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Re: Poor performance
Yeah, I liked Federighi in the Mac OS part. I don't have an I-thingy just a Mac so the IOS stuff is less interesting anyway.
This was the first time I've seen Cook on stage and man was he poor. Okay, the numbers don't lie and Apple is still creaming the money, but the performance was nothing like Jobs. Relying on quote from a ZD hack to attack Android would have been below Jobs, even if the very idea of Android made his blood boil.
Fragmentation? How about properly (the I-Pad Mini is a hack) supporting multiple form factors Apple? Android is running on watches, phone, tablets, notebooks and TVs.
Update - tell us about the 10 % or so who can't update to the latest version or even the version before that because Apple invalidated the hardware. Then again, many of those users may, like the millions of Android users with older versions, be perfectly happy with their hardware.
I switched off after about 5 minutes. Did it get any better?
I think they'd be stupid not to open source it (the core at least) and get academics paid by someone else to kick the tyres. Would surprise me greatly if they don't do it.
I don't think there was ever a real chance for that to happen and the fact that the presentation makes no reference to Ruby says a lot.
Much as I like Python as a language I also have to admit that it isn't always the best choice. Google still makes extensive use of it internally but developed Go for the heavy lifting systems work. But having a simpler syntax for app development (assumes the runtime can handles most of the necessary magic) might work quite nicely.
Re: complexity and obsequiousness
WTH is wrong with brackets?
The standard answer is that the brackets are there for the compiler not the programmer. People tend to prefer other methods for structuring blocks, but if you like them then good luck to you.
Re: Just what the world needs
Go is finding fans all over the place, though mainly in systems, because of its concurrency support. C# is, er, a rehash of Java for the MS runtime.
Re: Question is...
I'm with you in the heterogenous hardware environment: most of this release produces "meh" at most.
But I don't mind yearly updates for the OS as long as these aren't used to arbitrarily exclude older hardware or APIgasms don't break lots of software. Version updates are one of the best ways of making sure everyone installs the security patches.
We'll probably need to wait to find out more about what's going on under the hood (support for MacOS on ARM or similar) but some of the stuff looked to me like intelligent use of the underlying OpenDoc/Taligent stuff in the OS that has been so underused in MacOS.
Also, Federighi is quite a good presenter / salesman. That might become increasingly important if Cook's performance on stage doesn't improve.
See what the summer brings. I won't be installing this on release day: will wait at least until MacPorts has binaries for most of my packages.
You mean your headset isn't multipoint capable?
Re: Oh bollocks
I can understand the reason to flatten on mobile OS's - the requirement to save battery life seemingly overriding style
I'm not sure why you think the IOS 7 aesthetics does anything to improve battery life because it doesn't. It was a necessary move away from skeuomorphism + Sir Jony's need to mark his territory. If you hold a new I-Phone up to your nose you can still smell the piss! ;-)
Re: I'm having a Windows XP moment here..
10.6 (Snow Leopard) was a bit of a brown bag to be honest with the move to x86_64 pretty hamfisted. Some of the bugs have still not been properly ironed out: my system will pause for a couple of seconds every time Time Machine fires up the external (Firewire) drive. It never did that in Leopard. Lots of drivers were broken and some got broken in the series. Can't remember exactly when but Bluetooth audio got totally fucked and the only solution was to upgrade.
While I understand the basic rationale behind the release cycle (cleaning up the toolchain) and simplifying patch levels, a key part of it is creating obsolescence by somewhat randomly declaring certain hardware no longer supported. So my MacMini (x86_64 capable) can't be updated because Apple and or nVidia won't update the drivers. I assume another generation of hardware will get the chop with 10.10 so that owners can go out and buy some new kit. If they're really lucky they'll have to get new peripherals as well: quite a few manufacturers don't support Mavericks. Fortunately, this is one of things that Windows VMs are good for, so I can still use my Canon scanner the odd times I need to.
The notification centre is okay with most things disabled. Pity you can't disable the fecking Finder messages!
Re: You Do Get Something for Your $100
You already get that with tablets. The OS does make it pretty easy to target other form factors.
A bigger challenge is the support of the OS for keyboard and mouse. I'd to get a look at one of these machines re. ergonomics and weight.
Re: @Charlie Clark (was:Duh!)
