2267 posts • joined Tuesday 17th April 2007 15:29 GMT
No shock they became popular for that money, it really is a no brainer. Who cares if it is dead end, likely to receive zero support etc. As long as the hardware works as supplied you've got a great slab for browsing, emailing etc. I would have bought one, but they were all sold out before I saw the story.
At £400, no tablet is going to tempt me, no matter how good it is, for a media consuming device that's just too much cash. I'll stick to using my phone and just hold the small screen closer to my eyes instead.
The likes of Kogan have shown you can put a tablet together for that kind of money, now if only that was combined with a bit more quality control... Maybe Google-rola might have a plan to knock IOS off the tablet top spot...?
A corporate "We don't know" reply is certainly preferable to the Chinese whispers I experienced with Orange UK earlier this year.
I took to ringing up 5 time in a row to ask the same question "When or are you going to get handset XYZ?", just so I could at least pick the majority answer as guidance.
It was still bollocks though!
Is this the Daily Mail? Don't believe the hype.
Tut tut El reg, after reading your story I thought there was a vunerbility in RDP... Lucky I went and checked with the source.
All this worm does is scan for RDP servers on the default port, and then try a small set of easy passwords on the admin account.
Indeed... Only thing I like about the ipad is the aspect ratio. Widescreen if for playing movies, not work!
Still, nice looking tablet, classic Thinkpad Business looks.
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How many did they actually have? It does strike me rather odd that all the companies that discounted them have sold them all within such a short space of time... Apart from us nerds on here (and similar sites), who knew, and who would want one?
Bet they find a few more in the next couple of days, but they'll cost more.
Either that or their websites have a built in "weird sales pattern detected, shutdown" protection to cover them if somebody accidentally enters and incorrect price.
Yes, yes, I know, I have a suspicious mind!
Damn, beat me to it!
That page is a bit out of date now. The latest is the Vortex86mx+ which integrates the RAM and video memory, so you don't need to provide both externally, just RAM, and then the onboard VGA interface can "borrow" some of it.
Got the slightly older 86mx here, runs at a smidge under 1Ghz, onboard sound, vga, 2 serials, ethernet, USBs etc etc. The box I have also has an SD card slot. Power consumption? Well I can run it off a USB port, so total system consumption is under 2.5watts. Obviously can't do this if I start handing hard drives off the USB ports though.
Quite happily running Linux, complete with Gnome desktop with an SD friendly zero swap file.
Denisity is density...
You think the 200g bar is the fat bastard special?
So who eats the 1kg bar? Apart from me of course?
Could run a laptop for a week on one of those, just long enough for my tummy to stop feeling bad!
I fear this won't work in the UK since the demise of analogue TV. All the digiboxes produces the subtitles display internally and overlay it on to the video signal before it is sent to the TV. The TV has in fact become just a dumb monitor with a set of speakers.
Greetings fellow Z'er.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for the Nokiasoft. The Nokias of old managed their impressive battery life by having very low power CPUs (we're talking number crunching power, not just battery sucking power here). They could do this because they were running a very efficient OS, Symbian.
Symbian was built from the ground up in the days when mobile devices just didn't have huge powerful CPUs. Android, WinMo and IOS aren't. They're all stripped down version of big OS's.
In the world of mobile devices there are always compromises. With Symbian the compromises were almost exclusively made in favour of low power consumption, because the power just wasn't there at the time to be used! The newer OS's had the CPU power, and have used it (programmers always use everything available to them, plus a bit more). Occasionally they have actually given us something useful too.. Which we got used to, and liked.
I doubt we're going to see 3 days phones for a while, not until the "dual core" willy waving is finished and everyone calms down to let the battery technology catch up!
You can actually get quite a few days out of a DZ, I discovered this (thanks to the excessive EU data roaming charges) when I went abroad... Data off, wifi off, bluetooth off, and remember to switch into flight mode if you go into an area of no coverage (stops the radio cranking up to full power and screaming the cell equivalent of "HELLO?" all the time!). It also helps that you tend to keep phone calls short due to the roaming charges too. Best I saw was from fully charged at 6am to 92% at 9pm!
