* Posts by regadpellagru

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Here comes Vulkan: The next generation of the OpenGL graphics API

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Re: Great...

"The real question is why we haven't had this until now.

I wish it success."

We never had this up to now because of MS-imposed vendor lock-in. As simple as that.

MS was clever enough to see that a nice 3D API would attract devs and lock gamers to Windows (or Xbox).

Now, MS is struggling and Valve and others are seemingly backing this up.

I also *really* wish them success. This could kill MS off the gaming market, and also off the OS market, where they are really performing like crap.

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$250K: That's what Lenovo earned to RAT YOU OUT with Superfish

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Re: $250,000

"$250,000 will barely pay the annual bonus of the marketing 'droid who thought up this scam"

Indeed, and this shows how low the Lenovo customers' security is valued.

F*ck them, for the 20 ongoing years, really.

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Re: Just goes to show....

"But these days consumer PC/Laptops etc you don't even have that option; You only get the OEM's rebuild partition"

Yes, indeed, and this just shows MS will have to amend their policy on this, as some vendors are just f***ing bonkers, selling their customers' security for a mere couple of USDs.

Previously, vendors would only add mid-usefull bloatware, but not any security-destroying fuckware. This time is gone.

The model is screwed as hell, and MS has to re-gain control of *their* OS !

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";...promising to never again install bloatware...', '...six month subscriptions to McAfee...'

It may have been a PR disaster but at least Lenovo still have a sense of humour"

Is it really humor ? I have yet to see anyone else paying their users a sub to an anti-virus company, to clean up *their* mess ... Geez.

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Visa: One million bonks a month for Europeans from next year

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Re: Some of us don't want...

Well, yes, the service case is very unclear.

pros: contactless, no password, faster

cons: can of security exploits if not done well (and contactless techno opens quite a few)

So far, I failed to see how the cons wins ...

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SSL-busting adware: US cyber-plod open fire on Comodo's PrivDog

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Re: If I were a layman

"I never got why we need a CA anyway.

If I trust Facebook, then I trust Facebook. I don't necessarily trust every website ever created by anyone who's bought a certificate from the supplier that Facebook's bought their certificate from.

SNIP

Key security should be in the DNS, and should be tied - the .uk root should be saying THIS is the cert for the .co.uk TLD and it's the only one I specify. And then when asked, .co.uk will say THIS is the cert for the facebook.co.uk site (and here's the IPv4 and IPv6 addresses). And then Facebook can specify what THEY want under that domain as required. All signed, all authorised, back to the root."

Actually, I don't think security by network (which seems to be your point) is enough. After DNS is secured, you have to secure the transport, and the physical layer etc ... Long efforts before you're SURE www.facebook.com is really facebook.

SSL took the approach of end to end cryptography, which is desirable and good.

The only problem is there is a gap: all CAs are hard coded in the browser and no user ever look at them (they're so obscure ...) and there is no secure directory service. That's the current security hole exploited by superfish and its siblings and the real short-coming of SSL.

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'Utterly unusable' MS Word dumped by SciFi author Charles Stross

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Re: complex documents

"Use LaTeX"

Well said. Upvoted :-) LaTeX was my first Word Processor.

Speaking of this (formulae processor), has anyone managed to write some complex sigma formulae with Word 2010 ? The formula processor of 2010 is totally awfull. I thought it would be OKish, but not. That very day I tried, reminded me how simple it would be with LaTeX.

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Superfish: Lenovo ditches adware, but that doesn't fix SSL megavuln – researcher

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Re: @Halverflake @P.Lee

"Lenovo produced the hard drive image, not Microsoft.

Lenovo is fully reponsible for including the bloatware, not Microsoft.

Microsoft makes operating systems and office software for many laptop/PC manufacturers, not just Lenovo.

Is "SuperPhish" present on those units too? Not that anyone has heard."

The problem, here, is MS has let OEMs, like muppets-Lenovo and many others, package their OS, to their will, including the possibility to add any full-scale spy/mal/bloat-wares, if it brought revenue. And this is gonna hurt them, even if they've only been naive.

MS really need to regain control of Windows from the OEMs and provide certified (whatever that means) install media that can bring a secure baseline to any HW. It is abolutely pointless to have invested in things like secure boot and have let OEM act as Lenovo had.

