65 posts • joined 15 Nov 2007
Re: Guess I'll be the bad guy
BillG; does [h] mean anything to you?
Re: We aren't back in the Jim Crow days
But why do we have those laws? And why do they apply to private businesses? I should be allowed to discriminate against religious nuts by refusing service if I so choose to.
As it stands, I can be compelled by law to perform service for people I may otherwise wish to refuse service for.
( granted, I'm guessing this only applies to protected classes and only if the reason to refuse service is because they exist in the protected class. Still .... )
Guess I'll be the bad guy
Why is it wrong to allow private businesses to refuse service to whomever they choose?
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not taking the position of religious freedom here; Not only am I not religious, I happen to think the nutters behind this bill are small minded bigots. BUT, their business is their private property. In essence. Why should they be forced to provide service/product to people they don't want to?
The premise for the bill may be reprehensible, but the results are something else again.
It's worth noting that it's a two way street; businesses could decide to refuse service to those that refuse service. We aren't back in the Jim Crow days, where the minority is without power of their own; they could very well turn around and refuse service right back.
Re: They tried to cheat
They won't find things so easy when they are in the real world
I know. Results vary, but in the harshest instances of cheating they could be promoted to management.
But of course, the cheaters by that point are already in management, so I guess it's a moot point.
Another factor that helped propagate this is MS's past shady behavior. I have no problem believing, for instance, that they would include legacy support but have disabled it in order to generate future revenue.
It's the unfortunate truth.
Re: I don't want control ( Mephistro )
Haven't you ever considered the possibility that many of those IT departments are too under-budgeted and/or under manned to perform those requests?
Of course. The problem is that, quite often, IT depts will simply say "No", or possibly "No Money" and shutdown the request.
That's not the proper way to handle it, however. You need to involve the requesting department in the entire process. Done correctly, they'll come to the same conclusion you did. But they need to feel included and that you took their request seriously.
What I've found is that when you take the time to educate other departments, not only do they stop going around IT, but they work with you to lift those constraints. IT budgets are often low because IT is "magic" to everyone out side of IT, because no one has ever taken the time to show everyone what IT actually does.
Communication is, as ever, key.
Re: I don't want control ( Peter )
I suspect they meant "obstructionists" as opposed to "gatekeeper".
Too often I've walked into IT depts where they do their best to torpedo every request. I've never really learned where IT depts get this attitude from, but it's prevalent. One of the first things I have to do anywhere I go is implement an objective approval process, complete with open communication to all involved parties.
Too often the IT decision making processes are voodoo to outside departments, precisely because there is no visibility, no communication. This breeds an environment where outside depts are resentful that IT nixed their FTP server project, and IT is resentful because of their perceived attitude problem.
Re: I don't want control
To be fair, a lot of blame belongs to IT depts too. I have run in to too many of them who act as roadblocks to new processes as opposed to assistants in building business efficiency.
I don't want control
I don't want to be in control of these projects, I just want to be involved.
It's shortsighted in the extreme for these outside departments to exclude their experts when making tech decisions. Too often I have had an outside department bring me a multi-thousand dollar software package only to be told, a) We don't have the server infrastructure for it and b) they didn't buy enough licenses and c) we don't have the network infrastructure to handle the remote sites.
Usually, it's even more basic than that; often they'll buy things that don't match their requirements. Not their "wants", but their requirements.
To say nothing about the various regulations that need to be observed.
IT, as a department, has untold amounts of experience with all things technical and regulatory. Not including them in a tech project is remarkably stupid.
As a citizen of the USA, allow me to apologize.
...although the wording here bugs the shit out of me. Had they asked me if I "believed" in evolution, I'd have probably said no, too. Belief requires faith. I do not blindly accept evolution; rather I appreciate the real, hard science that has gone into our current theory ( note: Scientific Theory, not the slang "Theory" which is more hypothesis ), and appreciate all of the hard work that we still have to do to further refine it.
But "believe in it"? It's a slap in the face to every evolutionary biologist to slap faith and belief on to the subject, and I refuse to do so.
Re: Women + IT
"A woman in IT is like a male hairdresser. There really aren't that many of them, but the ones who are there are damn good at what they do."
I disagree with this generalization. I've worked with a lot of women in IT, and they were just as competent as their male counterparts; which is to say, not at all.
Presumably there must be a female IT employee out there that CAN do the work for which she is hired, I just have never met her.
What is the definition of a "Cloud"
Does anyone know what a "Cloud" really represents? I know sales drones and managers love to throw the term around, each believing it to mean whatever is more advantageous to their own interests ( which is a hoot in meetings, let me tell you ), but neither really understands what it means. Sadly, nor do most IT folks. So sit right back and prepare to receive some serious knowledge;
A Cloud is nothing more than a S.E.P., from HHGG, almost literally. When you contract for cloud services, what you are really do is making the infrastructure "Somebody Else's Problem".
