* Posts by Ian Michael Gumby

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Ecuador and Sweden in 'constructive talks' – just don't mention Assange™ by name

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@Dr. Syntax ...Re: @AC ...

He goes to Sweden first to face the charges. He was on the run which is why they issued the EAW. Also rape trumps bail jumping.

So he will go to Sweden, assuming that they will charge him. Its possible that they believe that don't have a winnable case they won't charge him.

Regardless he jumped bail and will face charges in the UK.

They could decide to give him the full sentence because he cost them millions on police overtime... Or they could just toss him back to Australia.

BTW, any time he spent in the Embassy doesn't count for anything.

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@swineherd ...

There's a new twist here:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/aug/29/julian-assange-told-edward-snowdon-not-seek-asylum-in-latin-america

Too funny.

"“I’m a white guy,” Assange said. “Unless I convert to Islam it’s not that likely that I’ll be droned, but we have seen things creeping towards that.”"

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Man is that guy full of himself.

He's not worthy of being a drone target.

But the interesting thing... it could explain why there are new talks between Sweden and Ecuador.

Seems they want to get rid of him too. ;-)

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@AC ...

Actually if the US wants him...

They can get him from Australia.

Look here's how it breaks down....

Assange pops out of the Embassy.

IF he has to go to Sweden,THEN he goes to Sweden.

After that... back to the UK

ELSE

He faces UK law for jumping bail.

END IF

The UK Govt, then puts him on a plane back to Australia when they are through with him. Assange will be asked to leave the country for being a complete prat and for causing all of this mess and a huge expense to the UK Govt (Police protection)

So in Australia, the Australian Government has a couple of options.

Most likely they can take away his passport.

He can be put on a no-fly list.

Its here that the US could decide what to do with him.

Depending on who's occupying the WH, he may escape getting sent to the US... but if what was alleged in the Article 32 hearing for Manning... maybe not.

The US has ~18 years before the statute of limitation runs out.

Note: That while the UK government could be asked to hand him over... by waiting till he's back home in Australia... it could be done with less hassle.

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@TitterYeNot Re: Just don't mention Assange™ by name

If that were the case, Grandma Pumpkin (That's her Secret Service code name) would have done it already as a way of taking the heat away from her email server.

But you had to go the Beetlejuice route.

I would have thought you'd have gone Harry Potter's Voldermort instead.

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In redneck heaven, internet outages are the American Way

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Re: @ Charles ...Spade fade

Don't know about you... but in the rural areas I've been... the power lines and telephone lines are 15-20 feet.

And even with a decent spread... you could just shoot at it enough times...

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@ Charles ...Re: Spade fade

The equipment is up on a telephone pole. Well within a regular shotgun's range.

Could have been going after crows or some other bird.

Or it could have been an intentional shot. Think about the implications of losing those fibers to businesses around that area. ...

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Microsoft backports data slurp to Windows 7 and 8 via patches

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Re: KB3068708 very slow to complete uninstall

You do realize that they can probably do a check, see that the patch is missing and re-install it again the next time you update your Windows....

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US to stage F-35-versus-Warthog bake-off in 2018

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@AC re ... Re: versus?

The A-10 excels at 'low and slow'.

But the A-10 requires having someone overhead to fly cover and then you need to also take out AA radar guided missiles. (A-10s do have flares...)

The A-10 also can take a lot of damage that would take out other jets. Just like the original Thunderbolt.

(See P-47 vs P-51)

But when you talk about B-52s aka BUFFs, you can see them miles away. Only good if you control the air space, and then loiter with either GPS guided munitions, or laser illuminated targets.

The F-35 can do close air support. Loiter capabilities exist if you have a KC near by.

Personally, I'd say keep the A-10, but you will need to do something about the ammo for the GAU. Highly toxic.

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Google tells iOS 9 app devs: Switch off HTTPS if you want that sweet sweet ad money from us

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"Google has told iOS 9 app developers to disable Apple's enforcement of HTTPS-only connections – or their in-app Google ads won't show up on up-to-date iPhones and iPads."

works for me.

no more ads...

