167 posts • joined 19 Dec 2007
Another sensible decision from the European courts which will be ignored. Even if it gets to the stage of being fined for non compliance I can't imagine the government relaxing the data dragnet.
Convenient that the government wants to negotiate which EU laws they can ignore at will this is bound to be somewhere near the top of the list. Entire data retention policy is ridiculous there is no need for everything on everyone to be held for anything more than a month in my opinion. Even one month could be considered excessive but if for nothing other than billing purposes some data needs to be retained for a short while.
Surely there reaches a point where the diminishing cost of providing support is offset by the amount of business it loses you. Left Pipex a number of years ago after there once excellent support was outsourced after being bought out. Couldn't get them to understand the most basic of issues and they wanted to send a BTengineer (which I would be billed for if no fault found) when the issue was clearly there end.
Also left giffgaff and BT for similar reasons. When staff are only able to deal with issues on a list and your problem falls outside of those it becomes it's own version of room 101. A swift legal threat in one case got me a refund and away from one. The filing of legal papers got me released from the other. If nothing else at least legal teams seem to have a little more sense but it shouldn't have to come to that to get the most basic of service.
Re: What fools
Obvious trolling and I shouldn't bite but...
If you genuinely believe governments should be monitoring all electronic communications what the hell have you been smoking. How about in real life, lets imagine for a moment ten years down the line there are another series of leaks outlining how the government is using microphones and cameras on every connected device to monitor all conversations would you also think this is something they should be doing?
I take it you view 1984 as an instruction manual rather than a cautionary tale?
Sleepwalking into a total surveilance state has gone on for too many years mainly down to idiots parroting if you've nothing to hide then nothing to fear. Since your so certain no one is interested and theres no harm would you mind popping your email address and password on here?
Just to clarify the reason governments aren't volunteering details on surveilance methods isn't because of clueless sheeple instead as we have discovered due to Snowdon it's because they are either illegal or a totally unnecessary invasion of privacy.
How do you feel about the US monitoring all european communications, or if your that side of the atlantic how do you feel about GCHQ in the UK monitoring yours?
AC because you work for who exactly? Guessing it's a company that makes a lot of money from selling the kit necessary for the monitoring or your an out and out shill.
The sooner the US are not involved and don't have oversight the better. But I really doubt anyone is seriously worried about another Nation being able to wrest control. Even if it was a serious risk I'm sure most of the planet would prefer it wasn't the US or UK down to NSA/GCHQ games. Why not give it to the swiss to run?
Not sure what business your in but I think any company would find it benefitial to get a peek at competitors plans. You dont need to be copying products there are plenty of ways to leverage an advantage beyond stealing technology. I only raised this as a possibility personally think its unlikely to have gone down this way.
Brings me back to a point I raised earlier though it goes beyond sloppiness for this sort of error to appear currently. All technology companies are well aware of the growing backlash against NSA / GCHQ even the appearance of cooperation is enough to lose what little trust remains. Any inbuilt weakness similar to those previously engineered by the NSA is going to be jumped on publicly.
Re: Apple just isn't world class in security, and never have been
Is it really beyond thinking the NSA could have made a you scratch my back reciprocal deal? For example by agreeing to hand over to Apple anything they can find on a certain Korean firms future plans. Not so long ago this type of thought would have fallen firmly in the tinfoil hat area. These days though who knows, that type of spying for US companies has been rumoured since the early days of echelon.
Sloppiness around this sort of security is inexcusable for a company with their resources. Even if unintentional people are likely to assume otherwise in the current climate.
Deliberate or accidental? Not beyond thinking at the moment to wonder if this could have been deliberate or that they received some form of payment or other advantage for doing so.
Re: It's what a witch would say
Its not just that they may want to lie but legally they may have to. Current US law means no one can be trusted to tell the truth which is bad news for everyone, mainly the consumers but all parties suffer.
Ah gay Paris, no one has realised it's nothing to do with industrial pollution. I'm convinced this is purely down to Gitans.
So pretty much like spotify free, after trial period anyway. Except Spotify is available in this country.
Someone get that lad a hollowed out Volcano pronto.
Pricing will be way off, if they were around £100 for the basic and £120 for the other then maybe.
Likely be priced at least double that limiting the number of people willing to jump to a new platform.
Would bet that the EOL date changed after the release of 8.1, up till then MS probably thought they could salvage Windows 8 and turn perception around. As things stand it's distinctly possible that 8 may never surpass 7 in terms of install base and a lot of people will jump 8 altogether.
They obviously learnt nothing from Vista pretty shocking that two out of the last three releases have flopped big style.
As has been said many times here and elsewhere they really need to try listening to feedback from users/customers rather than insisting they know best.
A few weeks ago i would have agreed with 90% of the comments on here. Had played with Win 8 for about 20 minutes on a desktop and found it confusing and a bit of a mess.
