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A console doesn't need to be as high spec as a general purpose system, although the idea of steambox gives up some of the traditional console advantages in favour of flexibility...
On a system which is designed solely for gaming, you won't be running all kinds of other cruft in the background so at the very least you need less memory, less cpu and less disk space. It's also likely that SteamOS, although linux based will be significantly stripped down to remove things which are not necessary for gaming - similar to what MS have done with the xbox.
Ofcourse on a traditional console the hardware is static, so you can do away with the overhead of an OS and driver layers entirely. Many Amiga games did this because performance was significantly better, and AmigaOS is considered extremely lightweight and efficient compared to modern systems.
Re: lost the plot
IA64 was killed by closed source software... If you were running all open source code they actually ran quite well, i had a couple of them running linux and all the typical stuff compiled and ran on them just fine.
If Intel were to introduce a new architecture aimed at Android, ChromeOS or Linux it would have a much better chance of succeeding as not only could Intel port these systems themselves instead of relying on someone else, but most of the existing applications would run with little more than a recompile anyway.
Arguably Intel should come out with a new architecture, the legacy baggage of x86 is a millstone around their neck such that even being a step ahead on fabrication tech they are still having trouble competing with arm. If they were to come up with a new architecture designed specifically for power efficient applications they could easily get themselves ahead of arm.
x86 is only beneficial for users who are stuck with a lot of legacy closed-source code...
Linux and other open source is architecture agnostic, we used to run linux on alpha when it was the fastest available, and we run linux on arm or mips now for low power systems.
It was closed source code above all else that killed itanium... Linux runs quite well on it, but windows as a joke - the core os would run but you had virtually no apps and 99% of windows apps dont come with source so you cant recompile them yourself.
When it comes to content creation, Apple are a big player... Wintel is mostly relegated to boring business desktops and gamers.
A big shake up will happen sooner or later, the idea of an extremely complicated system like windows being used by average users is ridiculous... Why should users be expected to manage updates for a myriad of different applications, maintain antivirus and firewall rules etc. Non technical users are better off with walled garden devices like ipads or chromeos devices.
Even business desktops will eventually ditch windows, once there are a large enough set of users running non-ms tools then interoperability becomes essential, at which point the only real advantage ms ever had is gone... If they're no longer locked in, very few businesses will choose expensive, insecure, unreliable windows, and will go for something else install - probably linux.
Indeed they did...
They removed the otheros option through an update, and in doing so if you had already installed something you lost access to all your own data too (it was still there but you had no way to access it). You then have a choice between not updating and being able to keep the os you installed but not being able to connect to psn or play any new games, or update and lose access to the software you had installed.
Re: What a bunch...
The assumption is that if you're in zone 1 you're either extremely rich or running a business, and should therefore be going for business class leased lines instead of consumer grade connections like DSL. Zone 1 is a complete ghetto as far as consumer level broadband goes.
Media tends to be massively overpriced in Australia compared to other countries, and then there are artificial barriers in place to try and prevent Australians from buying cheaper copies from foreign countries. Is it any wonder then that people are pissed off and turn to alternative sources?
Screw your customers and they will stop buying your product, and if they cant get it from other sources they will do without it at all rather than feel cheated by exorbitant prices.
Re: I guess the issue is.....
You don't sell or rent ip addresses of either the v4 or v6 variety, doing so is explicitly against the ripe rules... You can only charge a one off "admin fee" for provisioning the addresses to the customer.
What did these developers honestly expect when they developed for a proprietary API locked to a proprietary service provided by only a single vendor? And now they are reduced to getting down on hands and knees and begging that vendor not to screw them over.
If you'd made SIP compatible devices then they would all still be working and you'd have literally hundreds of providers to choose from too.
I have always avoided skype, and this is one of the main reasons why.
nobody complains that iPads can't run OSX software
Apple never did anything to make people believe that the ipad would ever be capable of running OSX software, it was always a standalone product with its own identity.
Anything branded as "windows" will cause people to believe that it's compatible with other products using the same branding, which causes disappointment and/or anger when users find out thats not the case.