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Facebook profiles? They're not 'personal data' Mr Putin

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@Sysconfig ... Re: Hmm...

Since Facebook knows who you are, and where you log in from... anyone who signs up and routinely uses Facebook within Russia would be considered Russian.

Its a pretty straight forward proposition.

So either the Zuck get's the 'zuck' out of Russian or it complies with the law.

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Space paparazzo captures bipolar butterfly

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Uhmmm maybe...

"just what that is in dog years is anyone's guess."

36,400, surely.

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If you have a dog, next time at your vet's office, check the wall chart.

The estimated 'age' of the dog, relative to human years is going to be more of a factor of the dog's size err... weight.

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Hardened Linux stalwarts Grsecurity pull the pin after legal fight

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@Destroy Re: "in response to an expensive and lengthy court case"

Look,

Its not that simple and its costs money to sue.

People get this idea that there's going to be some lawyer willing to take on a big company like an Oracle, Intel, IBM, etc ... on a contingency fee.

Lawyers work on a per hour basis and unless they see a big enough payday or are willing to make the investment, contingency doesn't pay the bills.

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'Edward Snowden' discovered hiding in Indonesian river by boffins

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Re: Parallels...

They both taste like chicken?

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AT&T accused of Wi-Fi interception, ad injection

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You can replace AT&T with pretty much most companies out there.

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Spanking Spam King: Sanford Wallace faces jail for Facebook flood

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Ah the old memories...

Its spamford wallace and then there was Walt 'Pickle Jar' Rhines.

If you've been around long enough to remember Usenet, you'd recognize those names. ;-)

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EU Commish demands proof of Google's evil from rivals, customers

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@ratfox... Not quite...

The issue was that the scraping was in fact theft, yet if Google ignored those papers, there was a decline in the people who ultimately visited the site after first finding the article on Google. What wasn't know was the statistic of people who just read the scraped data and didn't take any further action.

It would be interesting to see a web site's ranking with or without a page having google analytics installed or not.

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Does Linux need a new file system? Ex-Google engineer thinks so

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Re: Ah, so it's like ZFS but unfinished.

Thats the silicone valley way!

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PEAK TECHNOLOGY? Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Apple stocks hit the deck

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What goes up... must come down...

Sorry, but all of the stocks have had really large pops in price over the past 2 years.

So there's a correction.

No need to go Chicken little ...

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Google reveals OnHub WiFi router, complete with GLOWING RING

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Re: Trust Google to intercept and route your net traffic?

"Beg pardon? How does let them know my browsing history? Are you one of those people who use the Google search page instead of the address bar to input URLs...?"

If you're not running NoScript or something equivalent, Google will know what you see due to Google analytics already running on that page. This is why Google really no longer needs to use cookies because they already collect enough data to know its you. They can associate machines to you and they can even figure out if the same machine is being used by different people.

Its not just browsing history... But lets also consider why they want your wifi unit....

Like BT and other providers, they can use the spare capacity to act as a hot spot.

Also they can use it as a known GPS location to help better pin point you in terms of A-GPS.

If you worry about the Chinese hardware being bugged. Think again.. do you really trust Google?

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Parrot drone pwned (and possibly killed) with Wi-Fi log-in

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Re: says:

Uhm...

Don't you mean kill -9 1 ?

kill 1 kills the process with the PID of 1. Very polite.

-9 means that you really want to kill it.... as in "DIE YOU MUTHA-FSCKING RAT PIG ..." well you know how it goes.

Now going from memory because I'm too fscking lazy to google it... but isn't kill -13 <pid> used to not only kill the process, but all of those evil children the process spawned from Satan?

Didn't you know the BSD devil imp is really meant as a warning!!!

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Robin Williams?

Sorry, but maybe I'm showing my age, but why do I keep thinking about Robin Williams when he did 'Mork and Mindy' ... "Fly be Free!" ?

Now there was a comic who could do 45 minutes non stop on this topic without repeating himself.

