75 posts • joined 11 Apr 2007
Wow, quite stunningly the wrong end of the stick.
Try looking at it this way and stop assuming this is all about "everyone has it in for Apple" thereby indulging in your persecution complex.
Each Iphone 5C costs about 199 USD to make. Therefore using some of the assumptions in this whole thread, on a normal week there's about a million sold a week. That makes just shy of 200 million flowing through the coffers allowing payment of bills, more phones to be made yada yada yada.
This issue is NOW they have just shy of 600 million USD and it's NOT flowing. It's tied up in phones that have to be paid for, storage of those phones and all the fun little costs associated with warehousing boxes.
Now, who is getting the shitty end of that 600 million I don't know. Knowing Apple and their contracts team I would hazard a guess that the disties are getting it in the shorts and not Apple, but that's just supposition on my part. Regardless, 600 million USD of slow moving/dead stock is a painful number for any company, which makes it a painful mistake, or, if as another poster has claimed it's all some Machiavellian tactic to make shareholders back off, it can be reclassified as a (I believe the business term is) "f**king bad idea".
Govt/Civil Service Vs Anything to do with computers
Seems to be pretty much doomed really... first we had the road accident that is The Year of Code, now we've got Cyberstreetwise....
Also, I note CyberCrapWeb gets 4 million and fusterclucks it, yet a national initiative to teach kids "code" fusterclucks it with only half a million.. Much better value for money there!
Re: Obvioulsy not a jeweler
Sounds reasonable.. and if my numbers are correct..
300 stones with 22.5ct total weight - if they were all diamonds, they'd be about 2.75mm dia each (ish - 0.075ct per), with a height of approximately 1.9mm - so the case thickness would need to be 2mm up to avoid cutting through. Which sounds a bit thick to me... I mean... if this is all done properly and it IS 2mm all round (assuming stones around the sides), we're looking at almost 21cm3 of case material. That's nearly 400g of metal.....
Pi and Education
I'm reading a lot of "this needs to be taught better" and "people need to get involved" yet I'm seeing very few "I've got involved" comments.
Part of the problem we have, and not just with Programming, ALL STEM subjects is we're asking people whose (usually but not always) background, career and qualifications is that of, a teacher, not a professional Tech. It's no wonder that the material we all want/need as industrial bods isn't being taught, because we're not involved!
There's a number of organisations out there, from our own Professional Bodies, eg IET, IMechE, Royal Soc. Eng, BCS, to other groups such as STEMNET and Greenpower, who are all trying to encourage and help get kids into all these tech subjects, but they need our support and help. Code Clubs are great and generally your average school is grateful if they can get some help to set and run these. I personally do work with STEMNET as a volunteer, so go into schools every so often and the response is fantastic. I see regular pleas from schools to help them teach Pi's, sadly not my field so I can't help. Can you?
If we as professional tech heads, be it Programmers, Designers, Scientists etc etc etc cannot get off our butts and enthuse the kids, then please don't be surprised that teachers aren't able to do it, and don't be surprised when the whole gig falls on it's arse because have a bunch of kids who have no idea how to be a techie. Pi's, Arduino's, these are just tools, and like all tools, needs a person to wield it and show others how to.
So, challenge for us all... you believe strongly enough about the subject? Get involved. Find your local STEMNET Rep, approach your kid's school, go to your Professional body, whatever.... just get involved.
Re: @Richard Jones 1 (was: Whatever. Show me the fucking "terrorists" already.)
"Yes, and kids that spend their childhood killing small animals live such fulfilled lives. Giving a 6 yr old license to shoot small animals as they see fit would probably have your child taken in to protective care in any civilized country."
Wtf? Sorry Tom38 but I really am wondering if you shouldn't up your meds!?!?! Teaching kids the correct and proper respect for firearms is not "child abuse" as you seem to be implying. As other posters have pointed out, rob these items of their mystery and glamour and when these kids get older "they ain't cool no more dawg". Also, teaching a child where their food comes from is no bad thing either. Personally I was slotting pidgeons and bunnies as a kid to help the local farmers. These days I am a productive (ie pay my taxes, a lot of taxes) member of Society with no more quirks than those normally associated with Engineers in general.
Back to the article though, hats off to Mr Berger for some quality entertainment and appropriate response to Terrorism - rip the piss.
