6 posts • joined 19 Feb 2008
So very easily prevented
They forgot that they were flying an aircraft and set about trying to troubleshoot the messages instead of acting on the basic flight information. All pilots are taught how to stall and recover from the stall to the point where you can recognise the signals and instinctively know how to recover from a stall. I was taught this within 10 hours of starting flying and I still practice it today.
If in doubt about the airspeed indications, most SOPs on the Bus call for 90% N1 and 5% Nose up - it may not be easy or elegant or smooth - but you will maintain a rough altitude in a stable attitude. You will survive.
As Korean did years ago - Air France have a serious training issue on their hands - an issue that needs to be addressed very quickly!
Air Chance......second only to Aeroflot now in terms of passenger deaths per miles flown.
Yes. It is pronounced 'Boat' - but lets not get sidetracked into German pronunciation and grammar. We'll be here for decades !!
The first of many
I think we'll see more and more 'scientists' exposed by dodgy statistics, models and extravagent claims. Many have simply followed the funding and now daren't question their own research for fear of losing said funding.
There is also a sort of crazy religious zeal with which the MMGW lobby are building their case; the sort of zeal that flatly denies / prevents / obfuscates any logical discussion or argument for MMGW and its causes.
The earth may well be warming....or it may be cooling - but it's a natural cycle and whilst we absolutely should be far, far more efficient in our use of natural resources, the biggest threat this planet faces is over-population; not cars !
Sims versus the real thing
"...Maybe not, but ask any real piot - the simulator (or computer) is a hell of a lot harder than flying the real thing."
I'm a pilot..and I fly the real things, not simulators (although I do use simulators for training) and I can tell you that flying the real thing is harder than the sim....especially when doing an approach to land in crappy weather and with turbulence !
Glad you lot aren't pilots !
Comments from RotaCyclic
"...Flaps DO NOT change the stalling speed of the aircraft. The stalling speed remains constant."
Wrong !! Flaps DO change the stall speed of an aircraft. What does NOT change is the angle of attack at which the wing of the aircraft will stall. Deploying flaps increases the angle of attack of the wing (as measured by the chord that runs from the leading edge to the trailing edge of the wing).
So with full flaps you can fly slower.....but you can't exceed the stall angle of attack of the wing. Reducing flaps means you can reduce parasitic drag, which in turn means you conserve energy more easily.
Uninformed comment re: 777
re: post by Ian Peters
"..That the 777 is prone to issues where the flaps do not always work as they should and these early landings are not uncommon to correct this issue."
What utter poppycock ! Clearly you don't fly aircraft Ian !
ALL aircraft (with the exception of the Space Shuttle which doesn't have them) can perform flapless landings with ease. The pilots practice this regularly; it's not a big deal.
They do NOT 'land short' because of the non-availability of flaps !!!!
Let the AAIB do their work and we'll find out soon enough.
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