Re: Windows RT
Windows RT is to iOS as Windows is to Mac OS - with one very important difference - BRANDING.
The "Windows" brand is associated with desktops and a large block of existing software, something with the same brand but no compatibility results in angry users who can't run their existing apps. iOS may be based on the same kernel as OSX but it never did anything to imply any level of compatibility between the two.
Similarly, the "Windows" brand is toxic, it's not popular its simply ubiquitous, people are stuck with it and aren't aware of competitors in its core market, once you take a toxic brand to a market where it does have visible competition people will try to avoid it.
Stick with watermarking
They should stick with watermarking, and ditch the attempts at encryption and access restriction...
Let me watch content on any device i choose, let me exercise my fair use rights, let me make copies for personal use, let me format shift etc...
Stop screwing over the users, and the users will feel less inclined to screw you back.
Only if you are counting from 2005, you could not have purchased a mac in 2005 which would still be capable of running the latest version of OSX... You would have bought new hardware at least once in that time, which would have come with a then-current version of OSX anyway.
Doomed to repeat...
Despite all the pain associated with being locked in to xp and various other microsoft technologies, very few of their victims seem to be looking at ways to prevent this happening again. If you just migrate your apps so that they are now locked into windows 7 (or 8) instead of xp, then you will have the exact same problem a few years down the line.
Now is the time to look at cross platform, especially open standards html based applications... Not only will they run in multiple browsers today, but they will still work in tomorrow's browsers and will run on ipads etc too.
Re: Here we go again
Largely because the only people i've ever seen buying windows phones are those migrating from dumbphones, who simply aren't used to browsing from a mobile and are often on prepay sims without a data allowance so wouldn't use it anyway.
Basically they use them as dumbphones, and only bought them because they were being offered very cheap.
Re: Are they splitting hairs?
Unless google actually host services in france, why should they follow french law?
There are thousands of websites out there which are perfectly legal in one country, but highly illegal in another... What makes the law of france any more valid than any other country?
Pornography is illegal in many countries, as is criticising the government etc...
What is needed however, is education for the users... Users should have it made clear to them that by submitting their data to a foreign site they will not be protected by their own local data protection laws, and depending on the laws in the country where the site is operated they may not have any data protection whatsoever on their side.
Re: More and more frustration...
Most of us like the idea of competition, but dislike the idea of anything from microsoft.. As you pointed out competition is good and monoculture is bad, yet the biggest example of how a monoculture is bad is microsoft and the risk that they could do the same to the phone/tablet market is one that cannot be ignored.
A monoculture of android is undoubtedly a bad thing, but they are not there yet... There is still plenty of viable competition from apple and i would rather support blackberry/webos/jolla/firefox/etc than microsoft.
That said, a monoculture of android is nowhere near as bad as a monoculture of microsoft... If google stagnate, then third parties can continue development, just look at the recent announcement from cyanogen.
Yes competition is good, but given how much microsoft have done to stifle competition in other markets there are many of us who want to avoid them ever getting any form of traction in other markets out of fear of the same things happening again.
There are plenty of other competitors to android/ios who would be far better for the overall market.
Oracle are systematically destroying everything they got from sun, including any good will sun ever built up over the years...
Many former sun customers, as well as former solaris users are now going out of their way to migrate to something else.
Re: "The idea that rpm and dpkg are anything like as user-friendly as setup.exe is a joke."
The state of updates on windows is even worse than that...
The core windows update is buggy, it's not like a proper package manager where every file belongs to a specific package, and every package has specific versions... Windows updates are binaries which may replace files, may add files to be replaced on the next boot, may make other changes or perform other actions, all with no central control... It's common for updates to fail, or mark themselves as installed even while failing (e.g. those that mark files to be replaced on the next reboot will often mark themselves as applied before the reboot has happened, and the file replacement may fail on the next reboot resulting in a partially applied update.
And the situation is even more ridiculous for third party apps... With no central update system, third party apps have to handle updates themselves and all the methods they use seem to be flawed in one way or another.