Oh, and Marvin O Gravel - you owe me a new keyboard mate!
Re: Ah, I get it at last...
>So that's why the peaceful Vikings went berserk and ran around murdering, robbing and stealing when they >arrived in sub-tropical countries like England and France.
I am now beset by the very disturbing image of Hagar the Horrible in a mankini.
I think I may need professional help.
I'm just a simple engineer but....
I love how this has become a "I disagree with the previous post's stance on Climate Change therefore I must assert they are wrong based on my opinion".
Fact - Climate Change occurs, we know this because every few million years in gets rather brisk outside, then at other times it's most definitely more of a shorts and t-shirt millennia. Outside of the Creationist side of the God Squad, no one doubts that.
What we're looking at here is yet another example of flaws in the Doomsday Scenario data that we keep having rammed down our throats as fact, rather than assign them the probability levels they actually warrant. We're looking at Models whose results are driving Political changes, taxation etc and highlighting flaws in how the results are generated, although at least in this case this is inadvertent rather than some of the outright manipulation we've seen in some sources. Surely if you can't trust that results are accurate, how can you "predict" the future with any certainty? By certainty I mean "with enough statistical likelihood that I can put laws, taxes etc etc in place".
I've not read the paper, but in hindsight, I guess it's sort of obvious that if you change the way you calculate your answers and chop and change your resolution, you're going to change the answer between dissimilar systems.
What's more depressing...
a) people are so hung up on a Politician who left our lives over 2 decades ago
b) That so many otherwise apparently intelligent people see fit to voice such disgusting vitriol, such pathetic bile, such base hatred for someone who just died?
Frankly some of the posters on here should be utterly ashamed of themselves. Keep your clinically fucked up opinions to yourselves you staggeringly bigoted rodents. You are the worst kind of social media hogging pond scum I can imagine. Most of you never fucking met her and yet you feel it necessary to spout this kind of hatred? Shame on you. I'd wish something awful on you all but frankly, what can be worse than being the insensitive pricks you ably show yourselves to be?
I'll content myself with Rest In Peace Mrs T, good or bad, you'll be remembered.
Ahh, VM, pack of all out liars
.. and yes Mr Branson, you can try and take me to court for that assertion.
My whole street is cabled by VM, so when I moved in I thought "great", phoned them and spoke to a young chap who ran the post code and address... "no problem sir, you'll be able to have that, we just have to do a site survey before we organise an installation date". Ok, fair enough but then heard nothing. After chasing around I finally got to speak to the guy who did the area surveys who goes away, comes back and tells me to get stuffed (not in so many words, but the same level of interest). Apparently yes, everyone in my street is cabled, including my neighbour, but apparently the cable is laid in such a way that it's not commercially viable to go the whole hog and connect me, the last house in the street.
Fine. Seriously annoying after having been told I could have it, but fine. I understand (dislike but understand).
What I don't understand or like, are the letters personally addressed to me saying "hey, all your neighbours have fibre with us and unlimited superfast broadband, so could you". I get one of these about every month. I'm about to start responding in blunt and needlessly abusive terms.
Wonder if I can class this as harrasment.....
Re: Mmmm. Pies...
"Lewis Page must have a huge amount of pies in his house, with the amount of cherry picking he does."
And yet you support the massive cherry picking and outright lies by Pro "Mankind is Evil" Climate Change theorists?
I'd love to point out the flaw in that but I think I'd be wasting my breath.. or fingers... whichever.
Re: Oh, the sophistication of your whit! You have truly attained new heights of humour!
Oh get a grip Ben 50.
1) Nowhere does the author say "I love cockfighting, I think it's ace" so at no stage does he promote it. In his article he promotes 1970s film making. Yes he says he went to one, but anyone who refuses to experience local culture because "it's wrong" is a narrow minded eijit and a tad judgemental. I'm guessing you've never been on a Fox Hunt, but I'd lay money on you being pro the ban on it.
2) When a "raving foam-at-the-mouth loonie" launches for you and wishes a long slow painful death riddled with the most horrific disease we know... it's only polite to display your contempt. When the world presents you with a toy that requires no batteries, it should be played with.
3) This is the Register, it has journos like Lester and Lewis, I suggest if you don't like their articles you should probably avoid reading them and go off and write reviews for the Christian Action Project or some other such group.
