2976 posts • joined 25 Mar 2008
I see the MS astroturfers are hard at work.
The UK supports MS and only MS
The UK supports, nay, forces MS on users. It makes sure that MS products are given to schools (either free or at heavy discount). Laptops given to schools carry the MS infection with them.
People are taught how to make MS products do this or that, not how to use a computer.
Exams are set that can only be passed by using MS products.
So, in the UK at least, the government does not support F/OSS, has never supported F/OSS and probably never will.
That will explain why all their major IT projects have been such successes. Hmm.....
No apologies for strong language
In two words: Fuck that.
It's all very "Ghost in the Shell" if you ask me. Quick! Best get those attack barriers in place in case of a back-hack.
Love 'em or hate 'em...
...you have to give kudos to Apple for the way they can manipulate their customers and whip up a media frenzy.
(Sod the iPad, gimme a wePad or whatever that Chinese one was called.)
Or use another mail service, it's not as if Google has a monopoly or antyhing....
H.264 is open...
...but patent encumbered and you need a license if you are encoding for anything other than personal use. At least that is my understanding.
And sorry to burst your bubble, but OGG.Theora is inferior, it is based on tech that precedes H.264 by a good few years (OGG.Theora is base on On2's VP3 codec, they were at VP8 when Google bought them: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/20/google_nabs_on2/).
Why choose H.264? Hardware support, pure and simple. None exists for OGG (Theora or Vorbis) and there is plenty floating about for H.264 (and MP3). This makes the encoding/decoding a much easier proposition. Xiph simply isn't in a position to bargain for OGG Theora/Vorbis hardware support, and there is not point in using OGG as there is no hardware support. Chicken, meet egg.
It would be nice if OGG won (and even nicer if Google released VP8 under irrevocable license), I won't argue that. But I fear it won't happen. Vested interests, money and shafting the consumer once again are much more important to Google et al.
...exactly. And I use the fox!
Smart meters aren't here (yet) in the UK but the poster is right, they will be able to control power consumption (switching off non-essential items when demand spikes to smooth out the load). That's before we even consider how long it will be before these meters get hacked and what (if any) recourse consumers have against incorrect billing.
The same mentality can be see again in the Labour (and Tory?) backed policy of having a remote system control the speed of your vehicle. This is what the Galileo satellite system is for.
This is the same mentality that is giving us mandatory ID cards, the DNA database and the CRB check idiocy (not so much the idea of a check, but the crazy way it has been implemented).
Tin foil hat maybe, doesn't make them wrong though.
DAB quality is crap.
DAB coverage is crap.
DAB sets costs more.
DAB takes more to manufacture.
DAB sets draw more power.
DAB means millions of (perfectly good) radios going to landfill.
I thought we were all mean to be saving the planet or something?
I wonder how many of our fearless leaders have shares in companies with DAB interests?
And why have the gone proprietary, DRM-lock down on their media? Cutting out many users who were watching their content quite legitimately and inconveniencing those who break the law not one bit.
The BBC may have some of the best shows on TV, but they really need taken down a peg or two.
The internet has adverts?
Guns don't kill people
Bullets do, aided by the person who pulled the trigger.
Drug patents do not allow people to die. They're just a piece of paper.
Abuse of the patents and profiteering allow people to die.
Will you be doing stand-up any time soon? Some of your come-backs are total class!
The only models they offered were cripple, not marketed and hidden on their website. MS probably told them to do that to so that they could continue to say that sales of Linux boxes weren't worth it.
But that wasn't really my point.
They should be compelled by law to offer a "no OS" option. What we have now is more like an MS led cartel.
MS told them to
As a consumer, it is not possible to by a PC from any of the major OEMs without buying Windows.
I know you might find a page or two should that, say, HP sell a SUSE laptop; but you can't actualy buy it.
Offering one crappy netbook (as Dell does) is not an option either.
It's time the EU looked into this and forced the OEMs, at the very least, to offer a no OS option.
If they did...
...then I think people would twig just how evil Google are being.