Some have an update service running in the background, a few of these and your system soon slows down...
Some check for updates when you actually run the program, which falls apart if your running as a non admin user, or happen to be without internet connectivity when you run the program.
Some do nothing, and expect you to manually go to their website to check for updates!
And with all these different inconsistent update mechanisms, its hugely painful when you actually want to update everything.. There are plenty of reasons to want updates to occur on demand, or only at specific times... For instance i want my laptop to download updates at night, and only when its on my hime network and not on my traffic restricted (And slow) 3g dongle.
The end result is that apps don't get updated, and become a prime target for exploitation. It's much less common for a linux user to be running a large number of outdated applications.
Re: Nice idea, but...
It has long been claimed that people won't understand or will dislike the linux package manager concept...
But those arguments are wearing a bit thin given that the two most popular smartphone and tablet platforms have copied the concept and been hugely successful.
Fact is the vast majority users much prefer having a single place where they can search for and easily download/install software and keep it up to date. It's far more convenient, not to mention safer faster and more reliable than fucking around with removable media or running the risk of downloading arbitrary binaries from potentially dodgy websites.
Re: Nice idea, but...
It's likely that your wifi wasn't supported by the version you initially installed, and some subsequent updates added a driver for it...
Similar problems occur on windows, chances are it won't support your wifi out of the box and it doesn't make it easy to find out who even manufactured your wifi card which you'd need to do before you can find the manufacturer website.
Generally when you get an OS preinstalled, it will already be configured appropriately whereas if you install it yourself there are often going to be problems with missing drivers, or worse - oem hardware which is *slightly* different to the generic versions of hardware based on the same chipsets and thus doesn't work with the standard drivers.
The biggest problem with linux is that it generally doesn't come preinstalled in its standard form, you don't hear of people having problems with android or chromeos devices, or any of the other myriad embedded devices which are linux based.
Doesn't the Linux kernel already support ARMv8? And most of the rest of the Android userland could be recompiled, or just used as-is for now since a 64bit kernel will have no problem running 32bit binaries.
Re: Reverse psychology
Only they won't simply not bother using SSL, they will try to find a more secure alternative instead...
NMap has always been a slow tool, and faster tools have existed for years... Google for `synscan', a stateless tcp port scanning tool... It just fires out packets and a second process waits for any responses that might be received.
While i disagree with what Google are doing here, considering how many times MS have done this kind of thing to others i am glad to see them getting a taste of their own medicine.
Google were always pretty clear (if you bothered to read the agreement before blindly agreeing to it) that the cost of the gmail service was that they would parse all of your email and use it to target advertising at you.
It has also always been clear that google is a us based company, and therefore beholden to us laws, and if you bothered to read up you would find that us law only applies to us citizens and non us citizens if they are located in the us. As such, the us laws which offer a right to privacy do not apply, and once your data has left your country and entered the us your own laws no longer apply to it either.
This information has always been available to anyone who ever signed up to gmail, so anyone who signed up has either decided they don't care, or blindly agreed to terms that they couldn't be bothered to take time to understand.
You can't provide an email service for free, the servers have to be paid for somehow... either indirectly through advertising, or directly via a subscription... some greedy providers may even use both methods. If you don't like the advertising model, find an email provider where you can pay for the service directly, or host a server yourself.
That's hardly surprising, the protocols outlook uses to talk to exchange (and back again) are not the sort of thing you want to be opening up over the internet... Such protocols are usually restricted to LAN use, or possibly over a VPN... And good luck getting a vpn client installed on windows rt.
Delegation is not a feature of outlook, its a server side feature which outlook just happens to provide an interface for. There's no reason that many other clients can't do exactly the same thing (and indeed several do).
As for "competing against american companies", remember microsoft were just as complicit in handing data over to the NSA as google, and by running exchange and outlook your data is once again held on systems controlled by a large american corporation which is beholden to the NSA. Sure it might physically reside on your premises, but do you honestly believe MS couldn't gain access to it and hand over all your data to the NSA should they wish to? And if you don't like it, read the licence agreement again.