4) You're on fairly shaky territory telling others to grow up.
We here at People Against Total Horribleness & Extreme TormentIng of Cuddly Critters, or PATHETICC for short are horrified at the viciousness of setting Piranhas on Chihuahua.
Piranhas have none nothing wrong and are a lovely animal, unlike those little rat bastard fake yappies!!!
Won't someone think of the Fish?????
Seriously however... awesome response LH but you owe me a keyboard.
Re: Not in the US only
Ok, I think "loyalty" might be a bit strong, but there is a not unreasonable expectation of "not engaging in outright treachery against your employer". Slagging them off in a fairly public place OR making statements "incompatible with your profession where others having naff all to do with your profession" kinda falls into that category, although like many others here I'd love/fear to know where this all stops.
Slightly puzzled and wondering if I have missed something...
So this guy starts his statistical analysis by comparing PCs running Windows to Apple Macs. Ok, this I get and is a fair balance, but he states that the sea change was really when stuff like the Ipod came in.
So he's gone from "PCs vs Macs" to "PCs vs (Macs + Apple Mp3 players)" at a time when it was quite possible for a household to have have 1 desktop/laptop and 3 or 4 MP3 players. MP3 players are an individual & consumable item, I mean this is hardly comparing Oranges with Oranges is it?
IF (and I do mean if) I'm reading that right, to me, as an engineer, that makes his stats and his conclusions utterly bollocks.
Re: Enough bickering you lot...
Maglev Rocket Toboggans!!!
Re: "This is a discovery that could have been and should have been made in America."
"Should have been, because we had the means and ability to do it, we had a good start on doing it, and we used to be the world leader in science and engineering."
Without wishing to belittle Americans but "at one time" is the cry of every Nation on the wane. At one time the UK was the world leader in science and engineering, at one time the UK pretty much ruled the whole world (whether or not it wanted to be ruled, was legitimately ruled or gave a toss about what the British thought is for the purposes of this analogy irrelevant), at one time Rome was a badass place full of the most advanced military the world have ever seen.
Kingdoms and Empires rise and fall, they over reach, become “decadent” and then they cock it all up. Sad fact of life/history. It should not however belittle the stunning achievements of other groups. Besides, of the Physics boffins I know yes, they’d care personally if they were or were not involved, but the whole jingoistic “This Country (tm) discovered it” more or less passes them by.
You may have had the ability (or at least enough boffins) but you did not have the means, eg cash and commitment.
How many circles?
I may not be a bloody mathematician but as far as I can tell there is a f*** of a lot more than 3 overlapping circles in that image.
So aside from being a cetacean blaring loonie, he's also a moron who can't count????? And people wonder why I think the Human Race (tm) is doomed.
Is it wrong to wish a cessation of circular cetacean creations?
The Holy Hand grenade of Antioch.... just to annoy Dept of Homeland Psychosis, I mean Security.
Coffee from a capsule????
Personally I like my Russell Hobbs "Brew and Grind". Chuck in the beans, hit a button and it gets on with the whole damn job for me... I just have to drink the coffee. No plastic crapsules, no nasty taste (unless of course you go for crap coffee) and in the event I run out of beans then it can work as a normal filter coffee machine.
Tea comes from a teapot, not a machine. Except at work, and then it's naff tea.
RE Mectron - "another"
Not sure what is clear about it. One, it's not bound (to my knowledge) by US laws as this act is not commited in the US (and besides, good luck getting the US to sue a major US firm for it's actions outside of the US) , only local laws and two, I don't think it is actually illegal. It's dirty, underhand and vile business practice but not I think illegal. To my mind it's just another example of Coporate Bullying by the leaders in it.
I am sure Apple didn't go out of the way and say "make PCs for anyone but us and will kill your profits bitch", their legal team is much too well paid for that, but there's always more than one way to skin a cat and many of them, in this sort of game, are completely legal. The CEM has the "choice" to make one item over and above another, and it has a "choice" with what it wants to happen to it's profits.
As for Apple becoming verboten within China, ASEAN etc, I think they kind of have enough money to ensure that at a Govt. level that won't happen.
By the way, yes I am massively anti Apple but I am in Electronics Manufacturing so I've seen "similar" behaviour from some places (obviously nothing to this scale) so I sort of get it, I just don't approve as I feel it's an unethical way to behave in life and business.
