Re: Why is it different for computer use ?
>Well, first of all... you can't kill someone over standard tcp/ip...
That depends on how well you can manage Stuxnet and/or Regin.
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>Well, first of all... you can't kill someone over standard tcp/ip...
That depends on how well you can manage Stuxnet and/or Regin.
Should the heardables, sheeple, collectively known as "The Flox" be required to obtain a licence before being allowed to go near the interwebs ?
In all honestly, many people were given the key to a technology/toolkit for which they have had no prior training, are completely unaware of the abuse that can and is done, and are simply lost in the miriad of abreviations and keywords. ( Those in a business environment have less excuses, there should be an IT bod in the vicinity to help explain things).
A static textfile or an executable have no difference for the Flox, they just click on the damned thing and a program magically opens up displaying the content/performing the task. Why should they be expected, "inherently", to know the difference ?
By default, Windows turns of File Extensions which makes things even more vague. I can understand the anguish of those that receive a file named "Electricity Bill.pdf.docx.exe"
I understand that the OS has a lot to answer for but the user has his role to play as well.
The user interface of a vehicule, road signs, basic laws are relatively simple but we are obliged to take lessons and pass a licence. Why is it different for computer use, which for the user, is far more complex ?
> Horse-Drawn Aeroplane
That's definately a 2 or 3 beer analogy. Cheers
"Only thing I would find awesome is if Windows 10 ran as well as other operating systems I've used."
If it doesn't you could always change the name to Defenestration X.
Do people honestly use AWESOME, in upper case I might add, as an adjective for an OS ?
I would honestly prefer something like, "Enterprise class", or "Business strengthened", "Proven stablility", yes, they are boring but they actually mean something.
AWESOME is a very vague word that has about as much appeal as a blunt kitchen knife in an operating theatre. It's a word associated with beach bums and surfers named Brice....
Bring back the IT adjectives, they're boring but appropriate.
I had no other option, I was far too worried about the shitstorm that would have arrived if I had used the "Gl*ck" word.
"Well, 'cracker' is a racial epithet in the US, that's why the press avoids it."
I'd say it was then about time that a lot of people grew up. It appears that anyone with enough time on their hands will eventually find a term, a word or a phrase which offends them.
In my book, if you decide to behave like a c**t then you have to accept to be treated like a c**t.
I put asterisks in place in order to avoid offending all the colts...
"The organization notes it was a "spear phishing" attack, suggesting employees clicked on a link in the messages, and then typed their usernames and passwords into a bogus webpage, providing hackers with the keys to their accounts."
This can't be serious, if it is then maybe they should change their name to ICANT....
"Unlike Google Glass, which required users to purchase the full headset, the Sony unit clips on to a user's own sunglasses, sport goggles or fashion glasses (the company did not say whether the display will work with prescription lenses at this point.)"
So the product has intentionally been designed for the Fashionista crowd. I've yet to see someone wearing Google Glass so I don't imagine that these are really going to make much of an impact either.
Is there really a mass market for these wearables, I can think of specific niches, but I just don't see these as being a "herdable" product.
ps : That's the 1st time I have seen "herdable" in an article.....makes a change from sheeple.
Would be nice to have an El Reg "icon" way out there.
"Come off it mate, "current events" are universally grim: Isis, murders, wars, unemployment, lying shithead politicians."
Always look on the bright side of life, dum, di dum, di dum di dum di dum....
Life's a piece of shit, when you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true
You'll see its all a show, keep 'em laughin as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you
Always look on the bright side of life, dum, di dum, di dum di dum di dum....
Couldn't think of more appropriate timing....
I just read an article that stated that it was around the late 1950, early 1960 that the Americans started to use "I could care less". Before then, apparently they did acutally use the "I couldn't care less" version.
The article also states that no known reason has been stated as to why the negation disappeared.
UK : Couldn't care less.
US : Could care less. ( I cringe every time I hear this).
UK : Couldn't agree more.
US : Could agree more ( Can someone confirm if the "other side of the pondians" use this too, even though it is far more cringeworthy than the other monstrosity)
So basically this is a free-for-all service whereby any numpty on the planet can respond to a request for services. Now what could possibly go wrong with that !!
It's easy to understand from the Taxi-Drivers point of view. Imagine that the same kind of service went out for IT.
UBER-IT, we respond to your important IT requests 24 hours a day. We can't garauntee the service but we will gaurantee that your troubles are only beginning..