At the end of the day, people use outlook because both it and exchange are entrenched and neither work properly with anything else. Not because anyone likes it, not because anyone has done a proper analysis and found it to be the best tool for the job. People generally hate outlook, and use it because it's just what they were given at work. Given a proper choice, very few people would choose it.
Re: Next step??
RedHat does not target desktop windows, it targets the server versions and is generally cheaper than them.
Linux does not cost more to support and maintain, its just down to the economies of scale that although the costs are lower, they are spread across (at present) a smaller number of sales.
Similarly, there are currently no third parties paying to have their (crapware) bundled on linux machines.
And the reason there are more updates is simply because a lot more software is bundled with the typical linux distribution, and the fact that it is updated all in one places is a significant benefit.
All that aside, OEMs are extremely foolish to stick with windows exclusively, they are dependent on the goodwill of a single supplier - a supplier who has demonstrated an ability and willingness to directly compete with them, and in a declining market to boot.
Grow a spine
Online threats are just words on a screen, they can't hurt you. Back in the days of IRC i would routinely receive threats, insults, and often dos attacks. I always found it amusing, the fact that someone is so angry and frustrated with me and yet so powerless that all they can do is spam textual insults at me.
As to this girl... She's working on a camsite to make money, and the extra attention from 4chan is helping her earn money so why is she complaining? The whole thing is probably just an act for publicity, after all if she just ignored them they would soon get bored.
Besides, most camsites offer a function so that only paying users of the site are able to post messages. She doesn't have to listen to the trolls if she doesn't want to, she is free to use that feature or move to one of the many sites that offers it.
I know several girls who work on such sites.. In general they don't do it for fun, they do it because they have no other way to earn money. And their persona on the camsite is entirely an act, they pretend to be horny and interested in the punters in order to get money out of them when in reality they are generally feeling sick about it. Given a choice between pretending to be angry/upset and getting naked for some guy that makes you feel physically sick it's not a hard choice...
For every troll hurling abuse, there will usually be some "white knights" who feel sorry for the girl and send her money.
The legal download services offer very few benefits, and many downsides relative to torrents...
Forced to stream rather than download (so cant download at off peak times and watch later etc)..
Restricted to using approved devices for viewing the content...
Forced to pay again to watch the same content on different devices.
Technology today allows for more flexibility in how we consume content, and yet they would try to arbitrarily restrict us so that we have less flexibility than we did in the days of VHS... This is just wrong
Re: My hand's not up.
On Android there is plenty of alternative...
Phones from other manufacturers who install less or no bloatware?
Re: Hmmmm corporate skewing ?
Uncracked because there's no users? i doubt firefoxos or jolla has been cracked yet either. You can bet windows phone will be cracked too if anyone cares enough. Windows RT was cracked quickly enough, and it's a very similar system.
And if they cared about security, then they wouldn't be allowing windows based desktops to access their email...
Default to HD
I find it ridiculous that the EPG doesn't default to HD versions of channels in capable receivers... Quite why anyone would ever intentionally watch an inferior quality version of the same content i have no idea.
As for reordering the EPG yourself, there are a number of more flexible non mainstream STBs out there which let you do exactly that, the dreambox series for instance.
Most cars don't support DAB by default, and most other countries don't use DAB.. If they do have digital radio it will often be using a different standard. FM is fairly universal, and easy for auto makers to include so they can then sell their cars in many different countries.
I regularly rent cars, the rental cars are all modern less than a year old vehicles from various different manufacturers and so far none of them have had DAB.
And then there's all the existing cars on the roads, many of which have integrated radios and aftermarket replacements often look quite crude and lose integration with the rest of the car.
Personally i only ever listen to radio in the car,
Chromebooks don't do as much as regular laptops? Most users never use all the features anyway, and more importantly the average user isn't technically literate enough to deal with a complex computer system, and because of this you have all manner of malware problems.
A Chromebook takes away the burden of managing a complex system, and allows the user to get on with what they want to do.