Regardless of your opinions on personalised plates..
How can any of the comments here ACTUALLY support the DV-Capita owns your ass-LA??
Fact - DVLA sold a product valued at 400 nicker.
Fact - Consumer buys product
Fact - DVLA then criminalise product
Fact - DVLA attempt to recompense Consumer with something valued at the sunny side of sweet FA.
... and you people think that is fine? If they made a mistake and said "look, sorry sir, that should never have been sold, here's your money back" I sort of get it, but at no time does it seem they did. The practice you cretins are advocating here is downright bloody criminal. It's called theft ffs!
If you still think it is fine, then please contact me, I have a pen here that allows intergalactic travel, yours for a cool grand. Should it fail in that I'll happily replace it with a BIC I picked up at TescTroseBury's for 20p.
Blessed are the Cheese Makers
Well it doesn't mean that literally, it refers to all manufacturers of diary products...
Sorry.. but admitted it, I won't be the first, I won't be the last....
Wasn't this discussed in the movie version of High Fidelity?
Book was better, movie wasn''t bad, but I think the line went something like
"What came first, the music or the misery? People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss. Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music? "
I'm sure I can dredge some "research" up from other movies, can I have a grant please?
New force behind the Jesus Phone
Burning in Hell, there's an app for that....
How stupid are some people?
Come off it folks, I'm with the second post here. What is she going to say "Actually we've all got iPhones and IPods"? I can see that going down stunningly well with Bill and the Boys!!!! Let's just hand a howlingly huge PR coup to Uncle Steve of the Apple!!!
Don't be so bloody silly.
The kids probably DO have iPods, but Microsoft cannot afford them to admit it. This is Big Business boys and girls, not Cecil the Carpenter vs Bob the friggin Builder. So quit with this "it's disgusting they're depriving the kids" crap, wipe your mouth of foam and get back to trying to figure out why you bought your iPad.
Ok, I feel better for that rant... just not a lot.
Clearly not Prof Lewis Fan Club meeting
This was the Professor's resignation letter ffs, not a thesis on the subject of Climate Change, hence the lack of science! Resignation letters tend to be emotional, because they're a statement by someone that says "I disagree so much with what's being said/done that I am willing to stand by my principles and sacrifice my job, rather than lend tacit approval to something I believe to be false".
Frankly I admire the guy for sticking to his principle, for better or worse. How many of you can claim such solid beliefs in your knowledge/standpoint?
Whilst I am neither a Denier nor a Believer, I remain unconvinced, but things like ClimateGate, things like this guy resigning with claims of "stifled debate", these are not the first time we've being given the opportunity to question. We've seen so many "Man bad, he change climate" groups back track on figures, seasonally "readjust" numbers and selectively pick the most advantageous figures for their agendas that it is no wonder there are cries of "conspiracy conspiracy".
Oh, and for the inevitable "you're a denier & you'll burn" believers out there - as someone already said Climate Change has become a Religion with Cash as it's god, so like all other religions - sod off and get off my door step you self obsessed smug monkeys.
Oh and as for Mr "their conclusion is unequivocal", please look the word up. Shoddy statistics and a significant percentage of people disagreeing does not make for and unequivocal argument. By your citation "8 of 10 Climate Scientists" are you hoisted - so 20% of Scientists making a living off the gravy train of Climate Change disagree that Man's responsible???
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<Coffee mode on>
A large interest in American Pop Culture does NOT mean they are in favour of it.
Honestly, where do they find these muppets?
POP - Pretty Obviously Purile/Pointless/Pathetic.
Badgers, for no other reason than I like Badgers.
Wow, Eponymous Howard's clearly off his meds....
I deal with patents from time to time and two things about this bother me, and before EH delivers his well reasoned flaming they are...
1) They have used near as dammit a direct UI image copy. It doesn't matter a damn if it is merely an idea or merely one of a set of possible looks. It's in the Patent doc, and Apple WILL use it to beat people with later. If you don't believe me, then you're either naive or EH, or possibly both.
2) They have listed as a function of their patent something that parallels an App that someone has already developed, yet that poor sod is in no position to argue. He rolls over then he loses, he fights, he loses. How is this ethical business? I'm sorry but Apple's ethos of "all about the customer" is a load of balls. This is just big business theiving hypocrisy. Whilst that is the Capitalist world we live in, I just wish for once Apple would be f***ing honest about it, and Apple Fanbois actually bloody acknowledged that some innocent App develop is getting bent over so they can benefit from his shafting. Grow up an accept a little responsibility, you are responsible for creating this monster.