RIP

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Mainframe big boy Big Blue tries to drum up new biz via Linux

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Re: Meh! Nothing really new here.

Considering that before I escaped from the borg... there were customers running DB2 on zLinux... many moons ago... I guess the 3 thumbs down must be IBMers who are supporting zSeries.

The truth is that there's more to this... While I am not under any NDA and what I am about to say is pure speculation... think Hadoop ports / Mesos ports so that you can do 'Big Data' on the 'Big Iron'.

But you didn't hear that from me.

I believe its a better path than trying to port Linux and Hadoop to the p series chips.

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Meh! Nothing really new here.

IBM has had Linux APARS on the mainframe for a long time.

I seem to recall DB cheats using Linux LPARS for DB2 because it was cheaper.

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'I don't recognise Amazon as a bullying workplace' says Bezos

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C'mon, get real!

Even Sadists laugh!

Why does the picture make Bezos look like a coke fiend all pumped up and ready to work at 190mph speed. Of course at that speed, mere mortals who couldn't afford the crack / cocaine diet must look like slackers!

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Want Edward Snowden pardoned? You're in the minority, say pollsters

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@My-Handle ... Re: The sad fact is...

Since you want to talk about the law...

There are two issues.

The theft of the data, and then the publication of the data.

The theft is illegal. No question about it.

He went in to the job with the sole intent of stealing any and all docs he could get.

Then you have the issue of publishing...

There was a SCOTUS case in 1971 that basically shielded the newspaper for printing Ellsberg's released documents during the Vietnam war. The SCOTUS decision was based on the probative value to the public ...

This gave some cover to Wikileaks, but to a point. Snowden? Not sure.

So anyone who calls Snowden a hero or a whistle blower has it wrong. Sorry, but what exactly did he blow the whistle on? Compare and contrast his actions with Ellsberg. Ellsberg had access to the information. Snowden didn't. So Ellsberg didn't break the law(s) by stealing the information. He didn't have to.

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@Redneck ... Re: @ 6x7=42

Many have a loose definition of what it means to be a 'whistleblower'.

Snowden isn't a whistleblower.

Maybe an FSB agent, if my Russian friend has it right...

Sorry but if we look at the facts, he took a job with the intention of stealing any and all documents he could because he thought the US Govt. was evil. The irony, apparently lost on many is that he's sitting in a city in Russia, which has a worse track record on Human Rights and spying on *everyone* than the US.

Where the KGB/FSB whatever they are calling themselves these days... makes the US Govt and CIA look like amateurs. (Which they are... )

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Assange™ to SQUAT in Ecuadorian broom closet for ANOTHER FIVE YEARS (maybe)

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Re: In abstentia?

From what has been discussed when Assange did a runner from Sweden, their law doesn't allow for someone to be charged in Abstentia.

Otherwise she would have done it.

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@AC Re: Not a chance

The GJ met and I think they delivered a sealed decision which to the best of my knowledge has never been opened.

As to potential charges?

Sure. But with 2016 coming up... do you think that the US will act?

Then you have another consideration. The US can wait him out.

The potential charges he could face... would be much longer that he'd care to spend in the Embassy and even if the US plans to do nothing... would Assange call their bluff?

In truth... there is a reason for Assange to be scared. If the data alleged in Manning's Article 32 hearing... that he assisted in the theft... is true, then he's toast. Note that Manning plead guilty to those charges so this evidence was never questioned during his court martial. (There may be a good reason why Boise, his lawyer plead guilty and avoided this evidence coming up...)

So we will have to wait to see.

Remember that Assange is scared S_it less of the US so there has to be something behind his paranoia. Or you can believe that he's totally twigged out and there is no reason for the US to want Assange. (Remember the printing of the docs has some legal coverage... at least enough to not make it worth the US's while to go after him. )

With respect to the UK... once the issue for the warrant goes away, and Sweden drops the EAW, Assange then has to face the jumping bail. If the UK just tosses him on a plane to Australia, that should scare Assange more than if they kept him in UK jail for a year or two. ;-)

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B is for Brussels: Google's corporate rejig WON'T insulate firm against antitrust probes

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@Daggerchild ... Re: Odd. Too few shards.

