Re: What about the flagship store
More security than fanboys... That's gotta be embarrassing.
2410 posts • joined 17 Apr 2007
More security than fanboys... That's gotta be embarrassing.
£200 tablet with multi-user!
I'd rush right out and buy one if I didn't already have one!
I hope the app devs have been following the rules and guidelines correctly so my Angry birds scores are protected from the missus!
IIRC, Google announced the N7 would get the 4.1.2.
It's not really an odd thing for Asus to announce, someone probably ask them about it, so they answered.
Doubt it has much, if anything, to do with the iPad mini news (which from what I have seen is "Smaller queues than usual for Apple device"). The N7 already kicks it about with the existing facts and figures. Hardly need multiuser support to do that. Although having said that, getting some Android coverage from El Reg is quite something - This site pretty much slept through the Google announcement last Monday with one single, very short, copy/paste article.
It might have been out for several weeks, but it took its sweet time getting to some of us. It took a week from first reports to reaching my N7 in the UK despite me pressing the check button at least twice a day.
I know seven days is a hell of a lot better than you get for the non-Nexus devices, but it was frustrating not knowing when it was going to be my turn, others in the UK got it within days.
Worth the short wait though. It might not have had many headline features (home screen rotation was about it), but it seems to have fixed the right hand side of touch screen becomes unresponsive issue I had seen (a quick off/on used to clear it, so I was 99% sure if was a software issue).
One man's fragmentation is another's consumer choice.
A Fandroid decides if he wants his chosen OS on a phone with an SD card or not. He chooses the screen size he wants, if he wants a real keyboard or just a virtual one. FM radio? NFC? Or maybe he fancies a stylus... etc.. etc.
A Fruitdroid just crosses his fingers the great west coast oracle will give him what he was missing with the last model, and when it doesn't he still queues up and buys it.
With NASA out of the running, the El Reg special projects bureau could be a world leader!
So Apple can't edit a simple website page in under 14 days?
Maybe Samsung should think about using that their next laptop ad...
"Why take 14 days to edit your website, the new Intel i7 powered Samsung XYZ can do it in minutes"
I was expecting a little more in the shape of a contempt of court charge. Maybe they decided to give them one last chance to get it right before hitting them with that.
Given the minimal coverage the Google multi-launch has received here, I suspect you could be right.
They managed to keep the buy-out from The Guardian pretty quiet didn't they!
At last, El Reg reports on the actual launch which world+dog (including the BBC) has covered all day.
Pity Google don't seem to deserve the 1 article per device/minor feature the apple event received.
How about a mention of Android 4.2's tablet-tastic multiuser support? In my household that is going to be a rather big deal.
Apple ban El Reg from their events and gets months of pre and post launch coverage.
Google, as far as I know, haven't banned El Reg, but cancelled their event for sensible safety reasons, and have still announced the products they were going to unveil at the cancelled event.
El Reg's coverage, bugger all.
Even the BBC have managed to cover it before you!
Hang your moth-eaten vulture head in shame!
Can't disagree with you there... They say St Jobs had a hand in the design, what did he do? Hide any of the real designers tools which weren't comprised purely of right angles?
Indeed.... Even after googling "Hollyhock" I was still bemused! Possibly not the best choice for colour identification!
You could always have a go at writing the apps yourself... The Android dev software and platform emulator is completely free, has good online docs and will run on any Mac, Linux and Windows.
The name "Corolla" has been sold on a car more than any other model, but beyond the badge I don't think the range have anything else in common! They've even changed from rear to front wheel drive!
The VW Beetle is probably a better example of a single model.... Right up until they stuck a Beetle shaped body on a Golf a few years back.
The width could be an issue though. The N7 just slips into the back pocket of my jeans. I doubt an ipad mini would.
Thank you for your detailed and in-depth review. You've obviously spent a lot of time with an N7.
Although I think you might have missed a couple of things. In my comparatively short time with my N7 16g (couple of months) I have used it for the following:
Teamviewer/VNC/RDP remote control
FTP server for router firmware updates
Email (both Gmail app, and other IMAP/POP based systems using K9)
Catching up on the MotoGP via iPlayer (sideloaded flash whilst waiting for BBC to "sort their life out")
Much gamidge (okay, that's the missus - PvZ, All the angry birds, Bubble shoot, Draw Free, SongPop etc etc)
Beebroid BBC micro emulator - old scoolz! That's for me :-)
Radio when I'm in the bath via Absolute radio app
Showing semi-posted photographs to clients on the rather lovely screen (I do a sideline in photography)
It's been worth it's weight in gold when building PCs for referring to motherboard manuals when the original has been lost. No need to carry a laptop anymore.
Not to mention the old favourites of Skype (with video chat of course), facebook, twitter, and reading/writing drivel in the comments on El-Reg, with the swype keyboard.
Oh yes, I do have several browsers installed. Why? I've been known to do websites, so testing on other browsers is a good idea.