Over to Eponymous Howard for my ritual BBQ-ing. Hit it dude!!!
PS EH - it's a bit iffy to go for El Reg's Journalistic skills when you're clearly a foaming at the the mouth grade lunatic
... sort of see the point but...
I kind of get where the Chief Sky Fairy Prayer Man is coming from, but the entire institution is on kind of a sticky wicket. They're busily jumping up and down telling everyone how they must be respectful and not do anything to upset the Catholic Church whilst simultaneously hiding stuff that has kind of pissed off the rest of the world.
Moral of the story - people in glass houses really should lay off chucking stones. When the Sky Fairy supporters can prove that they really are whiter than Pontifical White (new from Crown, the Papal range "Pope in a Pot", Pontifical White, Ecclesiastical Yellow, Magdalene Maroon, Papal Purple), THEN I'll start listening to their slightly whacky edicts.
Sorry, I digress.....
Mine's the one with the colour matching charts in the pockets
"operating as expected"
I love that term.... so what was "expected"? We thought it'd fly like a turd in a snowstorm and it did... job done, it operated as expected?
Weasly friggin' words used by weasly friggin' people.
Re: If I were the CEO
Ahhhh, cheers CrysXP, I love it when a clueless troll goes off on one like that.
I have dealt with hi tech manufacturing for over a decade, and trust me, you CAN'T replace every soul in an electronics manufacturing facility with a robot. What happens when something breaks? What happens when stuff is "non-standard"? What happens when a process moves out of tolerance? What happens when a machine runs out of a consumable such as solder?
You call it cruel, you call it evolution - I'll call it "cloud freakin' cuckoo land".
Either bugger off and stop watching Star Trek and assuming that's the state of play, or go back to sitting under your bridge bothering billy goats.
So here's a question...
Muppet leaves phone in bar, Fraggle picks it up, goes "Yo, anyone know whose this is?" No answer comes the stern reply. Fraggle puts phone in pocket planning to try and return it.
Fraggle gets home. Apple deactivate the phone, Fraggle contacts Apple, Apple deny the phone exists.
So here's the question - if Apple deny the object exists, how can they then jump up and down and scream criminal behaviour when their "bluff" is called? They refused return of the phone. I also disagree that the guy's approach to returning the phone was "unobvious", but admittedly I don't know the timescales - did Apple deactivate the unit before or after he tried to return it?
If you don't know who owns the phone, have no way of contacting them, who better to ask than the people likely to have User Registration Details?
Interesting article, shame the pro-Apple/anti-Gizmodo bias is quite so obvious, and it's a shame that Apple's ability to influence REACT is so heavily underplayed. Reality is when an organisation the size of Apple says "we'd like you to do x, y, z", heavily underfunded, inresourced groups do tend to listen. It's not just Apple that wields that power, it's any insanely large company.
Who we talking about?
"Oh, no, wait, they're a bunch of money grubbing little shits who annually screw over most of the creative world by charging obscene amounts for their software."
If we swap "software" for "hardware" and then discuss their overly territorial and near psychotic attitude to banning applications, gee, we could almost be talking about Apple.
I could easily turn this into a diatribe about Apple's "we like creativity, providing people create what we say they can, how we say they can. Non Apple Approved Creativity is baaaaddd" rant, but let's face it folks, all companies are as bad as each other. Every organisation is guilty in part or in full of the great crime of "trying to control the market place". Admittedly I feel that Apple is one of the most unpleasent because of it's two facedness, but everyone is guilty, from Car firms, to computer firms to med tech firms.
My advice... get over it.
'copters - 'cos I love 'em.....
Can we have a deadline on banning supercilious Eco muppets from the world of Tech?
Greenpeace - We lie to get our way and if you disagree you're an evil planet hater... and we'll probably cry at you.
To all the "Phone radios are pointless" people
Right you lot.... just because you don't use the radio in your phone, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. Mine is an absolute godsend! I'm in and out of BnB's etc with work and on long journeys, this keeps me happily amused. Love to see a bleedin' DAB with half the quality and half the battery life manage as well as my wee phone does!
