2354 posts • joined 17 Apr 2007
Sure the UI isn't as polished as the iPhone, but it's also nowhere near as expensive! Free on a £35 a month tarrif with 1200 mins and unlimited text/data. Try and get a 32gig iPhone for that!
I've been using symbian phones for years, so for me the UI was a doddle. Everything was where I expected it. It's nice to not have a huge learning curve. Multitasking is something I've had on my phones for over 5 years.
The killer thing for me is that I can install what I like, from wherever I like onto the phone *I* own. Flash works, java apps work. I currently have 3 browsers (nokia's own, opera mini 4.2 and opera mini 5 beta), two instant messenger clients, 3 twitter clients and a wordpress admin app. The wordpress app is actually written in python, so I installed python too. Grand total for all these useful apps £0.
It's nowhere near as bad as the reviews make out. The current V12 firmware has ironed out some quirks and V20 is just round the corner which will bring some polish... I believe V20 is the firmware Nokia intended to release the phone with, but were forced to push it out early by market forces.
Unfortunately everyone will remember the reviews and early firmware (V10) experience, and the N97 will forever be slated. The N95 had a similar birth (I was a first week adopter), but as anyone still using one with the later V31 firmware will tell you, it's a stunning little phone. Yet the only thing anyone remembers about the N95 is "crap battery life", which was a fault with the early firmware and fixed within a couple of months.
I assume you've had extended experience of the N97 then?
Strange, as mine works fine with V12 firmware, and I'm looking forward to what V20 has to offer later this month.
Don't believe everything you read in online reviews, unless you want your nose inserted up the rear passage of Mr jobs by proxy.
I know it's probably my fault for distracting everyone with talk of pennies and ice-lollies, but I'm astonished nobody had made any reference to Batman's car...
... "Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed" ...
I apologise... I didn't mean to completely turn this comments page into discussions about pennies, dollars (and their etymology) and ice-lollies (Popsicles).
Although it does give me a sense of perverse pride that I have the disruptive abilities of an EMP at google central.
The author did say "Penny", and not being an authority on embossed dead US presidents I let him lead me astray!
Okay, you can have the name penny for your one cent, please look after it carefully... We won't be needing it when our glorious leaders (sorry, I mean representatives of the people) finish selling us up the river (The Seine or Rhine probably) and inflict the Euro on us.
Silly Americans, that's a one cent, not a penny... Does it have the word penny or pence written on it? No... Now go and find your own names for things and stop nicking ours!
You know you can do it... You managed it with popsickle (*sniggers*)
Well I guess after two months they can't be accused of a knee-jerk reaction... Or any kind of effective policing either!
People in positions of power don't get there because of what they know, it's who they know.
Honestly, that's the kind of thing even my brother wouldn't fall for, and he's a truck driver!
Looks like fun...
But this looks like more
I just tried something...
If you look at this picture laid flat on the table, from about a 5 degree angle, it actually looks right.
So all I can assume is the advertising jerk responsible looked at the preview from this same perspective when he approved it.
Now what could he have been doing with his nose right against the top of his desk? :-/
You should see the restrictions Barclays put on their online system before introducing their annoying pin-sentry thing...
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Personally my big worry is social networking sites. You know the main one I mean, the one that offers to add all your messenger friends by taking your messenger username and password when you sign up... I declined their kind offer, but given the number of people who turn up on my friends suggestions, many of my messenger contacts jump at the chance.
How can enough people that need instructions on how to retune their freeview box manage to operate a webbrowser?! Press "menu", select something like "setup", oh look, there's tuning.
I just wish there was a way of making that bl**dy info box go away once and for all. I get sick of seeing it every time I switch to ITV/C4/Five.
It's not like I even need telling. I have to retune frequently anyway to get channels back, or find alternative copies of them I can hop between when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction.
You've been very very lax recently, and even a story like this, one a Friday, which is literally screaming for the treatment, fails to get Playmobil'ed
So someone who can't type an email address accurately is sending commercially sensitive data over an unencrypted communication medium...
Why on earth was there even a flat-file containing all this information laying about for this employee to accidentally send?!
