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Re: Does it really cost that much to bear foreign data?
It would cost a whole lot more if it wasn't capped - just go anywhere outside the EEA to see what the operators think they have a right to charge.
Re: How about roaming within the UK?
It'll happen automatically - just get a SIM from another country and roam in your own. LBO is just unbundling by another name.
Yes, operators are allowed to make additional offers but must provide at least the capped service. Note, some operators dream up packages and sign you up to them automatically, ie. you have to actively say "no thanks, I'll just stick with the EU package". Travelling anywhere, but especially outside the EU, for more than a couple of days it's almost always worth buying a local SIM card or two.
LBO will be great
It will allow proper wholesale markets. In essence it's not much difference to the international calling cards or SIMs that are already available. It just add an incentive to offer travellers better services. Sure, the comfort of being able share the profit with the traveller's home network is out the window (this was the whole reason for the caps) but that just means that local operators get to keep all of the profit themselves. This will encourage specialisation (ie. providers of backhaul), customisation and innovation (calls will go all VoIP pretty quickly). Get two SIMs from different countries and avoid forever being tied to stupid plans.
Pity Bill seems to think that this stimulus for competition is somehow bureaucratic. Just shows you how cosy the old telco world was.
Re: Community benefits
Except the water there was contaminated before the fracking started.
Hi Thicko, meet fact:
The relationship cannot be put down to gasmen's penchant for plonking their drills in spots where natural gas is most abundant in the first place. In the absence of drilling the gas, being trapped in the shale beds 1,500-2,500 metres beneath the countryside, would stay put; concentrations nearer to the surface would remain unaffected.
Re: Down the tubes we go (again)
Now where's my "Manchester North of England" t-shirt? Don't really give a fig about shale but devolution or independence would be good and persecuting Southerners is always good. "They don't like it up 'em, you know" Well, actually they probably do: time to find out!
Where do we go to join up? (Picture of Mark E. Smith with Kitchener tash proclaiming it's our duty…)
Re: THERE IS NO SUBSIDY
You can normally get any "subsidy" in contract renewal through some kind of rebate or package. I got € 5 a month for two years rebate for renewing a couple of years ago. They wouldn't extend it recently so I've go post-paid PAYG with the same network bringing down my monthly costs from € 10 to less than € 2 (yeah, I don't use it very much because I'm Billy Nomates). Their loss, I'd say.
Wait for the real figures
Here in Germany I see lots of people on the street with S4s but also S3s and a few of the big HTC's. It wouldn't surprise me to see worldwide sales of the S4 to be somewhat above the S3 over its first quarter so still impressive but less growth than expected but I'll wait for real shipped/sold figures. Would be nice to see analysts reimburse their customers if the get it wrong.
Re: *looks at Eadon and laughs*
You might want to take a look at PC-BSD. Comes with all the creature comforts of many modern Linux distros, it's just FreeBSD underneath.
Re: @M.B - *looks at Eadon and laughs*
Unfortunately the more liberal license is the reason we're all bickering here about Linux almost forgetting the BDSs
No, the licence had nothing to with it. AT&T took UC Berkeley to court at the same time as Torvalds was cloning Minix. Until the court case finished, and this being America it took a few years, BSD was considered tainted so there was an incentive to use something else, Linux was around and the rest is history.
Re: A letter to the shareholders
Massive success for Microsoft - and a significant market opportunity to connect companies with customers now that it is integrated with Lync.
Where's the payback on the $ 8 bn? Keep taking the tablets.
Incidentally "jammer" (same pronunciation) means shame in Dutch and for some reason I can't avoid thinking of it every time I read about it. Seems fitting.
A letter to the shareholders
Sorry, after aQuantive, Skype we fucked up again and spent oodles of your cash on a fashionable company. If you sell quickly you won't be affected too much by the write down when we announce it. In the meantime we're going to run a smokescreen campaign telling everyone how wonderful everything is and how our customers love Jabber…
If you want double precision, it drops down to 691 teraflops per rack.
