate change which have a negative impact on world GDP (I accept some of the millions spent will be on useful programs as well). If we spent the next 50 years investing that money in impoverished nations instead the net benefits would almost certainly be vastly greater and we'd (and more importantly Bangladesh) would be in a far better position to cope with the changes in the climate (man made or not).
Hard to cope with?
So a massive 4 feet over 2 centuries is considered hard to cope with?
The biggest problem with the whole climate change debate is people over-hyping the severity.
In 200 years of a gradually changing average sea levels I'm sure any nation, or even local community could easily cope with this change. There will probably be some localized flooding from winter storms etc but we would had the technology to handle things like this for over 1000 years (The Westfriese Omringdijk Dyke was finished in 1250AD). So if medieval men with shovels could manage it I really doubt it will cause any long term problems with modern technology (let alone what will be developed in the next 200 years).
Re: Just wondering ...
For all we know the compromised server was storing the credit card numbers on an encrypted hard drive or encrypted database store. However if the data was extracted whilst the system was running this provides little protection against getting the unencypted view of that data. Afterall if the application needs access to the credit card numbers to function then encryption is only a minor hurdle - if the app has the key can decrypt them then so can attackers.
Re: I thought
Agreed, not least because SCOTUS is rather cryptic as to what it stands for particularly when the abbreviation isn't actually defined or the words used in that order!
Re: you may not starve as much as you think @Neil Barnes
But remember a portion of potatoes weighs far more than a portion of dry rice so comparing them gram to gram really isn't a good way to do it. (Which is why the IAMS cat food adverts really annoy me - of course gram for gram dry food is better, you aren't weighing the water or feeding the same weight in food).
It's also not clear if that means they are producing new builds every 16 seconds, or just that because they have so many servers deploying the latest build means every 16 seconds a new server is updated from the previous version.
Of course there is also a fact that Amazon doesn't have 'a software' it is a very large infrastructure of probably hundreds of different applications and components developed by thousands of engineers. Each component probably has its own independent cycles, if there were 200 components that would mean each one is deployed every 2 days or so. With continuous deployment and lots of resources for automation testing that is not quite such a fast rate - though still pretty scary in terms of reproducibility of issues.
Re: So what?
Yes the FBI encouraging people and giving support to people to commit a crime is morally wrong if the drug smugglers are currently only 'wanna-be' not actual criminals - if the FBI didn't give them advice in your scenario would those people ever actually break the law?
More importantly in this case the FBI are knowingly and deliberately acquiring and analysing information that has been obtained illegally, that again is morally, and probably legally wrong
Re: how much time did you give them to put their house in order?
Bank's really aren't much better. I recently had to call various of my banks for travelling but had forgotten half my password information but that wasn't a question as long as I answered a set of security questions, all of which could easily be answered by anybody who had got possession of my wallet (containing cards+drivers license), a couple of the slightly 'better' ones would also have required them to have stolen my Wife's purse at the same time. Given that often both wallets will be together (possibly in the same handbag) this really the sort of security to be comparing to.
Look like you missed out on your tour the Sunken Gardens with it's fish pond contaiing massive Koi Carp and beautiful surroundings - a place of tranquility few offices can provide.
Re: Home Automation - Security
You'll probably find on the web precise instructions of where to drill to disable the deadlock and/or how to pick the lock - potentially with little but a few scratch marks to detect someone has done it. You'll probably also find how easy it is to remove the glass from many type of double glazing units from the outside, and other ways for people to get into your house.
Just because you don't think about your deadlock doesn't mean it is inherently secure. That said home security does have the advantage that somebody actually has to be physically there to be breaking in which greatly increases the risk to them - which is the real deterrent not the actual lock.