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Another 'NSA-proof' webmail biz popped by JavaScript injection bug

Guus Leeuw

Corrections

Dear Sir,

the thing you call Results PDF, merely is a certificate of passing security tests. A results PDF would have info like: Description of test, execution time, results, detailed results in case XPASS or FAIL or XFAIL.

That would also indicate that the tests would be regressive, and that indeed when not using SSys GmbH, one can rerun the same tests.

Different subject: Who scrutinised the tests? They don't seem too clever or inclusive...

Regards,

Guus

PS: I know about the correction link and stuff. I just wonder why I must fire up all sorts of infrastructure just to give an email about corrections... A Webform would be much easier...!!!???!!!

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Manhattan drone pair cuffed for NYPD chopper near miss

Guus Leeuw

Struck

Dear Sirs,

never mind that police reports are always exegarated and never really state any facts, I would hope and assume that the coppercopter has vidfeeds that clearly show the oncoming quadcopter nearly colliding with said coppercopter.

Also, it would seem unreasonable that a flimsy (in comparison) quadcopter can do serious harm to coppercopter. I'm obviously no aviation expert here (or anywhere else for that matter - apart from in my dreams maybe, I don't remember them too often) so I might be wrong to assume that the quadcopter would be demolished by coppercopter without the coppercopter so much as noticing that.

Oh well, police ey...

Regards,

Guus

PS: I opted for the non-word coppercopter instead of copperchopper, simply because writing copperchopper might already be a crime nowadays.

PPS: No, I do not intend for coppers to be chopped

PPPS: Did you see my PPS? Get me off that list!!

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Islamic terror peril hits US giants' phone wallets

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Re: ISIS's name confuses me anyway

have an upvote for the last bit of your post ;) Dark humor always gets me

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You 'posted' a 'letter' with Outlook... No, NO, that's the MONITOR

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Re: But these are actually intelligent people ....

Probably because carburretor doesn't exist as a word...

Oh well ;)

Good point though!

A.D. made a good point too: call things by their name, and be very consistent about that... Then all of a sudden one word has a limited number of meanings, and it will be easy to grasp for everybody...

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Girl gamers sexism row: Top e-sports federation finds reverse gear

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Re: Doesnt look like equality to me.

I like the way you got that one in: "liklihood" talking about females... Well done, Cheshire Cat... !! :)

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Use Tor or 'extremist' Tails Linux? Congrats, you're on an NSA list

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Re: Whither the mission creep?

Uhm? You're not European by any chance? Have no (grand)parents who lived the world wars?

SS patroling the streets? Ever heard of Jewish people being picked up, even though they were well hidden, because some dumbfuck neighbor told some nitwit police guy about the abnormal amount of food the 4 people household next door bought every week? CCTV is harmless! Stasimen/KGBguys following you around the streets? Doing your house up after DDR and Germany re-united only to find about 3 kilometers of tapping wire in your walls??? Mafia guys sitting in your restaurant by the boat load drinking tapwater because you didn't pay protection money?

Dude... Seriously... The tools are different, I'll give you that, but the scope is not creeping at all.

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Re: Whither the mission creep?

Make that 81 and you'd be right... Especially regarding Germany... :D

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Re: Enemy of the State

So then explain the move to Tokyo... You couldn't be further from GCHQ if you wanted... That seems *very* suspicious...

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Re: Terminate with extremist prejudice.

Well sure, but consider what else we would have done with all them babyboomers??? Those kiddies deserved a job, no?

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Guus Leeuw

ll vs ls -l

Dear Kiddies,

do not dispair...

There are no hidden files in Linux, or Unix. ;) There are such files that start with a dot, but they are not hidden, they are simply not shown when one runs 'ls'.

In most Linux installation there's this alias:

ll='ls -l' (sometimes / oftentimes followed by --color=auto)

In good (IMHO) installations you also have the alias 'l.' to show you those .* files only ;)

if you want it all just put alias la='ls -la' in your shell profile and away you go...

seriously, just running 'alias' at the prompt may indeed give you a number of life savers / keystroke savers that you weren't quite aware about...

Regards,

Guus

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Re: they're a spy agency

Dear Tom,

I'd rather think that the point made was along the lines of: If they are allowed to spy on us, then we should be allowed to spy on them. And that is obviously not the case (see posts about unlawful combatants).