Somewhere else in the universe a long piece of pipe is heating up to extreme levels in order that black holes can be sucked backwards through the pipe at incredibly slow speeds.
>They can post it online, but a true fan will simply choose to not download it.
I don't mind them posting it online, I can then choose not to look or search for it. I worry about the media splashing the story across the Internet/Newspapers/Twitter anywhere public that they feel that they can make a quick buck on...
Assange, if a French speaing person says his name it sounds like "un singe" which means "A monkey".
>If you could find a way to focus my schadenfreude particle emissions into a coherent stream you could vaporize black holes.
For years they have been researching a replacement for nuclear power and dirty energies.. Look no further lads, I think we have found the solution...
So Sony's sorry situation spirits some schadenfreude.
Calm down Trevor, this article is about the Bond script, the Sony hacking article was a few days ago...
"Really? I think it's fitting and just. Sony have been such utter fuckbags to their own customers for so many years that I think this is a great start to the penance they should be paying".
Talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face... I couldn't give a toss about Sony, that was not my point. What I care about is the futility of releasing the Bond script. Ok, Sony might lose a few dollars, it won't stop them being a bunch off bastards. But it truly does affect the actors, writers, film crew, carpenters, coffeee boys, the audience and fans of Ian Flemings hero...
No-one gives a shit about Sony but this story is not about them.
Oh shit you revealed the script....
Nah, but seriously, every James Bond and every JB film is different, each has its own quirks, exotic locations, cars, weapons, girls, penthouses, squabbles between Bond and M, Q and his inventions etc etc. Yes the algorithm is always pretty much the same but somehow they always seem to improve on the last and keep you thirsting for more. ( Timothy Daltan being the exception, what a let down).
DC brought the grit back into a series that needed modernisation, personally I think they succeeded. Daniel Craig and Monica Belucci sharing the screen, cmon, who doesn't like that idea........ even if we already know how it ends....almost..
This is not just a World Company X got hacked scenario, there is something much more offputting about this....
Unlike the LOTR where we know the story in advance, the Bond films offer something fresh each time and they are usually a pleasure to watch... It really would be senseless to release the script.
Or alternatively it might actually be that that life, the universe and everything is actuallly the question to 24..
Fortunately two girls one cup and goatse scenarios do not produce offspring....I am not sure that they fall into the category of porn either, horror maybe...
"what would have happened if there was a family in the restaurant at the time?”
Well, they would have seen some naked bodies performing the kinds of acts that resulted in their existance... What would they do if their children walked into their bedroom whilst they were having sex ?
A cleaver hacks.
A hacker cleaves.
A heaver clacks..
A clacker heaves
Which one are you ?
RockStarGames are very tolerant, they will allow anyone to play. I can think of several "distributors of dogma" that are a lot less welcoming and open armed....
The antonym of Tim Bermers Lee is faced with a crucial decision, do we or don't we add the dislike button.
Since there is no gain/loss ratio impact in El Regs up/down voting system, it really has no influence other than personal satisfaction/quick find me a rope tied in a noose situations for the dearest of the dear RegTards.
BUT, and this is a HUGE BUT, as in the American full sized butt, the FB crowd have slightly thinner skin and Mr Zuk's decison to introduce the big bad dislike button could actually result in the rather quick demise of a small, read miniscule, percentage of the world's FB population.
Having recently received more down-votes in one thread than some people receive up-votes in a year I do know what I am talking about... Having frequented El Reg for a few years I have become accustomed to some rather heated debates...Admittedly I do not win them all but as a rather thick skinned Scotsman I can take as much as I can give... ( Objectively the Scots are a bunch of hard bastards)
Regardless, the point that I want to make,, and all sarcasm aside, I believe that that El Zuk actually does have a major decision to make: For some people/business/artists etc a large quantity of down-votes is actually going to have a very large impact in their lives.. the online life has become a very, very personal and even financial offline affair. ( This is different from TripAdvisor in relation to the fact that FB has always been a personal rather than a business thing, although the business side definitely is a vector too)
The web has become a battleground and anonymity has become as shield, The weapons of choice, the ad-hominem and the dislike button.. Today's warriors are far more likely to have keyboard rather than trigger skills. Therein lies a certain poetic abstraction of contemporary vice...
El Zuks role has now become similar to that of a newspaper editor in that he decides which columns should appear and which shouldn't and the consequences of such are actually very "consequential":
Should we shoot the editor or shoot the messenger, never an easy decision....
