2404 posts • joined 19 Mar 2008
Re: Missed the point?
"Because they know that women only go into jobs that are percieved to be fun or cool."
Nope, women go for jobs that are easy and require little technical ability. Air-conditioning is a mandatory requirement too, obviously.
With IT you get the aircon it is true, but even drooling Windows helldesk monkeys still need *some* technical chops.
"Gravity" perfectly depicted women in science/tech
It would seem to me that the miniscule 0.15% growth by Win 8.1 is entirely offset by shrinkage for Win 8.0
ie: it is just existing Windows 8 installations being bumped to 8.1, not much new stuff coming through.
"There is no doubt whatsoever that [...] giving [females] a voice in the male-dominated cultural and political landscape, is a 'must-do' with regard to getting the largest, and most vulnerable, populations of the planet to realize their own potential and find a way out of living behind the curve. "
Ha ha ha, that's a cracker. Every western nation that has been infected with the cancer of feminism is rapidly unravellng as we speak. To think that having more of it will make the world even better despite all evidence to the contrary is just crazy.
You give females a voice and they go straight to voting themselves a big daddy government. In other words the first thing they say is "give me your stuff you beastly male" Then they spit on you.
Stop being a beta Scott and take the red pill, you will be all the better for it.
The global warming catastrophists are truly getting more desperate every day.
It is a sure sign that they are losing the argument.
Re: They might reduce the cost of the OS
"They have to differentiate between a low cost and a high cost device"
This another way of saying they need to maintain an artificial "high cost device" price point.
Wintel have been doing these sort of market distortions for years of course, and have been getting away with it due to there being no viable non-wintel alternatives available. The trouble is that here in 2014 there are viable alternatives so this sort of market arrogance is no longer viable.
I wonder if they will ever figure this out?
Re: When are they going to get it in their thick skulls...
$15 is still a lot more than the $2-$5 that MS extorts from Android devices.
"Does the software market really need "resellers" to such a significant extent now?"
Software resellers could essentially be redesignated as "licence compliance consultants", their main purpose being to navigate the minefield that is MS SKU's & licencing on behalf of their hapless customers.
Laptops are good for this because they come with a built in UPS
Agreed, I looked into getting a Chromecast so that I could basically use it either as a CEC adapter for XBMC or if not, as a media player streaming from my own library and apparently neither of those options is available.
It is apparently just a portal to various web based streaming services which is useless to anybody living outside the USA.
Re: Avoid the commodity
Your problem is this; "coded by skilled coders".
Have you seen the drooling monkeys being churned through universities these days?
Companies that develop applications want to hire the cheapest people they can. As long as the code runs/compiles they don't give a rats arse about how efficient the code is. Nor does anybody give any thought to producing maintainable code.
Some of the code I see, and sometimes attempt to fix, is truly horrific. Epic monstrosities of incomprehensible, multiply nested if statements, repeating code blocks and byzantine layers of unnecessary complexity.
Recently I found a function in our code base produced by a low rent Indian coder (a "Team Leader!" to boot) that was over 600 lines long with vast amounts of reduntant crap and so many nested if statements that it made your eyes water. I managed to distill that crap down to a readable 40 lines or so. It wasn't an easy job I can assure you.
It's much harder to fix crap code than to write clean code in the first place yet we continue to write crap code. Why is that?
Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you said but the sad reality is that the people who do the hiring & firing don't give a shit. As long as it works without crashing long enough for it to be demonstrated to a potential customer is good enough.
For reminding me why I never buy any of your products.
Sony are a textbook example of how to destroy a business.
Up until the 80's Sony was held in high regard by both consumers and professionals. Their products were the best in the market and they could command a price premium as a result.
Their first misstep was an ill considered move into the low end of the market. By the mid eighties consumers were being offered cheaply made junk from SE Asia with the Sony brand on it. You could still by the proper Japanese made kit but if you were not careful you could get burnt. They were trading on their good name in order to sell substandard junk. Any graduate of Business 101 could tell you this sort of strategy will not work in the long term but the geniuses at Sony HQ pressed on anyway.
