242 posts • joined Thursday 5th April 2007 11:55 GMT
Re: cars are not computers
"I just hope they don't start actually making cars, because that could get nasty."
I can see it now. Introducing the new Microsoft Car 8.0 featuring a square steering wheel but no start button. Instead, to use the vehicle you must push a series of tiles on the included touchscreen which is always on by default. Next year, Microsoft will introduce Car 8.1 with an included start button, but the start button only activates the touch screen and doesn't actually start the vehicle.
Re: A Chain is only as Strong as it's Weakest Link
I currently only one two complaints with Windows Server 2012. First, TIFKAM does not belong within 5 million miles of a server operating system. Classic Shell fixes that problem. Second, currently Server 2012 R2 is incompatible with all versions of Exchange. (That was a lesson I learned the hard way.) Exchange 2013 SP1 will fix that problem next year.
So the biggest flaws of Server 2012 can be fixed with free software or time. Because of that, it is my opinion that Server 2012 is the second best OS Microsoft ever made, behind Windows 7 but ahead of the original Windows Home Server. Server 2012 Essentials makes managing your server really really easy. The more I use it, the more I love it.
Why is the answer to our problems always "worse than we thought"? And why is the answer always "stop your way of life" or "pay us more money"?
I will begin to believe in catastrophic anthropogenic climate change when (1) the scientists and individuals promoting this live the life they tell me I have to live; lead by example, (2) the scientists promoting this engage in an open, honest debate with a scientist who does not agree with them, (3) the scientists promoting this always make their raw, unaltered data available as required by the scientific method, and (4) the individuals promoting this stop using derogatory and insulting terms like "holocaust denier" and "flat earther" and "Big Oil funded" and "Koch funded" and so on.
I, too, also have no problem with ads. I have a problem with ads that track you, that are annoying, and that are meant to look like the actual web page. The problem advertisers don't seem to understand is that the more you bombard us, the more we tune you out. We have ads everywhere we go. When I ride the bus, I see an ad. When I go to a game, I see an ad. When I rent a movie, I see an ad. I'm surprised these people haven't gone the Futurama route and started pumping ads in my dreams.
If you want your advertisements to be more effective, we need LESS of them, not more. And they need to be simple and not aggravating. I use the Ghostery add-on for a reason.
What I do for websites that I want to support is I run Internet Explorer in private mode, go to the website, click on an ad, and then wait a little bit and click a link on the advertiser's website so that the original website gets credit. Then I close IE and run CCleaner to get rid of any trace of tracking.
Re: pissing off even a small portion of the customer base
Funny, I thought it was pissing off a LARGE portion of the customer base was the standard MS operating procedure.
Re: Still not enough
I wish I could triple up-rate the OP.
"Microsoft needs to get it through their thick skulls that a desktop computer with a keyboard, mouse, and upright screen is NOT A TABLET and any "touch-optimized" user interface elements are also "desktop-hobbled." *ALL* of these elements need to be presented in a desktop-optimized mode when running on a desktop."
More to the point: different tools have different purposes. A hammer is not ideal for putting in a screw and a tablet UI is not ideal for a desktop/laptop. The purpose of a hammer is different than a screwdriver; the purpose of a tablet is different than a desktop/laptop. Microsoft forget this important rule.
I will be installing 8.1 tomorrow. But I already know it doesn't get rid of my second grievance of Windows 8: the fact that the UI is hard on my eyes. The square corners with just two colors just make it hard for my eyes to focus on anything. Windows 3 had more color contrasts. AND THE ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ON KEY MENUS ALSO MAKES IT HARD TO FIND WHAT YOU NEED. (That is the reason why I will not install Office 2013.) Windows 8 is two features short of being very good: A proper start menu and the return of Aero. I say this in truth, Windows 8 would be on my primary computer if Aero was still around. Start8 solves the other problem with Win8.
Re: When will these idiots realise
To second AC:
(A) It is not stealing, it is copyright infringement. There is a difference. You cannot steal something that does not physically exist. I can steal the physical disc the movie is on. See the difference?