I don't know...

You're looking at this from a way of protecting themselves from the EU investigation.

A different twist?

Suppose you wanted to see this as a way to make Google less of a monopoly.

That is to say that Google isn't using their cash spigot to toss $$$$ as a way of selling a loss leader to gain market share and wipe out any competition. This would make Google a monopoly and thus open to government action.

So by creating a holding company... and then splitting the business where net new business in one umbrella and the search and stuff in the other... its easier to show the flow of money and reduce the risk of being called a monopoly.

I don't know if this is the reason... it could be that it makes it easier for investors to see the money flow and to help keep their stock up on Wall St.

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'WOMAN FOUND ON MARS' – now obvious men are from Venus

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Re: I expect "she"

" Reply Icon

Re: I expect "she"

Sorry but "she" is Catlin?sp? aka Bruce Jenner

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Too soon?

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Re: I expect "she"

Sorry but "she" is Catlin?sp? aka Bruce Jenner

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Introducing the Asus VivoMini UN42 – a pint-sized PC, literally

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Maybe...

The issue is how do they cool the CPU.

I know on the intel NUC they are not fanless, albeit the case is fanless.

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Meh!

Back in the 90's I had a rack of a couple of 4U boxes running web servers, mail/dns, database, etc ...

Now that will all fit on a NUC.

I just replaced my NUC with a 45w i7, 16GB ram, 2x256GB ssd (raided), in a Streacom case.

Granted its a tad larger than the NUC, but it sits on a shelf, like the NUC but is totally silent. (NO FANS while the NUC had a cpu fan.)

Why? Because anyone who's had to sit next to a rack of 4U boxes and doesn't dream of replacing them with a silent box is insane!

Oh and forget Windows. Run Centos.

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Texas senator Ted Cruz serves up sizzling 'machine gun bacon'

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Re: He's Canadian. Born in Calgary

Here's the official answer...

His father was born in Cuba, but became a US citizen. His mother was born in Delaware and was a US citizen. Family in Canada while father was working in the Oil industry.

So like Obama, one parent was US citizen and thus he would qualify.

Unlike Obama... he's never tried to hid his childhood...

Truthfully, I would hope that he was ineligible, however, that would mean that a person who's parents were US citizens and father in the military or foreign service would be ineligible if they were born while family was out of the country.

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Re: The republican clown car.

"> 1) Not all Republicans are clowns.

> Carly held her own in the debate

What? I can't believe you can say that with a straight face. Have you seen HP recently?"

What? Did you watch the Presidential debate?

Seriously, do you actually read what was posted?

As to HP... they've been screwed for a long time and Carly isn't to blame. That's like blaming Rometty for IBM when the problem had been festering for years.

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Re: He's Canadian. Born in Calgary

We never said we wanted Piers. He just showed up one day. Something about an Aussie owning some news media companies... Its all part of an evil plot.

But to your point, now you can see how we do have this immigration problem.

And its a worse tragedy than all those Northern African illegals trying to storm Britain through Calais.

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Re: The republican clown car.

Well....

1) Not all Republicans are clowns.

Carly held her own in the debate and Kasich ?sp? seems to be doing ok, avoiding confrontation and has a solid track record.

2) If Republicans are clowns, what do you have from the Dems?

Their front runner is about to get charged with several felonies over her email server fiasco, where the Chinese government, and the Russian Government know more about what is going on than our own because they had access to her emails.... Not to mention the question about her time as SoS and her hubby's actions.

Then you have the really liberal left in Bernie and Princess two feathers, neither of which have enough foreign policy experience to help correct the damage Obama has done.

The trouble with a two party system is that you now have two parties that are jokes.

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A close shave: How to destroy your hard drives without burning down the data centre

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Meh

Look the premise here is that you want to blow the disks quickly because of certain government agency is going to be coming through the door. So the disk has to be usable and then while its being used... you need to destroy it.