By the late 80's audio media was shifting from analog to digital. Sony saw this shift as an opportunity to leverage their still considerable customer loyalty into using various proprietary media storage systems and thereby obtain a market spanning consumer lock in. Even while the "standard" MP3 format was in mid boom Sony was attempting to keep their customers locked into Sony's own proprietary formats. They even subtely screwed with existing standards. Anybody who has been told that "you should only use Sony branded blank CD's because others won't work properly in this Sony kit" will know what I mean here. Of course, consumers looked elsewhere for the kit.
In the 90's, Sony decided to "diversify" by entering into the production side of the entertainment industry by buying some big name music labels and movie studios. This put them into a position where their internal business divisions had a clear conflict of interest. The electronics side of the business were driven to sell more electronics and the best way to do that is to sell the products that people wanted to purchase. Even if sometimes those products were used to consume "illicit"
copies of media. This was in direct conflict with the media division, who were more focussed on curtailing the behaviour of consumers that it considered to be against the best interests of Sony Media. Consequently Sony became heavy users of a whole raft of anti consumer DRM technologies making their CE kit even less attractive to consumers than it already was in order to appease the media division. This culminated in the infamous rootkit fiasco of course.
Sony are reaping what they sowed, starting back in the 80's. They won't be missed.
Re: There is an option.
Yeah, but that just uses standard squid, which is not really a viable option. The problem is that squid will flush items that have not been used for a while which means that after a few mins/hours/days depending on how you have it configured all the cached items will disappear. Subsequent requests for those files will initiate a re-download.
A proper package caching system is specifically tailored to deb packages. Once downloaded a package will be cached indefinitely. The advantage of this is that if I were to install LMDE on a new PC from a CD, then when it goes to do the first mega update of everything new since the CD was created then it can get them all from the local cache, even if it has been months since you last did an install.
If you just use your standard squid proxy then it would need to download it all again from the source because all those packages would have been flushed from the cache by that point.
"- To each his own. I find the apt tools to be superior to yum, especially in terms of upgrading packages, cleaning up after an uninstall, and keeping the system free from debris."
Don't forget the many deb package proxying options you have in debian which don't seem to have any equivalents in rpm land*. That alone is a deal breaker for me.
Your choices appear to be:
A) Download the same packages where N = number of servers you manage.
B) Download every package in the Redhat repositories and maintain your own mirror, even though you will never actually use 99% of the packages available there.
* If there is a reliable solution available then by all means educate me, I have a bunch of rpm based VM's that I would love to be able to point at a local proxy instead of the internet.
Sorry, I know that I said I was off, but I just had this thought, that is if I were to summarise my position in a few words it would be this:
We (as in tech geeks) need to accept that the majority of products sold in the future will not be aimed at us (ie the mythical tablet with the upgradable SSD that started this whole thing off). You are correct, there will still be some products that cater to people like us but the vast majority of "computer" products just won't. They will cater to people who could not tell an SSD from an LCD and have no intention of learning to, and nothing we can do will change that fact.
OK, time zone differences demand that I give this up, although I have enjoyed it. Thanks!
I will leave you with two comments though:
Firstly, I agree that, let's call them "non-consumption oriented" computers will always exist. It's just that they will become increasingly expensive and aimed at professionals. Servers and workstations as opposed to sub $400 stuff you can buy at your local electronics store. There is one exception to this of course, and that is obviously what I previously alluded to, the Raspberry Pi (and its copycats and successors) which has no pretensions of becoming a mainstream product.
