186 posts • joined 2 Feb 2009
Wish I'd seen this before I bought a 16GB Moto G a couple of weeks ago!
Cherchez les geeks
Presumably because a high proportion of the readership of El Reg are geeks, many of them old enough to have grown up on the original Star Wars movies at the cinema. (Raises hand.) And just waiting to, ahem, introduce their kids to the new series when they come out.
I don't order takeaways and haven't heard of the site, so I was curious. But it all feels really expensive. £9 for a very ordinary sounding pizza, delivered in not less than 45 minutes? In that time I can walk to the local convenience shop, buy a much better quality pizza for half the price and cook it. And I'll have considerably greater info on nutrition & food chains.
Re: And this is better than Chromecast how?
Unless I've missed something, this is a standalone device. Chromecast only works with a phone or tablet. That's fine if you're in a household of adults with their own smartphones, not so good in a family situation. I wouldn't want to let my kids loose on my phone, but would happily do so with a standard remote.
Ignorance is bliss?
I'm not sure whether to be proud or ashamed, but I don't recognise a single one of the people in that photo. Which probably means I don't watch enough award ceremonies.
Re: Just another power hungry HP
I have an HP Touchpad too, happily running Android 4.0 via CyanogenMod 9 (to whom I'm very grateful). It only charges at all well with the charger which came with it, rated at 2A. I've never had it successfully charge much at all on any of the other chargers in our house, whether no-name or from a specific manufacturer. Even a Nexus 7 (2012) charger didn't do it much good.
Re: Worst infographic EVER
@Platelet: Fair point, but then this is more of an advert for an infographic than an actual infographic. I quite like the format, but really I'd have liked a key too, or at least a note after the 1st, 2nd etc to say the actor's surname.
Re: Conflicted here
@Gordon 10: IANAL, but my understanding is that while Microsoft and Noka have agreed the sale of the Nokia phone division to MS, it doesn't actually happen until the early months of 2014. So while you might say that Nokia are well on their way to assmilation by the borg, it's not final and official yet. Cheer away!
"It is entirely probable that this dependence may have been used to leverage access to the information Snowden was carrying."
I think this statement needs at least a bit of evidence. It's a strong allegation. So far the beneficiaries of Snowden's work have been in strengthening the rights of citizens in democracies to know how their governments are spying on them. It's possible that his work will be used by other governments, but by no means certain.
"Just your bestie"
Is this person twelve years old? Are Google execs / PRs all required to match the demographic of their users on particular products then?
Or am I just too old to use YouTube? (I'll get me zimmer frame.)
Re: Happy Clappy Crappy
They don't have to be happy with it, just to chant it. Perhaps they simply want to keep their jobs? People have had to do many worse things in the name of corporate conformity.
A better question might be why people can be so vacuous as to require others to chant a company song.
Regarding the low-end Android comparison: I have a ZTE Blade (aka Orange San Francisco) - slightly lower specs than this one except that the Blade has a better screen. The ZTE Open ought to have better specs since it's around three years newer. This week I flashed Android 4.2 Jellybean on my Blade, and it works really very well - the odd crash but the hardware is more than competent to run the OS. I know that the Blade was an especially good model for cheap Android, but since both phones are made by ZTE, it seems like a fair comparison.
It's early days for Firefox OS, but this isn't an impressive start.
By the way, regarding web apps on a phone - that was the way WebOS worked (albeit packaged). On my HP Touchpad (now happily flashed with Android too) it was a really painful experience. WebOS had its good points, but the apps were dreadful.
Re: Fingerprint scanner?
Same here with my Lenovo laptop. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner works, sometimes it doesn't. I could never rely on it (and don't).
Re: Netscape won the browser war
Ironically, one of the best proofs of that is Evernote. Their Windows and their Android clients are both updated frequently, for reasons good and bad. On Android the install whizzes through (after a single approval), mostly happening in the background. On Windows it's a constant cycle of approvals, dialogue boxes and progress bars. Not sure whether it takes longer, but it certainly feels that way. The irony is because you'd expect a cloud-centric service like Evernote to work as a web-based app; instead under Windows it feels just the same as it would have a decade earlier, only updating more often. I've now uninstalled Evernote from my PC and only use their web interface or the Android version.