Actually I might consider it if it was advert free. If I read the Times in the first place...
In a few years time...
...it will be an "internet license" or something and cost £10 or more (on top of your ISP contract). The money (like most taxes) will not be hypothecated and will simply keep MPs in champagne and fois gras.
You read it here first.
@What's wrong with bipedal locomotion?
"and everyone can do it."
You sure about that?
The Segway looks fun 'n all and the self-balancing tech is definitely cool. I can (maybe) see a use in warehouse etc, if it is more efficient than a buggy...but everywhere else? Don't see it. For those who can walk...get a good pair of shoes/boots and walk!
What is this Segbike like under hard braking? Think I stick to wheels front 'n rear ta muchly. Might interest the NABD though!
Having just gone to both sites...
...it seems they even use the same pages.
Something smells off about this.
Better marketing, that's all.
As the first post points out, even the "Super" key has that weird, squiggly squares symbol on it.
It's probably just some money men (who know diddly about computers) bought the rights to the name, bought a license to distribute and now have this "new" Commodore.
Maybe it will be a success, maybe it won't.
...a good for cooling. And. Err. Umm. Yeah.
One of these "PC in keyboard" things with some kind of wireless connection to a TV/monitor would be good. You could then hide that tower in the closet and have it do all the heavy-lifting (transcoding, broadcast recording, media serving etc).
I want more money so I can buy more toys...
Moan all you want, but we are just going to have to take ACTA up the wrong 'un.
Civil Servant: Minister, here is the first ACTA related bill for you to sign and make law.
MP: Some of this seems a bit off; a bit much.
CS: Negotiations went on for years minister. Everyone agrees.
MP: Oh, why wasn't I there?
CS: Secret negotiations minister.
MP: So who was there?
CS: The stakeholders minister and few representatives for the interested countries.
MP: "Stakeholders"? What, members of the public?
CS: No minister, the MAFIAA and other groups.
MP: So why do I have to sign this?
CS: It's all been agreed. The whole world agrees on it. if you don't sign it, we will never get an agreement like this again. You'll be against free trade. No one will trade with us.
MP: And what will it mean?
CS: Continued profits for the members of MAFIAA et al. But you can dress it up as "Less pirates selling porn to kiddies". The Daily Hate will love that.
MP: Won't there be public outcry?
CS: Not really, we'll do it bit by bit. Then in a few years we will just say the new ACTA bill simply harmonises and streamlines what we already have in place.
MP: Really can't see the public liking this.
CS: As you often say minister "Fuck the proles, show me the money". You will, of course be invited to all the upcoming ACTA conferences around the globe. First class travel, the works. I am sure you could be head of a few steering committees or the director of a consultancy related to this as well. You won't even have to declare it as an "interest"; I'll see to that.
MP: Jolly good! Where do I sign?
@Sarah - Is it better
Now, now petal. Do be a love and don't get your feathers all ruffled. It's just the trolls trying to pick a fight, flower. Alright me dear?
But then you will feed them! :o)
[Did I squeeze enough colloquialisms in?]
Umm..."female" is a noun (and an adjective). I guess it's a bit formal (sounds like a police report, "And then the female in question did....").
What say we call her "the woman with the whoppers"?
[I am soooooo going to get banned!]
It's all lies! How do we know? "[Laker] pressed a button to take a revealing photo". See? LIES!
We were told by our MPs and the manufacturer that these machines cannot take pictures, so this bint is lying.
She must be.
Our MPs wouldn't lie to us, would they?
Why do companies insist on storing personal data unencrypted? FFS.
Fine them £1,00 per breach. That's £46,000,000. Should help the budget.
Start making the outer casing of fibre cables with a "No copper" symbol.
Yeah, and security by obscurity works sooooooooo well.
I get these...
...even though I am registered with TPS. They are a total pain in the arse. And the bastards block their number too - that should be illegal for any company using auto-dialers. If I knew their number I could report it and request a block (at the offender's expense).