MS is not the culprit, here, but they've let things go titsup.

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Re: @Halverflake

"If you issue a false certificate to intercept secure communications, don't you open yourself up to criminal charges?"

Who cares, when

1- it happens to a chinese vendor (law ? What's that ?)

2- you have 0 judge or lawyer on earth who can understand this SSL stuff

3- you can easily spin it to the "usefull app that gives nice ads to the user"

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For pity's sake, you FOOL! DON'T UPGRADE it will make it WORSE

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Still baffled ...

we have this kind of problem, now in the 21st century, aka, problems of issuing the right letters with a keyboard.

Me, I'm still in my walkaround from back in the early 90s: map my keyboard of employer provided (crap) laptop to french kb, no matter what reads on the keys, then type by memory.

Good for french and english, wouldn't work with spanish, russian, chinese or arabic.

Also, gives me good laugh whenever anyone else is trying to type anything :-)

Would appreciate any Windows or Mac perma solution ...

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Lenovo to customers: We only just found out about this Superfish vuln – remove it NOW

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Re: Orange Alert!

"MS should take note as well. This is not their fault, true, but they also provide no means for users to do a clean-slate, non-manufacturer bloat, install of Windows. By that I mean provide essentially the same disks/downloads as if you walked into a store and bought Windows off the shelf. Not their fault, but it leaves you with the same question: can you trust your brand-new PC? No, not entirely.

We should get a valid, go-to-MS-when-needed, OEM license for Windows, not just some bloated manufacturer install. I for one have no idea what happens if I re-format my Asus laptop. I assume I can re-install Windows somehow from their recovery partition, but I won't know that unless I try it. I know how to rebuild with a Windows install disk and I would much prefer to be in that position with my Asus."

That's actually a very good point. I've always been very worried of seeing people around me *never* get an MS install disk, and being served the usual "recovery partition" pitch by whatever sales droid.

Now I know why: the OS sold is not the one from MS, but from the vendor, who definitely has incentives to put crapware in it, unlike MS.

Creepy.

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Norton Internet Security antivirus update 'borked Internet Explorer'

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At last

"Norton Internet Security antivirus update 'borked Internet Explorer'"

At last, Norton did something good for security.

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Lenovo shipped lappies with man-in-the-middle ad/mal/bloatware

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Re: TEMPORARILY???!!!!?????

"So, long term, Lenovo's intention is to continue bundling software from this highly trustable source.....

Holy Crap."

Upvoted. Well, since this one was not concealed enough (they thought no-one would notice an unusual ROOT CA in the browser), that's exected they'd come-up with something better, no ?

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(Re)touching on a quarter-century of Adobe Photoshop

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Pascal ? Really ?

"... where you can peruse its 128,000 lines of virtually uncommented code: 75 per cent in Pascal, 15 per cent in 68000 assembler language, and the rest in er… various other stuff."

So, someone actually built something outside university, in Pascal ? Really baffling news to me, and I worked in SW for 5 years during the 90s ...

Different note: a very more accessible and free alternative to PS or Gimp is Paint.net. But, yes, you're nowhere approaching PS functions, but approaching Gimp's ...

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Lashed Saudi blogger Raif: Prince Charles has word with new king

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"All the receiving dignitaries have my undying respect for keeping straight faces...I would have howled."

Yep, same from my side. Have an upvote.

Really good to see the ol' sacrcastic UK (Wales is still part of UK, I think :-) humor can also be put into official guard music.

I wish we french can do that as well. Sadly, it won't happen here.

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French minister: Hit Netflix, Google, Apple et al with bandwidth tax

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"I can never understand this attitude that people come up with - oh let's charge them because they are providing content that has already been paid for twice, but let's charge them again anyway."

No logic in there and no point to even try to understand it. Just general "tax to see if they pay", without any regard of fairness whatsoever, then if things go titsup (Eco Tax, geez ...), backtrack all along.

Desperate try to rob any money to close the gap with EU. Bear in mind France is the only country in the world where people pay taxes on raw salary (they don't get) not net salary (they get), due to the wonderfull CSG invented by Michel Rocard's administration (90s I think ?).