So if you just use your smartphone as a phone, everything is good... Now I just want to use the "smart" part please!
@Using it more...
Indeed... I've just posted a reply making exactly that point further up the comments!
I did actually email and browse on my N95, but only if I didn't have any choice. It did make me an Opera mini convert though.
These days I'll pick up the smartphone and check emails/reply to them, browse for stuff, even when the laptop is on standby only a few feet away.
I can't comment on iphone longevity (beyond that they die pretty well when dropped), but my Android handset will last days if I just don't use the "smart" part!
It would just be nice if the battery technology would catch up with all the eye candy we've become used to.
I wouldn't just blame the economy...
All those who bought last year's uber-phone, and are still locked into a contract, aren't really going to be scratching at the doors this year for a new phone (crazed fanbois of all flavours excluded of course).
Why? Well if you have last year's iPhone4 or HTC DesireHD etc, what can't you do that this year's phone could? Ummmm... Yes, now you see the problem. Common sense has killed the sales (hence I excluded the fanbois).
There just isn't a killer feature for the new phones. So what if it can scan RFID tags, you've got to find one to scan first of all! So that's not going to do it. The webbrowser from last year still works fine, it loads up in a second, so maybe I could save 0.5seconds by spending £400 this year, then again, maybe I'll just blink instead.
I'm still happy with my Desire Z, which just sneaks into the "last year's phone" bracket. I feel no need to buy a sensation, although I have played with one, it's a nice phone, and all very pretty, but there is no "must have" extra.
In fact, barring a sudden, unexpected invention of something even Apple hasn't thought to patent, I can't see why I would need anything more than what I currently have in my pocket.
There is one big exception, it's the huge elephant in the room. The one killer feature which would make me buy a new phone... 3 days of real use from one charge... That would do it! A feat which my old Nokia N95 could do, even my N97 could do it, although that wasn't really real use, as it spent half the time crashing and rebooting!
Looks like the range of the Jobsien reality distortion field is larger than we initially thought!
It's not just software! I'm currently looking to upgrade my trusty Quad Core2 2.4Ghz box of tricks, and somewhere during the past couple of years the whole processor naming scheme has gone mad too! I have long since given up on AMD as their naming scheme stopped making sense before I even built the Quad core box. Now it looks like whilst I wasn't looking, Intel have gone mad too! (Actually, they did start to go mad when I built it, the CPU is officially called a Q6600).
What's the deal with all these i(2n+1) processors! It's enough to make me give up and stick to old faithful and just swap the hard drive for an SDD... Hmmm, there's an idea.
Was she not skinny enough already? Every time I see a picture of her I think she needs to be stuffed with a few more pheasants.
So now we have courts making rulings that even they don't know if they have the authority to do!
Well it's good to know they check such things out before making huge judgements which could have multi-million Euro impacts... Oh hang on, they didn't did they.
Jeeez... Now I'm not sure what's worse, lawyers or judges.
By your own admission you say the iphone5 has already received enough hype already, so why are you writing this article? We all know Apple use their annual apple-fest to launch new products.
Now go away and shut up until you have something new to add, like any kind of spec for example!
If not, you may as well just come out and do a day by down countdown, which could also lack anything resembling news.
In fact the sceptic in me can't help but think it did exactly the opposite, feeding the ithing media feed frenzy... They couldn't have got more column inches in the run up to the launch if they'd tried.
Said sceptic is also wondering what stunt they'll do for the next one? Start watching those bar stools people!
Saw the misspelled petition... I don't think taking money away from those that have already shown they are willing to steal things they want, is really the best idea.
I'm more in favour of reintroducing stocks and pillories. You show disrespect for your local community, then let them show the feeling is mutual.
Don't immobilise the phones...
These morons are obviously a few sandwiches short of a picnic, so just let them charge the phones and use them... Then you'll know exactly where they, and their moronic friends, are each night.
Blatant Apple rip off... No removable storage, weird drivers required to interface to PC...
