105 posts • joined Monday 24th March 2008 17:52 GMT
Re: One word...Outlook
Since Surface 2 was released yesterday, you will now find Outlook included as part of Win 8.1 RT.
now u can go buy one! ;)
Wow, a positive article on The Reg about MS and a number of positive comments too... Times r changin'.
Personally i think RT is great, my Surface 2 arrived yesterday. I would urge people to use it for a few months before bashing it...
I use a Nokia 925.
yes, yes, I do get it, got it, and I do agree with all of that.
However, the fact that "Technet never allowed you to use those products in production environments" is the point you need to look at because in reality, even though it's 'not allowed', I bet there are tons of people who ARE probably using TechNet as super-cheap way to install bread n butter apps like Windows & Office and also use all the other software they want for long periods of time... (years).
So, basically, everyone who has been using this 'loophole' to use Microsoft products for tiny prices (i.e. the price of a TechNet subscription for Windows, Office, & half the catalogue etc.), now actually have to go and pay for licences!
Whoah! who'd have thought that this would ever happen?!
Any business getting blatantly rinsed by its 'customers' would shut that door.
You can still test the products for 90 days, but now you have to actually buy a licence to use their products.
(or club together with your mates and buy an MSDN sub!)
My Surface RT literally lasts all day! Sometimes longer - unbelievably battery life. I don't think the 'intel' based tabs even come close...
Friends with iPads have also been extremely impressed with Surface RTs battery life.
Re: Another day, another win 8 hater story on the reg
i bought a 64gb from the MS site when they first came out - that's what people do nowadays, yunno, buy stuff online?!!
i love my surface, dunno what all this fuss is about - it's awesome and everyone i show it to likes it as well :)
the battery lasts and lasts and lasts, amazing piece of kit... does everything i want.
Re: Forever is a long time
Dino's haven't all died out, they have just got fewer (crocs) and evolved to the skies (birds)...
saving already, will be selling my Lumia 800 for one of these 920 badboys! :)
u lot make me laugh, stuck in the dark ages you all are... i bet you'll be running XP & wishing for the start orb when your grandkids are grandparents... going on about how 'it just works' even though no-one else actually uses it or is interested in it anymore!
why do people have such an obsessive requirement for old technology?! Move with the times, the start orb is gone and the metro / modern start button is here to stay. No doubt i'll get voted down, but that's the truth so deal with it!
It's a bit like people still wanting to use XP - i dont get that at all, you're 3 O/S's behind now! keep up! Change is good and it isn't going to stop!
i think that's the thing...
loads of people on here spouting about it failing not being good - have you actually USED WP7 for any decent amount of time!?
I've had the Samsung Omnia 7 since the day they were released and now on the Lumia 800 - I am sticking with WP7/WP8.
Actually go and try it - you might think differently about iOS or Android!
not really fair...
To whoever wrote the article: it's not really fair to quote that "You see your iSCSI Initiator, your ODBC Data Sources and all your uninstallers" etc, as the only reason you can see them on your machine is that you have turned on the "show admin" tools in the "metro start settings" - this is obviously purely so you can write drivel like this! Which poweruser is going to want to run admin tools from Metro?! Certainly no 'consumers' will either...
if you want admin tools you can run them from the desktop, win+r, or right click the start icon and control panel... a much better way and of course doesn't put them in the metro interface.
Sort it out!
Re: Re: Obvious really...
Why can't you just stay in desktop mode for business - that's what i'll be doing!
What exactly has been 'removed' and replaced with a metro app that is no longer available in the desktop???
it's very obvious after a short while of using it...
99% of the time on a PC or laptop, you'll be in the desktop environment (i mean, how often do you need the start button now anyway on a regular machine)...
99% of the time on a touch pad or phone you'll be in the touch zone (metro), it's simplistic and easy to use, much like the 5 fingers attached to your hand... the precision that a mouse provides is just not there in the touch zone as our fingers are too clunky... plus the requirement to be precise in this zone is also not required - users want email, internet, photo's etc, not CMD prompts, MMC's, office docs etc...
And there we have it. It's all a bit scary at the mo as we work out what we're meant to be doing, but fill the taskbar up with icons on the desktop, load the metro-start page up with tiles and then use it... it will make sense.
I love it :)
will = willing
...4 million mugs out there will to fund more of granny smiths latest...
Personally i think WP7 wins everything hands down! I have used (and owned most) of all others and am more than happy with WP7 for the foreseeable future - it's completely re-thought and totally modern compared to some of the more aging O/S's out there...