Hollande policy, nothing more.

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Patch now: Design flaw in Windows security allows hackers to own corporate laptops, PCs

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Re: Server 2003

"A typo that's far too common these days. Your too restrained - I tend to loose my temper when I see those, or assume there stupid."

Yeah, happens also on videogames forums where all sorts of people ask tips on playing "rouge" instead of rogue.

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French plod can BAN access to any website – NO court order needed

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Re: Not so bad really

"Les Francais sont loin d'être aussi cons que certains peuvent l'imaginer."

Je suis bien d'accord !

But in this instance of policy, it is totally retarded and will fail in the usual way:

- extend the powers to any copper (within 2 years I'm sure)

- see any forum being kicked whenever a bot posts something terror-like plus any website any copper don't like

- no more forum hosted in France (are there any to be honest ?)

This plus the smart people who will game the system as alredy devised higher in those columns.

And then a report in newspaper the darn thing costed millions ...

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Microsoft will give away Windows 10 FREE - for ONE year

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Re: OEM's

"But what happens if many users (highly likely) don't bother buying new hardware and just go down the home upgrade route? Will the large corporate customers go into rolling out upgrades instead of a hardware swap? If they do than MS is really digging a hole here for the OEM's, and they aren't exactly in a strong position as it is. Do think it's going to be interesting though to see how it shakes out down the line."

Easy fix for you: Win 10 will probably not boot on any of the systems running W7 (CPU tweaks, RAM, ...). But surely it'll boot on most default W8 gear. Solved. W7 killed through "no support", and W8 killed through "I want the mistake fixed". Actually quite clever.

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Re: The unasked question

"Does anyone dual-boot these days? I'm sure it will work fine in a virtual machine."

What a burden dual-boot is ! No way I'm doing this, giving how much time Win 7 takes to boot fully. I'm choosing an OS, and stick with an MS VM above this, for every MS obligation.

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Re: Where's the profit for Microsoft then?

"So either Microsoft is leaving a lot of money on the table, or expects to recover it in Office365 subscriptions (doubt it), or I've understood this incorrectly and they mean that W10 upgrades from W7/8 will run W10 for a year and then you'll have to pay for using it after that first year?"

Or they're gonna go the pay for patches updates, which I'm increasingly seeing coming, in light of the recent "we don't patch difficultly exploited reported bugs". Since the whole thing is a security nightmare, there is money to grab, here, and probably nowhere else.

How it's gonna go with users is anything to go by ...

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Will fondleslab's fickle finger of fate help Windows 10?

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How would they do that ?

"Rather than making money from the license fee, Microsoft’s goal is to cash in on services – bundling things like Office 365 for free for the first year and charged thereafter, when you forget to cancel."

Even that is gonna be a challenge, unless you need to issue you visa card number to MS upon acquiring your licence or system ?

Who on their right mind would do this ? And who would pay a service they don't use, after receiving an email from MS ?

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Re: No need to anything Microsoft in the home anymore.

"There are possibly loads of other Linux/BSD based devices I am forgetting (Nest, Router?)"

Yep, on top of those, for people into videogaming today on legacy Windows/OS X, there are the steamboxes, apparently coming in march, which allow people to run their already purchased games for Windows/OS X (if they are provided for Linux) on them, basically shifting the gaming population to a Linux, Debian-based solution.

So, same here, bye, MS.

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Scary code of the week: Valve Steam CLEANS Linux PCs (if you're not careful)

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Re: It's shit programming

Yep, and it is even worst timing:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/valve-steam-machines-will-be-front-and-center-at-g/1100-6424591/

So basically, they're gonna unlock the steam machines from their stasis, running on SteamOS, which is a modified debian.

And they stupidily screw up in the steam Linux client !

I'm sure the dev's butt has already been nicely kicked.

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‘Whatever happened to Vladimir Putin?’ and other crap New Year prophesies

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Re: @ Chris Miller Y2k - in your experience

"For 1, assuming you had the source code, there were code-scanning tools that could help."

Part of the problem was, a lot of companies had no longer any source code for their executables. Sure, it's totally retarded, but staff turnover and no source mgmt in place made the problem.