I agree with A/C 02:45, Google should quarantine the email whilst waiting for confirmation, but I don't blame them for being careful, I'm sure there are 101 laws in the US about interfering with with the postal service which some lawyer or other would love to try to apply to email systems.
Okay, so currently the phones are stolen and then shipped out to somewhere like Africa, or they have their IMEI number changed so they can still log onto UK networks.
So now with the new scanner, they well have to add "Scratch the barcode" label off. Sure it looks suspicious, but we still have innocent until proven guilty in this country... Or are they going to sneak that one out through the backdoor and give it a quick bullet between the ears at the same time?
I'm sure it won't be long before the naughty people can start producing convincing looking replacement labels.
On FB too...
Friendface has been taken over by gangsters and oddly enough farms recently.
I guess they need a source for the horses heads.
Saw this on the TV news this morning, I thought it was quite cunning.
What I did think was pretty strange was the BBC insisting on showing a map of the UK and highlighting counties where it had been reported.
Ummm... Does anyone want to point out that telephone cons aren't exactly geographic! Come to think of it, the same goes for the Police, why are West Midlands investigating and not national?
Quick guys, West Midlands Police are investigating, we're moving to Scotland, stop dialling 0121 use 0131...
Glad you made the comparison to the mp3 fines...
$14,500 must be such a huge sum to a company involved with oil exploration.
Puts fingers in ears...
CSI can't be wrong, I can't hear you lalalalalalalaaaaa
There are some ideas that deserve to be patented and then licensed at such horrendous rates that nobody will ever implement them...
This is one such idea.
I never thought I'd say this, but US patent system, please do us proud and grant this one (well you grant pretty much anything else!).
What kind of drugs are they feeding those designers?
I've seen firemen cutting corpses out of wreckage that look better than that!
Orange have always been terrible for updates too.
My original N95 would still be on V11 and crashing if I hadn't hacked the phone to be a generic Euro model. It is perfectly stable on V30 now. Even better, voip works over wifi now too.
Sometimes the problem isn't the carriers though. For some reason even unbranded uk n97s are currently stuck on v11 when world+dog has had v12 for a month. It's not even a feature adding update, it fixes well publicised bugs!
I can feel another hack to generic euro model coming up!
"Looking for operatives fluent in "English (British dialect)"
That's just called English, it's you that speak a dialect thank you!
They can even correctly pronounce the last letter of the alphabet in that large country just north of you.
To be honest we've been under the influence of American paranoia for years. We didn't need half the security and paranoia we have now when the IRA were blowing up bits of British territory for decades, and they had sources for real explosives like C4! The moment the yanks get a taste of it, the world goes mad!
Mr Jones was ahead of his time... They don't like it up 'em.
s'laters, I'm off for a 20floz britney in the rubber down the frog.
I'm amazed it's not already done...
Given how much ISPs over sell their bandwidth, I'm amazed they don't have anything which detects excessive SMTP traffic.
I know some ISPs have actually blocked outbound SMTP to anything except their provided mail servers, which is a good start.
Outside of point of sale consoles and hospitals where the ease of cleaning comes in, what's the point of *any* touch screen!
Honestly, since the iPhone everyone seems to have gone touch screen insane! Sure on a small device with no other pointing device input I can see it has a use, but on a PC with a mouse? I'll pick the mouse every time! Far more accurate, plus of course you're not sticking a huge great digit over exactly what you need to see to press!
"Oh but I can do multitouch image resize, look how cool I am!", okay, fine... Now crop it to exactly 200x200 pixels... I'll race you... I'm just going to make a cup of tea, don't wait for me, I'll catch up...
Until someone invents a transparent finger, to me touch screen will just be a way of selling more finger print removing window cleaner!
I was interested in the idea of the eeeKeyboard when I first heard about it, but now it's just going to price itself out of a useful bracket because it has a pointlessly small touch screen stuck on the side of it... Ditch the damn screen and I might come back.
@Matt 89 - My R52 thinkpad doesn't have one, and it still managed to get a designed for XP sticker... Curious... So no I don't use it, Ctrl-Esc is a perfectly usable alternative. Although it's slightly annoying when I want to do Windows-L to lock the desktop.