Equally getting US spies in front of, say, a German judge will proof impossible, as normally lawful combatants (include the Big Chief Himself) are considered above any law by Themselves.

And that is why, I guess, everybody is up in arms about the whole US... Two rules: one for us (US) one for you...

Regards,

Guus

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'I don't want to go on the cart' ... OpenSSL revived with survival roadmap

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Re Dan 55

Dear Sir,

the linkage of code to a library *cannot ever* take care of precompilation statements in that code.

Just saying...,

Guus

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ISPs haul GCHQ into COURT over dragnet interwebs snooping

Guus Leeuw

Court case

... closed

All in accordance with the law... Ref Patriot Act, ref Communications Data Bill.

Whether we like it is a question the court cannot legally rule on... So: waste of money...

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Cambridge Assessment exams CHAOS: Computing students' work may be BINNED

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Re: Ledswinger

Dear Leds Winger,

Have you looked at the two course works the article is about?

Software development requires "good memories for arcane detail". Otherwise you'll miss a null pointer dereference or you won't free up memory and all that nice juicy stuff.. Also logical maths is not something you can take leaps across... missing a part of the logical computation normally implies that a piece of code is missing, and you derive the wrong result.

How would you propose to fix continuous examination? Just saying that we should do that is not quite good enough for a serious post about the subject... ;)

regards,

Guus

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BT at last coughs to 'major outage' after broadband went titsup across UK on Sat

Guus Leeuw

Few Areas

Dear Sir,

not knowing the full extend of these problems, 2 semi-nationwide areas being affected is the same as few areas being affected, seeing that 2 really is only a few... There were some people in those few areas of which BT knew that they had problems. All the rest (of the people) couldn't shouldn't wouldn't report the issue... So all in all, "some people in a few areas"...

No, I'm a not a spin-doctor, but I've seen so much crap coming out of Gov / Big Orgs that I kinda know what they're saying when they're saying stuff... Also when they're not saying stuff :D

Regards,

Guus

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Boffins untangle why your software builds fail

Guus Leeuw

Consider this

Dear Sir,

since google gave what 26 MEELION records to the data set, the analysis is a bit skewed.

If the main conclusion is that there is a "dependency hell" out of this massive data set, then my conclusion must be that the developers at google aren't all that smart.

Regards,

Guus

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What is it with cloud computing? Engage VM, disengage brain?

Guus Leeuw

Wow :-)

Dear Sir,

unreservedly I agree with you. On the whole, and in detail.

Good job, and about time that somebody points this out clearly.

TheRegister, please make it so that this same article appears every other day as a new article on your site, so that all your MEEELIONS of readers will see it... Make it so that your analytics *knows* who read it (all three pages) and that you, TheRegister, thusly can hassle those readers who haven't bothered *yet*.

Thanks, Trevor,

Regards from,

Not-your-biggest-fan,

Guus

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Microsoft's Online Exchange fixed after going titsup for NINE HOURS

Guus Leeuw
Joke

Re: 2 hours - wimps!

That took all of 10 minutes, then, being a contractor and easily bored...

Yes yes yes me contractor

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Bankers bid to use offshore temp techies

Guus Leeuw

Re: Interesting on who is and who is not on the map....

Dear TopOnePercent,

my remark probably is a bit too straight... Individual shareholders are not at fault here any longer (although they contribute, some more than others; and yes, there are exceptions)... It's the collective gambling that happens with futures of sooo many people that just isn't right, especially when things like jobs are being toyed with.

Regards,

Guus

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Re: Guus Interesting on who is and who is not on the map....

Dear Matt,

Are you at all in an (half) off-shored account within IT? Do you know that Indians (and God bless them, I would do the same) are job-hopping all the time to get a better deal? We've lost 75% of our offshore DBAs just a while ago, simply because Oracle India is prepared to give the "guys" a better deal. There's huge turnover of staff in IT in India. So what you're describing is already happening as it is. So not a big problem.

My point, though, is more about local people being forced out of a job, for the sake of some gamblers making a bit more dough on the side... I, for one, cannot work as a permanent employee: the amount of people I would upset (in untold ways) would be countless... The fact that appraisals are used more of an assessment as to whether or not to fire a person, rather than actually appraise a person just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Now, if my next role is in India / China / Philippines, I'll gladly accept. However that is unlikely because they have billions of people and are ingrained in IT as it stands, so they get the knowledge already, and wouldn't need me, even on local (India) wages.