I really deserve a slap in order to wake up, I didn't even understand what the original AC was actually referring to... I honestly thought he was referring to coffee in order that I wake myself up....
I just re-read the comment and undersood what he really meant, "facepalm for me"....
Removing anonymity from TOR , now thats ironic, could we then rename it to "The Orthodox Ring".
@The orignal AC
I understand the reference to coffee since I am having a slow morning but you lost me with the quoted text..
Is there a paradoxical element to this being a Tor member that I have completely missed or is this just another cyber bullying article. I can't quite catch the drift of the article, I am having a slow morning.
Again Trevor, thank for your reply, I find that what you say is honest and feasible.. I will not try to dispute what you are saying. I won't deny that I may have been swayed by some, what I intially thought to be genuine theories, especially the technical theories,a t face value some of them sound very plausible.
Something that disturbs me though is the following, why are there so many conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 ? There are people devoting their lives to uncovering the truth. Books have been written, films have been shot, documentaires are 10 a penny. Intelligent and educated people collaborating on technical aspects ( AE911truth.org) Ex-CIA agents ( Susan Lindauer) coming out with their versions of the truths, ex-vets (http://www.mo911truth.org/) getting together and requesting futher investigations etc etc etc .
Is it feasibly possible that they are all wrong, I am not advocating that they are right, just that it seems improbable that they are all wrong. What are the chances that there is Smoke without Fire.
Is it just a general consensus that the governements (those in control) are no longer to be trusted ? Is there a reason for someone wanting to create this kind of psychological chaos within society or has society simpy lots its marbles. Is this the precursor of what's likely to increasingly happen in the near/immediate future.
At the end of the day the same question will always arise : Who stands or stood to gain from this ? or is it just the kickback from prior errors.
Trevor, One question
Do you personally believe that everything that the media showed and told to be the absolute truth concerning 9/11 ?
Let me resume very, quickly my stand on things and why would I be sway towards the Pro-Conspiracy side of things.
It's very simple really, I do not for a moment believe that what was told is true. I do not believe that 19 Al Qaeda terrorists managed to fool the entire US Secret Service, that they managed to hijack 4 aircraft, whilst leaving no trace of how they managed to execute what can only be considerd as a perfectly executed scenario. I cannot believe that these attacks were not pre-planned by someone on the American side of the fence, it's just not feasible. I cannot believe that there was not a political motivation behind these attacks.
When I use the word believe, I mean "blind belief", the kind of belief that states that no matter what stange anamolies exist, that we continue to believe in the given story.
You mention yourself on several occasions that some things just do not seem quite kosher. You too realise that there is an underlying dilemma and I am sure .that you too would like to understand the full scenario.
By trying to sift throught the ProConspiracy theorists theorems I hope to catch a glimpse of something that can help understand what truly happened.
I am not per se a Pro-Conspiracy theorists, what I am is someone that will not accept that the given events of 9/11 are the whole truth.
First off, thanks for taking the time to write something lucid rather than the ranting that I sat through up above. Initially all that I wished was to highlight was the power of the media, I had no intention to enter into yet another debate about 9/11 but as the internet/forums go that’s unfortunately how these things often string out.
Some of your remarks, most notably concerning Black Ops experience I can only agree with. Are Dick Cheney and his cronies capable of pulling off some nasty stunts, definitely. Do we have the technology available to fake the videos, data and coerce the media, of course we do, and we have had it for a long time already. So we definitely agree on all those points.
I will give you 1 point for your theory on foreign satellites; this is a subject that I have never seen mentioned anywhere. I presume that foreign governments are not likely to admit spying in the states though, so they have to remain quiet.
You are right, I cannot prove or disprove what was actually flown into the buildings or Shanksvilel, nor how it was done but I am convinced that it was certainly not done using the means that were publicised.
Here are some points that I will never understand that will eternally leave doubts in my mind.
• The manner in which the 2 towers and the WTC 7 fell, the statistics of this happening defy all probability. All three building fell “perfectly” to the ground….
• 7 of the hijackers are alive and well, the BBC found them and interviewed them. So ban goes the theory about 19 hijackers.