When I talk about PC's (for the most part) dying out, I am referring to computers sporting mainstream MS and Apple operating systems. Both those companies are working hard to lock down their products and turn them into CE devices. Of course you are 100% correct that other companies and entrepreneurs will always be there to offer up alternatives but I believe that none of those offerings will include Windows or OSX because neither apple nor MS have any long term interest in doing so. The so-called cloud, software rentals and a 30% cut of every app sold are where MS are aiming for. Maybe they will succeed and maybe they won't but you can be sure that will give it their best shot. Whether something like Linux will step in to fill the void is something we will have to wait and see about. As for apple, as I've said before everything they do is done to sell their hardware but locking your hardware into an app store and cloud services is as easy as pie when you control the entire food chain. Vertical integration is where they are at. They are already half way there and their users are (apparently) loving it, going by how much apple stuff they are buying. I don't get it but I'm not their target market.
In fact, now that I think about it, a vertical integration play is exactly what MS are doing as we speak. Historically they have been 100% horizontal integration focused, which is to say make an OS and some applications and spread it all around a whole bunch of "partners". Now they are increasingly freezing their partners out, which is a vertical integration strategy. The Surface products are an example of that, as is the Windows App Store and Azure. They are, once again, using apple for inspiration.
Secondly, comparing general purpose PC's to screwdrivers is, in my opinion, not particularly valid. Screwdrivers are cheap, PC's not so much. I would suggest that a better comparison could be made with a lathe. Sure companies make and sell lathes but they, generally speaking, are prohibitively expensive for casual woodworkers and generally only used by professionals and serious amateurs.
I see general purpose PC's becoming more like lathes rather than screwdrivers myself.
Anyway, I've enjoyed this little toe to toe discussion and hope we can both go away without any ongoing animosity. Oh, and have a good Christmas too. I'm off to bed.
Re: what to buy
I'm not going to argue the points you make because they are as valid as mine, even if we disagree.
Where I do want to make a point is this:
"I rather loudly insist they continue to cater to the entrenched gentry instead of going out and chasing after rogues and renegades"
I think you misunderstand what gentrification means. The "Gentry" are not entrenchers, they are displacers. "Gentrification" is a term that is used to describe an area where the "working" class are pushed out and the place is taken over by the "gentry" class, who by definition are not concerned with the nuts and bolts of things because that is beneath them. This typically happens in inner urban areas of major cities.
That is where the computer industry is shifting. It is shifting to cater to the vast majority of people who have no interest in the "working" part of computers, they just want to have the computing equivalent of a nice cafe that they can sip lattes in and discuss the latest fashionable causes. They don't want to make coffee for themselves, why should they?
There is no point trying to maintain a frontier town lifestyle when the neighbourhood is rapidly filling with dapper folk riding carriages with top hats and canes.
I can absolutely guarantee you that at some point in the future general purpose, easily hackable computers as we now now them will will be a thing of the past.
Do you imagine they will be around in 100 years? What about 50? What the question really boils down to is this: how long will it take?
I said earlier it would be 10 years. I accept that I just made that up. Maybe it will take 8, 12, 15 or even 20 years, who knows? All I know is it is happening now, and it will continue to happen and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
There are too many forces pushing it in that direction.
Corporations don't like general purpose PC's, it's hard to nickel and dime people when they are free to switch and choose. Governments don't like them either because informed and capable people are much harder to control. Much easier to control a bunch of mindless consumer zombies pawing away at tablets than a bunch of technically adept computer hackers. Prepare for PC's and the Internet to be made into what TV has become, as soon as government and industry can possibly make it happen it surely will.
I respect your intention to fight it to the end, I really do, I just don't think you will win that war.
Re: what to buy
"I disagree with your thesis."
As is is your right and I do acknowledge that activism and agitation is not always misplaced.
However I also believe that the fledgling PC industry of the 80/90s was a frontier land and the industry, now that it is mainstream, will not cater to frontiersmen any more than gentrified 20th Century San Francisco would cater to the likes of Daniel Boone and Wild Bill Hickock.
Time will tell who is right, eh?