Similar to Starbucks / Amazon / Google wriggling themselves out of taxpayments and some laws just because they are financially powerful and hence have friends in high places... That in itself doesn't mean that they should be allowed to run rough-shot over John Doe and friends...

Regards,

Guus

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Re: Interesting on who is and who is not on the map....

Dear Mark,

are you serious? The game of politics dictates that you try and do The Right Thing at first, leave it open enough to enter new parties at a later, so that there can be no bad intent at first, because, well, India is not privy to the party. Then when dust has settled, somebody will quietly allow India to become part of the TISA deal, and voila your helicoptered-parachuted 12-month contracted IT "specialists" all of a sudden are everywhere.

While that practise is already happening, Barclays does it for sure, it is in fact not always very legal, in that it utilises some gray areas in income tax law. This regulation will make those gray areas very white and clear.

The downside is that a lot of contractors will be marketed out of the market at first, as they would be way too expensive. At second, a lot of the permanent staff could get in trouble here, because "temp" in TISA will be interpreted as "temporarily onshore" limiting the time to say 6 or 12 months, whereupon there will be a clause that requires people to be offshore for about 30 - 90 days, and then they can come back for more of the 6 - 12 months... So all in all, not so "temp" as the politicians hope it will be.

What I do not understand in all this, and yes I am a migrating / vagabonding IT expert, is that western countries are so willingly giving away everything that made the western countries so great in the first place. Blue collar work: mostly in China nowadays; white collar work: Eastern Europe (Financial Services) and India (IT)... They will give away more and more of what is left (Service Industry) until such point that all the locals are forced to work in Hospitality for all the "temp" "offshore" guys to get food. Oh wait, they can't afford that, so no need for Hospitality business either... Oh well... Hey let's start another war and kill 16 of the 17 million locals... That'll safe huge amounts of money on dole payouts every bleedin' week...

I wish they copped on to real reality, rather than shareholder (gambler) reality...

Just my €tuppence,

Guus

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FBI arrests claims NullCrew hacker in Tennessee takedown

Guus Leeuw

Re: Double standards

Dear Paul,

It's not a double standard at all, Paul.

Government is effectively above the law as government is the law-maker. We also have police and justice which are effectively the enforcers of the law and the guardians of the public respectively.

Now, what nobody really understood is that 2 of the 3 in the trinity are paid by the other one, so the whole idea of separating enforcers from justice from politics / government, really, never had any chance. But it is a nice thing to say to the masses who will not bother.

So, again, it's not a double standard, it's the way the system was designed to begin with. Justice and Police should have their taxation rules so that can exist separate from Government. If that were the case, they would finally become the real enforcers and guardians that they are meant to be...

Until then, no double standards, I'm afraid...

With Best Regards,

Guus

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Splash! Three times as much water as ALL of Earth's oceans found TRAPPED underground

Guus Leeuw

Re: Yawn....

Dear Geezer,

are you by any chance suggesting that the Government of the UK should do something to benefit its people? The thought only could get you extradited to the US on terrorism charges, you know. I would post anon if I were you.

Seriously: Too right you are, sadly enough

Regards,

Guus

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Re: Re Christoph: Equilibrium?

Dear Sir,

not necessarily so, unless one would argue the Neptune lived that in the sea, or that uhm whatshisnameagainwiththedingyboatandthedog - Charon - is that deep in the Earth.

I would assume we have finally found a way to stop these annoying volcanic outbursts, earthquakes and tsunamis: If we drain this layer from the lubricant is apparently has and fill it with superglue, that oughta stop all sorts of tectonic moves (preventing earthquakes and tsunamis), and in turn it will stop volcanic eruptions (as the plates don't move, lava can rise, and therefore volcanoes can't errupt).

Let's do this, as there surely are no consequences of humans tampering with systems we don't fully understand!

Regards,

Guus

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The cute things they say

Guus Leeuw

Re: Boot, other foot

But this is true!

My uncle, a certified electrician, taught me this when I was a kid:

He: Where does the light go when you switch it off?

I: I don't know...

He: Check the fridge!

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Google: Why should we pay tax when we make 'intangibles'?