This fine is pointless as we all know it will not be applied and it is just to easy for these companies to avoid any censure (mostly because the have enough wonga to grease the right palms).
@Mods hate me
No apology forthcoming, there is still no link to a page where a consumer can buy a PC from a major OEM either naked or with a non-MS OS. I know there are landing pages for business customers, but they lead no where if you want to buy on-line.
Dell's singular offering does not count as a real choice in my book.
That leaves Joe Schmoe with no viable choice other than Windows (tech savvy users can always get what they want (either going to a niche retailer or DIY), but I am not thinking about them).
Don't misunderstand; I want to be proven wrong, I want people to have a choice, I want to issue that apology/thanks for getting a link.
It's not happened yet.
And yes, I have been looking too. I can find Linux systems from other sources, but again that is not what I am talking about. I am pretending to be the average consumer going to the "household names". When you do that it Windows or nothing.
@Not so smart, are ya?
Thanks for proving me right. Those links go no where. Yes, the first page shows SUSE for some notebooks. Now, click on the clink for one of them (say the 4710s), SUSE no longer an option. So then you select "All models". Still no SUSE.
I can't find the page where I can actually BUY this laptop.
AND this is appears to be a business device.
This is exactly what I was going on about - thank you again for helping me prove it.
Caught you out Steve.
I just did as you suggested - no results (beyond a few components).
C'mon Steve 44, put your money where your mouth is and show me the hard links (UK site, consumer device, any Linux distro, direct from HP, Sony, Tosh, ANY major OEM).
Or I can only conclude you are in serious error with reality.
Show me the links
C'mon, so me the links. I ahve asked time and again on here for links to the ACTUAL PRODUCT and NO ONE can provide them
I know the HP is a lie, because I have tried. Yeah, you'll get Google results but they go no where, or they vanish into the quagmire of USA business account handling. Urgh. UK site, consumer device; prove it.
I would LOVE to be wrong.
Oh, and those links?
Show them to "proper" systems, not to the single, crippled version of some netbook that they may sell as a pathetic PR stunt.
I agree completely. By and large the choice on all PCs should be
- No OS
- Windows flavour(s)
- Linux flavour(s)
The first one is THE most important. I can live without the other two.
"Its like buying a new car, then a week later asking them to take the seats back because you've decided you don't like the colour, and have found the ones you want at another dealer."
Another bad analogy. The problem in the consumer PC market is that all the seats are blue, for every major manufacturer. THERE IS NO REAL CHOICE! Dell offer NO REAL CHOICE (one shitty netbook does not count). Nor to HP, Toshiba, Sony etc.
I'll type this slowly so people can keep up.
...let the consumer make it. Anyway, the burn in tests will be done from the "support" partition they image on to the drives. Only a complete moron would remove that as tech. support will want you to have gone through some tests to get error codes etc for hardware issues.
Still no need for the machine to be infected with a full Windows deployment.
@Just buy the Ubuntu vesrion
My, that is a viable choice for the average consumer!
...ONE crippled netbook. That's it. THAT IS NOT A CHOICE!
And it is the previous LTS.
When I can select (just about) ANY Dell product and choose a non-Windows OS as an option (with appropriate cost saving) then we will have choice. Until that time THERE IS NO REAL CHOICE.
Now kindly shut-up and stop astroturfing for MS.
They sell ONE crippled netbook. That's it. IT IS NOT A VIABLE CHOICE!
Show me where I can simply switch the OS from Windows 7 to Ubuntu in their customise dialog.
I know you can't.
A very bad analogy
Audi will have designed your mirrors and written a spec on how they should work. A contractor (or Audi) will then have made them, and the components that make them up. Same goes for every single piece of the car. Audi write the spec and either make the part, someone else makes the part or someone finds an off-the-shelf part that meets the spec.
This is not the same with PCs.