(B) Why do you assume the original poster wanted his content without paying? How do you go from "I want my content easy-to-use" to "YOU THIEF!!!!"? Why is it when someone wants to put the content they legally paid for on other devices without complications, it suddenly becomes one of the 7 deadly sins?
And before you call me a thief, I am not advocating piracy. I am advocating that content providers stop treating everybody like a criminal. I am advocating that content providers treat their paying customers better. I am advocating that Hollywood stop using piracy as an excuse for people not wanting to see the tripe they put out. I would welcome a watermark, provided I can rip the movie, make a backup copy of the movie, re-edit the movie, re-encode the movie, and put the movie on other devices I own. Why should I have to pay for a movie again just to put it on my tablet? Why should fair use be shoved aside just because of a few lawbreakers? Treat me like a customer, and not like a bad person.
"Too much change will kill the company."
As proof: look at the disaster that is Windows 8. Too much changed between Windows 7 and Windows 8, and look at the results.
Re: Smug git icon requirred
FireFox for Android supports AdBlock.
When Microsoft first announced this decision, I fired off an email to them begging them to reconsider. I listed all the reasons why I need TechNet and how this will hurt my business. But I also told them that my request will likely fall on deaf ears considering how well Microsoft has listened to customers lately. I told Microsoft in the email that all we asked for in Windows 8.1 was a start menu. But you didn't listen and gave us everything except a start menu. I concluded by begging them to just listen.
I knew my request would be ignored because they probably didn't like me mentioning Windows 8. But it is the truth. Microsoft thinks they can bully and piss off people with impunity. The TechNet cancellation has pissed me off. So much so that if Windows does not return to a workable version, I will be switching to Linux or Mac and I will recommend all my customers do the same as well.
Re: I have a dream....
There is a difference between the Wall Street and the NSA. The people on Wall Street contributed to a campaign, so the government was not really looking for someone to blame because if they dug too deep they would lose big campaign funding. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
"Greens cannot have their cake and eat it. they need to choose, fossil fuels or nuclear, they can't have the 'neither' option*. because 'neither' would mean blackouts and 3rd-world standard of living."
That is what some of the more radical environs actually want.
I think the RT would have more success if it wasn't called Windows RT. When you think of Windows, you think of a start menu and multiple windows open. And why choose RT? I know it stands for runtime, but does the target audience know that and know why Microsoft chose that? Does Microsoft know why they choose RT? The whole world isn't a tablet. Leave the tablet UI on a tablet and give it a different name. You could have called it Tiles. Like the original Windows name, it well describes what is going on. Or even Windows Tablet. Something, anything other than Windows RT would have been better.
Re: Too late for me
"Xbox One strategy was clearly designed by the money men without considering what gamers really wanted."
That also sounds like the Windows 8 strategy on desktop and laptops, except replace gamers for general users.
I don't trust the cloud, period. I don't care whose service it is. I have my documents backed up daily. If something happens to my computer and backup, chances are I will be on the phone with my insurance company.
Skeptical Science! Really! I would trust a known thief with my life savings before I would trust them with the truth.
If you want science, true science, go to climateaudit.org. Facts are the environmental movement's kryptonite. Start studying objective websites, not the mis-named skeptical science.
What about "GiveUsMoreMoney Drive"? Or "WeAreJealousOfAppleAndGoogle Drive"? Or "BallmerDrive"?
Re: Desktop monopoly
I'm going to fight against SaaS tooth-and-nail. And then when I loose my teeth and nails fighting against it, I will still keep fighting.
Re: Deck Chairs, Titanic
What I would do is disable TIFKAM by default on everything except tablets and convertible laptops. And then allow the user to easily switch between the two interfaces. Emphasis on easily.
I would also bring back Aero and toss the current look-and-feel of Windows 8 in a sack and toss the sack in a safe and then toss the safe in the deepest part of the ocean with a heavy anchor. I understand you need a simplified look for tablets, but what Windows 8 did is an eyesore.
My final requests are to disassociate Windows with Bing, Skydrive, and any other Microsoft service. The app store can stay but ONLY for TIFKAM applications. Stop calling real programs "apps". And stop all the creepy spying on our using habits, such as how long we are using the computer.