Amazon offers SEP services for companies, but it's equally possible to turn IT into a service oriented service, where other divisions of the business buy infrastructure services. Ergo, it is entirely possible to have a "private cloud" service.
( It's possibly worth noting that I have a rational need to do violence to people who use the word "Cloud" seriously. )
The market will correct
Just imagine if "Always on" does become a requirement from here on out. What a great marketing angle for the next bunch of indie developers that want to make a splash with their game concepts.
Dear EA/Microsoft: Please do make an internet connection a requirement for all of your games, single player or otherwise.
Indies have the greatest potential for great games with original ideas. Let's give them all the help we can, shall we?
"There would be no competition and therefore no reason for the browsers to continue to evolve/improve."
Not necessarily. It's not that a single company would have a monopoly ( as MS had with IE way back when ), it would actually be several different companies all competing against each other, just using a common render as a starting point. MS moving to webkit would basically mean that website incompatibilities would go by the wayside, not that development would stagnate.
In fact, I think we'd end up seeing an explosion of GUI enhancements driven by that competition.
Re: Just a thought
This sounds great until you consider how much it would cost to develop said software, the chances of getting it right ( practically nil ).
On top of that, then you need to find techs to support it; good luck with that. Unless you plan on building out a world class training system, dealing with the 1+ year plus lead time between hiring a tech and real usefulness, plus paying the wages necessary for retention...ya, it adds up quickly.
How much tax is "enough" if what they are currently doing is legal?
Seriously? I get we're supposed to be outraged, but how much in taxes should they be paying if they are currently legal? As it's legal, what additional authority gets to be in charge of "Tax moral obligations"?
This has always astounded me. Just like people, corporations will use whatever legal means necessary to save on taxes. They have every right to do so, and they have every obligation to do so. If the folks making the laws find that behavior distasteful....maybe they might make some laws to fix that behavior they find so reprehensible?
Of course they won't, because those laws are in place for a reason.
Faux outrage. Moving on.
I said it before, I'll say it again
RIM needs to bail on the hardware. They have demonstrated a unique incompetence in this area, and other companies are handing them their lunch. The App store needs to go too. In fact, the only thing they really should be focusing on is managing mobile data devices. They *should* be focusing on a point to point secure mobile solution. Indeed, they should have for a couple years now.
What do I mean by that? A client, available for all major phone platforms, that provides management and security functionality. Business email, stored encrypted on otherwise wide open devices. The ability to remotely wipe business data. To GPS track phones...the list goes on and on. They could very well have maintained their corporate presence had they jumped on board this ship years ago, but they still have a name in corporate data security and could trade on that, although it would be an uphill battle at this point.
Were I a share holder, I'be furious at the opportunities the board has continually wasted.
Re: Unimaginable corruption
Then they are a part of their con, albeit unwittingly. Which doesn't absolve them of guilt. Indeed, that it was implicit fraud based on their own incompetence should make it worse, in my opinion.
My point was, however, that Autonomy can hardly be blamed if they got a clean bill of health prior to being sold. If the purchase was based on crap financials ( which I have no problems believing is the case here ), the only culpable party is the company making the purchase.
I would *love* to see HP sue itself, but I suspect that wouldn't be good for the bottom line.
If you stop and think about this, in order for HP's claim of fraud to hold weight, the corruption would have encompassed thousands of vendors, customers and partners, or the auditors themselves.
I find it extraordinary unlikely this team could have managed such a feat given all I know about them. It's far more likely HP's management team has a broken decision making process ( shock! horror! ), and are simply trying to save their jobs and, more importantly, their egos, by portioning blame elsewhere for their screw up.
Would be nice if Google actually created something from scratch.
Oh? Why is that? They are taking good software packages and putting a high amount of polish on them. There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, you might even say that google is doing the OSS community a favor by the exposure.
To track or to not track..
"It has worked with Microsoft and the government for over three years on proposals to ensure privacy and still allow tracking without "Do not track" being turned on by default, it said, and now Redmond has acted unilaterally."
Did anyone else need to reread this a couple times before they got what was being said? So they want to track, even though consumers don't want to be tracked. And MS nixed that, instead making it the customer's choice.
And somehow, they're wrong for that decision. Is it any wonder we hate the advertising industry?
Re: made me laugh
Giggle all you want, but MS has made some serious strides towards a secure product ( I'll grant there have been some missteps ).