Bought a new laptop last week that came with Win 8. Boots in seconds and with a touch display I'm finding that i actually like it. First few days very frustrating but after watching a ten minute you tube video sussed out what I needed to.
Despite me liking it when using touch still seems crazy to force it on desktop users or non touch laptops. With touch though I think TIFKAM is actually not bad and worth giving a chance. Is a very big difference whem compared to the interface on Win 7 and I think that's enough to put most people off.
Surely I'm not the only reader of El Reg to like it? For me using a combination of keyboard shortcuts, touch pad motions and touch I can use it far quicker than I managed with Win 7. Understand YMMV but for me with this machine it seems a nice clean modern OS.
Re: For Carl
Just reading those words and hearing Carl's voice in my head is enough to send a tingle down my spine.
Surprised how small the earth looked from our nearest planetary neighbour though.
Re: @Trevor_Pott: What have you been smoking?
Can only speak to my own experience here and not the OP's but whenever I hear a libertarian talk about how they wished their country truly was libertarian paradise I always wonder why don't they move to the one libertarian paradise on earth Somalia?
Yet people will still flock to the cloud. Even though service can be cancelled with no notice and on a whim when the provider gets bored or goes tits up.
Could be wrong but weren't a lot of "analysts" predicting stock shortfall well into the new year due to yield issues with the display?
So what's going on lower than predicted demand or were the experts full of shit as usual?
Still haven't seen a review yet adressing the key questions. Will it run full versions of Football Manager and Civ? Thats about the only productivity I'm interested in.
Re: Headline exageration or just plain Flamebait?
Sensationalism, Click Bait?
Almost as bad as the Daily Star !
So are you new round here or just forget which site your on?
Despite some genuinely great articles El Reg headlines are always click bait of the worst order. Usually worth a read anyway just not necessarily for the reason you would assume from the headline.
The transmitting via audio sounds fishy. Fair enough most modern machines are capable of receiving and translating code sent that way. But would they do so unless already infected or set up specifically to do this?
By no means an IT expert never mind security but doesn't seem plausible to me. Unless the average desktop or laptop is constantly set to look for and run code sent this way why would it work?
Fully expect someone to correct me but it just doesn't make sense to me.
Thanks Simon always enjoy the BOFH. But is it a little unreasonable of me to ask since we only get one a month now could they be a little longer please?
That would be an easy fix and for that reason isn't likely to happen. As far as I know no legislation along those lines is being proposed but could really help bring in some much needed tax revenue. Would imagine heavy lobbying against it if Vince suddenly grew a pair and started pushing for it.
Totally depends on international cooperation. Could be extrememly useful if implemented properly with the right agreements in place.
What I would expect is lots of dead ends. Yes you may be able to identify the owner of a british shell but when the owner turns out to be a private trust based out of the Dutch Antilles what chance then.
Could be mistaken but too much money and effort invested in this sort of financial hide and seek for me to think this will work.
Re: "Cameron's Conservative party have promised...
Is that the same Cameron that promised pre election no top down restructure of the NHS, then once in power proceeded to pass the profitable parts off to his mates and party donors?
Naughty Samsung sure that fine is really going to sting and dent their profits.
Come on by now who still takes forum posts or online reviews at face value? By no means minimising what Samsung did but anyone really think they are the only company up to this sort of shenanigans. Crap like this is what's made trip advisor and the likes useless.
Re: is this the same Facebook
Their attitude here is pathetic We wont prevent people uploading snuff clips but don't dare upload a breastfeeding image as that could obviously corrupt minds and cannot be allowed.
Doesn't have to be nipples either sometimes too much cleavage in a pic and it gets flagged. To say nothing of false positives flagged by the nudie detector.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Amazon are forbidding sellers that want to use Amazon marketplace from selling their wares cheaper anywhere else. Is this not exactly the behaviour that got Apple in trouble when they used these type of deals to screw Amazon on ebook prices?
If I remember rightly they were opposed to it then so I wonder if something has changed or are they hypocrites of the worst sort?
So answer everything honestly and face jail time in the US. Fail to answer honestly and face issues with the EU.
My bet they send someone without full knowledge of what's being intercepted plausible deniability and all that. Just don't expect an honest answer either way.
Still surprised at the lack of backlash against US orgs over this. Betting their are some nervous cloud providers that side of the Atlantic though.
Expect to see data prices jump
Since the networks usually compete on the line rental price and voice and text aren't a way of generating lots of revenue these days I only see one outcome. Expect data prices to start moving to US levels once this legislation gets pushed through. In fact even if not expect it anyway.
Whether cracked or using a workaround I really can't see it preventing piracy. What I would expect is the usual consumer issues with equipment not playing back due to one of these systems not liking your set up.