As for the google stalkware aspect... Yes that's true, but the fundamental idea of a managed computer for non technical users is a good one - we just need more choices as to who manages it rather than just google.
The KVM hypervisor has had the ability to do live storage migration for quite some time...
Windows tablets have been around for years, and always had the ability to run legacy x86 apps... They never sold well, because those legacy apps were designed for use with a keyboard and mouse and are generally difficult if not completely unusable on a tablet based interface.
Apple succeeded because they made a tablet which ran apps specifically designed for use with touchscreen input. And they were also very smart to differentiate ipad from their keyboard/mouse targeted systems.
Microsoft want to tie the whole thing together, so they are trying to sell tablets by associating them to a product that while well known, carries a lot of negative baggage.
People expect a product marketed as being windows, to:
run legacy apps (windows rt does not, and such apps run poorly on x86 tablets)
be malware prone
Or to put it another way, there is no reason why any android device couldn't run traditional unix applications, as the vast majority can be easily recompiled to run on an ARM cpu. Indeed most already have been, and there are a number of ARM based devices which do use traditional input peripherals and which do run traditional applications.
So despite how easy it is, there is virtually no interest in running traditional apps on touchscreen devices, and far more interest in creating new touch friendly interfaces for such programs.
"The simple reality is that most networks are like eggs – protected by a relatively strong shell but the inside is soft and gooey. If you manage to compromise any one thing on my network the rest will fall like dominoes."
And this is the whole problem, fundamentally flawed design.
Every device should be as hardened and closely monitored as necessary given the data on it, and every device should be configured as if it was directly exposed to the internet. If you then choose not to expose such devices you are doing so as an extra line of defence, not as your only line. And you should not accept devices which are fundamentally broken and unfixable.
Encryption is also not the answer, encrypting your hard drive is great until your machine gets compromised via a network level attack, at which point the encryption key has already been entered and the running system can access all the data.
Encryption is often misused, for instance DRM schemes where both the encrypted data and the key are provided to the user which means its mere obfuscation as opposed to proper encryption. Similarly many security standards and guidelines say you must encrypt data, but if you also need to access that data then the key must be available too... Quite often convenience wins out, and the key is kept on the same machine.
In these situations your security is not as strong as your encryption, it is only as strong as the effort required to work out how the data is obfuscated and extract the key - which for a widespread/common system only has to be done once.
What do you expect?
Being a reseller is always a dangerous short term game... Your a middleman, and an unnecessary one at that, sooner or later the vendor and/or end client will realise that they can cut you out of the picture and keep your share for themselves.
Re: Windows on servers, how noughties!
"So Eadon, what is the open source alternative to ensure and manage that only fully patched desktop clients are connecting to the corporate structure and the right bits of it in a IP6 environment."
There is no way to do this, with windows or with any other system, in ipv6, ipv4 or any other networking protocol. All this does is rely on the client running a program which verifies such settings and then reports back to the server that the client is fully patched etc. What's to stop you:
1, running the client in a fully patched sandbox/vm - so it reports back that the host is fully compliant when only the vm is and the actual host isn't.
2, modifying the software to lie to the server
3, writing your own implementation of the software which doesn't do any checks whatsoever and reports what you tell it to
There will not be any open source version of this, because open source developers see no benefit in writing fundamentally flawed software.
So instead of pretending like you can prevent arbitrary devices from connecting, open source users would concentrate on doing something useful instead - namely ensuring that any access is minimised and thoroughly logged.
The only way to be sure whats connected to your network is to have physical access to the device and install all the software on it yourself.
Re: Windows on servers, how noughties! @Eadon 05:11
"Since we're talking about new stuff, it would be best to evaluate it and offer specific arguments based on that rather than talk about track records. FUD, my good man - akin to saying that you need compile anything you want to run on Linux, no?"
New stuff which retains a lot of the old cruft...
Windows 8/2012 is still vulnerable to hash passing attacks, and its still possible to extract plain text passwords from memory.
Also, the idea of verifying any settings on an endpoint device before letting it connect is stupid, its client side security and you're relying on the client to reply truthfully. It will always be possible to lie, and the server has no way to tell, thus giving users a false sense of security.