MS are demanding that you have their OS on any PC. Beyond a few very small players, you cannot buy a PC from an OEM without Windows. If I go from Dell to HP to Toshiba to Sony to Acer, I am forced to take Windows. In the car world if I hate Ford engines (say) I can buy Toyota and get a Toyota engine. You just cannot do this in the PC marketplace (business accounts are different, we're not talking about them). It is not possible to choose another vendor and body-swerve the MS Tax.
If you want to stick with the car analogy, consider the radio. There's usually a choice, heck BMW used to spec sans radio! That's the kind of choice we want and need in the PC marketplace.
You only get choice from the minor vendors (e.g Morgan in the car world). They can and will meet whatever spec you desire, but you may have to pay a higher price or suffer some inconvenience (less support, less locations, longer delivery time etc etc; not always the case though).
Dell are, IMHO, wrong not to offer the refund.
MS are IMHO wrong to force vendors to sell a PC with Windows, vendors should be allowed the "no OS".
People who bash others for wanting the FREEDOM TO CHOOSE are wrong.
The USA does not have the balls to step-up to this, so let's see the EU do what's right for consumers and ensure a fairer marketplace.
Cue the MS shills...
They should. (I can rise to the same level of argument.)
What is the reason for your stance? Mine is that we need consumer choice and we don't have that at the moment. The major OEMs all force you to have Windows and to pay the MS Tax.
...System67 (USA, but they will ship I think) and Frostbite Systems (USA only). And probably any semi-decent PC shop where they employees actually know their stuff. They don't need to know Linux per se, they can just give you the naked PC.
HTML, dotNet, Java etc; these are tools. When I hire a joiner, they do not charge me for their saws etc (well, not directly). They charge me for materials, but mostly they charge me for knowing how to use said materials, what materials and how to approach a piece of work.
That's what I pay for.
If a joiner said I needed to pay $n for a special saw because it was the only thing that would cut a certain material, I'd be off getting a new joiner!
It's a different (better?) way of thinking and working.
They will support enough HTML5 to crow about how much they work hard for standards. But not enough to actually do anything. Cue web devs/designers tearing their remaining hair out trying to get stuff to work in IE9 like it does in Opera, Firefox, Safari, Chrome... A bit like IE6 really (which we'll *STILL* have to support anyway...)
MS will slowly steer people towards Silverlight as it is more "feature rich" and "cross-platform", thus locking companies ever more into the MS world and preventing competition.
Extend (...perhaps Evade or Exchange in this case?)
We have been here before. We should remember our history (actually, our present. I'm looking at you, IE6).
Either they get with the program and support the standards in their entirety (c'mon, if ickle Opera can do it, surely it's not beyond the might of MS; hell, they could even just use some FOSS modules) or it is all just PR bullshit.
There is no proof...
...and we should not leap to some complex and fantastical conclusion when something more prosaic (and as yet, unknown) may be lurking. Waking dreams, weather phenomenon, etc. The universe is strange enough without inventing more crap.
As for the price gibe....you did see the ":oP" didn't you?
3 times the price?
Not really. When I looked at them I'd say they were (give or take) about right, but the tag appears to be about 1.5 times the cost of a similar Windows laptop (it will vary from OEM to OEM). You have to consider the build quality (which I am told is good) and thus discount all the low-end makers (e.g. Dell), then you have to consider the nVidia graphics card and other hardware spec (and discount entry-level machines) and finally consider the after sales support (which I am told is good).
So maybe you do appear to pay "over the odds", but you get what you pay for to a large extent I think.
I didn't by a Mac in the end...I decided I didn't need a laptop after all.
There are no ghosts, spirits, phantasms, aliens*, alien spacecraft*, no alien abductions or any of that crap. It's all in their head.
Unexplained != Trans-dimensional Beings from the Dark Beyond (or whatever)
I guess if you are deluded enough to believe in that crap, you are deluded enough to pay through the nose for a basic laptop. :oP
*Well, not here anyway
H.264 is an open standard and there is hardware acceleration available for it. Using Ogg would be a retrograde step.
Sure, you have to bend of and take it up the wrong 'un from the Patent Pixies; but is that so bad?
Hmm...why yes....it is.
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