<< Microsoft are going to have to think carefully from now on. They're rapidly turning Windows desktop into an "OS for Dummies" >>
I disagree with that. They are turning Windows into an OS whose sole purpose is to give Microsoft more money.
Re: Divine Justice
More proof that there is a just and loving God.
"Listening to the admen? that's like consulting criminals when drafting new laws."
Uh ... you just described just about every politician.
Listening to admen is like consulting the fox regarding the hen house.
Re: This has nothing to do with
And the more Microsoft tries to push subscriptions, the more people will want alternatives. Microsoft is killing the golden goose in more ways than one and they are too stubborn to listen to the people telling them they are making big mistakes.
Re: Mature market.
"So what's really driving all these proclamations of death of the PC? Why are PC sales down?"
In short: Windows 8. This is a product you either love or hate. Despite what the people who love Windows 8 say, the majority hate it. It is fine on a tablet or convertible laptop, but not on a regular laptop or desktop. I promise you this: If Windows 7 was still sold in the stores you would see a huge uptick in PC sales. I helped someone order a new HP laptop. The salesman said over the phone that there was a 2 week delay on that Windows 7 model due to high demand. 3 weeks later, her laptop arrived. Windows 8 is the reason PC sales are down. And Microsoft is too stubborn to admit that different tools have different purposes and too greedy to let other companies make money a different way than themselves.
The best move Microsoft could make would be to replace Steve Ballmer with a telephone answering machine. First, the answering machine would be a far superior leader. Second, at least someone at Microsoft will start listening to customers.
Re: Upgrades? Schmuckgrades!
I helped someone buy a new Windows 7 laptop from HP. The person on the phone informed her that due to high demand it would be two weeks before the laptop shipped. Three weeks later, she got her new laptop.
Like you said, Mr/Mrs Average Computer User is shopping. They are shopping for computers without Windows 8. There is a high demand for new computers, just not for Windows 8 computers. I promise you this: if Windows 7 was on the shelf, computer demand would jump significantly.
Re: Now is the time?
Once again, Microsoft proves they are run by an idiot. Just when I think Microsoft couldn't get any dumber, they prove me wrong. When you make it more expensive to use your products, people will either pirate or move on. I don't plan on pirating, I plan on protesting and moving on.
TechNet allowed me to get the disc for most Microsoft products without having to buy each individual product. You don't know how valuable a service that is. And now they are taking that away. TechNet allowed me to learn Microsoft products which, in turn, led me to recommend those products because I know how to use them and thus can help you use them. Now ...
I can promise you this: I am going to start recommending LibreOffice for all but a few people. Microsoft is screwing the golden goose. I can test LibreOffice for free, soon I won't be able to Microsoft Office for free. And that means I won't be recommending Office. There ain't nobody immune to repeat blunders. Sooner, not later, such stupidity will catch up Microsoft.
I do plan on sending Microsoft a polite email telling them how stupid this is. Considering how little Microsoft listens of late, I doubt it will do any good.
Windows 7 computers are selling well. I help someone buy a HP Windows 7 laptop. She bought it over the phone. The HP salesman said over the phone that because demand was so high for this Windows 7 model, it would be 2 weeks before the laptop could ship.
If the OEM would get some balls and put Windows 7 back on the shelf, I guarantee you they will go quickly. People want new computers; people don't want Windows 8.
Re: Lenovo Thumbs Up #2
I helped someone order a Windows 7 laptop from HP earlier this month. For reasons I don't know, HP has different models for Windows 7 and Windows 8. Because of that and the high demand for Windows 7 computers, this person had to wait 2 weeks for the laptop to ship. And she was told over the phone that the delay was because of high demand.
People want computers; they want Windows 7 and not Windows 8.
Re: Backtrack much?
I don't think this is backtracking. I think this is desperation. Despite what Microsoft tells us and despite what some Windows 8 zealots tell us, Windows 8 is as popular as rug burn. The people who rail against it are the vocal majority. I helped a friend order a HP laptop with Windows 7 on it and the HP salesperson on the phone stated that due to demand it would be 2 weeks before the laptop would even ship. I think Microsoft wants to put people in stores and try to convince people how much "better" and "easier" Windows 8. But if you have to convince me something is better or easier, then it is not otherwise I would noticed that right away.
