Re: The application is not the problem
"This isn't passwords in emails, it is the password for the EMAIL ACCOUNT itself that is being stored on AWS servers."
Shit, I'm having a bad day, diagonal reading and all that . My bad...
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"This isn't passwords in emails, it is the password for the EMAIL ACCOUNT itself that is being stored on AWS servers."
Shit, I'm having a bad day, diagonal reading and all that . My bad...
Unless I am mistaken the EU data protection regulations do not oblige companies to use encryption they only advise it.
The principal "Security:" does not define "how" data should be kept safe and secure. This is vague and open to abuse.
The 7 EU data protection regulations principals:
•Notice: subjects whose data is being collected should be given notice of such collection.
•Purpose: data collected should be used only for stated purpose(s) and for no other purposes.
•Consent: personal data should not be disclosed or shared with third parties without consent from its subject(s).
•Security: once collected, personal data should be kept safe and secure from potential abuse, theft, or loss.
•Disclosure: subjects whose personal data is being collected should be informed as to the party or parties collecting such data.
•Access: subjects should granted access to their personal data and allowed to correct any inaccuracies.
•Accountability: subjects should be able to hold personal data collectors accountable for adhering to all seven of these principles.
Rogue Admins can have full access to email systems and unless the emails are encrypted you have to consider your data as being "public".
If the text that they are sucking out contains unencrypted passwords/info then the problem is not the app. The text should not be available in the first place.
Why are unencrypted passwords or other confidential details being stored in such an easy to get manner.
We have partners that refuse to deal with use unless the entire contents of the emails are encrypted. We are not an IT company, we deal with medical information and credit card information, if we can do it why can't the government.
If users are storing passwords or confidential information in email folders the problem is with the user not with the application/device.
It's about the equivalant of writing a password on a post-it and putting it in the top drawer hoping that no-one will look in there. Even if the drawer is locked the cleaner might have the key, or you forget to lock the drawer, or you forget that you put it in the drawer etc etc .....
They either have to learn to use encryption or to not store confidential information in a clear text format.....
Surprising that this kind of technology has not moved into other domains, vehicles, laptops, high end cameras etc
Today it is your telephone, tommorrow your sperm. Your children will be pwned before they are even born.
"It is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself."
Those in power have more to lose than they have to gain....so they wont fuck with the Saudis.
I read that as "Comments are like fried ice-cream" . I thought this was going to be about the ephemeral nature of thread comments....
I will only respond to the points for which we have some opposing or different points of view. For the rest of your remarks, let me at least thank you for taking the time to reply in an honest and intelligent manner.
“I reject the idea that only a mother can be "motherly" or a father "fatherly". These are for the most part socially enforced roles, not intrinsic ones.”
The female of our species is the only one of the two that physically gives birth. She also endures the accompanying physical, hormonal and mental changes. She can also, where desired, proceed to feed the child from her breast and watch it grow with her milk as the sole source of nutrition. Only a woman can know what this means. This gives her “motherly” attributes that no man can ever possess. I firmly believe that the bond created between mother and child is far stronger than that of the father and the child. This does not mean that the father cannot also gain a bond with the child but obviously it cannot be the same, it is not the same physical bond that the mother knows. The father also knows that he “fathered” this child, it is the fruit of his loins and it is union with the woman that engendered the child. These elements are part of what makes a parent a mother or a father. I would state that these are intrinsic and not social. These elements cannot be learned, they can only be lived.
As you mentioned, the social traits of each figure, mother and father, have been cultured through centuries of social interaction. This too cannot be ignored, as these traits will continue for the next few hundred centuries.
In a same sex relation, an imbalance will result due to the fact that only one of the intrinsic parental roles being available. Only one of the partners will actually be the real mother or real father, the other partner then being thrown into the role of a surrogate parent, of the same phsical sex. If I were in a same sex relation, and was not the biological father, it would be impossible for me to take the role of the mother. Again I am not saying that I would not be a good parent, just that I would not be able to fill the instrinsic role.
“The thing is, all else being equal it probably is better for a very young child to have one parent of each sex because that provides a greater breadth of role-models. But things never are "all else being equal". “
Yes, I definitely agree on this point. Although I would argue that things usually are quite equal. Within given sectors of social and economic backgrounds, most people are actually very similar, even though they do not like to hear that.
“Rate parenting quality on some hypothetical and impossible to actually create scale of 1...100 and say you get +2 points for having role-models of both genders. How much does that compare to the +20 of having two parents who really love each other, or the -30 of having one of those parents be unfeeling and distant? It doesn't.”