Controlling STDs is an entirely different kettle of worms.
Not going to dispute that. My main point was about possible motivation for behaviour.
Then again, being rich is generally associated with better medical care and, therefore, lower perceived risks associated with personal choice. I think this has been shown across a range of activities from substance abuse to driving.
Birth control is key. Sleeping around without becoming unwantedly pregnant and, even the event, with the resources to "deal with it", depends upon informed access to methods of birth control. Remove that and it becomes a whole different, er, ball game.
Re: It is puzzling!
Tells you a lot about the PR value of joining such an industry group. And that tells you a lot about the real aims of such a group.
and it took a major vulnerability…
That attitude in a nutshell is a part of the problem with much of the commercial approach: we won't admit it's broken till it's breached.
The OpenBSD project was born out of an explicit need to make software as secure as possible. This doesn't guarantee security, but by making it an explicit priority they have certainly helped improve the chances of something being secure.
Other than politics I see little reason for this move by the "Linux Foundation". Working with LibreSSL with the perspective of using it in future instead of OpenSSL would be proper infrastructure development. Unless there are licensing or technical issues that I'm not aware of.
Re: Some things over-exaggerated.
And who pays if it's the Google car's fault? Google? Or the passenger for not pressing stop?
That's a big question isn't it? Nobody is going to be allowed to use of these on the road without the insurance question being resolved. But in the event of these cars being run as fleets (great opportunity for better yield) I can see Google quite happily negotiating with the insurance companies. It already has vast amounts of telemetry from the existing trials and one recorded accident, where the human took control and was responsible.
Assuming they can get the telemetry then I would imagine insurance companies will happily offer terms. It's becoming increasingly common to provide telemetry for car insurance. In fact, it's now standard with rental cars.
No, I don't think either insurance or traffic in <insert-hellish-place-to-drive-here> are going to the real problem. It will be working out quite how much redundant kit is required in order to be able to still function reasonably. There is already some information on this for ships, planes, space vehicles, etc. But very few of those are really involved in such dynamic environments as traffic, especially where other people aren't necessarily obeying the rules.
Re: Where's the content?
Maxdome maybe German only. Watchever is pretty international. Both were set up by companies that have been trading in film rights so they tend to be heavy on films but deals for series are becoming more and more common.
Re: Where's the content?
Maxdome, Watchever, Netflix, etc. not available where you live?
Agreed. But then again it's what the single market is for.
I like it
When we switch to driverless cars we will need to give up the illusion of control that an accelerator or brake appear to give us. As we will become accustomed not to trying to control the car then we will quickly lose our already limited ability to act sensibly in an emergency. I drive infrequently and will freely admit that partly as a result I'm not a very good driver: town traffic quickly pushes me to my cognitive limits.
Yes, there are still lots of problems to iron out but I suspect the lack of manual controls aren't one of them. How robust is the software? Can it be manipulated easily? How much redundancy is built in so that the car still works if some sensors fail or are impeded?
Re: What happens when
If you're stuck in a queue then you're stuck.
Re: ZOMG! I'm not on $TrendySocialMediaSiteOfTheNanosecond!
I'm with you in spirit - you can't beat text/plain for general communication. Encrypt or use another channel when required. The trackers and beacons are a cancer on the internet and their use somewhat shortsighted. I used to be far more tolerant of them than I am now: as a result virtually all are blocked by default.
But when it comes to statistics - I'm not interested per se in where you've been and what browser you personally have - but there is value in the aggregate data.
Re: I stopped seeing SPDY as an alternative...
Latency on wireless depends a lot on what kind of wireless. 3G and below is high latency, LTE, which is what's in Google's backyard, isn't that bad.
SPDY deserves some credit for persistency, better handling of multiple requests and encryption. A working implementation is always better than the best pipe dream. Without SPDY we'd probably still have little prospect of getting off HTTP 1.1
However, the criticisms should be taken seriously. Google normally plays pretty nicely in such discussions - better than most "industry leaders" in any case. Maybe they'll take the criticism onboard and try and fix SPDY if the WG does decide to drop it.
Re: no recent copyright outrages
Plus, racism and general nowtrage and are more accessible to the average voter.