• Both “planes” hit their targets perfectly, this is a task that is apparently “extremely, read almost impossible” for a very seasoned 767 pilot and yet they would have us believe that people barely capable of flying a Cesna managed to do it with complete control. ( I have been in and tried a real flight simulator, a C-130 and learned first hand that yes it is difficult to fly a plane. I cant even begin to imagine what it means to fly a 767.... )
• Why was a 747 engine found on Murray street. AA and their 767s do not use these kinds of engines.
• When Convar recovered data some of the mainframe hard drives there was proof that more than a 100 Million dollars was illegally moved on the morning of the attack. This leads to believe that someone was aware of something was going to happen.
• Stock markets - 600% increase in “Put Options” on American Airlines on Sept 10….. No one has yet claimed the money that was maid on these transactions...
• WTC7 – Not a controlled demolition, very hard to believe. Coincidently it is well known that is was an FBI/CIA/NSA building.
• WTC6 Core – Wtf happened t here..
• The Pentagon – Why do so many pilots and even Gen. Stubblebine refuse to accept that an aircraft hit that building? There are far too many credible people refuting the facts, these are people with nothing to gain and a hell of a lot to lose. This doesn’t make sense.
• The Pentagon’s defense sensors were switched off except for the one that captued the incoming aircraft? Now this really is hard to believe...
• Flight 93 – Shanksville – Absolutley nothing to show that an aircraft hit the ground except for a hole. No parts, no engine, no bodies, no luggage, nothing… A 100 tonnes of Airfcraft + passengers etc just “disintegrated”.
• It would be easy to add many, many more but there is no point…
Please do not respond to the above points, we would be at it for weeks and neither of us would advance. I just want to convey some of the issues for which I do not see, nor have read any truly rational solution that outweighs the pro-conspiracy theory solutions thesis.
As I mentioned above, my initial goal was simply to demonstrate the power that the media have, especially with narrated video. We were immediately told that is was Al Qaeda and a terrorist attackbefore anything at all could have been established. I think this thread is a perfect example of just how powerful imagery can be. It can sway opinions very strongly, regardless of the direction.
For a long time I have read many of your comments/articles and I have some insight into your professional capacities, Cartesian spirit, capacity for rational thought and even your “aspie” view of the world. Mix all of the aforementioned traits together and it is obvious that you must be in a position to also doubt many of the “facts” of 9/11.
But I digress, this thread needs to die and as much as I would truly like to know the truth about 9/11 I am confident of one thing, we will never be allowed to learn the complete story.
If you go back though all of the DVers comments you will notice that no-one has actually provided any links or proof as to who actually did do this ! All I have been shown is a photograph of a piece of fuselage, which after viewing the video that they screend could not have been left so fully intact. What happend to the Black Box
I have made my point, I stand by my convinction, I understand that the majority do not agree and yet all of you just blindly accept what you have been told.
It reminds me very much of the the Bible believers being told that a Deity exists and then blindly believing that that is the given truth.
Rather than tell me I'm a fool, prove your own standpoints, you never know it might actually make me change my mind.
Simple request to all the DVers: We have been told time and time again that it was OBL and yet he denied the fact but why would a terrorist deny his crowing act. The "FBI" said that they can't prove it was OBL.
Can someone please point me to some straighforward, indisputable evidence proving who really pulled of this attack.
It might be worth asking that same question to the people that created the event whereby Lee Harvey Oswald was made responsable for the shooting of a certain JFK. Absolutely amazing what some people are capable of, shooting the president of the United States, only conspiracy theorists would believe that anyone in power had anything to do with that.....
Or maybe ask this guy, he doesn't torture people, again it's a conspiracy theory, dont worry it doesn't really happen.. We dont torture poeple
( Oops I forgot to mention yesterdays news
What about these conspiracy theories, it so happens that what started out as conspiracy theories actually were true.....
* Operation Northwood. - Conspiracy theory stated that plans had been drawn up to create acts of terrorism on US soil in order to gain public support for a war against Cuba.
Conspiracy Theory , certainely not , proof is here "http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf".
*Operaton Cointelpro : Program to disceredit Martin Luther King
Proof : http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/part-2d.html
*TPPA - just another Conspiracy Theory.....
*The US Govt spies on it's people. Again just another Conspiracy Theory. ( Chelsea Manning and Snowden were just puppets, n'est-ce pas).
So what actually makes 911 any different. All of the above require lots of manpower, people in powerfull positions, carefull use of the media. Amazing the similarity with the Cuban incident.
I can't prove who organised 9/11 but then again who can.....