Re: What will they wear?
I'm going to ask if I can buy a computer with Windows 7. And when the inevitably say no, I will then ask "why not?"
Re: A Shot In The Arm?
" I am not so sure that PC sales are capable of getting a shot in the arm at all, for any reason, under any circumstances."
There is still a huge demand for new computers, but they have to be running Windows 7. I helped a friend buy a new HP with Windows 7 on it. The sales person on the phone stated that due to high demand it will be two weeks before the computer can even ship. I guarantee you that if a store had a shelf full of Windows 7 computers they would sell out in days.
Re: Land of the Free?
One of the US's founding fathers, Benjamin Franklin, said "any society that will give up a little bit of liberty to gain a little bit of security will deserve neither and lose both". I am amazed at how willingly people give up their privacy and liberties all in the name of protection.
Which reminds me of another quote, this one from Shakespeare: "And many strokes, though with a little axe, hew down and fell the hardest-timbered oak." A little bit of our rights cut off here, a little bit there, and eventually we will have no rights.
Re: "...a social robot companion..."
The space pope warned us about dating a robot. I wouldn't want to get electo-gonorrhea, the noisy killer.
Re: MS is playing Follow the Leader
Funny thing is I see Microsoft trying desperately to show how much superior their products are to the competition. I saw an advertisement today showing how much better Bing is than Google. The next commercial after that, I saw an Expedia commercial using a Windows phone to book a trip. Expedia is owned by Microsoft. Yesterday I saw a Surface and an iPad side-by-side with Siri saying "sorry I can't do that". And last week I saw an ad showing how "easy" Windows 8 is.
It is my opinion that those who do everything do nothing well. Microsoft is proving that to be true.
Re: "I could care less for the button itself"
Obviously I do care about the start button enough to comment on it. My point is the start button is not as important as what happens when you press the start button. If I can get to the good start menu without a button I will be just as happy. What I want is the menu, not the button. What Microsoft continues to do is to say "you are stupid and we know what is best for you". You don't piss off your customers.
As an aside, please do not call me a yankee. Because I was born and raised in the southeastern US, it is offensive to call me a yankee. It would be like me calling someone from Scotland "British". I do not have an issue with people from the New England states. But they are the yankees, not me.
Re: What is missing
"Can someone explain to me what the old start menu did that the new one doesn't do?"
(1) Can the new start screen get to system restore just by typing "system restore"?
(2) Can the new start screen get to Programs and Features (where you can remove programs) just by typing "uninstall" and not having to click on a submenu?
(3) Can the new start screen let you see what other programs are currently open and not minimized?
Those are some of my 3 of my biggest gripes with the start screen. One of my biggest gripes is how difficult it is to find system restore and when I have found it, on some computers it is turned of by default. Not good.
Re: Aaaargh, why dont they listen?
Microsoft still doesn't get it. It IS NOT THE START BUTTON THAT WE WANT! It is the original START MENU! I could care less for the button itself, it is convenient for the mouse but honestly I use the start menu button on the keyboard about as often I push it with a mouse. I want to simple, concise, and easy-to-use menu found in Windows 7. Until you deliver that, it shows you still don't get it.
When you must run ads to say how easy and better your new design is then it ain't easy or better. If something was easy, people will not need to be told how easy it is because they will figure it out naturally. If something was better people would not complain about it so loudly. So Microsoft, take your head out of the sand, take your fingers out of your ears, and start listening to your customers. Because obviously you still don't get it when you put a start button in but not the start menu people associate with the start button.
And I want my Aero back.
"Second hand cannot directly benefit the game industry, it has nothing to do with it except taking the money that should have been poured into said industry."
Remind me again how many PRE-owned games never had at least one original owner? By definition pre-owned games must have had one owner to begin with. Therefore the publisher already made money off the sale. What you are suggesting is that game publishers keep getting money no matter how many times a the physical media is sold. In the US of A (where I live), such a proposal actually violates the first-sale doctrine. Once the product is sold to the consumer, the producer no longer has any right to determine what is done with the legally obtained copy. Furthermore, pre-owned is, by definition, not pirated because some already legally bought the product.