Please let them change the production recipe.... Anything has to be better than the muck they pass off as chocolate these days.
"One of the guys had been here more than 30 years and recognized it, and said, 'That's one of the tanks"...
So are you saying that more recently employed engineers couldn't recognise bits of a space craft design which was operational until the other week?
re: Re: As a father, I totally support him.
Given the threats made to his daughter, I doubt it would be in the public interest for the CPS to drag him before the beak, although they've done dafter things in the past.
All he'd have to do is opt for crown court trial and I don't think there is a jury in the land who wouldn't say he was justified in saying what he did.
Would the humourless down-voter please stand up and make himself known... Or do you have something against Spry Mosaic?
I know I'm going to sound really old...
...but the volume some of today's youth have their personal stereos (told you I was going to sound really old) set to is unbelievable.
Often it is so loud that I can identify the track from several seats along in a moving train. If they're near me, and I recognise the tune, I will start silently mouthing the words. This has even succeeded in getting the volume turned down a few times.
There was a girl the other day who couldn't have been out of her teens who was sitting next to me on the train. The volume sounded perfect if the ear buds had been in my ears, but they weren't, they were in hers! She's going to be deaf as a post before she's 30, if she's not already.
Although the annoyance of loud headphones is nothing compared to those who sit on a train listening to music on their phone via the speaker! With all the frequencies from 500Hz to 3Khz rendered perfectly, and the others lost to the world! Is their hearing that bad that they can't hear how terrible music from an 8mm speaker sounds?
And it's always complete crap too!
Next time put aLogCat onto your phone and capture that OTA URL! There were people out there who would have killed for that last week - The G2 owners still would, but our OTA file is no good for them.
I don't know about Nokia, their support went right out of the window a few years ago. The N97 I dumped still had 12 months of contract left when Nokia abandoned it and any support (this was before Elop). Their firmware updates (when they happen) were rolled out on a country by country basis, with some unknown and unnamed UK entity adding weeks, if not months, to the release for UK CV handsets (the closest we got to generic, still not carrier supplied). That's why I took to changing my handsets to Euro1 zone instead.
Talk of such things was forbidden in the Nokia forums, so you could never help anyone out properly. Even a forum campaign for UK equality which ran on for dozens of pages resulted in sod all.
So after over 10 years of loyal Nokia support I wouldn't touch them again. I jumped ship before Elop sold them up the river to M$, so that event just made me laugh and mutter things like "You deserve each other".
Pity, they did use to make nice phones, and you could rely on them, but that ended the moment they discovered OTA firmware updates. Who needs to ensure a phone is reliable before it is sold when you can update the firmware in 6 months time... broke? oh we'll fix it... oh we forgot... don't worry, we'll get it right in the next one...
You must live right under a cell tower so the phone's radio is running on minimal power (they ramp up their output as the mast gets further away) plus not having to deal with 3G is always a bonus on the power front.
It's always a shock when you turn off the 3G data, wifi and all the other bells and whistles when you roam outside of the country (avoiding horrendous roaming charges) and see what happens to the battery life. I went for a day in Paris earlier in the year (from the UK). Turned the radio off in the tunnel (see previous comment about output power to reach distant cell), turned it back on once in France and had a lovely day. On the way back 12 hours later I check the battery level. 93%!
If only those bells and whistles weren't so thirsty.
re: @Steve Evans Re Re "Can't win". To be fair what HTC said was that.........
Indeed, many delays are caused by the carriers putting their own crap into firmware. Seen this many times with Nokias in the past, which is why the first thing I ever did with them was change them to vanilla Euro models and flash stock firmware onto them.
My DZ is just like yours, unbranded, and not tied to a network. That's not the work of a gold card, that's the result of buying it outright because I was still stuck in my N97 contract at the time.
A couple of weeks ago there were people talking about Vodafone pushing gingerbread out in the UK, yet my unbranded had nothing. It's all just a mess.
The HTC forums were full of brits on Sunday night complaining about it being the end of July, and they still hadn't received it. Most of them seemed to get it on 1st August, including myself.
