21 posts • joined Friday 23rd May 2008 07:30 GMT
Also I find it laughably hypocritical of you and others to mention doing business with Iran as another bad point - the US and UK has dealings with Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, various Middle East, South American and African dictators and other dubious characters/borderline war criminals....
They do have an issue with PR, such is the virulence of the word communism that ANY successful company coming from China will have, at the very least, mutterings and speculation (most likely from anyone in the world wanting to block Chinese global success) of having help from its Communist government. It's ironic considering, in the early days of the great American and British companies we know of the world over today, they have had extensive government backing, whether it's funds or preferential treatment.
Of course this would be fine if it was tit for tat, the trouble is that Chinese consumers WANT western brands, whilst vice versa the opposite is true (Made in China is not the same as a Chinese brand, where the company takes the lion's share of the profits, unlike the poor slave workers in the factory)
The changes aren't apparent, as the writer suggests. Minimum wage has gone up by 40% in the past 5 years (obviously not much by western comparison, but a huge shift to account for so many workers). This is evident by news stories in business mags that companies are moving out of China to setup shop elsewhere e.g. Thailand, Philipines, India etc. where it is already knocking on China's doorstep regarding manufacturing competititveness.
Re: Chinese morality is amusing.
"Could use the term a Leopard never changes his spots, once a Chinese spook always a Chinese spook, bribery is a way of life in Asia"
Once a white spook, always a white spook then? Explain why western (white) companies indulge in bribery in African and other nations then, in order to solidify a presence (e.g. Coca Cola) or secure an energy supply (Shell, BP etc.) in the region? Bribery is a way of life for businesses who have to deal with countries that are easily bribed.
Re: boy oh boy
That's because that "odd Lamarckian view" is correct. Cosmic radiation that our atmosphere protects us from is exposed. And don't believe me, take it from NASA, who said that anyone on a proposed trip to Mars will suffer from increased chances of cancer and reduced fertility.
And what is up with that title? Male, female Chinese... could have just said Chinese...seriously, the editorial staff are rubbish.
Sarcastic bias in Chinese related articles
Explain how "global coverage" equates to world domination??? It's hardly the first time something like this has happened either. There's an undercurrent of "oh noes the Chinese, they're a massive monolithic group intent on warping your brains", when in reality it is us who are doing precisely what we accuse. Maybe that's the aim...
Press Freedom doesn't equate to the Truth
This is one of the reasons why people in the West tend to be narrow minded. In China, everyone knows the press is state run and thus biased. So they look for other sources from foreign media - unfortunately realising that they too are biased. So they learn early on, not to place their trust in any one or group of media sources.
Here in the West, the model of free press has been mistaken for the truth. i.e no way can the press lie, speculate and take part in shady deals, because it's free! And therein lies the problem. We are so convinced that our favourite newspaper, channel etc. are impartial because of its freedom to say what it wants, that it can get way with "fair and balanced" stories that are anything but, creating reports that go along with what people WANT to believe, and not quite the hard truth.
Born in a different century
Are you still stuck in the Mao era?
Titles are crap
Yes, like with GPS and every other tracking device (cellular triangulation) out there. How else is it supposed to work?
It is the education system and the watchful eye of the Chinese Govt that screws with innovation and creativity. Namely, everything is done by rote (the workings of Confucious - still taught in the system - actually promotes this), and even if one becomes a creator and inventor outside the system, the authorities monitor your success and worm their way in. Don't like it? Become an automaton.
It is for this precise reason that countries like America and Britain can easily take talented (potentially and realised) Chinese from the country to use for their own companies i.e. use the expertise of highly skilled Chinese for their own advantage, whilst simultaneously depriving China of those skills. A bit sad really.
As for the browser itself, I don't get this fascination the Chinese have with IE. Surely they know that it is easily hacked, thus allowing their computers to become bots? Or maybe that's their plan, feign ignorance through the instability of IE.
Agreed. I despise these people (and that includes foreigners in our countries too) who make themselves home, short term or otherwise, yet bitch, mock and laugh at every single thing the hosts do different. Don't like it here, go home.
We are weak
Porridge? This is a British jail you are talking about. Three full meals (nutritionally balanced) a day, free gym, education opportunities, books, TV, computer games in their ensuite room.
A bit obvious
First off, it's laughable to report this as something serious and scary as "commie hackers penetrate our systems OMGG!!" All businesses and government departments receive unknown attacks everyday, just block and move on.
Secondly, why on earth would they use the method of spamming/phishing for passwords? It's too obvious, and something I would expect Nigerian and other part time hackers from other countries to do for the money.
Lastly, there is no guarantee it is the Chinese government's actions, or even the people involved whose computers are affected. How many of our computers (obviously not us, we're geeks and too good for that... right?) in Britain and America are open to act as a bot due to zero security...we don't call it the actions of the UK government do we? Due to the number of lax security PCs in China, and the country being an easy scapegoat, criminals and other nefarious organisations would use it as a good way to shield their own activities...I wouldn't be surprised if American hackers (state sponsored?) are taking control of computers in China and using it to hack countries around the world that only China would e.g. Tibet, America, separatists etc... it would suit the US agenda well, because they are pushing Congress to pass increased budgets for their cyberwarfare activities.
Harmless vs damaging stereotypes
Oh come off it. Those stereotypes are hardly offensive. Englishman doesn't look football oh noes!!!
How about this - a white man in a far eastern country is labelled a paedophile. Not so harmless now, eh.
According to stats, there were as many as 200,000 comfort women - mostly Chinese and Korean - but a few westerners - raped by the Japanese. You will the western governments of such nations affected still petitioning the Japanese government to set up compensation funds.
But then you read about the subsequent occupation of Japan after the nukes by the Americans, British, Australians and Canadians -
Have these governments set up compensation funds for them?
everytime our "brave troops" fires a weapon or uses gunpowder. That will earn the Chinese 100x as much as we lose in piracy.
And btw, China has never had a stranglehold on software copies since the internet and torrenting took off... the people who buy fakes and copies in China never will have had the money to buy the real deal anyway... much like the record industry here keeps bitching on about lost revenue when no-one was going to buy their rubbish track.
Hopefully this will make the Transformers Movie commercially nonviable and finally get that Michael Bay away from the director's chair.
Oh, the humanity
Seems like the general consensus here is that the lives of Chinese people are worth less than pandas because there are more of them. And here I was, thinking human life was sacred, regardless of race, religion...or in this case, how populous the affected demographic were.
But then, that would require an ounce of humanity.
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