But there’s no arguing with the fact that Microsoft, more than any other mobile device vendor, is at least familiar with the needs of enterprise IT
I reckon BlackBerry is at least as familiar with corporate customers.
For any large corporate deployment pretty much any manufacturer will provide custom ROMs as required (plain Android, Cyanogen, corporate app-store, etc.). For smaller orders fulfilment will be key as I believe Don Jefe pointed out recently.
Fuck me, funding for a real product!
No-one wants to get companies upgrading to newer versions of Windows than Microsoft. They would far rather people were using IE9+ on Windows 7+ than legacy old stuff which they are contractually obliged to support
Most corporates are on Windows 7 but they still have to use IE 8 because of its "legacy" support. But Microsoft is happy because it usually means Office 2010 and relevant server kit.
Re: To be fair...
IE 8 still makes up a around 30 % of corporate desktops. Quite often because legacy "browser apps" that were designed to work in IE 6. Probably because of ActiveX
One of my customers is a large company and IE 8 is still the standard IE version because of the legacy support for internal browser-based apps written for IE 6 back in the day. Rewrites are either prohibitively expensive or not even possible so I think Browsium is the only solution.
Makes you wonder why companies stick with Microsoft but there are still too few alternatives for desktop machines. As long as Microsoft can continue to collect licences for this kind of shoddy product management then they're unlikely to change their practices.
Re: Just checked. Phew
You are Jeremy Clarkson and I claim my five pounds...
Also: go straight to jail, do not pass go and do not collect any endorsements!
Re: So close...
The processor didn't need taking up to an i7.
I'm inclined to agree with you on this. It's for the same reason that Apple doesn't put i7's in their Air: there's very little call for that kind of oomph on the go and the cost in terms of battery and heat isn't worth it.
Along with many I quite like most of the specs but I'd rather have them in a notebook without a touch screen at half the price. For tabletty things I'll stick with my slightly more expensive than cheap as chips tablet that weighs less than 500g.
Still, good luck Microsoft. Maybe targeting the professionals will work better than the mass market. Competition is good™.
I wouldn't worry about it. 4 downvotes seems par for the course on this topic if you're even slightly critical. Surface has its fanbois, too.
Re: Uh oh
Actually, it’s gotten much, much better. From 10.0 - 10.4, I would never update until I had read the litany of issues over at Macintouch. I remember issues like losing Wifi, or even losing RAM from cheap suppliers—all from OS updates.
I think 10.5 was my first version and it was pretty solid. 10.6.0 (the move to x86_64) was a "brown bag" release and I generally steer clear of the x.0 releases. The OS is in general better now that the number of toolkits has been reduced but there's still room for improvement: adopting a "ports" like approach for the Posix stuff would be a big plus.
That Apple isn't invincible has nothing to do with Microsoft's chances of taking them on.
X-Box aside, Microsoft has yet to show success in a market outside its core Windows+ area. And with Windows Phone it's still not clear whether it is going to go for exclusivity or continue the tried and tested OEM + software route to domination. Until that decision has been taken and communicated it's not possible to say much. In the meantime both IOS and Android are becoming more accepted in the enterprise: taking MS on where it is strongest and beating it; having already whipped it in the consumer space. The Windows 8 own goal isn't going to help much there, either.
If MS decides to become a services company then it can hope to be a winner, whatever OS is running. MS services on devices could be very attractive and it could ironically call upon competition authorities to enforce market access.
Some good points, but…
The retrospective justification of Apple's success based on theory X has the bias of hindsight. Extrapolating it for the future is, therefore, somewhat unwise.
Regarding Beats - I think it's best to see whether there will be a deal and if so, exactly what the terms are. I'm not really convinced by either the "move into wearables" or the "move into streaming" arguments. But such a purchase hardly fits into Apple's purchasing history: they tend to buy smaller companies with good IP portfolios. Or partner. Do we have any figures from the ITunes streaming service to indicate whether it's a Ping-type flop or not?
Re: wireless vs wired and analog vs digital headphones
The obvious problem with wireless headphones is that they must be charged.
An obvious advantage is that the wires don't get tangled and you can keep the phone somewhere convenient/secure. I've been using Bluetooth headsets for this reason for years and only use a cable when I want to use the FM radio.