In defence of Hershey
Along with the muck, they do make Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, which are really nice, and contain no cat vomit.
Is Nexus 7 affected too?
Has anyone heard of problems with the Nexus 7 (v1) on 4.3? I updated my not-very-tech-savvy parents' device to 4.3 when I was staying with them a few days ago. They've not reported any problems, but they might not attribute them to the Android update even if they encountered them. Whoops...
Those brand consultants earned their pay...
So they're rebranding from NSN to NSN? That must have taken their brand consultants some serious amounts of head-scratching to come up with.
What kind of berries?
Strawberries? Loganberries? Blueberries?
Or perhaps Steven Elop shipped over a crate of the odd-but-compelling Finnish cloudberry liqueur, and the bodies were drowned in that? (I'll get my tinfoil hat.)
Re: No they don't!
The Glasgow Underground was certainly popularly referred to as the Clockwork Orange when it was rebuilt in the late 70s - I remember it well as a child living there. I don't live in Glasgow any more, but I don't think I ever hear anyone using the term now when I visit. But as demonstrated by some of the stereotypes above, perceptions of Glasgow in the rest of the UK still seem to be based on what things were like a couple of decades ago.
The Three version of this has the wireless charging stand & case bundled for "free" (a relative term when you're paying them £30 a month). £500/24 = roughly £20 for the hire purchase, so on the Three package or the cheapest Vodafone one, you're effectively paying £10/month for the calls, which compares favourably to pay as you go. If you want or need a £500 handset, that is.
Re: Thought this might happen...
@xyz: "should one be wary of Rom/Alb/anians at bus stops with suspiciously large batteries next to them?"
Only if one is a racist. The technical point is a fair one, but the issue is surely about being wary of *anyone* at a bus stops with suspiciously large batteries next to them. Their country of origin is irrelevant.
@Goldmember: It might be justified, but it's still a lot of money.
Re: The problem...
This is a really interesting assertion (that Metro was designed for keyboard usage). I too would really like to see more details of the design principles, even just a blog post.
Re: Metro always looked useless to me as a desktop UI.
I got so fed up with the name "Magnus Pyke" being thrown at me when I was at school... Especially since Magnus Magnusson, another namesake and a far more interesting role model, lived just up the road.
(Sorry, that was completely off-topic. But some things you just have to get off your chest.)
Originality ain't what it used to be
Hmmm. Typing to get into applications, and swiping upwards to go home. What does that remind me of? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Pre_3
WebOS might have been crippled by poor implementation (ran like a drain on my Touchpad) and appalling management from HP, but it did have some really good bits of UI design. Perhaps this time they'll be better handled.
Re: And yet...
What? Marc Andreessen is a weeping angel?
(Point taken though. The blink tag was a truly awful creation, and led to some abominable web design for a while.)
That's why the G300 has done so well, at least in some circles - it does 80-90% of what most people need in a smartphone for £100, very much as the ZTE Blade (Orange San Francisco) did a couple of years ago. That's cheaper than your sweet spot, but fits well into my sweet spot!
"the USPTO has rendered a dispositive decision"
For a horrible moment I thought this was an ugly bit of lawyer-euphemism for "negative". Thankfully it's an ugly piece of lawyer jargon instead, being an adjective form of "disposition". Phew!
(Where's the icon for <wipes-pedantic-brow>?)
What's this anti-scientific nonsense doing on a technology website? For shame!
Perhaps the average readership of the Reg is not the target market for this device?
(Not that that should stop anyone being scornful of people with more money than sense, and the marketing drones who draw them in like ants to honey.)
Re: Romans 16:17-18
@Obviously! - Here on the Internet, we have this thing called a search engine, and there are innumerable online Bibles. Whatever you think of the Bible, the meaning of those verses, and the point the OP was trying to make with them, is pretty clear.