@Michael C - That's a VGA port. It has 15 pins in 3 rows. Serial has 9 pins in 2 rows. It also has HDMI... Is that enough external monitor support for you? As for folding... Hmmmm... Well I have a hacksaw?
@Henry Wertz 1
"or likely more since they are probably getting the flash below spot."
I should hope so... If they're pulling in that kind of volume and not getting a serious discount they shout shoot their procurements team!
It does always amaze/amuse/worry me...
People are involved in huge vehicle accidents, their entire family is wiped out, but they survive... Then they say something crazy like "God must have been saving me for a higher purpose"...
Errr, excuse me, he's just wiped out your spouse, child and parents.... So he's either trying to really ruin your life and plunge you into the pits of depression, or he was seriously trying to kill you and just didn't take the airbag into account!
I still remember when I heard Tony Blair prayed for guidance before deciding to be G Dubya's poodle and invade Iraq... Religion, the only time you can listen to voices in your head, not get given a nice white huggy jacket and still be left in control of a country!
64kbs Nothing heinous, to be sure, but noticeable
And that's compared to 128kbs?
Good grief man, clean your ears out, or go listen to some old vinyl of something. I won't inflict anything lower than 192kbs on my ears, and I prefer far higher.
As for streaming audio over your carriers data connection, well I hope US "Unlimited" data is more unlimited than the UK version!
Shouty shouty as you're obviously deaf!
The problem is the UK law says it's illegal to use a phone whilst driving, and driving is defined as operating a motor vehicle... So far so good, but operating a motor vehicle also includes when you are sitting stationary.
I never text whilst I'm moving, but I will freely admit to sending texts when I'm stationary in traffic... They're usually something like "Stuck on the f****** again M25 again, I'll be a bit late". I'll also check my texts when sitting at red lights. I'm stationary, the hand brake is on. Sometimes on the M25 the engine is OFF! Where is the danger in that?
It's certainly safer than some of the cars I see driving on the road with kids playing up in the back and the parent who should be driving are spending more time looking over their shoulder than at the road ahead!
Perfect example of why you shouldn't go with one of these wonderful discount packages of mobile, broadband et al from one company. If they have a big problem with their network you're going to be screwed.
I might have an Orange mobile, and my broadband might be from the masters of cr*p, Tiscali, but hedging my bets across them and I've not been without my TCP/IP packet fix for years.
I assume this is an automatic system, as a manually triggered one would have little advantage over the mobile phone that everyone already owns.
So where does this system set its threshold? I've had some serious accidents (serious as in lots of mangled metal), but when I've rung the cops all they wanted to know was that everyone was okay and that details were exchanged. They didn't even bother putting in an appearance.
So I can see the police being alerted to many many accidents they wouldn't normally bother with, and probably lots and lots of charges of undue care and attention being thrown at everyone for being silly enough to bump into each other. No such thing as an accident any more.
Actually, I can see every Sainsbury's and Tesco car park packed with automatically summoned emergency vehicles!
The more suspicious of you will already be thinking about this factory fitted GPS GSM system which is but a small data packet away from being a 24/7 vehicle tracker.
This is really not very bright... Even less so when the victims were described as a "couple"...
He really does have his animal magnetism overrated!
New advert tag line...
The new iPhone
You'll forget who actually owns it.
What about the tim tam challenge, that's an instant scolding risk if ever I saw one!
@sT0rNG b4R3 duRiD - We can get them in Pomeland too... Along with the Polish jaffa cakes which I hate to say, are even more smashing orangey than the originals! Assuming you opt for the orange flavour of course, they have a choice!
Well if all the paranoid hype is to be believed...
...surely for an accurate ethnic make-up every house in the UK should have some straggly bearded suicide bomber hiding in the corner?
Only in Scotland...
Ah, that would be because that's where all the Labour hierarchy will be going back to when they loose the next election!
"cylinder block, cylinder head and exhaust manifold all part of a single casting"...
I won't ask what those curious bolt like lumps are on the exhaust manifold attaching it to the cylinder head are then...
"Applying an update might be a chore"...
Not if you've set up wordpress properly it isn't.
You click the "update" link, and it does it all for you in a few minutes.