The main thing is with WP7 - actually go and try it. If you use it (for more than a day, not just 2 mins) you'll likely be hooked...
here's an idea...
just leave the laptop on sleep when u go to work (plug it into the wall if you have too) and then wake from sleep when you get home! takes all of...ooo 1 second!
why are people still shutting down and booting up every day!!!!???
my laptop (new toshiba satelite r830-143 will happily last nearly all week in sleep mode and is always on the coffee table when i come home to use it.... and guess what it's a 5400 spinning disk... (640gb to add, like to see ur SSD do that!!)
I think with Win8 they have a good foundation for phone, tab, pc, xbox/home theatre, all under one 'windows' roof, all looking quite similar & familiar and working on all devices.
So maybe having a family of stuff is better than bits and pieces.
We shall only really see their plan in full in 12 - 18 months from now.
True it's going to be a bit late, but there's a lot of future out there... i don't expect any tech from today to be around in 10 years time, so that must mean there's more competition to come!
yes, i agree, my bad experiences with HD's seem to be with Seagate's. I find WD Green Power drives great for home use (storage), obviously not performance drive, but cool and quiet and perfect for streaming media.
SSDs for performance now anyway isn't it?!
I hope they kick Apple's butt!
Not that i really care either way as i'm in the WP7 camp, but it's great viewing!
Where's the popcorn icon, oh a beer will do!!
hardly "the mighty" - when did WinMobile ever really have the lion's share of the market?
Nokia have fallen, and iPhone & Android have risen.
Things never stay still (apart from maybe Windows' crown on the desktop) and in the future the top dog in mobile will no-doubt change again.
hang on shaunhw, just wait and see, i imagine they'll be a "show desktop at startup instead" option in the menu's - we've hardly scratched the surface of the new O/S yet, so i'd wait and see what's coming...
thanks for spending the time to read my post history! i'm sure you can conclude from all of it that i am definite windows fan!
...crack, by the way.
Doesn't matter about Android - Nokia will return to rule the roost with WP7 at the helm ;)
Roll on Mango!
"If you're just going to be uncritical then no one is really going to be interested in what you have to say."
So you only post on forums to be critical - ALL the time?! What a sad life you must lead...
i am actually being serious - Windows is what i use day in day out, i don't touch anything else - i genuinely do think it's gonna be really good! Not trolling in the slightest!
If i were trolling i would say something like "well Lion is gonna make Win8 look pathetic etc etc"
these big dumb buttons are going to be the basis of the future of windows - far from being dumb they will actually show, at a quick glance, a whole wealth of information - which means the user doesn't have to actually enter an app to see what's happening - kinda makes everything else look dumb all of a sudden, eh?!
I think you need your eyes checked, IE9 is crisp and clear on all my machines...
it's a bit like a new car, why do people bother changing - because they like new shiny ones. they still do the same job, get you from a to b. A lot of the time, the 'old' car isnt really that old either.
Why do people do this?! Because we like the latest shiny stuff. Sure it might be buying into the trend or whatever, but i personally love it and will be slapping Win8 over the top of all my Win7 machines as soon as it comes out! (fresh install obviously!)
(fresh install on WP7 - hmmm.. something i haven't done for a while (or even 'ever' on this machine) - unlike with XP, which was roughly every 3 - 6 months....)
bring it on...
I don't understand these comments 'lining the pockets of the corporations' - they make a good product, you want to buy it, so you buy it.
if you want new shoes you go and buy a nice pair - am i lining the shoe manufacturers pockets - yes probably, but i wanted a nice shiny new pair of shoes.
much like i want a new shiny windows 7 computer etc etc - it's 1 product in a world of products and if you're interested in it, then 'buy into it' .
how boring would the world be if, in 2050, everyone was still using XP because the business-sense of a manufacturer thought "well, XP does everything we need, we may as well just give up now and go home..."
Business. Go Microsoft, Apple and whoever else is selling stuff to make a bucket load of money, keep the money flowing, the economy moving and technological innovations coming - i love it and am happy to pay for it.
stuck in the dark ages...
XP is so old and tired nowadays, it looks like a dated piece of **** too...
Being a tech enthusiast i like to keep up to speed with the latest software (& hardware) - surprised at people on this site arguing the other way!
Move with the times or get left behind - i personally wouldn't touch an XP disc with a barge pole (unlike the first poster who i presume is still at home with a Commodore VIC20 sitting in the lounge plugged into a CRT via an aerial lead and a tape deck!) ;)
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