Try not to get too worked up. I too used to get damned angry, sometimes at open source stuff as well. The Gnome 3 devs deserve to be put in stocks and pelted with rotting fruit in particular. I am making an effort these days to keep a somewhat calmer headspace but that may be just me getting older too. Sometimes I still get carried away though. I can't recall who it was who said "90% of stuff is crap" but he was pretty spot on I reckon.
Re: what to buy
Hello Trevor, do try and keep your unbridled aggression, umm, bridled, eh?
I was simply pointing out that MS are not going to change their direction because some people want things to stay the same as they are/were in the good old days.
Getting on the internets and spewing vitriol all over the place is not going to stop them.
This means you have a choice. You either live with it and do your blood pressure a favour or you continue to get on the Internet and post futile rants and risk suffering a stroke or something. It's your call.
Either way MS will continue to do what they do regardless. The PC market is moving in to the CE market and there is nothing any of us can do about it.
That's what I'm on about.
Anyway, if you have already decided to alight "the MS train" then good for you. Perhaps that will mean you can be a bit more ambivilent towards the atrocities being committed by MS in the future eh? After it was just the other day I was reading a comment thread where you were pretty damned angry, which is what prompted my comment in the first place.
Re: what to buy
"if in 6 months time I see a nice large ssd which should fit in the space where the current one is I want to be able to swap"
That would imply that you wish to be able to swap in a PC style 2.5" form factor SSD, into a tablet. Is that what you are saying?
Now, I'm not sure how thick the Surface/Pro is, but I'm willing to bet it is not as thick as a standard 2.5" form factor drive.
Here is a clue, to keep things thin and light and cheap(ish), manufacturers don't use standard PC components in disposable CE kit. And let's face it, phones and tablets are well and truly in the CE market space these days. The "SSD" in a tablet is just a chip(s) soldered to the same PCB as the CPU and the RAM. It keeps the costs down, is lighter and is easier to cool.
At some point we (geeks and nerds) are going to have to acknowledge that the era of PC hacking is nearly over. We need to understand that we were around for the birth of a new industry and the hacking about that we did with our CP/M S100's, Apple II's and IBM PC's was great fun, and I for one am extremely glad I was there for it, even if I was just a minor player. Not many people get to be around during such frontier busting times so I am grateful I had the opportunity to be there.
However, those days are almost over. Sure, there are still many fun hacking opportunities available to those who want them. That is why I switched to Linux a decade ago. The hacker spirit still lives in Linux. The Raspberry Pi and Arduino of course are hacking toys that we could hardly imagine back in the glory days of the 80's. Much fun to be had there too. But these things are very niche. The vast majority of people are simply not interested.
The mainstream computer, which grew out of the enthusiast boom of the 80's has well and truly become just another consumer product and is completely beholden to corporate interests. Mainstream computers (I will not use the term 'PC' here) are going to increasingly become locked down CE devices with little or no opportunities for people to modify or customize them further than changing the background wallpaper.
If you need further proof, then you need look no further than the direction MS is taking Windows. It is clear that they want to move Windows towards an itunes store sales model, where all software is sold from a Microsoft controlled web store where they take a cut. They clearly are willing to do almost anything to achieve this goal, even it means pissing off vast numbers of their users (aka hostages) with a much maligned new user interface. If you are one of those folk who are busy bleating and berating about the direction MS are taking (Trevor Pott, I'm looking at you) then you have to ask yourself just how long you are willing to ride the Microsoft train to CE-ville and at what point you are intending to get off, because I can assure you things are not going to get better in the corporate controlled consumer computer market. If you think they might then you are in serious denial.
I'm sure you don't like any of this, I certainly don't, but there is sweet FA that any of us can do about it. It is a fact of life and we'd better get used to it.
In the meantime I will continue building/upgrading desktop PC's with selected components that suit my requirements. A mother board here, a hard drive there, maybe more RAM and generally hacking around in Linux for as long as I am able to do so but I foresee a time when even that will become difficult, or at least quite expensive.