Most of the headsets have pretty good battery life. My Sennheiser MM 200 was the best but the buttons stopped working and they discontinued it. Currently got a Jabra which is okay if susceptible to interference. So, Apple pushing wireless headsets is conceivable but not really worth shelling out a couple of billion for.
Every now and then I read about specialist programs for writers (novelists) which have no WYSIWYG whatsoever but provide other tools for writers than include minimising distractions. If Wordstar works for George then good luck to him.
What's the conclusion of this research? Are they going to start blocking anything without STARTTLS?
Certificate mismatch isn't really a problem, just an example of the problems in the certificate infrastructure. I've been using TLS for all my e-mail for over ten years with my domains but not my mail servers.
Re: Why Windows in the first place?
Giving it to charities is like giving it to schools: it encourages dependency. And as you yourself admit, you've only just started to explore the alternatives, why should other businesses be any different?
Google is allowed to display anything it wants
Nope, they are numerous cases where that is already not the case. We all know about China.
I could be wrong on this but I think an example are pro-Nazi listings in France which are banned for all media.
A practical example
On a related note Google has already acted.
The wife of the former president of Germany, Bettina Wulff, has been alleged to have worked as a prostitute in the past. As far as I know the allegations have never been proven correct and in fact have been proven in correct. However, the interest in the subject was so great that Google promoted some of the terms to "search as you type". It was argued that this continued to spread unproven and possibly defaming allegations without qualification. Just imagine something similar with your own name and something like "child sex offender".
Re: Actually I'm quite impressed
Indeed. Apparently, it is becoming not unusual in America for employers to demand access to potential employees online accounts. Asserting the right to privacy certainly puts an end to anything like that in Europe.
The Bitcoin economy is tiny. Were Scotland to adopt it, in some bizarre fantasy world, Scotland would take control of it, and marginalise all other users. Were Scotland to create the ScotCoin, then it wouldn't be valued as some bitcoin wannabe, it would be treated as a national currency and traded as such.
I doubt that very much. Having your own currency includes having the right to print more of it and then play the game of whether you can convince people to accept debts denominated in it. The great attraction of the digital currencies for nerds is that money printing is essentially impossible. This makes it very unattractive for any central bank.
Re: Debate worthy of a playground
I seem to remember that the Tories used to depend upon the rural Scottish seats (smaller number of constituents) for a majority up to an including Maggie's first government which is why pricks like Rifkind and Younger got into cabinet.
If Scotland does vote for independence then it's reasonable to expect newly emergent tensions within England and Wales to be reflected in different voting patterns. This is already happening with the North of England becoming more solidly Labour while the South becomes more solidly Tory as regional allegiance expressed through party preference replaces the outdated class warfare model.
Re: Taking a leaf out of the Thatcher playbook CeX?
north of Watford
There, fixed it for you.
Sure, the BOM is, of course, relevant when working out whether to go with the production of something but this is just another case of clickbait trying to provoke nowtrage that Google is going for even bigger margins than Apple, ignoring that it already has these in many parts of its business due to lower capex. It also completely ignores how expensive glasses can be, especially if you want to be fashionable.
When it comes to fantastic profit margins it's still hard to beat coffee with a BOM of about € 0.10.
Re: Makes a lot of sense
Most of the PHP-based CMS (you have to use the term very loosely to include Joomla with them) have a very long list of CVEs. Sure, you can build secure sites with them but you're the one who'll be doing the security. Furthermore, for government sites there's something to be said for security through diversity: crack one site and you've cracked them all and they might have data you don't want leaking.
Drupal is in vogue especially since whitehouse,gov went on it but that doesn't make it good. And it isn't cheap once the SIs get involved. So, while the licensing will be cheap, what about the customisations? And what is the performance when you have 50 or so editors working on the same site (not unusual for government departments)?
Re: I'm not Eadon
At least Apple notifies you of the update whether you're logged in or not.
Re: Windows 8.1 - the secret update
The 8.1 update in the app store* is designed to get you to use the app store.
That has class action lawsuit written all over it. Time for the popcorn.
Re: Quite tempting - but I won't be buying one.
With you regarding this machine. Never had any Archos kit but it's good to see them trying stuff out. Will be interesting to see if the OEM actually making the things has other models in store. There are PC makers out there desperate to sell to a market that has voted against Windows 8.
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