Anymore it's not MS product that compromises a machine, but a flaw in the application running on top of MS OSes. Not unlike many vulnerabilities that have hit linux in recent years.
The only complaint I might have with MS's security is the turn around time for releasing patches. I get the mechanics behind it, and understand them, but I still feel they could kick the patches out the door a bit quicker.
I've said it for years now...
...it's time for RIM to give up the hardware biz. They've had their butts handed to them by both Android and Apple. They lost their dominance, and they don't have what it takes to pull off the miracle of getting it back.
With that said, RIM's name still commands respect when we're talking about manageability and security of mobile threat vectors. If RIM wants to continue trading, they need to shift their focus to their server/client software; write GOOD client security management software for Android, Apple and Windows phones/tablets. Tweak their management server so it's not so...touchy. And, above all else, they need to allow corporations to run their management services without filtering through RIM's servers.
The smart phone wars are done and over, as far as RIM is concerned, and they let themselves lose. Horribly. Time to salvage what they can.
An alternative perspective
The old spy adage, which I'm going to mutilate, applies here: The spy of your enemy is only theirs so long as you aren't aware of them, then they are yours.
Employers want to play this game, that's fine, I'm better at it then they are. Whereas many people have facebook accounts for their own private use, mine was built for the sole purpose of my ( or future employers pursuing it ). Everything I post on there is designed to promote the image of a conscientious employee and caring individual that faces the issues that everyone does, but rises to meet any challenge ( you might call that my facebook page's mission statement ).
Sure, that makes me a manipulative bastard...but then that's a compliment in my book.
Having recently tried to purchase a server
I have a unique perspective, I think. I recently tried to purchase a server. Their dl160g6. What a nightmare. 1 week after the supposed ship date ( overnighted of course ), I called to inquire where my server was. Oh, harddrive shortage. ETA in may sometime. No call, no email. Nothing. So, fine, whatelse have you got on hand? I'll take those. Great, they're in the warehouse, I'll get 4 in there and get the server out to you. Another week goes by, nothing. Called them back, oh, those drives are in stock! The server isn't expected to ship until the end of march though, and no one could tell me why.
Finally, I told them to forget about the drives, just refund the cost and ship me the server. Oh, and could you send me some drive trays so I can get my own drives? Certainly! Couple days later I get the server, in pieces. No drive trays ( drives arrived same day ). The next week, the drive trays finally arrive...but they're the wrong ones.
Ended up finishing the order from server suppliers, but if this is indicative of how the process is going to be going forward, I can completely understand why their server sales are slumping. Myself, I'm researching alternate server vendors because of this experience.
" I'm sure standard DBs will go away. It's not a question of if but when."
That's...well, really naive. There's a reason standard, or rather, traditional relational databases will be around for a very long time; they work for specific data sets. A lot of datasets work very well in a relational model.
There are areas where nosql works better, no arguments. But claiming it'll replace relationals is just silly and ignorant.
They DO check the suggestion box!
I've been saying he needs to retire for YEARS. It's obvious, from his recent ( and not so recent, frankly ) efforts that he hasn't been on his A game for a while. Or B game. I'm not even willing to grant him a C game at this point.
I can't wait to see what someone competent can do with the start wars series once the torch has been passed.
And still no word to us Apps folks
Us Apps users, you know, those of us PAYING for gmail service for our domains, are still unable to log in. This despite being promised that it was only weeks away back in March.
The main complaint most of us have is not that we don't have access, but that google isn't giving us anything in the way of a concrete timeframe. We get "soon", "few weeks away", ect. That's when we hear something, which is often only after months of silence.
See here: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Apps/thread?tid=1b296c46c43d4980&hl=en
And here: http://code.google.com/p/google-plus-platform/issues/detail?id=22
To get an idea at how the apps users are being ignored.
The difference between SCO and Oracle
Oracle actually has a product which is selling. Several, in fact, though I can't help but think their database occupies the same class as novell's networking software; has a limited number of core competencies that most people will never utilize, but because the name is famous people insist on using it. Despite it's rather clunky nature.
On proper management and never losing your temper
As a manager, you play to your audience. It's a show, you see, and your audience are the veeps and directors.
You want X, and in order to motivate your crew you have to hit them where it'll do the most good. And let's not discount the reputation factor; you can be guaranteed that news of this tirade was on everyone's lips without hours after it happening. No one wants to be in that situation, and will work their ass off to avoid it.
It know it's not PC, but negative reinforcement works well in many situations.
Less a wake, more a party
Novell had an awesome product 15 years ago, I won't argue that. Best thing out there at the time.