Guus Leeuw

Re: Evil?

Dear Sir,

"Don’t be evil. We believe strongly that in the long term, we will be better served — as shareholders and in all other ways — by a company that does good things for the world even if we forgo some short term gains"

as quoted from the Google IPO manifesto back in 2004...

By that standard, dodging taxes is evil.

Regards,

Guus

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Torvalds hits 'Go' button for Linux 3.15

Guus Leeuw

Re: Come on El Reg!

Dear Sir,

there's a marked difference between an Operating System and a full suite of software that is actually useful to humans.

An Operating System has the job of managing the underlying hardware platform in such a way that certain tasks can be scheduled, memory can be managed, IO operations can be performed. This is, what one would call, the kernel.

That Microsoft calls Windows an "Operating System" with the obvious implication that the "Operating System" includes a graphical user interface and all sorts of software (calc, notepad, whatnot) is OK with me, but that in itself doesn't mean that an Operating System is anything more than a kernel that manages a well defined set of tasks.

See Tanenbaum, the ultimate master of teaching Unix and Operating Systems...

Regards,

Guus

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Global mobile roaming network a HOTBED of vulnerabilities

Guus Leeuw

Re: Maintenance costs money

Dear sir,

And there you have it.

Working in outsourced IT environments, I often hear Service Managers say that such-and-such infrastructure improvement cannot be done, as it is not paid for under the contract. Even if it is very clear that systems are unnecessarily vulnerable.

The customers don't want the additional cost, and the service provider isn't gonna pay for it out of their own pockets...

The sad story that is outsourced IT... (And I'm not talking about offshoring! I'm talking about outsourcing!!)

Regards,

Guus

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Samsung WRISTPHONE – for those who wanna whisper to strap-ons

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So memoryloss, and a very unimaginitive brain is what it takes to become a regreporter?

Dear Sir,

may I point out that the obvious way to hold a wristphone, would be euhm, around one's wrist? So holding the device would be very similar to the other thingy on the wrist watchammacallitagain euhm ... dum dum... oh! watches :)

And the unknown contortions to operate such device, probably if not most likely involve using the hand attached to that wrist which doesn't have the phone, to punch miniscule buttons on the phone (on the other wrist)... Do you remember way back when digital watches came out and there was a brief spell, maybe 2 years, during which watch makers attempted to cramp as many buttons on a watch as they could so that the watch could double as a wristcalculator (not to calculate one's wrist, but the be a calculator on a device that is worn on said wrist).

Now either you don't know about these calculator-watches and that's ok, but not having the faintest idea of how one would hold the device is rather a mistery to me.

Text editing isn't too difficult either: Not too long ago we had phones with 12 keys, neatly positioned in four rows of three keys each. Certain letters (3 per key) were associated with certain digits. The phone would have logic to figure out that 2662 could spell bomb or amoc or some such. Long-presses on the keys would reveal accented equivalents of the letter associated to those keys...

Now try scratching your right arm pit with fingers attached to your right hand. Those are unknown contortions!!!

Cycling time,

Guus

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NOT APPY: Black cab drivers enraged by Hailo as taxi tech wars rage on

Guus Leeuw

Dear Sir,

to be brutally frank, TfL could stop Hailo from associating itself / its app with private hires completely, and it would be fair to do so: The only type of car service that is hailable (is that a word? It is *now*) is in fact the black cab or the taxi as TfL calls them.

I quote (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/large-print-taxi-and-private-hire-guide.pdf):

"Taxis (black cabs) are the only vehicles that can be hailed on the street or at designated taxi ranks."

"Private hire covers a wide range of services including minicabs, limousines, executive car services and chauffeur driven vehicles. All minicab and private hire journeys must be booked with a licensed private hire operator."

Is hailo a licensed private hire operator? Then I'm afraid you can't use them to get a private hire... While hailo is getting bigger and badder, they should stop short of actually breaking the law / rules of their trade.

I love hailo. They're grand, especially here in Dublin.

Just my €tuppence. hehe

Regards,

Guus

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"Perhaps the cabbies don't wish to carry all the paraphernalia" - the mobile phone, you mean?

Have you been in a cab lately at all, or are you just making assumptions?

hailo, taxi app, uber, they all have (on the driver function side) a debit card payment system. All of them. Any cab driver can use them at free will...