Admittedly this is probably for specialist applications but that is still fucking impressive. We are starting to see how see these systems are going to really shake up the market. This is probably why IBM wants out of the x86 racket, or even out of the business altogether. Though if IBM hasn't got something ARM-based in the closet then I'd be very surprised. They've already done much of the leg work with cell designs.
Re: Quads aren't for everyone
Nobody wants to split the phone bill with the Brazilian guy who spends all night on the phone to his girlfriend back in Rio.
Why not? With the right package it shouldn't make any difference. It's pretty much all VoIP now anyway so if your provider starts taking the piss, just provide and OTT solution and set the router up correctly.
Possible bidding war
I think LibertyMedia is also considering buying at least a slice of Kabel and as they are less geared this could have legs.
4-play is largely irrelevant in the UK due to the dismal level of investment infrastructure and the subsequent dependence upon on BT's wires and a captive regulator.
Good report in the most recent c't about how the market is being carved up. Got Unitymedia here with fibre to the kerb 50 Mb/s downlink 4 Mb/s uplink with telephone, telly and mobile for € 35 a month. Even with the € 17 compulsory connection fee it's still more competitive than the DSL offerings.
Cooking your own food is always cheaper than junk food. If you budget really is stretched then it can be a bit bland or boring but things like lentils are hard to beat on a price/nutrition basis.
but chemicals is chemicals however you get them.
You obviously don't know your chemistry. There are an awful lot of molecules out there that are easily available from biological sources but extremely difficult to synthesise: left-handed and right-handed isomers for a start. And that's only the start - finding out which substances work together is even more difficult. Add environmental and biological factors - does your body have the right enzymes for this?
That there is a market for this kind of pseudo-science is obvious from all the comments for people looking for a silver bullet solution. But there really is no substitute for a varied diet with lots of fresh fruit and vegetables.
@Lester - love the new mouseover on the SPB logo!
Re: A nice mug o' rosie
The blenders used to blend tea to suit various parts of the country. It sounds like you've got Tetleys suited for hard water and PG for soft. Try making both after using a water filter and then compare, I've always found Tetleys distinctly lacking in taste even when using soft water.
Re: Tetley put the T in Britain
But who put the C*** in Scunthorpe?
Don't know but I wish he'd stay there.
PG Tips here - I prefer the dry Assam taste over classic builder's brew. Yorkshire tea is also good and I'll have to give the hard water blend a try next time I can pick some up. The water here next to the Rhine is hard as fuck: great for beer, shit for tea, filter is essential and you have to stop the Jormans giving you luke warm water with a teabag and condensed milk.
Nail on head
Even though we know Mr O. loves these phones he identifies the two problems facing Nokia: it's confusing the market with too many "flagships". Samsung can afford the spraygun approach, Nokia can't. It should be adopting a very clear Apple-like approach: entry level, last year's and extremely desirable. But at the end of the day there is only so much Nokia can do: if Microsoft doesn't pull its finger out and update the OS then the fleet is sunk. And, even if Microsoft does come up with the goods, who's to say that Windows Phone 8.5 (presumably to avoid confusion with the x86 only version of Windows 8.1) will run on all the current hardware.
Re: At sea, things move slowly...
Yes, ships do tend to sink pretty damn fast.
No legal ban possible
Nokia's in the EU and it is not possible to ban foreign takeovers the way they are done in the US. That said some kind of joint venture is more likely than an outright takeover. At the moment it's all just posturing and rumours from Wall Streeters hoping for fat commissions.
Re: @ Mikel - Nokia's value is impaired
Nokia's patent portfolio has come up in some recent spats and doesn't look as compelling as it once was, especially as we move towards LTE. Obviously, there is still a lot there but much of the useful stuff is already FRAND so trying to hold the competition to ransom is not really an option as many recent court cases have illustrated.
The maps business is still worth something and they obviously still have some great product designers and engineers.
Markets are all a bit frothy at the moment due to the money printing (credit is cheap) and financial repression (bonds have negative real returns). All told Nokia should be worth more than Skype but could find itself bought for around the same price especially if cash is in involved. Definitely make or break year for Nokia.