After all that, I've still got 10gig free, so I won't be rushing off to buy a 32gig when it comes out, although I might buy one for the missus.
Oh, and so far I haven't spent a penny on apps.
I don't know about you, but I prefer girlfriends which are less wide!
Glossy and low res... Even Apple have started to listen with their new iMacs being 75% less shiny!
Now you know why St Jobs wore the black turtle neck - it was the only thing which didn't reflect in his silly shiny screens!
Indeed... It's not like we haven't seen the old "sold out in x hours" and "sales exceeded all expectations" headline grabber once or five times before from certain tablet shifters.
A few thousand votes later and it is pretty much the same!
I went for Connery too, although wishing it was proportional representation so I could give 2nd choice to Craig, so I'm glad to see that he is indeed in second place.
You're both right.
I was a Symbian user for many years, the 7650, the 6600, N70, N95 and the infamous N97. I'm sure I've missed one.
Back in the early days it was simply superb, ground breaking in fact. Even the N95, which suffered from a shaky start (thanks to the availability of OTA updates making OS releases lazy and badly tested - we can fix it later) finally got its life in order.
Unfortunately they didn't learn from the N95's early days, and simply repeated the same with the N97, except they never did get it sorted, and various hardware problems doomed mine to be the only phone I replaced before the end of a contract.
Giving the networks control over OS update releases, and allowing them to customise them, was another huge mistake. Many later (aka fixed) versions never made it beyond the likes of Orange et al. It was possible to "jail-break" the phones and get them back to Vanilla firmware, but it was involved and beyond most.
IIRC, my N95 is currently running V31, most network tied handsets didn't make it beyond V12, and it is a great backup phone with wifi and Opera mini browser if required, sure it's not a touch screen, but 99% of the time you just want a phone and maybe an mp3 player (which the microSD handles perfectly). It does both perfectly. In an emergency you can web browse and it still has full offline maps (something I still miss).
So yes, rather a quaint OS, but functional in most incarnations, and it still had a trick no other smartphone OS has so far matched, namely the ability to go for many days without running for a charger!
and badly kerned too!
"The move may also throw a bit of a wrench in plans by AT&T and other US network operators to implement a "six strikes and you're out" policy on piracy, which is due to take effect by the end of the year. Tracking IP addresses of Pirate Bay users is going to be key to the RIAA and MPAA's enforcement efforts, and that task looks to have become significantly harder with the latest Brahman bootstrapping."
It won't make the blindest bit of difference. The MPAA/RIAA don't rely on physical access to the server to track people on a torrent. All you have to do is start to download it yourself, and ta-da, you have a nice list of IP addresses of people giving you bits of the torrent.
Automating this process is already widely used in the anti-piracy circles.
Good to see the 7650, still got one of those. I seem to remember the N-gage being nothing more than a standard Symbian phone with a different case. I think it was identical to the 6600 hardware (still got one of those somewhere too!).
...with tyre sizes?
Didn't work... So here we still are with width (mm) profile (%age) rim diameter (inches).
And long may it continue!
I want those down votes expunged from the record after the price and spec are announced ok? :-P
Oh, and to the OP... hold back on the N7, looks like a 32gig is in the wings at 16gig price.
And which timezone?!
MS are going to have to pull some serious wedges of cash out of their back pocket and drop it in front of many reporters to get any kind of headline coverage from the sheeple press.
Well at the way things are going it won't be long before micro SD's exceed that... Not that you'll be looking at the fruity firm for that solution though...
Get the Nexus 7... There is no way Apple will make a comparable device for that money. They're famous for their huge margins, and far too proud to be seen to mix it up with the great unwashed low margin tablets.
Seeing as Apple blank you, why don't you do the same... "seeing as how it's sure to be bleated far and wide by a herd of helpful live-bloggers. ®"
Agreed! 7 days with mcafee would feel like a life time!
Looks like it! I think it heard my threat of rooting, because about 30 mins ago it popped up a notification of an update.
Yay \o/ rotation front screen :-)
Still a bit crap that it didn't arrive until 7 days after the code was release to AOSP... You wouldn't think Google would have a shortage of server capacity would you!
A little unfair to blame the tablet for bad third party apps. Most of the apps I use look and work fine, although there are a few which are nothing more than the ipad app ported over by a lazy developer who has probably never used an Android device in his life.
Skype works fine, video chat, no problem.
Flash + iPlayer... Well the latter depends on the former, and the very i-centric BBC have been incredibly slow in getting a non-flash HTML5 version out for v4+ Androids. You can however sideload flash and iPlayer. It works for me.
If you need your plants and zombie in HD, message the developers. Same goes for all the other apps. The more complaints/requests they get, the more likely they are to notice the huge market.
Ummm, thanks, but I've been doing that daily since the middle of last week.
Also moved onto the flushing and terminating the Google framework too.
Still "up to date" with 4.1.1 :-(
I'm starting to worry something is broken/corrupt... To root and do it manually or not... hmmm...
N7 4.1.2 update? UK? Out?