Surely I'm not the only one running into problems when my kit says it's not connected to a DCHP compliant screen when it is.
Just see the whole effort as pointless. Wont impact on piracy but will inconvenience paying users.
Because every other attempt at securing digital files has gone so well. CSS springs immediately to mind.
Expect this to be cracked by the time consumer kit launches or shortly after.
So why don't Google block infringing websites?
Probably because it's not their place to determine what is and isn't legal and if they started acting that way there would be a huge uproar.
Also there's the fact they make a lot of advertising revenue serving those results so driving pirates to someone else's search engine would lose them a small fortune.
Wasn't there something mentioned when they started blocking kiddy porn that the system wouldn't be used to block other things?
Re: "There's an app for that"
Was about to post how trivial it would be to get around but you beat me to it.
Complete waste of time but will appeal to the mumsnet and daily fail lot so obvious why it's going ahead.
Still feel it's a very slippery slope to start down. Would be more comfortable if they agreed to publish a list of blocked sites to ensure this doesn't start being abused for other purposes. Who am I kidding that it will be abused became obvious the moment it was announced.
Surely there are more important things for the government to be focussing on like dreaming up new ways of demonising the poor?
Don't believe the hype
Really can't see it happening so don't get your hopes up.
Free on contract yes, free as a sim free purchase would be insane. Even if $100 is enough to cover hardware costs and patent costs.
Had Android for four years now and that's probably what I've spent in that time. Even including ad revenue just don't see how they can project decent revenue from these. Do they really expect people to buy so much media that it will pay for itself?
Could see the sense of doing it with a kindle but not on a phone.
Re: Reshuffle off this mortal coil...
My original thought when seeing the headline was IDS will be for the chop. It seems now though he's blaming the civil servants for a failure to correctly manage the project don't they all report to someone perhaps the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions?
Is that not then his responsibility and no one elses?
The universal credit was his baby from the start and if he did see problems two years ago and still went ahead then he should resign. Not bloody likely though at the moment he needs to line up a few more directorship's and board seats first.
Re: Usefulness of the results?
Agree the current voting system could be better. Even the daily fail can manage a system that doesn't involve leaving the page.
Re: How many lives
Do you happen to work for a private health provider? Whenever I hear someone suggest a US style system I just shudder.
Re: Top speed?
So bloody useless then, agree completely nothing but a toy. I'm betting a fun one to play with but a toy nonetheless.
Then again there's always version two.
Re: @jake - Do not want.
Yes you can!
30 minute flight time doesn't tell youmuch without details on top and cruising speed.
Would this actually allow me to commute which is around a 70 mile round trip?
Quite impressed with the altitude but I wouldn't fancy being at 8000 feet during a thunderstorm.
Wow just wow, they are obviously in the wrong here but you got to admire there balls.
Re: Really ?
I was wondering about that as well. Other than a sizzle or crackle just what noise can a roast chicken make?
I'm talking about the people who bought machines at the time XP was the only choice not current marketshare. There must be a crazy number of machines out there. MS is about to expose the means to render them useless.
Still not 100% convinced thye should be forced to. Response to another post above says some versions are getting longer support. Why can't they do that for all types of XP not just Enterprise ones?
Been mulling over the idea whether they should be forced to cotinue to support. Since it could be argued that they will be responsible for exposing the holes they should fix them. Surprised the EU or no one else has mentioned they have a responsibility that comes with the near monopoly status XP had for so long.
Can also see problems with this as how long can they reasonably be expected to continue to support it. Should it be tied to the number of active users?
Not that I would buy an iPhone but one in chrome or platinum could like nice. Is gold not just a little trashy these days though?
Since BT insist on bundling the pile of shite thats BT vision if you want a decent internet package we have had vision for around three years.
Moved home last december and didnt bother hooking the box up until today as my kid wants to watch the football channels.
Noticed they have a nicer interface now but the selection of content hasn't really improved. Assume nothing has changed and they still constantly recycle the same content.
For anyone tempted to jump to BT vision for the (very limited) football don't bother it seems brilliant at first glance but you soon realise they spend peanuts on content. So something will be available to stream for a few months will disappear for a short while then promoted as new content a few weeks down the line when it reappears.
Re: Peak Facebook ?
Don't be ridiculous as Zuckerberg keeps telling investors exponential growth can be maintained they just need to partner up with active SETI.
Even more than Facebook I never understood the value. People are fickle and quick to move onto the next thing.
Way outside my area of expertise but I'm curious a out liability. Lets say for example I use Amazons cloud service to attack ebay and manage to bring it down for a while. Can ebay then go after Amazon or do they get some form of safe harbor protection and ebay can only come after me?
Just seems potentially someone could make a lot of mischief pitting large orgs against each other in this way. Then again I could be totally clueless and arent understanding correctly.