Re: Apple will buy Nokia first...
Apple doesn't have much of a record for this kind of acquisition: buying a large company, stripping out the IP and selling or closing the rest. You don't need engineers for that but lots and lots of beancounters.
Other manufacturers would never let Apple go it alone. Much more likely for a joint bid, presumably led by Microsoft who we can assume to have already assured itself with preferential rights, with the IP going to a patent pool as happened with Nortel.
If we're lucky Microsoft will get in a bidding war with itself again like it did with Skype.
Seeing as the vast majority of handsets are made in China by contract manufacturers your fears are misplaced. Anyway the spooks want, and get, backdoors in the networks so they can listen in on everyone. The reason why the US is worried is that Huawei is probably not prepared to give them access to the backdoors in its equipment.
For a large Chinese company Huawei is reasonably well run with established centres of development outside of China. ZTE on the other hand is still largely controlled by the army.
For the HCC crowd it doesn't really matter as they buy, build or have built whatever hardware best suits their requirements at the time. Both CUDA and OpenCL have increased their options in this.
Academics with the necessary skills will no doubt continue to push for architecture neutral systems. I think nVidia understands this which is why they will be pushing chip + compiler, using the added value to promote their products in a commodified market which will at some point no doubt include clusters of AMD and nVidia based chips tuned for different tasks.
Re: Why don't they...
Why? because it's inefficient. Many use cases don't need FLOPs which is one of the reasons why ARM chips are so small and popular.
nVidia isn't building systems so it doesn't do any BIOS. Not sure what you mean by a "nice operating system". Choice is all that matters.
Re: Feet, stones, pounds...
Indeed: how do elephants fare with this muck?
No one cares
Of all the pseudo-science projects you could get involved with this is both the least interesting and the least amusing.
Foreign key support is also available whether the application accesses the database via SQL or …
There really shouldn't be any qualifications there and this shouldn't really be news: enforcing relational integrity is a sine qua non for relational databases.
Apart from that, even as someone who likes neither MySQL nor Oracle, it is good to see these improvements. Of course, you can also see the way the path is being paved for users of a reasonable RDBMS to get to high margin products such as Oracle or support contracts.
Re: Does this heavy discounting
Shall we start taking bets on whether RT will get Windows 8.1? and whether this is what will be used to enforce obsolescence?
Re: same old routine
Looks like he's been well and truly trout-slapped. Oh well, maybe he should get on his pike.
We'd better close this thread before Andy Zaltzmann gets any ideas! ;-)
Those well-known marketmakers
Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan wouldn't be involved in proprietary trading again, would they?
We should soon have some firmer figures about sales from iSuppli, Canalys, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if the very high end of the market is starting to cool: smartphones are becoming standard so the novelty is starting to wear off and you can get pretty good devices contract-free for well under € 250 (ie. around € 10 per month on a two year contract) even if Mr Orlowski considers them landfill. For me, I reckon the XCover 2 looks good for bike tours with SD card and separate camera button. I've already got a Galaxy 8.9 so I don't need a high end phone.
Re: Good to hear
Some interesting points - I agree with Bronek that it's Microsoft who has to come to the ARM party and not the other way round - Warsaw sounds like a good option for Exchange servers for the immediate future. Windows Server 2012 can't be expected to be done for a new architecture anyway, so nothing before end of next year. By then MS will probably have a new CEO and may seriously be thinking about rejigging its infrastructure to suit the market. Who knows.
AMD's coming to the party brings 64-bit, hypervisor and Open-CL experience which will make a big difference if ARM gains traction. The key point is that things like OpenCompute are all about commodification and price and interoperability over absolute performance. AMD becomes and added value reseller of ARM cores, chips largely comparable to mid-range Intel but at a tenth or less of the price.
Apple isn't really interested in high performance - it wants just enough performance and endurance on consumer devices to keep the creatives loyal and dumb servers in its data centres for storing and mining their data.