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Paris terror attacks: ISPs face pressure to share MORE data with governments

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Re: half of the week only

You need to read, AC, or work for NSA.

Have those 2:

https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en

http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/28/7458159/encryption-standards-the-nsa-cant-crack-pgp-tor-otr-snowden

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David Cameron: I'm off to the US to get my bro Barack to ban crypto – report

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Re: The Project for a New Oceanian Century

"Does anyone have the totally unwarrented feeling that he had a big folder in his desk and was just waiting and hoping for someone's cat to fall downstairs?

Totally unwarranted, I am sure."

Yep, obviously, he just needed the opportunity, which is appaling at best from a gov. leader. I'm happy someone else's prime minister is a bigger clown than mine ...

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It's 2015 and home routers still leave their config web servers wide open

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They don't care

"Novella discovered the first problem in April 2013 and the second in September. He has notified the ISPs and hardware vendor, but says he has yet to hear back, prompting his decision to go public last week.

"Neither Movistar nor Pirelli answered my attempts for fixing the problems," said Novella. "Only Arnet Telecom Argentina replied the first email. After I explained the vulnerability, they disappeared and never got a message back."

El Reg asked ADB Pirelli for comment on the reported vulnerabilities last week, and received no response. We'll update this story as and when we hear more. "

Frankly, El Reg shouldn't hold its breath, as Novella has apparently aited for one and a half year, for no answer :-)

This gives credit to Google blackmailing strategy (3 months, then go public) towards Microsoft.

Simply, to any SW vendor, security is customer's problem. They don't care.

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FBI has its fingers deep in NSA surveillance pie, declassified report shows

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Of course

in each and every such matters, we must seggregate:

1- who intercepts and stores/decrypt the data

2- who consults the data

1 is unique (otherwise, it's really too expensive). Can be X or Y, is NSA in this case. Other countries are different, but still a unique 1.

2 is going to be 1 only, at first, then it's gonna evolve as each and every new security law is passed, going from FBI, to IRS, your mayor, his assistant, and any freaking Mac Donald's manager. All of that while slurped data is being stored for increasing periods of time (again, new anti-terror laws).

That's how privacy laws are being scope-creeped for still a number of decades, as an ultimate achievement for terrorists.

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Windows 7 MARKED for DEATH by Microsoft as of NOW

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2020, I'm bought

"Security patches will continue to flow until 2020."

Very good, as those are the only things I'm expecting from this Redmond lot. Staying on W7 on my Mac VM until 2020 ... I'm happy with what I paid for W7, with (just) that.

"You've got either a few months – assuming Windows 10 ships by year's end as planned – or five years to find out. ®"

Let's assess the situation every year within the next 5 years, to see if MS finally has a clue on UI, gaming techno, and what not.

After the deadline, the market (gaming, tablet, office, etc ...) will have an answer. I really hope MS will be part of it, but I'm not betting a single E on this ...

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Microsoft patch batch pre-alerts now for paying customers ONLY

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Re: That Nadella fella is worse than Ballmer

Agree, here.

In a couple of years, security patches will be paid for on top of maintenance, at MS ...

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Tax Systems: The good, the bad and the completely toot toot ding-dong loopy

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Re: Ctrl-Alt-Delete

I'm somewhat surprised the most messy tax system known to human kind in this Unverse has not yet been mentioned: our sublime french system.

I need to renovate part of my house, and here is what I've been blessed with:

http://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/deploiement/p1/fichedescriptiveformulaire_8418/fichedescriptiveformulaire_8418.pdf

All of this because there are 2 VAT ratios, 10% and 5.5 %, depending on which work is carried on.

I'm sure noone sane will go through all of this, but rest assured when you have (as I've done myself), you still need to read the article of Code des Impôts it refers, in order to know which ratio you'll get.

Awesome.

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Last year was utter rubbish. Thanks for being part of it!

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Cracking, really

"Is it Facebook’s fault that you spent the year uploading pictures of demised pets, crematorium jars, and cheating boyfriends? Is it up to Facebook to decide that you didn’t want to be reminded of all those workplace selfies you posted of you urinating in the boss’s waste bin shortly before being sacked, or that you were accidentally tagged in 200 images of revenge porn?"