I reckon that in a decade or so, there will be a thriving (but dwindling) second hand market for PC parts so that old school hackers can get the bits they need because the likes of Gigabyte, MSI and Asus will be just a fond memory. At best, if they are still around they will just be selling or contract manufacturing CE style stuff and their component businesses will be left at first to wither and then to die completely.
It's not all bad though, that might even be like going back to the old school weekend swap meets and computer clubs of yore, which would be a bit of a buzz.
"Come on MS get a grip!"
They have got a grip, it's just that you just don't find their grip comfortable any more.
"Microsoft Basic Optical Mice for instances last forever"
Like most geeks, I have a shed full of various computer bits that are in various states of workingness and that of course includes a random assortment of mice.
Most of them still work except a few that don't and the ones that don't are exclusively MS branded.
This is not a scientifically valid sample, I'm just sayin'.
LDS trolled: "Keep on downvoting. It won't make Lightroom run on your iPads. Keep on with your little toy apps... while adults do some real work."
Any "adult" who wants to do "real work" in Lightroom won't waste their time futzing about on a fricking tablet.
Nice troll though.
Re: Just try budging the doctors...
"Yep. There are plenty of reasons NOT to go to Win 7 or 8.x....namely...legacy applications that won't run on the newer OSes."
I agree, if you're not connected to a network then there is no urgent need to upgrade such PC's, especially if they are single purposed (to the legacy app).
However, this is going to become increasingly difficult to manage as the years go by if the same PC is being used for non legacy stuff as well, non-legacy stuff that may not support XP at some point in the future.
Ironically, it might be that Linux and Wine may become one of the best ways to support some legacy Windows stuff. Yes, wine can be a total pita to tweak to get an application working properly but once it is done once then it is easily replicated and can be completely stable. Given that you can get IE6 working under wine pretty easily then this might become an easy way to manage legacy crap safely.
Re: Keep one asset with XP...
"Now, to upgrade the software to a version that's compatible with Win 7 require buying a software upgrade of several thousand dollars"
You don't actually work in IT do you?
If you do and "several thousand dollars" is all that is stopping you from moving off XP then I can only imagine you are doing the IT work for the local fish and chip vendor or something.
"Similarly, some legacy software that are node-locked to old computers [...] has been doing the job for 10+ years"
Good lord, if you have software that is node locked to a 10 year old computer and use that as a reason to not upgrade from XP then what pray tell is your DR plan for when that 10+ year old PC goes titsup?
There are of course some valid reasons to not move from XP, but a few thousand bucks and keeping your fingers crossed that an antique PC doesn't cark it tomorrow are not.
Paris, because she may not be very good at IT but at least she looks good doing it.
Re: I believe it
"If rumors are true, and Windows 8.2 allows a "regular desktop" interface, that may help people make the move."
Maybe, but the rumours also suggest that this won't happen until 2015 which means there will be at least a years gap between XP hitting end of support and Win8 becoming <ahem> usable*.
* Depending on what your definition of "usuable" is of course.
Re: First they came for the DNS
"I use OpenDNS"
I used to until I got annoyed by the DNS redirecting they do to search results when you type in a broken URL. Now I use google 184.108.40.206 who correctly return the proper standard mandated error code when you stuff something up.
Why is almost every Microsoft apologist posting as AC?
Hmmm, I wonder.
" does that mean a forced migration from (in my case) a full 100Mbps back to lower speeds?"
Well, as some people in Tasmania recently discovered, they are being forced to migrate to <nothing> because their copper network has been decommissioned before the NBN was actually rolled out.
"So, I get 5mbit ADSL now"
Try being stuck on 150Kbit (yes kilobit) with no chance of an upgrade in the forseable future.
That is the real disaster of the NBN. As soon as that pie-in-the-sky NBN nonsense was dreamed up on the back of an airline napkin all alternative technology upgrades immediately ceased because the NBN would render them obsolete.
Or so that Conroy idiot said anyway. It hasn't quite turned out that way, but then the grand schemes of socialists rarely do.