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Re: Monopoly

While the poster got charged for the time it took to get lost, you, dear oddie, mention the fact privates only charge for distance. hmm... So while you're on route to somewhere and you get lost going there, does that not imply some form of detour? Surely the taxi meter in the private hires is running off the odometer in the car, or based on GPS, so there must be some sort of pay for getting lost based on mileage. Or? Not?

Hmm... interesting point of view... Even you got upvotes... :D

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Re: Showing their true colours

Excuse me, kind sir, but what violence did they resort to?

The tense stand off violence?

The no violence that the spokes person mentioned?

Or the unbased violence that this joke of a reporter mentioned?

Pick one, please!

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Cisco reboots PC with $1500 'Scandafornian' Android fondleslab

Guus Leeuw

And there you have it: A brilliant idea leaked like nothing else without any form of patents applied to it:

Do you remember those keyboards that did not exist, and you could just tap on the table, pretending there was a keyboard? A webcam thingy and some logic, and the computer could deduce what you were typing without actually needing a keyboard.

Surely, one can do the same with the screen... just pretend there's a fondleslab on the table, train a cam on it, and let some logic decide what the user is going to do.

Ok, admittedly, this is bad for people like me who listen to music and play airdrum every so often, but I guess you get out of that habit pretty quickly :)

There... for free... :D

Regards,

Guus

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Google Maps can now tell cyclists how HIGH they will get

Guus Leeuw

Re: Appears to be a US thing

Thank you, refined chap. Road cyclist for 35 years, and I indeed thought that mountain bikers don't stop for anything...

Thank you again for taking the time to explain.

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Guus Leeuw

Re: Appears to be a US thing

Dear Sir,

riddle me this: "mountain bikes may need to slow down a bit more for corners." (compared to what has been termed a dedicated road bike, not sure how a road bike can be dedicated, but there you go).

Thank you,

Guus

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OpenStack kingpin Rackspace hires bankers to help it mull 'inbound strategic proposals'

Guus Leeuw

Sorry to hear that

Dear Sirs,

I've used Rackspace now for the last 6 or so years. They are really fanatical about support and uptimes. Over the course of six years, only twice has a virtual server of mine had a problem due to underlying hardware failure. Outage due to hardware over the 6 years has been within the space of 1 hour... Really really incredible...

When support was needed to action something for me, they got onto it straight away. Raise a ticket, and go onto the chat and mention the ticket number, you're helped within the hour. I can't see HP/IBM doing that for small companies that value service for money.

If Rackspace is going to be bought, I sure hope the new owners will be made aware of the value of the support Rackspace delivers and that that is a big part of why Rackspace has a space amongst the rackers...

Just my $0.02, €0.02, or whatever currency your tuppence comes in these days,

Guus

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Samsung issues 'deep apology' to cancer-hit semiconductor workers

Guus Leeuw

Re: Wouldn't it be better...

@Simon,

Of course I don't know, but I would reckon that out of Samsung's workforce, probably far less than tens of thousands work in the semiconductor ovens / labs...

Maybe time to stop using Samsung phones and use iPhones? Oh no... they are built by kids... hmm Ascend P7? Probably built by Foxconn kiddies as well... now what? no phone?!!

Guus

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Senate slams ad servers for security failings

Guus Leeuw

Re: Better yet

Install web browsers with adware blocking addons / plugins installed and enabled

There, fixed that for you.

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Google Maps adds all UK public transport timetables

Guus Leeuw

Dear Sirs,

I, for one, applaud google on this endeavour. I have used this service for about 3 months now in Dublin, and it is just wonderful. Quick, easy, and way way better than all the apparazi out there have come up with in the past.

Thank you, google. But *only* on this one!

Regards,

Guus

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Powershell terminal sucks. Is there a better choice?

Guus Leeuw
Headmaster

Dear Harmony,

May point out that I am at an utter loss as to why you don't know how crappy the default Powershell is? Reason being that you are "teaching yourself" Powershell, so you must have, by definition, come across Powershell when you learned it...

Or maybe Harmony is the handle because of the three people living inside: the one who learned and can now teach, the one who needs to be taught, and the one holding the other in Harmony...

Interesting case, nevertheless!

Regards,

Guus

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A first-world problem solved: Panoramic selfies, thanks to Huawei's Ascend P7

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Re: Truisms Spoken Aloud

Now, now, Martin...