Using an encrypted drive, a small amount of det cord will be enough or a small shaped charge... It doesn't matter if some of the platters are readable. How do you decrypt a chunk of data if you don't know the start or end of the record. At the same time... as other readers point out... there's alternatives that would be corrosive to the drives... what happens if you have a shaped charge that vaporizes a different metal that coats and melts the surface of the drives? I mean lets face it... the surface of the drives are more fragile than the drive case.

But what do I know?

I'm all for the SSD and RRAM which I think a high voltage pop would be enough to fry the machines and storage.

BTW isn't Thermite an explosive? So if you're going to risk the charge of handling explosives which could also label you a terrorist, why worry about destroying the rest of the server too?

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IBM splashes a BEEELLLLION dollars on med pics biz

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Meh!

So... there's this thing called CAD (Computer Aided Diagnosis) that's been around for *years*.

For a radiologist, mammography is the toughest film to read. (Yes I know its digital)

So there's a system that has been around to do image processing to help spot things that a Radiologist might miss.

Since the number of images in a study, even if it took 3-4 minutes to review an image, the overall time would be less than it took to take the images.

With respect to an MRI, you have multiple slices and the tech takes a handful of the slices and sends them off to the radiologist to review. Many more images.

Here, you could use Big Data to do the image processing in parallel.

Again, its not a stretch and nothing really new.

The difference is that these images are less complex to read than a mammography so that the need for a CAD system isn't really necessary. So why spend millions of dollars on a cluster and software to review studies that don't need a CAD review in the first place?

Again its IBM trying to find a problem for their solution.

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Global spy system ECHELON confirmed at last – by leaked Snowden files

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@Stork ... Re: Meh.

There are laws, but its not necessarily to do with the snooping but with what they do with the data.

At the same time... there are holes in the laws... capturing pen data (the data surrounding the phone call) is legal. There are SCOTUS cases which explain why there is no expectation of privacy.

The mass collection is a bit grey, but it falls on this side of the legal line.

Merging the data with other sources of PII would be illegal. The NSA locked the data down for this reason.

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Re: Meh.

"Yes, there are people who give up their personal life to corporations, however there is an enormous difference : they do it by their own choice."

No, not always.

You send a friend an email to his gmail account. Now Google has you on their radar.

Facebook? A friend posts a photo of you and your face gets tagged. Now Facebook starts to track you even though you don't have an account. Don't disable scripts on the webpage and they embed a facebook script... they now track you, just like google.

As to the government... they have a duty to protect you. And you could always move away...

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@Cynic...

I suggest you look at the isolationist policies of the US in the 1930's.

Then consider the fact that Radical Islam doesn't care about you wanting to live your life in peace. They want a world dominated by their views on Islam and are willing to enslave you, kill you for not believing or converting to their beliefs.

Do you need a refresher of the word in 1936-1945?

There's more, but I don't want to upset you with the fact that yes, there are people who want to harm you because you look different, think different and have different beliefs. And its not just Radical Islam.

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@Pascal Re: Meh.

Choice?

That's debatable.

There was a joke back in the 80's. Before the wall came down.

An Amerikan biz man goes to Russia. (Brings two suitcases. One with some magazines and blue jeans, another with his work clothes. )

He gets to his hotel room.

He talks loudly that this place is crap, the heater isn't working.

5 min later... a man shows up with a work order to fix the heater. ;-)

Again while many may excuse corporate America for spying on us as saying we allow it, that's not quite true. I don't use Google and my Friend's company uses a google vanity domain for their company.

Now Google knows me.

You don't take steps to block some of the invasive tech... Facebook.net on a web site... maybe here. So even if I don't have a FB account, they are capturing data about me. I have to go to NoScript and turn scripts on and off. The point is that you have less control.

The irony is that the Feds have more restrictions on what they can do with the data, how they must treat the data, and how they can join the data... breaking these rules can lead to jail time.

As to why... there really are bad people who want to kill you because you are different than them. I for one enjoy a multi-cultural community where everyone is equal until they prove themselves to be an A hole. ;-)

Sorry, but when you have people blowing themselves up and killing people... I'll accept limited snooping if it means I can sleep safe and bomb free.