"If Debian is releasing security updates and flash plugin updates, and Ubuntu is passing them onto their users, why the hell aren't Mint users getting them all in a timely fashion."
Maybe I am missing something here but when I was using the Ubuntu based Mint my /etc/apt/sources.list file had all the standard ubuntu repositories as well as an extra one for Mint. I (perhaps mistakenly) assumed that the Mint one provided the Minty flavour where the bulk of the stuff came direct from Ubuntu.
I never really though about it that much I admit.
I'm on LMDE now so I can't check such things out any more but one of the reasons I got off the Ubuntu based Mint was the tendency for the updates to make a mess of things at regular intervals. I'm not saying that LMDE is going to be more reliable mind you, only time will tell if things are better or worse in that regard.
"Also Apple didn't do what could have been a deadly blow to MS.
They should have sold OSX as a shrink wrapped OS for OEMs to install."
This comment demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the market dynamics at play here.
Apple are in the making money business, not the destroying MS business.
If they did what you suggested (they did actually try that once but came to their senses later) all they would have done is destroy their own product range and reduce themselves to being a second tier software seller. At best. They were never going to displace MS in the OS market due to the various lock-in strategies that MS continue to maintain to keep people on the Windows treadmill.
It has taken a industry wide shift from desktop PC's towards portable tablets to finally undermine the MS OS monopoly status quo and surprise surprise it was apple leading that charge. If they followed your advice they would be a historical bootnote by now.
Contrary to popular belief, apple are not a software company. They produce software as a means to sell their hardware. That is all.
And no, I am not a fanboy. I don't own any apple products, apart from an ancient iphone 4 that I got for free. I do have a grudging respect however for how apple have played the game in the last 15 years. Well up until Tim Cook took over that is. I don't expect much greatness from apple with Cook at the helm.
Re: RSTA on Microsoft's part
ME wasn't an experiment, it was a last minute stop gap measure to keep users on the upgrade treadmill because MS had not released a successor to 98 in two years and at that point they had been unable to get the code base merger between 9x and NT working properly.
ME was rushed out the door to buy them some time and a couple of years later XP came out and the 9x based product line was thankfully killed off forever.
Re: The denigration of CO2
"The author of this article has fallen for the anti-CO2 propaganda"
Yep, I started reading this and then thought to myself, "this reads like a Chirgwin penned article" <scroll><scroll><scroll> "yep, thought so"
RC is an AGW true believer. Your logical rebuttal is likely to fall on deaf ears.
"All politicians should be IQ-tested before allowed in."
Maybe if we applied that to voting booths we would get better politicians?
Re: I wasted nearly 500k trying to prove we ddn't use any dates
"trying to prove that NONE of my systems used a date to do anything but write a log entry. "
Ditto. I explained this ad nauseum to the management plus clients but they still insisted that everything be tested. This is for a bunch of routers FFS. Routers have no need to refer to times or dates other than for writing to logs yet I was forced to sit down and reconfigure dozens of routers with different OS revisions combinations and "prove" that they would not suddenly forget how to shuffle IP packets around because the date had changed.
Re: oh there are differences
President Tong, like most other third world "leaders" have their hands out for "compensation" from the evil westerners and "climate change" is the tool by which they mean to achieve this windfall.
Of course he is going to say something like that, even if it is patently untrue.
The fact is that Kiribati is growing not shrinking.
Need a Popcorn icon
This guy will have to do
Re: Oil will run out first
"We have already passed peak-oil production"
Really? When did that happen? Or are you just making shit up?
Re: Looks like a modernised netbook
"Sometimes its better to install your own favorite distro"
As pointed out already, this is all well and good, but maybe I don't want to send my money to Microsoft by purchasing a product I have no intention of using?
It only encourages them you know.
Then there is the worry that they have used some stupidly obscure hardware components that are unsupported by Linux (now). Anybody who has bought a Sony Vaio will know what I'm talking about here. I've seen Vaio's that you can't even upgrade the version of Windows on because of the stupid proprietary crap that Sony uses that they refuse to provide drivers for any version of Windows other than the one it originally shipped with.