This one just cracked me up. Nice one, Monsieur Dabbs.

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Renault Captur: Nobody who knows about cars will buy this

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Re: An ideal car for the French market

"I once asked a group of French ski instructors why they all used "Atomic" skis, when the brand had a piss-poor reputation of snapping in half after a weeks gentle use."

Hmm,

I agree the french market is chock-full of people that "buy french", and therefore, we indeed build crap to maximize income. Note it is now changing, as Peugeot learnt their lesson, after shafting their customer base for one decade, basically building cars with all parts to be replaced within 30 000 km, at insane costs.

However, Atomic is actually a good ski brand. I have a handfull of Atomic skis and they are great and don't snap, at least if you're under 150 kg :-)

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Google unveils Windows 8.1 zero-day vuln – complete with exploit code

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Re: 90 days?

"I find their attitude astounding. More arrogance from the chocolate factory, as usual."

Whether this is arrogance or anything else is irrelevant. As has been said already, Google IS the internet for Joe User.

The point is, with people like MS, who have utterly failed to even think about security in their OS (remember 4-5 years back, when they said they would put security at the core of Windows and all dev processes ?), don't give a f**k, and don't have a clue, you need to break their arm to get get any bloody security fix.

This is what Google is doing.

Arrogant ? Maybe. But this is in the interest of users, pending their migration to other solutions ...

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Internet Explorer 12 to shed legacy cruft in bid to BEAT Chrome

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FFS, it's been the same code for decades !

From IE 6 up to IE 11, it's all been the same thing again and again, along multiple decades !

Only some UI changes, some ActiveX deactivation (late), but that's all, same code, same patches over and over again, same bloody virus nest ...

It's too late, MS, for a rewrite you've been promising for too long, now, move along, mates, you're now history to Web browsing ...

Security awareness were promised decades ago, again, move along, this didn't happen.

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VMware says anyone - not just EMC - can play with its best bits

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Fo sure, confused

"No wonder investors are confused."

Well, if Vmware strategy is anything to go by, surely, they'll continue to be more and more confused !

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It's nearly 2015 – and your Windows PC can still be owned by a Visual Basic script

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JPEG, really ?

Back in the days, the JPEG group had provided the code to read all the format ...

Is it their code which was faulty (hardly believe it) or any defective further implementation in whatever MS basic ?

Now, I'm worried.

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Drone in NEAR-MISS with passenger jet at Heathrow airport

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Re: disaster waiting to happen

"we're all very cool, aren't we, until a passenger jet DOES go down. Given the steep rise in popularity, this is bound to happen :("

I'm with you AC, on this one. A small airliner (2 engines) is likely to be impacted seriously in case of impact with a drone, to the point the pilot may not be able to recover the situation. Heck, The 2010 flight Rio-Paris was downed by one 30 s incident (recovered after that, therefore plane was fully functional) and the 2 pilots panicking and stalling the plane for what, 4 mins before crash !

Imagine them losing one engine out of 2 at 200 m altitude during landing !

So, a drama WILL happen, and then relevant authorities will likely install radio detectors for drones (triangulation of radio freq ?) around airports, and I take it, also shooting devices.

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Linus Torvalds releases Linux 3.18 as 3.17 wobbles

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Re: Linux future

"It'll all be fine after Torvalds. Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers can take over. Only they can make the "Open Source community [..] one happy place"."

Quite possibly you are sarcasting. But, truely, this could happen: bunch of crazy egos forking the kernel everywhere. Scary.

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systemd row ends with Debian getting forked

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Re: Hasn't this happened already with Upstart?

Is it just me, or I'm starting to see why SysVinit is script-based ?

This was to avoid ANY dependency ! Dependencies are a complete evil,

and the only way is likely to have the start sequence be script-based ...

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One year on, Windows 8.1 hits milestone, nudges past XP

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No more Windows for me

I know there will always be people hoping Windows N+1 will be freaking awesome, good for them.

But if you have a look at the last versions of Windows (from XP to 8.1), it's always the same thing, with a completely different UI, because some idiots thought they needed to change all the UI to justify the tax.

Same goes with MS Office (from 2003 to 2010): very few improvements to speak of, change of UI, new bugs ...

