18 posts • joined Tuesday 18th December 2007 21:11 GMT
That the commenters on here all pile in to say how pointless 20mp on a mobile is. They are probably right, but the 1080p video capture is the cool thing here. The phone sensor is well capable of that..
Great but unreliable
Just had an email to an @nlworld.com address bounce. Not at home so no idea if internet is down, but it wouldn't suprise me.
I have 50 meg and generally love it - I get full speed a lot of the time and it's great. Except when it goes down, which is generally a couple of times a month for at least a few hours (the last one a few weeks ago was over a day!!).
Years ago (15 of them, probably!) I saw a demo of a Philips no-glasses 3D display, and it blew my fragile little mind (I was only little..). So they've had the technology for ages, but it really is a case of market demand + content availability.
It really was impressive, though.
@AC: Great phone #
Reg Readers might not blink at having to install Google Maps, but most people (normobs) wouldn't know that it exists, let alone how to download and install it (no fancy on-device app stores in sight for samsung).
So installing nice bits of software on devices before shipping them is actually very important in selling the idea of what a smartphone can do.
It can't be a phone!
You obviously didn't notice the key words in text that you quoted.. the ones that said "for me", as in "they rule it out FOR ME as a phone".
Some people do require their phones to do these things! Once you have had a phone that does, it is very hard to move to a phone that doesn't.
Maybe we shouldn't call them phones, then you would be happy? How about multimedia computers? Oh.. Nokia already got that one ;)
Seriously though - a lot of people seemt to come on here and comment to the effect of "why on earth would a phone need a (camera/gps/radio/coffee maker) as long as it can make calls". There are plenty of phones out there which are perfect for those people, but some people DO want all the extra features, and believe it or not do actually use them!
And the other argument is usually "why do I want a camera on my phone when I have a perfectly good (compact/dslr/photo studio)?". Well because I don't want to carry about a massive camera, however I do always carry about my phone! And I appreciate that my phone snaps won't be stunning, but they do the job.
To use your analogy, in this case the BBC did not break into someone's car - they found a car that had been broken into, and drove it back to the owner, then left a note suggesting that they lock it in the future.
Happy N85 owner
It's solid, functional, reliable (almost strangely so for an early firmware version these days), and the screen kicks ass (being OLED, the screensaver can permanently light up small bits of the screen with time/date/etc without using backlight, which is rather nifty).
It's basically the N95 in a smaller package, with small improvements all over. Although nothing earth-shattering new, the Fm transmitter / OLED screen / USB charging / newer operating system / keylock button / etc make it a worthy upgrade IMO.
(Didn't fancy the N96 at all - a monster with useless DVB, and 16gb of memory which i've put in the N85 with an SD card anyway).
The navi-wheel is useless though - turned that off after 5 minutes!
A few years ago, some of the simpsons voice cast were on the BBC, but refused to do anything 'in-character' at all as this was against policy/not authorised.
Mr Groening isn't gonna be pleased methink!
case won't fit back>
I would have thunk that a battery would have to swell considerably less than "several times it's original size" for the phone cover not to fit on... in fact just a few percent would probably do it.
GPS on smartphone is good
I've been using my phone as my sat-nav for about 3 years, with TomTom Navigator running on my last 3 Nokia S60 phones (first with a bluetooth GPS, then more recently with the built-in GPS on my N95).
The screen isn't massive, but it's big enough for me. It also has the advantage of being connected, so it can look up traffic/weather/etc data on-the-fly without having to connect it to my phone via bluetooth. It is always with me, and can't get nicked from the car because it doesn't get left there.
TomTom have not updated their software for about 2 years now, however :(, which means out-of-date maps and none of the fancy mapshare features seen in their PNDs. They don't seem to see the market for smartphone GPS - every nokia N-Series phone released now comes with a built-in GPS.
5800 != iPhone. Why is that a bad thing?
I can't help to but laugh at most of the comments above!
First of all, everyone is comparing this to the iPhone. It's never going to be an iPhone. If it was the same as the iPhone how pointless would it be?
The 5800 is priced at £215 sim-free, before subsidy. The iPhone is £350 on PAYG for the 8gb version (PAYG is subsidised..).
This is the (mid-range) first in a line of Nokia touchscreen phones; there will be more expensive ones in the future which will probably cost more, onboard storage, better camera, larger screen etc - but this phone is, in theory, selling to a different segment of the market than the iPhone.
I say in theory but we all knew that the first touch-screen phone from Nokia would be compared to the iPhone, regardless.
I would like an iPhone, I really would, but it just doesn't do stuff that I currently use my phone to do (Slingplayer, TomTom, Half-decent camera, Video Recording, AD2P). I'll probably be going for an N85 for my upgrade.
(I would never buy the 5800, being the first phone to use a new version of S60(v5). Give it a while for for some decent app support to arrive)
But it's crap.
The site used to have some character, now it just looks like a-n-other website.
Fixed-width really does suck, and the font is too small.
It feels like i'm not seeing as many stories on the front page without scrolling.
The selection of comment titles needs to come back as well.
Seriously! There was just no need!! WHY???
My connection just came back, after just about exactly 24 hours out (in Reigate).
We also had a couple of hours' outage on Friday! Not too impressive... although it's been a long time (years) since the last major problem. In my experience, i'd still take this over ADSL!
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