Sadly, not much changed for them in 15 years, where as the rest of the world progessed. Having been forced to work with Novell extensively over the years, I can really only say one thing about this;
Rot in Hell novell. Your tech was crap, and I was tired of being forced to work with it.
Old man, indeed
If your definition of "old man" is "out of touch". Don't get me wrong, I actually like the public image of Bon Jovi ( music, acting and what little I've read about the guy himself ), but he's showing his ignorance here. All Jobs did was find a cash model to the already online music swapping activity. Hell, if anything, he put the music business on life support for a little while longer. The music business should be looking to him to SAVE their sorry asses.
I think the piece of the puzzle our 80's idol is missing is that music was being traded quite a bit online already, sans-Jobs. Still is, in fact. Had no one come along to start making money off of it, the music business would have run themselves in to the ground years ago, denying there was anything they could do to stop it the entire time.
Quoteth: Windows servers need much more coddling. Linux Just Works.
Er, not exactly. Windows and Linux have been neck and neck as far as OS stability for years. The main issue you run into when it comes to stability is the application running on top of it.
Now sure, you can make the case that developing on windows is faster and looser than on linux, hence there are more flaws. But after the decade I've been in this industry, I'd say both OSes suffer from proprietary vendor oddness. Both are susceptible to stability issues due to application level glitches.
To be fair, most windows admins don't want to touch zenworks either, so I think the problem with zenworks runs a bit deeper than a simple windows vs linux rivalry.
( RHCE/MCITP EA admin here )
This just drives home what I've always said...
People like to carp on the reliability of MS server software, but in fact it's usually vendor software which breaks.
Honestly, I'd say both linux and Windows are equally stable.
Excellent, can we please move on now?
I get it. The industry is running out of things to "innovate", we're hitting a TV platue. That's a good thing, in my opinion. Let's focus on improved LCD production techniques, or dare I say it? OLED sets.
Stop pushing 3D crap on everyone though. You've already lost me as a theater goer after the tron debacle ( movie was great, but forced to see it in 3D even though most of it wasn't ), I'm on the fence about a new TV ( whether to get one, or cancel cable ). Force 3d down my throat, I'm out.
I'm not alone in this.
Where Novell lost out? You all are missing it
Novell started losing the game when MS began making network administration tools more intuitive than novell's offerings. I don't think anyone here would disagree that administrating MS networks is more complex than novell networks; quite the opposite. Novell's management tools never really got better, they'd just change direction midstep, leaving half done toolsets out there. Half done tool sets that were the only tools to use, in many cases.
For instance, I applaud their move to web services for network administration ( although iManager is...touchy. I'm still not quite sure how you screw up a web interface so badly, but then I shouldn't be surprised coming from Novell ), but then you try to manage Groupwise...and find the only tool available for that is in Console one. Which itself is finicky about java and the windows version you are running.
eDirectory is...ok. The problems I always had with it were the sharp edges; if you weren't careful, you could cause seriously confusion problems my simply moving a user to a different container.
And then we have...zenworks. Wow, what a steaming pile of crap. Sure, it does neat things..but nothing Active Directory + WPKG can't accomplish better ( and maybe a vnc for remote desktop capabililties ). Having been forced to use this abomination of an "enterprise desktop management application", I have to honestly wonder about the competency of any tech that recommends it.
Those were the three things that killed Novell, IMHO. Had they tightened up their client and made it less resource intensive, cleaned up the management tools and added a little polish, I'm sure they'd still be a force to deal with for MS. Oh, and had they never never touched zenworks.
I have an idea
How about...and this is the crazy part, YOU STOP GIVING ORACLE MONEY. If your vendor is erratic, you find a different vendor. Sure, it can be painful, so maybe you should remember this when making future decisions.
The government has no business getting involved here; the companies have choices, even if they don't like them.
Python is spiffy for it's targetted audience, but python on windows can be...painful. And you want to do GUI work?
I'll use mono before I play that game again.
Not buggy for me
I don't have the latest or greatest system. I got NV off of steam. I have yet to experience a crash, although I did manage to glitch a story line point by shooting someone before they could shoot me ( it was only a matter of time ).
I'm not sure 75% is fair given how much fun the game is. I've already wasted a ton of time on the game this week, and I've barely made it past the first town. I've been all over the map exploring though, so take that for what it's worth.
More than a little scary
Trust me, Marky W, us americans ( USA folks, more specifically ) find the whole creationist/ID argument more than a little scary. It's downright terrifying to many of us that, in this day and age, we find ourselves having these mid-evil arguments.
Any day I expect the "flat earth" argument to make a comeback.
Instead of smaller plates...
...how about providing employees with paid work out times?
