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@James Hughes 1
"I'll check on the multiple order thing - if Farnell are doing that then they are breaking the contract."
I know of at least one person who did a bulk order through Farnell. Just 2 units, and that's for pre-orders.
Maybe that's OK, I don't know, I haven't seen the contract. But it is a further lack of consistency and is confusing to people with small brains (like me). If there is variation, you should make that clear and get your sellers to make it clear too.
Just how hard would it be for Farnell to say "Prices include shipping, only bulk pre-orders allowed" (or whatever the rules may be)
Re: Re: @Jason
RaspPi != Beagle Board.
Unless you can show me a Beagle running Fedora/Debain, playing Quake and video.
I will agree it lacks peripherals (e.g. keyboard) as standard, but these are basic USB units that are easy to add.
Re: Re: Re: @Bin Yin
Thanks for the clarification! It was really not obvious on their site (wish I could edit my post now)
On the site there are prices for 10+, but as the site is on i's ass just now it's kinda hard to test out.
Still, it's just another thing that adds to the confusion.
(Tiny brain, me)
Re: @Bin Yin
"2) Prices should be exactly as advertised for the last 9 months - $25 and $35. (although Model A now has 256MB ram)"
Sorry, wrong. Farnell is now £26.55 (US$42). Tax may be payable on top of that.
(Their site is currently off-line)
"3) Farnell's agreement says they are only allowed to sell 1 board per person of this batch. If you can buy more then Farnell have made a mistake, not the Foundation."
Their site allows 10+ orders.
"5) This is a launch. By what definition is it not a launch?"
Both sites only allow pre-orders. Their site makes that perfectly clear "Model going into production immediately". Not built, can't be sold, not a launch. End of.
Re: F**king Farnell
Indeed. Tranche 2 will probably been even more expensive as they exploit supply/demand. I doubt RaspPi has much control over what they charge. So that's now US$42 for a model B (probably nearer US$50 as I don't think those sites include VAT).
Epic PR disaster
1) RS don't tell you which model you are registering an interest for
2) Farnell list the model B under two different prices (and seems to be 20% more expensive than RS)
3) Farnell will let you buy up to 10 (so much for one customer, one board)
4) The units are available to be shipped
5) This was not a launch, just a licensing deal (which means higher prices for the consumer) and could have just gone out as a PR piece.
RaspPi - you screwed the pooch totally on this one. After such good work on hype and tease, you come out with this?
New staff (i.e. grads) are cheaper than existing staff.
So let them burn-out and simply hire new meat for the grinder.
This works are all staff, in all disciplines, in all sectors.
This doe not apply to any level of executive management who have to shoulder real stress and carry real risks. This is why they deserve their salaries, bonuses etc.
Now stop reading this post and get back to work!
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I didn't think VNC offered any kind of encryption and only used basic password security (and said password is transmitted in the clear). Doesn't that leave the phone open to attack?
Well that's no big, seeing as it is a very loose standard (to the point of useless) but can the Roku stream anything over Ethernet? e.g. if I have subsonic installed, can it use that? Or Samba shares? Or something else?
Not being able to stream from the local network is an epic fail IMHO.
Intel is pushing LibreOffice
Oz is mumbling about Open Standards
The EU grumble periodically about Open Standards
Hungary (and the Dutch?) have got for ODF.
Is the panic beginning to set in at Redmond?
http://www.techdirt.com/skyisrising/ and a TechDirt follow-up article
Time and again it has been shown that people downloading/sharing has no impact on sales.
In fact it can be a boon to struggling artists and independents.
The RIAA, BPI, MPAA etc do not like this news as it affects their members by reducing their role as the gatekeepers.
I understand that some people will be upset at their work being shared, and these people will have slightly less money on their piles of millions but here's a suggestion; maybe they were never really worth millions in the first place. Maybe when a truly free market sets a value, they just can't handle the truth.
Companies that do not innovate should fail, not get to set new laws to entrench their business models.
And if all you can do is respond with ad hominems, perhaps it's better you not respond at all or keep your comments switched off.
If they earn 10k they say it should have been 100k. Evil pirates!
If they earn 100k they say it should have been 1M. Evil pirates!
If they earn 1M they say it should have been 10M. Evil pirates!
Repeat to ∞
"piracy funds illegal muslim house prices under sharia law."
Piracy may well do. Copyright license infringement? No so much.
Re: Not this old chestnut again
Also, various studies have shown that unlicensed downloads have no affect on sales.
Further more, the industry is doing just fine.
That majors? Oh, well, they are suffering but that's their own fault (hence ".music" etc. and having laws enacted so that they can act as gatekeepers to culture).
More alcohol fueled violence
Given the crackdown the government wants to see on excessive boozing and related issues, perhaps for the first time ever they should lead by example; move their private (subsidised, no less) bars to soft drinks only and ban all alcohol from Westminster.
But no - "Do as we say, not as we do"
(Cheers for allowing comments, Andrew)
Re: Buy your media secondhand
And this is the point of UltraViolet, On-line digital content etc. It kills the second-hand market.
Stallman was right.
Re: Re: Re: So next time I undo the bolt on my door
"a safe dial"? NAY! This is electronic and thus totally patentable. Hush, you!