What Intel doesn't want to hear
It takes the process of making a CPU down from three and a half years and $350m and $400m down to 18 months and $30m
He's not wrong on that. Kudos to AMD to understanding just how commodified the market is becoming. On the face of it the Warsaw, Berlin, Seattle models seem to have something for everyone.
Yeah someone like you - not like most people…
Are you Eadon's cousin by any chance?
Re: Yapping, baying, and mixing in without barbed wire interfaces
Don't know who voted you down without an explanation. It seems that inheritance is much misunderstood. I could add "like so much in programming".
Are there readers out there who own great farms of mixin classes, yapping and baying from within their barbed wire enclosures?
Multiple inheritance is reasonably common and painless in Python and gets used where it's appropriate. I'm personally not a great fan of "mixins", which I would define as classes that have no standalone instances, per se but they have their uses. At the end of the day you have to be able to understand your object hierarchy and delegation patterns in order to be able to debug it. And if you can remember that you might be debugging somebody else's code then you might be tempted to write more verbose but clearer code, including class genealogy.
Re: Long overdue.
The entire point of RH Linux is stability.
Don't confuse stasis for stability. The entire point of RH Linux is reassurance: "don't worry if software X is no longer supported by the developers, we will continue to look after it for you…" . RedHat is like the Microsoft of Linux by promising extremely long support cycles for its software. While this doesn't work for me (I prefer the BSD approach of a stable OS and software ports) it obviously does work for a lot of CIOs. Long term the approach is similar to other vendors: dependency by deskilling.
Re: One unique feature
Thanks for the info, I didn't know about it. I'm sure you'll agree it's not a terribly common requirement and not the sort of thing that beginners should be confronted with, unless they pick it up as a practice and start designing for it!
It depends what you want it for. Perhaps RI isn't important because its used as a content cache.
Sure, but then it isn't a relational database but a datastore that supports SQL.
There really isn't much to see here: RHEL is a commercial offering with companies apparently happy to pay RedHat to support software versions ad infinitum; Oracle is pushing ahead with improvements to MySQL (5.6 really does look to be getting quite usable) and happy to favour paying customers over "freeloaders". Both are pursuing vertical integration strategies.
Postgres is filling the niche of a full-fledged RDBMS with no strings attached, with commercial support for those who want it: Enterprise DB has a nice model for companies wanting to get off Oracle and 2nd Quadrant has just announced "platinum" support.
I must admit I've never really understood the value proposition of MyASM beyond its apparent ubiquity and some niche use cases, where speed is valued over integrity at all costs. The ubiquity lowers the barriers to entry for newbies but at the cost of encouraging poor design practices.
Re: W = V x I
Don't forget to add time to that. Even knowing the power draw is of limited value if you don't know how long the processor is doing anything. Spinning up and spinning down are important, too.
I'm sceptical about these results. AFAIK x86 beats the pants off ARM for rendering web pages but itself is soundly whipped when the GPU gets involved, as on the I-Phone. This is why the SoC with the right silicon for the right task is so important and why big.Little will only start to make sense when the compiler and scheduler have had a few generations to get it right. Intel does not do the heterogeneous computing environment of modern mobile devices anything like as well as ARM or even AMD.
Re: Energy savings directly proportional to an efficient OS kernel - e.g. Linux
Linux code is so tight it is 4x more efficient than Windows corporate bloatware. Windows is intrinsically slow due to bloated Win 32 and crap like COM and .NET and "undocumented" API's
Eadon, stop spouting shit you know so obviously know nothing about.
I'm not sure what you think you mean by "tight" code but, with relation to performance, code density refers to the machine code that runs on the processor and is dependent upon the instruction set of the processor and the compiler. Windows MFC was a bag of shit but If COM didn't exist, programmers would invent it and indeed they have, several times, for un*x. Same goes for .NET - used properly it makes everyone's life easier or do you think that application programmers should go back to the days of writing their own video and printer drivers? And undocumented APIs don't bloat anything, they just make life as a developer harder.
They still do make good handsets - this looks great and ticks all the boxes except for the OS.
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