I see NO issues with including items like that and the whole bloody business of "editing" the figures is just the latest in the crazed smgheads who run this country deciding there are some junket trips they're missing out on so we have to pay!!!!!
DAB sucks. Technically and practically, it sucks.
... I mean ... wow... and I thought our party political broadcasts were sodding awful.
This chick shredded the hell out of HP (I used to have a bunch of ex HP colleagues and they had nothing polite to say about her), she's widely regarded as the Angel of Death in tech circles and now she's employing dubious, 2nd rate "production artists" to put together shocklingly bad ads of dubious truth????? With seriously lousy actors....
I want they're all smoking.... just not quite so much and not quite as often!
Just for Singer Scientist...
All together now...
Troll Troll trollity troll... etc and so on and so forth....
Muppet. Of all publicly available news sources I rather imagine the average IQ around this publication exceeds the national average by just a tinesy wee bit.
Go sit back under your bridge and wait for a Billy goat... silly man.
Way to scaremonger!
Ok, I'm gonna establish some credentials. I used to work with European Eagle Owls as a Falconer so, I kinda know a little bit
WTF is the Times on about? Ok, MAX, and I mean MAX wingspan is 2m. 1m tall? Is it fuck as like. "Lock up your cats and dogs, there's a killer on the loose"???? God, it's as bad as "it's for the children". These things, are NOT that flaming big, are not agressive unless it's pissed off and frankly they are at bigger risk of dying than of killing.
More commonly these guys are about 1/2m from talon to top of ears and close 1 1/2m wingspan. You want an idea how big, bend your arm at the elbow so your upper arm is vertical, lower arm is horizontal, a big Euro will be able to look in your eyes. Note, a BIG Euro.
They aren't likely to go for anything that is can defend itself and to be brutally honest, they're gorgeous animals, but not too bright, nor too brave, so they're more likely to go for a small injured bunny rather than anything that requires effort.
Can I plead with people to call a local Falconry Centre (if there is one) first before those psychos at the Police or the RSPCA. Get a less than experienced RSPCA guy and that Owl will get injured, and we all know how rational the cops are.
Way to shill for Apple
"Of course, those of us on the outside will sit feeling superior, 'cos we can run any application we like on our virus-ridden, Trojan-infected, malware-stuffed, desktop computers"
Wow, biggest "Shilling for Apple" since "Stephen Fry and the iPad".
Look, not everyone wants to hand full on control of the family jewels to Apple. Just look at the level of puritanical dictatorship being demonstrated by the Jobsian State at the mo'.
We don't all love Apple, we're not all New Media Luvvies, and we're not all running "virus-ridden, Trojan-infected, malware-stuffed" systems. Deal with it, move on and next time, try for a little objectivity.
Blendtec get one!!!!
That way we can blend it, snort it and then just get the f*** on with our lives.
Cheers for the Friday giggles Lester!
Oops... poor English acknowledged
Whoops... ok.. note to self, spell check.
My opinion and sentiment however still stands regardless of Ted's kindly supplied advice.
Oddly enough, it is possible to dislike something intensely whilst actually acknowledging that it's rather suitable for it's purpose.
Here's a question - we're all merrily complaining about iTunes supplying this but how is it different from BBC highlighting pop acts, newspapers giving away free CDs and a million and one other giveaways? We may hate them, but for others they're effective.
I still don't like iTunes however and will never have it on any system owned or run by me. It's called " a matter of principle".
iTunes and Windows
Frankly I'm with Master Krupa here. Gary F1 go away you sad, strange little Fanboi. Windows is an OS, and your Mac has an OS, Slush Kitty or something. ITunes is a crappy bit of equally invasive software. Just because someone doesn't like the iTunes thing doesn't mean that the entire El Reg has a personal yen just to offend your easily offendable sensitivities!!!!
Personally I think this "12 Days of Christmas" thing is probably well suited to it's target audience and will probably do very well. I just thank a diety I don't believe in that I am NOT in that target audience.
@AC4 - Oh no
Look, no one is denying that McKinnon was a bad boy and broke the law. What people are saying is that the poor bastard is going to be skinned alive by a foreign nation in a manner disproportionate to his actual crime.