Re: No security system should have a single point of failure
You can't make any files unreadable by the admin users...
The admin can extract the password hashes of all users, and the plain text passwords of logged in users at any time from a windows host.
Even if the permissions explicitly prevent the admin user from reading or taking ownership of the file, you can always pass the hash into another user, or elevate to system/backup users (if the backup user cannot read the data then the data won't get backed up - not a good state of affairs). There are several other things you could do too.
The problem is people who don't think outside the box, thinking that something as trivial as file permissions will stop someone with admin privileges is ridiculous. Hackers do think outside the box, and realise that most of the published security features, especially on windows, are fundamentally broken in one way or another.
Unix also cannot stop an admin user from accessing any data on the system, but it doesn't try to pretend otherwise. And it is this pretence which gives users a false sense of security, and causes them to implement half assed measures that anyone remotely competent can bypass instead of accepting the inherent risk and working out other ways to mitigate it.
It's much better to have a known risk which you fully understand, vs a risk you are unaware of because you think you fixed it and don't realise that your fix is fundamentally broken.
Re: Root password, sure, but why wasn't the data encrypted?
So you can't write to removable media?
What if you read some exploit code from the removable media, and use it to elevate your privileges such that you can disable the aforementioned software?
Also, since such software is likely a userland application rather than a kernel option, if it crashes you regain the ability to write...
Re: Root password, sure, but why wasn't the data encrypted?
Software like this has no reason to be expensive, its simply overpriced.
Prevent access to USB? Just remove the USB drivers and the system will ignore the ports and only someone with suitable privileges would be able to reinstall them.
And incidentally, USB devices are used because they are most convenient, if you block USB them people who want to extract information will use other less obvious ways.
If you leave USB enabled, but keep a log of any data written to such a device then you stand a better chance of catching someone who will often just use the easiest method to extract data. If you disable USB and assume that's an end to it, then the attacker will either find a way to re-enable it (which you wont be expecting or monitoring), or find some other way to get data out which again is less likely to be noticed...
How many organisations control what you print? How many do it in a half assed way (eg your supposed to print through a printserver which logs, but its possible to connect directly to the printer which doesn't).
How many will do an adequate search to ensure you don't enter the building carrying a tiny camera, audio recording device, modem, wireless transmitter etc?
How many sites are in such locations that would make it impossible to throw something out so that it clears the perimeter fence and falls on public land where it can be collected later?
How many networks are connected to the internet and just restricted by firewalls, and how secure are these networks? In many cases its possible to get *something* out which could be used as a covert channel, and in even more cases its easily possible to compromise the local network to such a degree that you are able to modify the firewall rulesets to suit your purposes. The average windows network is horrendously insecure, and firewalls while generally much tougher unix based systems are often administered from windows workstations which sit on a trivially ownable domain, likely the same domain as end user workstations.
You are only as secure as the weakest link, and yet many organisations waste millions trying to strengthen areas that were never their weakest link in the first place.
And how much of that 16gb of storage is actually usable?
Also of the 2 people i know who bought windows phone handsets, both of them bought them at fire sale prices where they were significantly cheaper than any android or ios handset.
For how long?
When it came out the ps3 was backwards compatible to the ps1/ps2, and it let you run your own software on it through the otheros feature...
Who's to say sony aren't simply doing a bait and switch against microsoft, and will take away these features at some point in the future.
Microsoft: "We're always listening to our customers"*
* Via the kinect system integrated into the xbox one.
And "The PC is backwards compatible with games like doom (1993)"...
Not really, to play the original version you'd typically need an emulator like dosbox. The reason doom still works is because it was open sourced and people have updated it to work on modern systems.
Re: Come on 150GB a month
Sure, start watching shows in higher quality and your bandwidth usage will increase quite significantly...
Also lots of software is now distributed online, imagine downloading a few large games from steam or xbox live etc.
Incidentally, 150GB is equivalent to an uncapped 512kbit connection.
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