Getting something preloaded with some sort of Linux at least gives you an indication that the installation of a distro of your choice has a good chance of succeeding.
Re: Radio Silence in Cars ?
Surely the point is that there is nothing on FM worth listening to in the first place? Well, not in Arstrayia anyway. Maybe FM airspace is not such a bogan (read: chav) wonderland in old blighty? Imagine that!
"2.5% are you daft?"
Yes, you are right, it is more like 1.5% What an idiot indeed.
Five families in the Northern Territory are connected to the fibre national broadband network, with Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull gleefully revealing the latest figures from the company he now oversees…
The Communications Minister told Parliament on Tuesday that only 322 families in the Northern Territory were capable of getting a broadband service on the fibre network and of those households, only five have connected…
In a speech that drew laughter and jeering, Mr Turnbull taunted Labor about its “switching on” ceremonies in which ministers would travel to the Northern Territory to haul fibre to dramatise the progress of the NBN… Former Communications Minister Stephen Conroy “went to the Northern Territory more often than there are active connections on the broadband network,” he said."
Oh, and the "20 billion dollar a year IT industry" already has access to fibre numbnut. Where I work we have had a fibre connection for going on 10 years. This is not about businesses, this is all about kids wanting to get their porn faster.
"How about the fact that this doesn't come from tax payers funds. It is borrowed money. "
There is no way in hell that NBN co will ever be able to pay back $50-90Bn at their current pricing/adoption levels. It is economic nonsense to suggest they can.
This means that at some point in the future the government will be forced to either write off its exposure to NBN Co or take it over as a government owned company, at which point we are back to the grand old days of the government owned Telecom monopoly. Either scenario comes at a massive cost to the taxpayer.
"how about you are a dumbass,"
You really shoudn't be calling other people "dumbass" & "idiiot" by the way.
"People want this."
There are people who want free stuff you say? What a shock. Most people who have surpassed the level of juvenile simpleton however realise that there really is no such thing as free stuff. Somebody somewhere has to pay the price.
What you and your ilk are annoyed about is that there are plenty of people out there who don't want to buy a fast Internet connection for you. How inconsiderate of them. Don't they know your Battlefield scores are suffering?
You're just a junior socialist who wants everyone else to subsidise your desire for da faster internets.
Pay for your own stuff junior. Don't expect me buy it for you.
Re: NBN a fizzle
"I personally would rather get something faster now than wait 10-20 years for ANY kind of upgrade. "
Oh I agree 100%. Where I am now I am limited to 150Fbs because my exchange only supports ADSL 1
Oh, Telstra were rolling out DSLAM upgrades which would have given ne a more than acceptable improvment but then KRUDD and Underpants Man drew up the ludicrous NBN plan on the back of a fricking table napkin and that all wen't out the window. 5 years later and there is nothing happening, The NBN is way behind schedule, way over budget and completely underwhelming Their site suggests that I might have access to it around 2023. That is quite frankly an insult.
The NBN is a socialist inspired disaster of epic proportions and it is going to get worse.
Isn't Bill Gates Microsoft's Steve Jobs?
Only without the taste?
"So the question is why did it pay at all if the paperwork was incomplete and some (at least) was suspect."
Actually, the question is more basic than that. Even if everything was above board and things were as rosy as they were presented, how on earth did thay figure that Autonomy was worth $10B anyway?
Paying hugely over the odds was their first mistake, it was merely made worse by the dodgy accounting shenanigans.
I have no sympathy for them at all.
"Intel had to finally admit this week that the Wintel grip which has served it and Microsoft so well over the past decades is waning"
Ironically, the "Wintel grip" is what ultimately bought them here. For too long all those Wintel OEMS have been churning out uninspired, all-of-them-alike PC's and simply jumped every time MS or Intel said jump.