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Meh.

Look, hate to break it to you but for most of the world, the governments do spy (surveillance) their own citizens on a regular basis. Not a real shocker is it?

The issue is what do they do with the information that they gathered.

That's the key issue.

Secondary is why are they have someone under surveillance in the first place.

The larger irony in today's world is that many of the posters who feign outrage forget how much of their personal life they freely give to corporations who can do much more than what any government could do while restricted by law.

Think about that for a while.

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Sysadmin jailed for a decade after slurping US military docs

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@ Destroy all Monsters... Re: Probably some bad things in there

Can you say Honeypot?

Iraqi?

Want to be she's tied to Iran or Iranian interests?

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Assessing the power of Intel’s SSD 750 … but check your motherboard before buying

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Re: A Hard Disk - on a card?

Old?

Drum drives ring a bell?

Remember the 8080 series? 2 8" DSDD floppy drives gave you 1Mb of storage. Considering that most PCs had less than 48Kb of RAM that was a lot of storage.

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@AC Re: 32.23MB/s for 4K random reads is disappointing

Flash Dimms, aka SansDisk UltraDIMM was sidetracked by lawsuits and the fact that it only worked in DDR3 dimm slots.

I agree that it was an interesting choice and I would imagine that if you did the same with the new RRAM tech from Intel/Micron and Crossbar, you'd have a winner.

This product however is a gap product. It doubles the performance of what was traditionally a SATA SSD.

For a prosumer / consumer product ... it has its limited value. Certain applications will be able to take advantage of it.

For the SOHO small biz, it has even more potential. Now you can get better performance out of a smaller box to serve up your ecommerce site. You can do more with data backed systems where you don't have to buy larger more expensive boxes.

I think we can all see the future, yet not all of us can wait and at a certain price point, we can justify the expense. What we need to see is a new bus architecture to allow for high density RRAM tech.

Imagine having a 2.5" card, the size of your 2.5" SSD slotting in to a bus chassis and being part of a micro super computer?

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Hacktivists congratulate Daily Show's Jon Stewart via Donald Trump's website

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Too Funny.

First, anyone who is an US Citizen and eligible to run for the POTUS, has the right to run.

I will defend that. It doesn't mean that I would vote for that person.

Trump is smart. Say what you will, he's very good at expressing his opinion and is tapping in to the frustration caused by the actions of will go down in history as one of the worst POTUS in the history of this country. (If not the worst.)

What would make for a good election would be Jon Stewart running against Trump.

Or Colbert running against Trump for the GOP nomination.

The truth is... say what you will... while Trump may not be Presidential material, he's at least honest about his message and is willing to show his opinion, damn how it polls. What other candidates from either party are willing to do that? Oh and finance their own campaign.

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@Winkypop ... Re: Donald Trump

"Parody or real?

I can't tell."

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Does it matter?

If we look at the overall polls, while he leads the GOP with 20%, that means 80% of those polled in the Republican Party don't want him. Then there's the Independents and Democrats.

But here's the thing.

1) Say what you will, he's more honest than most of the other candidates. Walker and Kaisich seem to be fairly straight up individuals.

2) Look at Trump's underlying message. The Obama administration has screwed up this country so much.. and the world... things have to change.

It resonates with people fed up with those currently in Congress and the WH today.

Yes, he's an A hole. But unlike others, he admits to being one. He knows how to play to the audience and he's taking a stand and stating his opinion.

Now I admire Trump's openness and honesty. I admire the fact that he's not beholden to corporate donors or laundered money from special interests.

Will I vote for him if hey gets the GOP nod?

Definitely not. Well maybe if its Trump vs HRC.

ABC! Anybody but Clinton.

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Obama endorses 3D TLC flash. How else can you do exaflop computing?

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Meh.

You do realize he has no clue about anything he's said right?

Crossbar / Intel/Micron, all have promising tech, but the Motherboards and information/communication/power bus has to be redesigned as well as networking protocol needs a face lift....

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