I would argue that it is not the capacity to be a good parent that is important as same sex parents are a probably equally capable of being good parents. What I believe, which might be more fundamental, is the child eventual understanding/learning of the family constitution, especially when he realizes that his family does not correspond to that of the natural environment. ie : Why are my parents not of opposing sexes?.
All around he will see nature, the animals, the media, etc and most notably other kids families and in each case he observes that there is a mother ( a female) and a father(a male). But in his case he will not see these physical elements; he will see physical manifestations of 2 mothers, or 2 fathers. How difficult will this dilemma be for the child to unravel?. How does one successfully teach a child understand the situation whereby natures constants show the mother is a female, the father is male but that within his own family this natural order is not respected?
“ And I could even make a case that same-sex couples can have hidden benefits such as not propagating unhealthy social expectations. “
This point is difficult as it depends upon what one constitutes as healthy/unhealthy social expectations. Society as a whole has its idea on the matter, religion has its own and each person yet again his own personal ideas. Society will generally tend to lean towards that we bring it the most benefit. Today’s Politically Correct mindset wants us to believe that we all have choice and that all choices should be respected/tolerated but I would argue that this is superficial and that the underlying currents often oppose the generally distributed media view. The acceptance of same-sex couples is a new factor within society and has no precedence; it is bright and shiny for the moment. When the bright and shiny wears of, I believe that we will start to see some very, very difficult situations arising.
“I am a feminist. In any traditional couple you are likely to have slightly different domestic behaviour between the male and female parent. A female child will likely more identify with the female parent and thus gender-based roles are perpetuated. Whereas a female child with two male parents would not run that risk.”
As mentioned above I believe that this will actually lead to confusion for the child due to the paradoxical nature of the parental constitution.
“Of course there are some benefits to a male-female parent unit. It can be handy for a child to have someone of their own sex to talk to - especially when they hit puberty. “But that doesn't mean that any given same-sex couple is going to be bad as parents.
“Or even that these problems are especially difficult to overcome!””
I can only imagine that they would be almost impossible to overcome due to the contradiction with nature. Nature manifests that male-male or female-female cannot reproduce, it is therefore paradoxical for the child to understand that he can have been born from same-sex parents.
“Basically, your argument based on the idea of marriage being about children is a supportable position to some extent (imo), but not your corollary that only male-female can be good parents.”
I only believe that a child needs a mother and a father, of the biological kind in order to achieve the correct equilibrium. I also agree that having biologically opposed parents gives no guarantee whatsoever about the outcome or capacity to be good parents. But that it is the fundamental for a solid beginning.
“This, I regard as just some bizarre perversion of an Appeal To Tradition fallacy. And no, I don't think we're going down the same path as the Romans because we're becoming more tolerant of homosexuality.”
I mentioned this because at one point homosexuality, at least among men, was very much accepted within given periods but that the periods ended and homosexuality was again put into the bad light.
Here is a presentation, in French of course, it doesn't actually seem as bad as you might first imagine.
It's too long for me too translate but too resume things very briefly, there are 4 main sections.
1: International relations ( Strange she but she doesn't mention what this section actually does) Probably cooperation with CIA, GCHQ etc.
2: Operations : Taking care of the various web scams, false credit cards, piracy and mobile telephony scams ( automatic SMSs sent in the background to over-taxed tel. numbers etc).
3: Technical Assistance - Informing the public about dangers, setting up stategy for safe usage etc. A kind of hotline.
4: Tracking illegal web content - Paedophilia, Racism, Terrorism etc ... They have a website in which you can notify them of URLs/Sites that contain illicit content.
They appear to be a mix of both the police and the Gendarmerie and will and do follow up the various affairs. Doesn't look so bad really, this is not some government nanny squad, they actually do appear to be on the look out for the bad guys ( or at least in the video that's how the come across).
Les Francais sont loin d'etre aussi con que certain peut imaginer.
I see that the actual capacity to understand some mild wit is actually dropping on El Reg these days !
Oh well not to worry.......says the wooly backed troll as he trundles over to his trough...
“Many DDoS attacks are little more than a temporary inconvenience but in this case Sullivan’s actions are likely to have deprived vulnerable people of access to important information, ranging from where to get support on family breakup, to reporting crime anonymously"
I am surprised that he didn't managed to add a "save the world's children hotline" into this list of deprived vulnerable people.
Is that you Julien ?
It would have been amusing to have seen the English version using Blighted rather than Blighty.
"It's likely one of the 90% scale replicas doing the airshow circuit."
Mise en Scene by the El Reg Playmobil team.
"If I strap it to my wrist, can I claim prior art?"
Better yet, keep it in your pocket and call it a "pocket
And to top it off you probably don't have to charge yours up anymore than once every three years.