"You shall not differentiate your products by skinning Windows or providing OtherOS. All PC's shall have an indentical look and feel" "Yes sir!" they cried.
"You shall not replace Windows components with 3rd party ones. All PC's will ship ONLY with Internet Explorer" "Yes sir" they cried.
"Kill the netbook market! It threatens us!" "Yes sir!" they cried.
These idiots made this destination inevitable the moment they allowed their products to be turned into commodities for the sake of cheaper access to Microsoft operating systems. The gravy train was good for a while of course but it has long since been derailed. They have for so long been sitting on their laurels that they no longer know how to compete and create products that are actually attractive to purchasers.
"While RT is the more sophisticated API, Windows Phone appears to be winning the internal political battle, with stories suggesting it has been freed to scale up to 7-inch and 10-inch tablets."
Wasn't this sort of inter-departmental dick swinging one of the major factors that led to the demise of Nokia?
Meego vs S60 vs Some other linux whose name I can't quite recall
On the bright side however, it looks like Nokias merger with MS won't include too much of a culture shock.
Re: Regardless of what reviews have to say
Good grief, the art of astroturfing sure has taken a serious downturn these days.
"I'm all in. If there's one thing I've learned about reviews since the advent of social networking and blogs, most authors can't resist the urge to be bias" (Yes, of course, any dissent is surely reviewers being bias")
"Neutrality has seized to exist" (ceased?)
"Personally I look forward to the 22nd when I receive my XO, just as I did with Xbox and the 360" (uhoh, fanboy alert)
"Launch titles are typically weak" (Doesn't stop me from laying down top dollar to buy one at launch mind you)
"but the games will improve as devs gain more exposure to the platform" (You have to be impressed by the unbridled optimism really)
"I'm sure the voice controls have room to improve as well" (ie They are crap but I have faith)
"but name one perfect voice solution that works flawlessly" (as long as everyone else is tellling pork pies about voice capabilities then that makes it OK then)
"They simply don't exist but they continue to improve" (I haven't noticed much improvment since the '80s but I'll let that slide)
"I have no qualms over a 1.5GB update this means MS has continued to refine and improve the product prior to launch" (actually, it means they released a substandard product at launch and had to fix it afterwards)
"If no update was available people would still complain" (Yes, I always complain whenever I buy a fridge, TV, mattress or microwave oven if it doesn't immediatley begin a 1.5Gb update as soon as I unpack it)
As I said to another poster, corporate marketing people must love this new breed of easily impressed punters that they can sell substandard crap to.Not only do they lap it up, they get on the Internet and try and preach the benefits of low expectations to the unconverted masses.
And all without payment I assume, otherwise MS are not getting value for money in this particular case.
Re: Suck it up Australia,...
"You voted in these idiots, so prepare to reap the "rewards"
What? The rewards of not being forced to pay for something that I don't want you mean? Yeah, I'm totally up for that.
"The LNP is laying the groundwork to kill this thing outright."
Surely you jest? The NBN was stillborn from the very start. The fact is that despite all the noisy clamouring from juvenile simpletons who want more free stuff the uptake of the NBN in the few places it has managed to actually reach is pathetic. Most people do not want it
If you want it go ahead and get a fibre connection to your house. Nothing is stopping you from doing that. Well nothing except the fact that it is prohibatively expensive of course, which is exactly why you want to amortise that cost amongst the rest of the Australian public who don't want or need a fibre connection to their home.
That's the whole point of all this isn't it? making other people pay for your desire for a fibre feed into your home. Well all I can say is suck it up sunshine because it aint going to happen, thankfully.
"Old people overwhelmingly voted for the LNP"
Thereby proving that with maturity comes wisdom? As opposed to your pig ignorant attachment to naive socialist idealism and a overarching desire for free stuff? What exacty is your point? Do you think that the LNP won the highest vote since the 20's just because "greys" voted for them? Maybe "greys" should be denied the vote, being so stupid and all? Or even better, lets euthenase them and sell their organs on fleabay eh?
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