Worse still we all know this, our Govt knows this and we're handing him over on the grounds that the US said so. For us to try a US citizen we have to have proof, strong proof, before they hand that citizen over. The crime also will have had to be commited on UK soil. For them to "request" us to hand the ass of one of our citizens over the US seemingly needs nothing more than "because we said so".
This guy commited 2 crimes, both on UK soil (one was the hacking, the 2nd was to make the US look like a fool, and in yank eyes there is pretty much no greater crime), so he should be tried in a UK court. Not some bigotted, biased, political agenda ridden US Kangaroo Court.
Mckinnon did wrong, yes, I agree, but the guy is being sacrificed to NuLabour's "political expediency" and the so called special relationship (read UK bent over, US standing behind) between UK and US. Don't be so damn naive to think that UK Govt won't sell the entire population to Satan if it thought it would make for a nice life for them.
Yes this subject makes me angry....
Colour me confused
Ok, so this 50yr old woman set herself up on Myspace as a young boy (ish) - that counts as weird and sad in my book, but crucially, not illegal.
There is nothing in that article that says that this chick did anything other than befriend the girl in an attempt to find out if the girl was being mean about her daughter. Again, a little bit weird and sad, but also again not illegal.
The article DOES state that this 50yr old weird person DID NOT send the offensive message that seems to have triggered the 13yr old to hang herself. So if the Feds want to prosecute someone (which they seem to have a yen for) why not target the cretin who actually said "off yourself" to the kid?
The only crime I can see is one off questionable behaviour and gratuitous "saddo", so why are the first 4 posts on here baying for her blood?
Ding Dong (another) Witch is Dead...
"So, for the time being, we have no-one in effective charge of the government's strategies on ID cards, IMP, smart meters or, crucially, ensuring that Whitehall is up to speed with Twitter and the importance of turning their PCs off at the end of the day."
Now now Mr Fay, don't go confusing everyone. The above applies that someone was in EFFECTIVE charge. Frankly that useless shower of loonies would be hard put to be effective at anything.
The problem is who is Loonie Broonie going to replace this bunch of venal, unethical, butt ugly vermin with? Another bunch of venal, unethical but possibly marginally prettier vermin?
Pirates 'cos I can't see Paris or Bill dancing a jig, but I am getting to see lots of troughing vermin walk the plank!!!!!
Music & Media
Am I the only person confused as to why a psycho robot with a penchant for pretending to mistake a squishy human head for a rock is the Music and Media bit???
Music with rocks in?
Hmm... maybe unbeknowst to us all the machine was actually trying to do us a favour and take out a moron (who doesn't power down large bits of industrial kit when "repairing"???? Morons, that's who...).
Bo**cks to any form of overlords be they Robot or Gordons
The next "Bond Girl"
Ahh, I can see it now.. Frankly (with a silent L) McClueless.
How in the name of all unholies, does someone so god awfully clueless get to be any kind of sppok, whether they be 5, 6 or a nappy wearing SOCA "agent".
Paris - 'cos she'd make a better f***ing job of it.
re: @ AC @ Bonkers AC
What a load of tosh. I do hope making coherent and rational arguments isn't a part of your job AC.
If the guy had a knife, he'd have gone round and killed the family instead, only he'd have done it quietly. As the UK news testifies, it's not bloody tricky to kill someone with a knife. Pretty much anything inside the body is vital and once it's carved up it's bloody difficult to repair in time before the person dies. Stick the blade in, waggle it around and hey presto, something important just got damaged badly
If he not had access to a knife, he could have posioned them, beat them to death, suffocated them in their sleep. In cases like this where some poor schlemel like this loses it so badly he kills his kids, it's the mind that is the issue, not the method he used.
Besides, we have way stricter gun laws and it happens here.
My heart goes out to the relatives... this has to be the worst way to lose people.
To Bee or not to Bee
There's gems to be moderated????
Where???? When????? Bollocks, must have missed it.
Ahh, Ms Bee, that was very cruel and unkind..... and really, really funny :D
I know what it is.....
Ahh, our Sarah is an aesthete and lover of "American Beauty".... good movie if just a tad depressing at the end.....
Anyway, I've no idea why everyone is so puzzled when it's clearly a squadron of flying pigs on a special mission to justify Wacky Jacqui's latest expense claims!!!!
Pirates... 'cos in their heyday they weren't as crooked as a Politician in Nu Britain.
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