Ok I'll give that to you but it was already 2 days old.. and since El Reg works at the speed of light, that was a long time ago.. :-)
Blackhats 3 - Evil Overlords 0
The pesky ruskies are busy of late, first Sony now Apple. Blackhats 2 - Evil Overlords 0
[On the same day = the same day that El Reg announced these "theories"]
I kind of wondered about that too, occasionaly we see a lot bit of Effing and Shoving but seldom of this variety or strength.
The interwebs really have become the outlet for contemporary woes.
What would the law do if the faces were blurred out, a la Google Streetview. How would the defendant prove that he/she were the actuelle victim, especially if they had put on/or lost a bit of weight in between time.
Or if said partner were to be partaking in some rubber fun, full rubbered/latexed up it would be nigh on impossible to prove who was who..
Does dressing up in Nazi uniforms with soft rubber whips class itself as a sexual act... ( I won't FORMULAte any suggestion about anyONE).
The lawyers will probably have a lot of fun with some of these cases. Quick thought, I wonder if a Lawyers darknet exists ?
"No doubt it’s also why the genre died a death too, only to be replaced by the more user-friendly "Telltale Games" style episodic gaming in more recent years."
Yup, I always like to believe that initially computers and the early games were played by people that were capable of thinking rationally ( even though some of the puzzles were a little unrational to say the least).
Unfortunately the masses have to be catered for and the IQ levels appear to be far lower. Now it's either a "visual experience", ie lots of nice graphics but no gameplay or it is fire, fire, fire at anything that moves.
I do follow the 0adventuregamers site from time to time hoping that a new Gabriel Knight, everyones favourite Schattenjäger, will appear. The last game I bought was "The vanishing of Ethan Carter" but it's slowness bored me to death, the 'trudgery' of walking around was painfull....
"Due to the fact that he (Mastermind) has not passed the data to anyone and has no intention to do so in the future, ... we have paid him an award for finding a vulnerability and agreed on further cooperation in the field of data security," the company said in a statement.
I am surprised that they didn't pay a "double Silverballer wielding code barred sympathiser " to simply eliminate the threat. In the long run it would probably be a better investment.
Does anyone know of any updates on any of the blackhats that were employed by the companies that they hacked ? Would be interesting to know how things faired.
Every generation has the music it loves and grows up with, mines was the Doors, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Black Sabbath, Leonard Cohen etc etc etc the list goes on and on....
Unfortunately today's generation got Fubarded by the record industry... Miley Cyrus and Justin Beiber.... Do people really want to pirate that...
Whether or not you have a 6 inch 32 core i7 in your smartphone or 1/4 core Athlon, Flappy birds doesn't get any easier.
In other words, the smartphones of today far outweigh the requirements that most users have.
The capacity to have a 5 word instant message communication threads and the lining up of some silly fruits is all that is requried for 90% of the users that I see on the tram ride to and from work. They no longer need to spend 700 euros for this...
Le Weekend - Je t'accord
Le Car-park - Jamais, c'est "Le parking"
"Hebrew and Arabic require learning a whole new alphabet, at least with French he's already got a head start with a (mostly) known alphabet."
Learning a new alphabet is no where near as difficult as most people would imagine. There are after all only 22 letters in Hebrew for example. ( not including the nekadots - the vowels). It has been 27 years since I lived in Israel but even to this day I can still read. ( unfortunately I no longer understand very much of what I can read as my vocabulary is gone through lack of use).
Whereas vocabulary is a massive learning curve as it requires a huge amount of memory. I am at a stage in my life whereby I use French words that I do not know/use in English. My memory no longers affords me the advantage of learning new words in both languages. ( French is my daily language, it has been for more than 20 years).
"Also, Hebrew is fugly",
I couldn't disagree more, here's a little well known song that will help explain my thoughts about the above comment.
"People are strange when you're a stranger,
Faces look ugly when you're alone.
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted,
Streets are uneven when you're down."
Krieger, Morrison, 1967
Yes, the pronunciation is very important and just behind it I would put the nuances of the culture. Word for word translations might be almost usefull for technical instructions but real world language is usually very different.
Genau, Ich mochte Deutchse lernen.
I began to learn to learn German on the 20min ride to work in the morning but I gave it up due to lack of requirement to speak it. I would agree that it appears to be closer to English than French but the logic behind phrase construction is intially quite difficult especially the verbs appearing at the end of a phrase and also the difficulty with having 3 genders. Even after 20 years in France I still dont remember whether some words are masculine or feminine.