I must admit I'm a little disappointed after the "Nexus devices get updates really really fast" reputation. If I had rooted and installed Cyanogenmod I would have 4.1.2 by now... Which is really defeating the whole benefit of having a Nexus device.
Anyway, back to the main story... iPad mini... It'll sell bucket loads to the usual suspects and general sheeple consumers (of which there are many).
True, but I think it needs clogs, tulips and a few windmills to be conclusive.
Are you sure that was over Holland? The advert at the end if for a Model event in Vienna, and the flag on the retrieval buggy was decidedly Austrian.
The US IP system is totally screwed. Unless El Reg have glossed over some important detail and successfully trolled me, there is *nothing* new or innovative about this.
It is simply a file being encrypted and then decrypted/verified by software on a bit of hardware.
Just like Bluray players, the original iPod lock in, etc etc etc...
Sure it wasn't a shark with a laser?
"Relax, Daleks are useless without their eye. More importantly, did it come alone?"
Hmmm, I'm still not going to risk going near the plunger.
Ah, I see it's care in the community day for the humour bypass patients again.
“I wish they had made a small and a large version of the iPhone; that would have been great for me. Keep the aspect ratio the same, horizontal and vertical the same, but just grow it in the other way,” he says.
Careful Woz... I think Samsung might have a patent on that... Note 2, S3, S3 mini....
I had the misfortune to own a N97. Whilst it wasn't all bad, the most annoying thing was the lack of support, and impression that Nokia had just taken the money and run.
The N97 was the first phone I dumped before the excessively long contract had expired. It was consigned to a draw and replaced with an Android powered HTC Desire Z (yes, I like slide out keyboards) a few month before the Elop hit. I use my trusty old N95 as my backup phone when a go off doing things which might break a phone and would rather it wasn't my 'droid.
So it didn't really matter what platform Nokia went with, my disillusion was with their support, and attitude (I got moderated in their forum for disrespecting Nokia for posting a list of valid and accurate faults).
...to hope there'll be a terrible technical hiccup and the rocket misses the rendezvous completely and sends her barrelling off into deep space in radio silence?
It's actually an even worse comparison than that. Camera flash power is rated in watt/seconds. For example my camera strobes range from 80-120 watt/seconds.
Doesn't sound like much, but when you consider that is all delivered in 1/1000th second, the brightness for that fraction of a second is equivalent to a 80,000-120,000 watt light source. Not something you can power constantly from a coin cell battery in your average laser pointer. A camera flash will take several seconds to recover from that and recharge the capacitor ready for the next 1/1000th second of brightness.
Polarising would cut out some light (from all sources), but which way is the laser pointer polarised? Most aren't.
Even if they were, which way depends how you've pulled it out of your pocket.
So polarising the screen will be no more help than tinting it, cutting out a percentage of all light making everything darker, although it might make the blues of the sky and reflections on the sea look prettier.
One handed from a motorcycle? Are you staring in the next bond movie or something? I assume it's your left hand too (unless you wanted the bike to slow down?).
For a start I do live near an air field, quite a few in fact. The East of England built a lot in the 1940s. One of them is rather large and called London Stansted. Whilst I'll concede that assuming you could aim and hit a moving aircraft with a pointer this would be a risk to a light aircraft, the story is written in such a way as to make you believe the treat is real to 747s, not light aircraft which don't tend to do much night flying.
The story has other inconsistencies too. The whole "power" of a laser is its small concentrated beam. We're talking about a device whos power is measured in milliwatts and run constantly from a watch battery power source for hours on end. Suddenly saying this concentrated beam lights up the entire cockpit like a flash gun, a device which is run from a bank of much larger batteries, via a fast discharge capacitor and then discharged through a zenon tube which delivers more light that a 10,000watt light source for a thousandth of a second. Yes the laser could be defused by the window, but then the inverse square law dictates the power drops to negligible.
So which is it? Does the laser surgically burn the pilots retina off, or does the cockpit light up like a Christmas tree?
Yes, a hovering helicopter would be an easier target, but tell me, what is he going to crash into in those few seconds it take to look away from the idiot with the very steady hand holding the pointer? He's hovering! He might drift a bit, but he's not going to fall from the sky! I might even knock his night vision down a peg or two, but do you know the requirements for a night pilot licence? Yup, instrument only.
I file the laser pointer threat along with the mobile phone threat. They're annoying, but hardly the "we're all gonna die" "Won't someone think of the children?" reaction we're seeing. Otherwise we'd be surrounded by twisted wreckage.
1) You're hand holding a light source and trying to aim it at a point 500 feet away (try it)
2) The point you are aiming at it moving...
3) Even if you could manage 1 & 2, and had a pointer powerful enough, automatic landing systems have been in use for decades. The pilots are only there for situations where the automatic systems can't handle it (and to be honest, most pilots are too inexperienced to do anything better than the automatic systems anyway!).
Having said all that, the twats on the ground should get a good clip round the ears for even trying it.