Hear me out, I know this sounds far more expensive than simply shrinking the plates. So to make up the costs, why not get rid of the food idea entirely? I get that it's a "thing" with google, but were I an employee I'd be much happier being able to squeeze a workout in my day where I otherwise couldn't ( single father ). You could save on the nightmare that is food service ( believe me it is ), even though it'd likely be a wash with a gym's liability.
A word about stability
Stability without versatility means little. SLES may be stable ( it's linux after all. Not even Novell/Suse seem to be able to screw that up. Not that I'm sure they didn't try ), but if I have to have the novell client to access it, what's the point?
Sure, I could use samba...so why don't we use that to begin with? What's the point of adding that extra layer? What feature does it provide? Beyond vendor lock in, of course, which is really only a feature of novell's and not the business.
The best file servers are linux + samba. I prefer RHEL/Centos ( for a variety of reasons. SLES can't stand up to it, frankly ), but any linux distro would work.
Scripting capabililties...you're kidding right? With windows, you can use VBScript, JScript, even DOS batch scripting ( which is full featured ). Ultimately however, as long as the scripting language can do what you need it to do ( which all of windows scripts can ), everything else is just syntax.
So why does eDirectory beat the pants off of AD for user/workstation management? Or hell, let's just say "Authentication". I know edirectory has some neat partitioning features that AD doesn't have yet, but that's really only useful in some edge cases. And regardless, there are work arounds even then. So let's here your reasons. Objective please, otherwise we might as well end this argument here.
For managing WINDOWS users on WINDOWS workstations? Ya, I happen to think MS might have an "IN" here. Nothing competes with AD in this space, no matter how much the big red N might.
I'm probably older than you are. However, unlike the dinos that were once my peers, I keep my skill set current. I remain objective and consequently i am capable of making objective decisions.
Novell WAS good 15 years ago. They were the only name in the game. That changed with AD around 2000, and it's only gotten worse for Novell since then. While I generally support the whole "if it ain't broke" mentality, you do have to take in to account finding capable admins. While I could hire otherwise capable admins and train them in Novell crap, why would i waste that time? It's easier and cheaper to find MS admins that are capable of the necessary tasks.
I have admin'd both groupwise and exchange. On their own, each is their own nightmare of crap. However, everything is built for Exchange. Ever have the pleasure of administrating a BES/Groupwise "solution"? No sane number cruncher would make that decision, yet we find it all the time because old admins in management positions are constantly making nostalgic decisions instead of objective ones.
No. Novell and their "software stack" are more a liability than a viable solution.
And that makes it better?
Honestly? Netware/Novell, it amounts to the same bloated crap. Yes, we are using SLES, but god help us, that's based on Suse. SUSE.
And it's not like the difference between netware/novell matters to either of the points in my initial post; end users hate the product, administrators ( those that actually keep relevant ) hate the product. Doesn't matter if the back end is solid gold ( which it ain't. Again, suse. Might as well have used Lindows ), if the interface with your two most important demographics sucks then you are still going to die horribly.
And whoopee, it runs like crap on TWO operating systems. That makes it twice as fail.
Shorter title: Netware sucks
I hate to be the one calling a stinker a stinker, but that's the fact. Netware/Groupwise/Zenworks is a horrible "software stack". End users hate it because the software makes even the snappiest workstation feel 5 years old, and admins hate it because it's convoluted to manage and is archaic compared to other...free...solutions out there today.
In fact, it seems the only folks that like it are the managers. You know, the folks that cut their teeth on these products 15 years ago...when they were actually decent in comparison. Unfortunately, the industry has passed these folks, and these products by. But because they are now the decision makers, we get stuck with the crap.
Unless Novell makes some radical changes to their product line ( and frankly, I'm not sure how they could change enough to compete with Active directory ), they're looking at a long, slow ride in to death. Unfortunately, with the way these things work, they'll drag a lot of us with them.
Sadly, that's actually accurate in the case of McAfee and other popular AV packages.
Webmail, google apps
I moved my domain over to google apps a year+ ago and haven't looked back. With thunderbird, even with imap, many settings wouldn't transfer across to my multiple workstations. I'd wind up with minor differences between them all, and a contact list that may or may not be synced.
Like it or not, a web interface solves all of these issues and more. Not to mention having your domain on google apps gives you access to some neat stuff...and pushes administration off to google instead of locally like I was doing.
And I'm a big believer in the fewer the better. The fewer applications I have installed, the happier I am.
He was on a plane to nowhere?
<puts on shades>
No no, not BoFH day
That's the following Monday, and only applies to those who didn't get at least a "Happy Sys Admin day" from work.
Personally, I'm planning to install an english to pirate translator on the proxy/email servers.
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