"What it encourages are two things: no morals towards the developer and further purchasing of pre-owned games. Again, kids need to be taught patience and not wanting everything right now, especially if they can't afford it. Especially the kids in the US."
Huh? Again, since the publisher already made money on the sale, how is it teaching kids not to have morals? The way I see it, charging people to sell a product that you already made money on is immoral. And where I live, waiting until someone sells a game so you can buy it used teaches patience. Since when did this turn into bizarro world where up is down and black is white?
"I haven't heard of any case of "I sell games to be able to afford new games""
Well, here is your first one then. I did at several times. When I was younger and poorer, I sold games I no longer wanted to play to pay for new games and didn't like enough to keep. The store would pay me more if I turned around and bought another game with my trade-in. I did it several times. And if the store gave more value for purchasing new games, others must have done it too.
"I'm basing my thoughts on this on many discussions on the subject and various inputs from the game journalism and alike"
Yeah, like they won't be neutral and unbiased ... (rolls eyes).
How would you feel if Microsoft and Apple required a person to pay a fee every time a computer was sold to someone else? Paying a fee to publisher to buy a game is the same concept really. In both instances the original creator already made money. Since they already made money on the product, why should they entitled to make more money every time the same product is resold?
Re: A step in the right direction
I would like to see a use-it-or-lose-it clause in patent laws and different standards applied to individuals and businesses. What I would like to see is if I, as a person, patent something then as long as the patent is in my name than it is good for the rest of my life. But if a business patents something, it must be use that patent and the patent expires after 10 years. Then I would establish a patent court. This court would be staffed with judges educated in different fields. If a patent claim is credible enough to reach the court, then the court would look at the claim without participation from either party. If a company is found violating a patent, then the court will set a fair and reasonable royalty payment. After this judgment, a corporation can sue another corporation for knowingly violating patents and then, and only then, can a corporation seek past royalties. Nobody will be allowed to use a patent to stop a product from being produced and nobody will be able to stop someone else from using their patent. If a business was found in patent court of stonewalling a request to use a patent, then that patent is nullified.
Reminds me of a story
I read a story a long time ago, and I wish I could find the link again, about a certain neighborhood protesting a new tower by AT&T. The locals claimed that ever since the tower went up they have been getting headaches. The local news got wind of the story and investigated. What the news found out was the tower didn't have any power to it so it wasn't even operational.
It is quite common for people to read about a disease or condition and suddenly they come down with that condition. I know someone like that who, after reading a medical journal, will sometimes suddenly have the disease described in the journal. People think cellular towers can causes headaches, and suddenly their mind convinces them that they have more headaches or they notice their headaches more.
I have to say this
Albert Einstein said "No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong." Think of all the failed theories that the consensus said was true. Two good example were the geocentric solar system and miasma theory. The miasma theory had some good because it forced cities to have proper sanitation. But it was still wrong because it failed to recognize that correlation is not causation. Science is not by consensus. Anybody who says otherwise has ulterior motives. Religion is by consensus.
Humans have some effect on the climate, especially local climates. But to think that humans' effect on the global climate outweighs that of the oceans is ignorant.
Re: I'm shocked. Shocked!
One thing that I really hate about Windows 8, besides TIFKAM, is how Microsoft wants you to integrate the computer's log in with a Microsoft Live account. Most people I have met wisely don't use that feature.
What about the old Start Menu? I could care less about the Start Button, I care only about the smart, easy-to-use menu that appears when I push the Start Button in Windows 7. If it goes to that ugly "Metro" start screen, then you have not learned a thing.
We can call it the XBox 42. After all 42 is the answer to the ultimate question.
It is not just liberals. And that is the problem. Both sides clearly do not see that they are closed-minded and therefore compromise becomes impossible. They become entrenched in their beliefs and attack the other side. Nobody likes to be attacked, so the result is the other side becomes more entrenched. Neither liberals nor conservatives are willing to listen, just attack. And we all lose as a result.
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