Unfortunately all the talk has now been overtaken by the original Desire owner bitching about not having a full GB update, and things not working.
Oh well, got it now, better 6 months late than never. Better off than the G2 owners who are still running about like headless chickens wondering where their update is.
re: These are good days
Agreed. Although my experience with the N97 (and the treatment of customers in the forum) had pretty much got them onto my ignore list a few months earlier. The announcement of bending over and taking it from Redmond just confirmed what those who had seen the previous lack of support were already starting to suspect.
I've now got an HTC Desire Z, and although HTC don't seem to be much good at communicating with customers, they have finally managed to get the Gingerbread update out of the door.
I did pick u and play with a Nokia (something, didn't pay much attention) in a 3 store the other day and it just felt old and sluggish. Pity, Symbian is a good OS, my old N95 was a very reliable phone and the battery life was great. Unfortunately Nokia just aren't worthy of being left in charge of an OS. Their front end patchwork on the N97 was just dire. It just felt like it was developed by 12 different teams, who never communicated! Amazing given the reputation Nokia have for liking meetings!
Oh well, onwards and upwards as they say. I'm very happy with Android now. Good luck to Nokia with their mission to be unique running WM7, along with all the other unique WM7 platforms that are already out there...
Maemo, such promise, what a sad sad end.
re: Are those icons????
I don't know about all your points, but Symbian phones have had copy and paste since before Apple started making their mini-fondle slabs, and maybe before they even started making their fondle-walkmans.
Not that that would stop the US patent office from granting such a patent to Apple of course!
re: so you call this a "decent" spec? I guess you're cutting poor Nokia extra slack..
"That is last year's spec..."
That didn't stop the iPhone1 when it came out did it. The spec/feature sheet was pathetic. It just had a nice user interface, and the rest as they say is history.
re: can't win
Very true, but they could always just give up on the US, leave them to their introverted ways and concentrate on the rest of the world. That worked perfectly well for Nokia for many many years... In fact it only went pear shaped when they tried to get into the US market!
I just wish they'd spend a bit more time communicating with customers, the recent end of June, end of July Gingerbread update for the Desire Z hasn't won them any points in the books of many people. FYI it arrived on 1st August.
Don't switch, add!
I use Firefox, Chrome and Opera, so by my calculations my IQ is about 350!
Mines the one with the Spry Mosaic install floppy in the pocket.
What a bunch of sheeple... They don't even know the spec (or price), but they *must* have one.
I've got a turd I can emboss an Apple logo onto if any of them are interested... Best I get eating as I suspect demand could be high.
Re: Does anyone seriously think...
Actually there is a huge different between bin diving and phone "hacking".
When you discard something, in the eyes of the law you are saying you no longer want it. It is then perfectly legal for someone else to pick it up and keep it. This is true in the US and UK.
Phone hacking falls more into the unauthorised access to a computer system or illegal wiretap classification. i.e. far more serious.
re: Try setting the clock on those to 03:14:08 19/01/2038
Oh NOs, my phone is only going to work correctly for another 26 years!
BTW, that's what is know as the UNIX millennium bug. Feel free to post a smug comment in 2038 on a website of your choosing... Assuming you can find a website still working!
Whenever I fly, I secure the bag with a cable tie. That way security can look inside if they want, but a light fingered grunt will probably go for something easier.
When it gets to baggage collection time, it's obvious if anyone has been in my bag or not, and I can check the contents.
So far that technique has proved safe from Stansted and/or Spanish handlers (who have twice helped themselves to odds and sods - pair of shorts and a Swiss army knife - I know, weird eh!).
All my expensive stuff always goes hand luggage anyway, have you not seen how they throw the hold luggage about?!! What the iPad owner was thinking when he put his animated tea-tray into hold luggage is beyond me!
Surely being sylph-like would be an advantage when hiding a fondle-slab in your trousers, just poke it down the front and leave your T-shirt untucked. In fact being chunky would make it harder as fondle-slabs are flat, and chunky tummies are curved.
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