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Reg probe bombshell: How we HACKED mobile voicemail without a PIN

Guus Leeuw

Re: Why spoof

Hi Simon,

Sky box spoof ? I had a Sky box in the UK for nearly 7 years, and all but 1 year, it was disconnected from the phone line, because BT couldn't figure out how two incoming business lines could be packaged with a third (domestic line) so that the sky box had it's own number... Sky didn't care.. You just can't do certain things like online account checks etc, and box office movie ordering, which happen via the modem... (You can still get Box Office: Just ring Sky yourself :))

Supposedly(!!) it would be easy to figure out where the Sky box is... Surely the comms protocol between Sky Satelite and Sky Box / Dish do something like a hand shake (How else do they deliver box office movies, after you personally called Sky, or do set top box upgrades without phone line?), and from that handshake sky should be to deduce where the machine is, should it not? (Satelites are sort of line-of-sight communication devices, aren't they?)

Having a PABX seems to be a bit of overkill... Just remove the Sky box from the phone line, and Bob's your uncle...

Regards.

Guus

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Both Three and EE fail, in my opinion for the same, or at least a very similar reason: They are hiding behind PR spin that quite simply indicates that they did not even fully understand the impact of the accusation... Or they did, but try to have a stupid answer that will satisfy most of their customer base...

This is what happens when you do things on the cheap, like Three... Not sure about EE and doing things on the cheap, but clearly their investments aren't there where they should be...

Just my two cents,

Guus

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Why ever leave home? Amazon wants to turn your kitchen into a shop

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Joke

Re: Computer says no

Dear Hagglefoot,

I would patent that if I were you... You're onto something there for quite a number of people already!

Regards,

Guus

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I QUIT: Mozilla's anti-gay-marriage Brendan Eich leaps out of door

Guus Leeuw

Re: Baker quits Mozilla as well

Also, Trevor, this was not about equal rights, but about gay marriage, which is only a small part of equal rights.

And since gay marriage rights should be universal, my statement is meant on a global scale... And on that scale, I think, pro-gay would still be a minority. If it were not a minority, why are they still fighting for their rights? :) Q.E.D.

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Re: Baker quits Mozilla as well

So, Trevor, thusly it means that whatever we do today, independent of any possible outcome of our future (that which we cannot see!!), in 6 years time it will hold us to ransom?

Nah, I don't think so :) Common Sense dictates that this cannot be, otherwise our fate is predetermined. And even though I'm Dutch, I don't take the Calvinist approach :)

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Baker quits Mozilla as well

Dear Sirs,

from Michell Baker:

"Our culture of openness extends to encouraging staff and community to share their beliefs and opinions in public"

But when they actually do share their beliefs in public, freedom of speech is not wanted...

"While painful, the events of the last week show exactly why we need the web. So all of us can engage freely in the tough conversations we need to make the world better"

So without free speech it is better?

The guy has an opinion. It's not a fashionable opinion, but it's his opinion. And because a minority with a very loud voice thinks his opinion is wrong, he must go? Democrazy at work...

Wouldn't it be better to let the guy's personal beliefs be his personal beliefs? Eich is not Mozilla, nor is firefox anti-gay because of a $1000 donation way back when to a proposition (and law) that never really stood a chance... Or even let him handle the mudslinging contest privately as a private person, seeing that 6 years ago this was his personal opinion voiced publically?

Just my opinion,

Guus

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David Cameron defends BT's taxpayer-funded broadband 'monopoly': It's a 'success story'

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Re: Success Story Eh?

Dear Tyrion,

"This is the reason I don't vote. I don't support the currently representational paradigm. Get all these career politicians out of decision making."

It would be better to actually protest and vote blank...

Just saying,

Guus

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Re: 10,000 a week

Hi Andrue,

The classic broadband package is not overly expensive, I agree. The required telephone line (which is really the infrastructure), is expensive: £50 each 3 months...

Still, on the pure broadband, many many companies out there do it cheaper than BT. O2 did it for £12 a month... More bandwidth than BT as well...

I have nothing against BT as a company, but the organisation seems to profit from things that other telco's just can't lay their hands on, and making the tax payer pay twice for infrastructure upkeep is just one of those things...

Regards,

Guus

Regards,

Guus

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