"Sorry to ruin your rant but Bill didn't say that French is easy - he only thinks it's easier than Chinese or Arabic:"
Sorry to ruin "your" rant but I didn't comment that Bill said that learning French is easy. My comment was along the lines that learning French is actually more difficult than most people realise. Personally I found Hebrew easier than French and once you know some Hebrew you will find that it shares some elements with Arabic. Learn to count in Hebrew then do the same in Arabic and you will see what I mean.
[I lived in Israel for several years so I do know what I am talking about].
It will be interesting to see how will Cortana will fair in Win 10...
Bill, a word of advice, from experience. it is easier to learn modern Hebrew that it is to learn French.
Je vous assure que Hebreu est plus facile que Francais.
אני יודע, אני חייתי בישראל במשך 3 שנים..
"I expect if that ever happens, they'd just fork the last free version."
That is exactly the situation that is the most worrying, the "last free version" will quickly become unusable on newer phones and I can't see how CM will be able to cope with that situation.
[Ok $70 million gives a lot of coping power but MS is then the Sugar Daddy ]
It was always my understanding that the codebase for CM was the official "Google" provided code.
Won't this piss Google off to the point where the will stop making code available?
Since it is based on the French word "Gai", voila some etymology, in French of course
I will sum up some of the points in the text below.
Historically it appears to stem back to the 11th century.
That which is funny humour, that which expresses gaiety; that which inspires gaiety, a calm and agreeable moment. Bubbly.
There are a few others less connected meaning which are not worth mentioning unless you need to know that it could express Light Green, Yellowish when speaking about soup....
Étymol. et Hist. 1. 2emoitié du xies. « qui est d'humeur riante (en parlant d'une personne); qui exprime la gaieté (visage, etc.) » (Levy Trésor, p. 121); ca 1155 « id. » (Wace, Brut, éd. I. Arnold, 1564); 2. ca 1225 tens ... gais « qui inspire la gaieté, temps agréable et doux » (Durmart le Gallois, éd. J. Gildea, 924); 3. ca 1300 vert gay « vert clair, jaunâtre (en parlant d'un bouillon) » (Taillevent, Viandier, éd. P. Aebischer, p. 94). Peut-être empr. de l'a. occitan gai « pétulant, gai » (dep. Guillaume IX ds FEW t. 16, p. 9 a; v. aussi Levy (E.) Prov.), lui-même issu du got. *gaheis « impétueux » (cf. a. h. all. gāhi « id. », all. jäh « brusque »), provenance qui serait due à l'infl. des troubadours (FEW, loc. cit.), ou plus vraisemblablement mot issu directement de l'a. h. all. gāhi d'où la forme attendue jai (xiiies., Pastourelles, éd. J. Cl. Rivières, CIX, 8). La prédominance de la forme avec g- s'explique en particulier par les interférences constantes entre gai et gaillard (v. DEAF, col. 35, s.v. gai).
Is it even possible nowadays to "not" offend someone, or some group, or some subset of and subset of a tiny proportion of infinitesimally minor range of people.
When we have reduced the language to 16 words and the human brain to nothing more than a slot machine will we then have achieved satisfaction for the Nanny State and it's members.
There might be soemthing in this although not from an AI perspective.
Society is manifesting it's true colours via the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter etc. Conversations are boiled down to 140 or so characters, tiny snippets of miselading information and images of cats...
If society is to be saved then it has to re-start educating itself on something other than the constant stream of drivel upon which it currently feeds.
The phenomenal sums of money available to both of these companies has reached scary levels of everything.
How many companies/startups today have the sole goal of actually bering bought by one of these three giants.
The sums of these three companies is probably larger than the annual GDP of most of the worlds countries.
Something bad is definately going to happen, I just hope that it won't be before I retire and have had a least a few years outside of paying, directly or indirectly, to one or all of these megaopolies.. [Megaopoly is probably not a word but it sounds about right.]
"With this understanding, can you can see why someone with autism who receives an email saying his sexual predilections are going to be publicly announced might respond in the way he did?"
Yes, I can easilly understand the predicament but I would suggest that the email was merely the heat at the end of a very short fuse, sooner or later the bomb was going to go off.
What I think many people fail to see is that the email in question was never intended to cause anything other than personal embarassment, and like most spam messages, was decided to catch maybe 1 in 1000000 people.
In my personal opinion, this guy was one of those "extremely" out on the edge, extreme cases that no amount of protection will ever cover. If it wasn't this email, or an image, or a particular sound then it could have been any of a thousand other reasons that would have pushed him over the edge. We here about teenage suicide for far less serious issues than this.