In fact....I'll patent an arbitrarily sided polygon.
The sad thing is...some lawyered arsewipe will probably patent my "original" idea and make bazillions, despite the fact it is utterly without merit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Especially...
Command Line? Install Webmin for point-click MS monkeys.
The two step programme
1) Install Prey
Hope I'm allowed this link (I'm just a user of their freebie service, no other connection etc etc).
Forgetting a phone is a PITA, but unless you are a doctor on call (or similar) it's not a big issue, so just relax and enjoy a peaceful life for the next few houra.
Re: So next time I undo the bolt on my door
This, in spades.
The concept of a bolt being thrown/retracted to lock/open something is very old news. Just because a graphical idiom is used to perform the action electornically should not be patentable in any sane work.
Copyright the graphics used? Yes, up to a point (one slidey button thing is going to look pretty similar to other slidey button things)
Trademark it? Hrmm...maybe but doubtful.
Patent? No - sod off.
I have an idea...I am going to patent a "tumbler" graphic that one rotates left/right to enter a code that unlocks the device. No one has ever done that before. There is no prior art. The patent is all mine. ALL MINE!!!!!!!!
Re: Interesting story on the BBC
Ah, I must be imagining this
A lag of 15 mins is not that bad and not a conspiracy. The news will hit different sources at different times.
Calm down dear, it's only a website.
...and maybe this person with papers was going to be working from home, or going to court the next day; there's a few reasons they could have had that information on their person.
But in a pub? Really?
Here's a quick policy:
"Use the secure VPN to access electronic documents.
In certain cases you may remove restricted electronic material on encrypted media (do not carry the key with you at the same time).
If hardcopies are removed, these must be signed out to you and you must directly go from one secure location to another (which may include your home or other official location).
Failure to follow this policy will be considered gross negligence leading to summary dismissal.
Any orders to not follow this policy are void."
If they had been mugged at the train station trying to get home, that would be unfortunate and they're not to blame. But seriously...the pub?
Either sack the person responsible or sack manager (if they didn't impress upon the employee the need to take basic precautions).
@AC at 10:32
You forget one thing - the local company can't provide the same "support" and "fact finding missions" to the MPs and civil servants.
Decisions are not based on what is best for the public/country, but which offers the bureaucrats involved the most benefit (either monetary of fiefdom gain).
I note that Hungary is booting out proprietary formats/systems, good to see.
Note to self
Save file as .odt, it magically becomes editable.
Just like they were going to use open standards.
(I just downloaded some documents from the ICO to lodge a complaint. They are Word format and password locked, so I can't use them. Yeah....that makes sense)
I guess that was aimed at me
As I said, I didn't mean to literally give Andrew a kicking. I mean in the figurative sense, i.e. attack his arguments.
And I like the way to propose to oppose violence against the person with, err, violence against the person. :-S
@AC at 15:33
The RaspPi people didn't choose to manufacture in China, the UK government forced them to. They actually wanted to fab in the UK, but the import duties on the components meant that wasn't viable (taxes would have killed all profit) - so they had to go to China to get the fabbing done.
Is it any wonder that our economy is in the current mess then our own government is actively attacking local manufacturing?
LOL! I didn't know you'd posted that otherwise I'd've just added a "Me too".
I think a footer explaining why Andrew does not allow comments is at least required. Although he's so pro Big Meeja that's he's probably afraid of the kicking he would get.
Dear CIA robot and Canadian police: I mean "kicking" in the figurative sense, I am not about to pop down to El Reg Towers, drag Andrew into the street and lay the boot it.
I'd like to be able to comment on his articles, but I can't. Why not?
He's the only El Regtard where one can't?
If there is some deep and meaningful reason for this, can a footer be added so we know why? It's probably been mentioned why, but I must have missed the memo.
For the love of god
Get all the patents in a pile;
Set the pile ablaze;
Once the smoke clears, get on without all the bullshit.
...so they are using Linux. That explains the kernel, what OS is it using (other than something from Oregan Networks)?
Some kind of BusyBox (very popular for PVRs etc?
Just saying "Linux" is not dreadfully important (a bit like saying "I run ntoskrnl"). Whatever the answer is a Linux-based system equal or beat a ntoskrnl based one. It all comes down to how well it has been designed and implemented.
For example, the V+ box is Linux based and simply dreadful to use. There again, Virgin have a long tradition of screwing up fairly decent hardware/software (SuperHub, anyone?)
Ah, but you still need IE6 (as yiou point out). Don't think you'll get that on Windows7.
IETab is good, but it is just a wrapper around an IE window really.
It would be even better if the Browsium code could let IE6 apps run inside proper browsers (such as FF, Opera, Safari etc).
And this is why...
...one should avoid proprietary methods. The lock-in will bite you, and everyone else, in the ass.
Ah, I see. Because I am not a 1337 h4x0r with time on my hands to roll a fork of Firefox I am not permitted an opinion? Nice.
My point was that for those who need it, FireBug works great and is simple to add.
Their "Page Inspector" is just one more thing to occupy resources, maintain and (potentially) be exploited.
But, you know, that's just my opinion. That thing that I'm not allowed to have.
They were heading down that route...
...until MS told them not to. It's the same on the EU, they simply reneged on their "open standards" promises.
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