(You do take a backup before of course)
I thought it was bad enough that TFL (Transport for London) had systems levelled by Conficker earlier this year, but now approaching the 1 year anniversary of Microsoft's patch which prevented Conficker, local authorities have still not protected themselves against it.
Does anyone know of a vacancy in local authority IT admin, sounds like a cushy job, it's obvious they don't do f*ck all!
Given that you can buy a netbox for less than this, and then use the netbox as a thin client with a bit of linux, why would you want to buy one of these? Sure it's really small, but given the user will have a monitor of 17"+ on their desk, and several netbox manufacturer provide a mount to bolt the box onto the back of the monitor, I can't see where the benefit of the extra size reduction comes in.
As for no CPU... Of course it's got a processor! Silly sales spin. I can't see anyone implementing ethernet, USB and video without a processor or some sort!
Stranded in London...
Yes, it's the middle of nowhere, there's no US embassy you can go to for assistance, all you can do is use facebook (via some medium unknown) to beg for help.
As the saying goes, "A fool and his money are easily parted"
If they had any sense, the government would not want to piss off 7 million people.
I'm sure that's more than the number who voted for them last time, so it would be a very good idea to make friends with them, and not enemies!
If the American carriers had sorted out their interconnects like Europe did way back in the 90s, you too would have found what a useful technology the SMS system is, but because the US networks were so unreliable at SMS exchange, everyone resorted to email to send each other messages.
SMS and MMS are GSM standards, not Nokia/Ericsson or anyone else's.
A cross network, cross manufacturer, cross country message push system. If you have a mobile number, you can send them a message (with our without a picture). Most phone contracts include a few hundred of these a month, if not unlimited. So there is no cost.
This cultural difference is one of the reasons the iPhone took so much stick when it first arrived over here. Apple didn't even bother to look at how things were in Europe and only implemented the very basics (any less and they probably wouldn't be able to claim it was a GSM handset!). So when their new wonder phone arrived, couldn't do groups messages, or send picture messages, we all laughed.
They eventually fixed this, and now these features are revealing the cracks in the underlying US cell system.
Now wouldn't you like a system where you can send a message to any of your contacts without having to remember what kind of phone they have, or that Jim's iPhone has had to go back because it needs a new battery and he's using a 10 year old mobile he borrowed? A system that pushes a message onto the phone of anyone, anywhere on the planet (except the USA for previously stated reasons)? Oh, and it does handset delivery confirmation too.
Now tell me how this is backwards?
As for multitasking, are you trying to claim that as the iPhone doesn't do this, multitasking is bad? Good grief man, extract your head, Mr Jobs would like to sit down, and I think you could do with some fresh air.
Ahhh how sweet....
Dear America, welcome to the 21st century!
So they haven't patented the "bork bork" language version?
Agreed. The Germans are obviously not fully up to speed on the English girls who now drink pints during their binges, and therefore flow in quantities formerly only achieved by men.
I always thought it was their prices that made shopping an "uncrowded, casual experience"
These surveys only reflect the male and female habits of people who fill out surveys.
I don't know about the rest of you, but if the list of questions has a scroll bar on the side, or worse a "Next" button on the bottom, it's going to get skipped.
I'm a busy man, I have 126 individual passwords to change.
What about the other useful performance information... Rate of fire...
Come to think of it, how long did they need to keep the beam trained on this dangerous unoccupied stationary vehicle. I guess we're all assuming the Sci-fi kind of pow-booom hit, but that's a bit of an assumption. For all we know it was slowly cooked over several seconds like beans in a microwave, not something which would be easy with a moving vehicle, especially when the driver notices things are getting warm and makes evasive moves.
Oh well... I guess in future all military movement will be carried out under cover of fog, or maybe all desert vehicles will just have a big dust blowing fan fitted to the top, or maybe just a mirror.
"Cloud" cuckoo land
As has been recently demonstrated by hordes of lost iPhone owners, who suddenly found their O2 provided data connection was no longer feeding them their google maps, anyone who puts their complete trust in systems which they have no control over, and no contact point to shout at, really does deserve what they get.
Always have a backup, take a paper map, and only use gmail as a front end to a real mail server which you can still pop/smtp with :-)
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