The official 9/11 report is full of holes, that's public knowledge not speculation. There are several generals and ex-cia who have testified but are being bullied into remaining quiet, why...
Why has the FBI never found any evidence linking the terrorists to 9/11 ?
Unbelievable Quote :
Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI responded, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.
I believe that had this been a true terrorist threat the USA would have dropped the bomb on someone but they didn't, they killed OBL and went to afghanistan to fight a war that no-one understands...Wtf and people think that I am a fool. ( Sorry, I should say "cretin" in accordance with Dan. apology accepted by the way)..
Are we supposed to believe that something good has come of all this....If so what ?
Since this is going to be my ultimate donwvoting day....here is a little piece of widsom for all the DVers..
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)
"The Twin Towers collapsed because their design had fundamental flaws. Contrary to popular belief, architects and engineers are not infallible. Even Isambard Kingdom Brunel made plenty of mistakes."
As much as I concur that 1 or 2 architects and engineers might make mistakes, I very much doubt that 2300 architects and engineers made the same mistake.
Why would someone like John Lear be telling lies or be invloved in a conspirarcy theory.
Why the hell would these credible people take the risk of exposing themselves to such incredible theories....
>In amongst the mass of human debris and carnage, the last thing on anyone's mind was "hmm, where's the bits of plane gone?"
Let's surmize that it was a missile. Wouldn't you like to know if that was an American, Russian, Chinese or Iranian etc missile. If that missile was American would you not want to know why.....
The details of a crime help to understand who was responsable for the crime. When vital pieces are removed quickly then a lot of doubt can be cast, hence the reason for the conspiracy theories.
To this day, I believe that there is no formal proof that Al Qaeda ( Osama Bin Laden) had anything to do with those acts.. Care to provide proof of the contrary.
So why bother transferring bitcoins if you will end up paying in another currency, what would be the advantage ?
What's next, an inbuilt TOR client, a inbuilt bittorent client and just to top it of live porn feed. All you need to do is fill up your Bitcoin wallet from an accredited MS Bitcoin provider....
Sarcasm aside, I am extremely surprised to see MS taking this so seriously. What I don't understand is how they, MS , Apple or Google etc will ensure the stability of Bitcoin. When dealing with illegal drugs, guns or whatever that was being sold on the Silk Road is one thing, if you get ripped off then it's your own fault, but when we are talking about a major software house/shiny shiny maker or Googletastic Google then the games changes quite a bit ( pun intended).
This week a game will cost your 0.2 bitcoins, next week 0.8 bitcoins and then the week after back to 0.4 bitcoins. How will they stop the Yoyo effect or don't they care.
The funny thing with me and Linux is that I always end up choosing interfaces that are very close to Windows 95/XP. I presonally find them to be the least distracting/easiest on the eyes. ( In my case Linux is not soley run through a cli, I need applications too.)
Hell, I even dumb down W7 to make it look closer to XP and alsmost systematically use a solid darkish blue or black desktop.. I really don't care about Aero or eye candy.
Keep the W7 interface, keep a reasonable 3d theme, (do not add those damned flat and very white interface themes), mix in the W10 Kernel and voila you have won my heart...
We do not need interface changes, they already work and we know how to use them, changing the engine is fine as long as it doesn't break things. We don't need cloudy, cloudy, shiny, shiny either, honestly we don't, as an option Ok why not, as the default definately not.
I am happy with a mouse and keyboard, they work just fine. You can add the touchy feely interface but please make it optional, unless on a tablet or phone. We also don't mind if the interfaces are different between desktops, tablet and phone, its Ok, we are intelligent enough to deal with it.
And FFS leave the Server interfaces completely alone..... I want consistency between servers interfaces, the alternative means lost time trying to find the same things that I have been doing for years and no added benefit.
>Both times it has been where an unknown emergency patient was involved in an accident of sufficient severity that their gender could not be determined.
I can skin and gut deer without problem but your description sounds as though I would still be a bit swayed for a few days after.
Ok,after reading that list I could probably make some further suggestions
A la mode.
I must admit that "Unknown" is a little but worrying.
So outside of Male, Female, Androgyne, Hermaphrodite what else actually exists in the physical form?
Definately dangerous technlogy due to it's lack of requirement for OS interfacing.
So the obvious next stage would be to intercept what is being sent to the screen and to modify it in such a manner that tricks the target into believing that they must re-enter/change their password for example.