Like most people, I too have days when certain things get me down, upset or damned angry and I am incapable of predicting the how, why or when they will happen. I will never be able to fully protect myself from all and any future threats, unfortunately this guy's limits were a lot lower than most of us and we will never be able to detect or protect fully for such cases.
If we lived in a world where we understood more about these things and took action against them then we would probably inadventantly create people with even lower levels of tolerence.. Nature has an almost uncanny capacity for adjusting /re-adjusting to our contexts.
"I can only presume... his autism was sufficiently severe that he was a very fragile person."
Yet managed to go to a mainstream school. Unlikely to be "very fragile".
If the Autusim was not severe, then why bother mentioning it in the article.
If this person was not 'fragile', as you infer, then I do not understand how the email/ransomware email had such a devastating effect. Many people receive these damned emails but most people will not commit suicide because of it.
Ok, I will play the devils advocate after being appaulled at some of the comments.
This guy had autism problems, the article does not state how serious those problems were. I can only presume from the poorly reported article that his autism was sufficiently severe that he was a very fragile person.
I personally think that many of the above comments are nothing more than Daily mail readers comments. A psychologist would be forced to admit that a severe autism sufferer is someone in an extremly delicate position and as such requires only the slightest of reasons in order to be pushed over the edge.
By reading the above comments, most notably the one that states that this should be treated as murder, I am forced to realise how many people have succumbed to the principals of the 'Nanny State".
I wonder how many hyprocrits there are in the above El Reg tards, how many of you are happy to support the "Je Suis Charlie" meme and at the same time are capable of condemning these spammers/malware authors as murderes.. Seriously to demand that someone be condemned for murder because of a pathetic email/ransomware email is far more pathetic.
Yes, I agree that malware authors should be punished for the crap that they make people endure but to go the point of putting them on trial for murder is like going back to the "Hunt the Witch" years.
The honest truth of the matter is that this was someone that was already on the edge, was extremely fragile and unfortunately not in a position to handle a given situation.
El Reg has pushed out an 'extremely poor' article using the lame excuse of cause and effect in order to rattle the 'sympathy' vote rather than treating the far more serious issue of autism.
I couldn't give a shit about the downvotes as anyone that does is merely showing his complete lack of desire to understand a problem and providing possible solutions but whi i happy to instead add themselves to the Daily Fail consensus.
Very few if any of the comments actually mentioned this guys illness, instead they chose to play the "I am deeply astounded card"...
This is one of those days when I realise that is actually possible to sink lower than Rupert Murdoch.
How does one determine the correct level gayness of a domain ?
What are the criteria: is it a sexual concept, hardcore concept, rainbow coloured tshirts concept:
The two gays that used to work in my office could not agree amongst themselves what being gay actually meant, so I can't even begin to imagine how the ICANN are making their decisions.
Would be interesting to see what the decisions for the gonzoness of a dot.gonzo would be.
"Free for a year..."
If Wp7Mango is correct in his interpretation then I consider the choice of words "Free for a year" to be a bad choice of words, to say the least it is a very vague statement given the context.
If they had said "Free to install during the first year of launch if you update from a previous version" then it would have been obvious.
"Free for a year" to me sounds like you get to try it free for the 1st year and then you have to pay if you want to keep it.
I can't believe for an instant that MS are willing to give an OS away for free... Something doesn't quite colate here. If everyone with 7 or 8 migrates within the 1st year of launch what revenue can MS expect for the next 5 years ? Will the Service Packs become that catch, will they release a 10.1 vesion that has to be paid for that includes 'extra' features..... I smell fish
What will be the pricing structure once the initial "free" year reaches it's conclusion ?
" Cortana will need to know the person talking to her/it is"
Henece the reason for MS pushing the need for an MS Live account when logging in to your machine.
Occulus etc have a major downpoint, they obstruct your normal vision, ie you no longer see the world around you.
These on the other hand will probably remove the 'claustrophobic' feeling and actually add to realism.
I really hope that they truly work and that this is not just a marketing toy..
Looks cool, if MS really did engineer them then they deserve some kudos for this.. [ almost seems to good to be true]
Did Bill Gates piss on Eric's yacht by mistake or is this an elaborate business strategy designed to discredit MS. Please do not let me believe that this is a ploy to encourage Chrome adoption.
That exploit certainely does not appear to be ScriptKiddie material, at least not for the moment.
"By strange coincidence, the number one Linux distribution is Mint, which is just Ubuntu with a normal desktop interface. Funny, that."
Especially the XFCE version.
"<pedant mode> Surely keeping the alligator there was the offence; the alligator is not a person that can be prosecuted."
What you mean that Alligator is not a recognized gender in L.A.
Won't anyone think of the Alligatoridae.