Today, and MS hasn't got that, almost no-one can afford, each and every 2 years, to spend 2 weeks solid, to learn the new UI, before being able to work.

I can't, I don't want to, and f**k them !

Since they haven't understood, they're history in the whole house.

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Netflix: Sacre vache! French resistance from the vestibuleurs de consommation

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Re: Joker in French is just "joker"

"You chose to complain about this, instead of "vestibuleurs de consommation"??"

Ah ah ! Or the whole "french" title for what matters. Has anyone decoded what they meant by that ? Is Jar Jar Binks working at El Reg ?

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Leaked screenshots show next Windows kernel to be a perfect 10

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just marketing

MS has already shown their Windows versioning system to be upper marketing bollocks.

8, 8.1, 10, then probably freaking 20 and so on.

It doesn't come as a surprise the kernel versioning system is going the same way ! Always the same code, with a crapped on UI, but V20.0 vs. V2.1, people will pay for it, yay ! Same goes with IE, from 6.0 to 11.0 ... And patches going for all 6 versions ...

Frankly, move along, nothing to see here ...

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Alcatel-Lucent buries EDGE routers in x86 server fleet

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Re: Virtualize hardware?

Years ago, many people would say that of OSes, now they're more or less all virtualized, because chips can't go faster anymore (since years) and actually can only be better by having more cores/functionnal units.

Same goes for network stuff: it is possible to have special cicuitry for network on current mass market CPUs (ARM or X386 or anything else). This will rapidly bring virtulized LAN systems on-par with ASICs based classical systems, therefore they will prevail.

Exactly the same happened for virtual OSes: their performance was sub-par without special virtualisation HW API that brought them, at the end, on-par.

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Latest Firefox and Thunderbird updates plug CRITICAL SSL vuln

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funny small mistake

" a security researcher at Prosecco"

No, he's working for french INRIA (Institut National de Recherche en Informatique Appliquée). It's his team whose name is Prosecco.

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Hey, what's a STORAGE company doing working on Internet-of-Cars?

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Really ?

"With predictive maintenance, auto manufacturers will be able to gain insights such as key maintenance data points and the ability to predict wear over time. The outcome is lower costs of service and support, and increased driver satisfaction."

Let's wait until we see this for real.

I have yet to own a car which is able to signal about my brake pads being gone, so the M2M hype is probably gonna wait another couple of decades ...

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'Windows 9' LEAK: Microsoft's playing catchup with Linux

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Pirate

MS always bleeding edge ... not

First time I saw the concept of multiple workspace was early nineties, I think with the twm windows manager. I think, from memories, it was also available on SunOS 4 SUN workstation ...

So yeah, good job, MS for bringing those ideas in 2015 ...

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It's a pain in the ASCII, so what can be done to make patching easier?

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Re: Windows.

"Still not ready for the desktop.

Discuss."

The very slight disagreement with this would be the word "still". I think XP was OK as a desktop, but all the rest after, including 7 has been utter bollocks as far as desktop goes.

Heck, I built a Win 7 VM a while ago, and it took me a stunning one week (day and night) to bring it up to current patching level ! One freaking week !

If you screw your mac's OS, it takes no time to restore from backup (yes, I know, a couple of bugs with Maverick as far as restore goes, but still), and only 1.5 day to install from scratch via internet (on a 2.5 Mbps link). And patching occurs only every 6 months or so, and they're bundled, not distributed into 100s of sets that take forever to download. Updating a Mac takes no time and a single reboot, while Windows is now a permanent download/reboot thing.

I still remember when this bloke brought me a Win 7 laptop not booted since 6 month as a tool for a jogging race. Upon plugging it to WIFI, 5 hours after, after everything was finished (on my Mac), it was still updating and was still unusable !

Redmond will need to change their OS update schema or they will loose even more to OS X and/or Linux.

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Dodgy Norton update borks UNDEAD XP systems

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Re: equips tinfoil hat

"Norton AV has been a disaster area since 2007. Uninstall it already. MSSE should be enough for anyone."

Not sure about the date, but indeed the darn thing has been shite for years. Too intrusive to OS, and not providing any significant cover.

Use avast, destroy anything bearing the Norton tag you can see ...

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