Re: To Dave126
@ribsome: I'm sure you know this, but the book of Genesis wasn't written originally in Latin... (Not that that stopped the Catholic church from treating the Vulgate as the only proper translation for centuries.) I don't have the Hebrew to comment on the original, but it's worth observing that the context is immediately after the story of the Flood, when Noah & his sons are being told to repopulate the earth. In the context of such a flood (for which there's little archaeological evidence), a few centuries of condom-free re-population might have been in order. But times change.
Re: Top Marks
What's different about only offering an iPhone app? Sounds just like the other lazy sheeple developers (cf. BBC etc) who think iOS is cool and developing for the most popular smartphone platform is too much like hard work.
That said - the restaurant sounds great and this is a good advertising ploy.
Back in the day (c1990) it was the one-word post we used to bring message threads back to the top of the list on the Cambridge University mainframe's bulletin board system. (Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.)
Re: Android didn't get to number one by people not standing it
@Waspy: Well I'm pretty keen on Android, but I wouldn't dream of paying even as much as £15-20 per month. That sounds like a lot of money to me. You can buy a perfectly good one for £100 on pay as you go (I bought an Orange San Francisco at this price two years ago; my wife recently bought a Huawei G300 at similar price; both are excellent), and for me about £10 top-up every six weeks or so gives plenty of data & texts. Spreading the handset cost over 2 years, that's about £11 spend per month. It's perfectly possible to do Android on the cheap and get very good results indeed.
Re: Good game
Agree about the joypad. Even more so when its brand-name is the SteelSeries FREE. That's certainly not free as in beer or as in speech - perhaps it's free as in easy? Or free as in not-free-at-all?
Similarly, some stations on the West Coast mainline (with Virgin Trains for the time being) have posters up with QR codes for mini-timetables relating to that particular station. I've seen it at Coventry, but I'm sure it happens elsewhere. Again, corporate but not advertising.
Better bargain still...
It's even better than they're saying if you pay up-front - the newspaper subscription is £312 for 18 months at £4/week, so the Nexus 7 is effectively free. Except you have to give the money to Murdoch and read the Times.
If it were the Guardian, or the Independent, it would be a huge bargain. But it's never the good guys who go for these things.
Skip the link to demagoguery please
I think this is a great article, but the link to Niall Ferguson's dreadful Reith Lectures (embarrassing in their partisanship given that he's a serious scholar) is wide of the mark. Surely this is a different case altogether? I disagree with Ferguson that the bankers were over-regulated, but the point is that they were being trusted with other people's money to manage, so need in some form to be watched and to be stopped from misusing that money. Users of a software product are in a completely different position - we're not placed in a position of trust in any respect. OK, it was only intended as a partial analogy, but given that it rests on such dodgy grounds to start with, it doesn't really work.
Re: Ashley & Michael
As a book of Christmas cartoons I had some years ago put it, "Jesus? Why would you want to give him a Puerto Rican name?"
Did they not have UK stores for a while but shut them down? Or am I confused with a different American chain? I remember at least three large bookshops (in Glasgow, Milton Keynes and Stockport) which I'm pretty sure were Barnes & Noble, and were really quite good. But now gone.
Chimp, prince, spot the difference
I like that the Telegraph article has a link to piece entitled "Anybody would think he’s human..." in the sidebar. (It's above a photo of a chimp on a bike.) Coincidence?
Can I be the first...
... to mention the Mayans?
Re: WTF is GiffGaff
"they expressly forbid tethering"
I don't use GiffGaff but this is only partly accurate. They do indeed expressly forbid tethering on their £10/month package, but they have other packages on which they do allow tethering (their data-only 'gigabags' starting at £5 for 500MB lasting one month).
Re: I'm impressed
I also think this is an excellent review, once of the best I've read for the new iPad. The point about not having a monopoly ecosystem is an important one - all through the IT world, systems are better if they have competition. And there's nothing wrong with liking Apple on a partly subjective basis. The subjectivity comes across as a lot more nuanced and well-grounded than Charles Arthur manages at the Guardian (a good journalist and a well-informed man, but manages to sound like a fanboy even when he's trying not to be).
Re: LibreOffice may be coming too
What, like OfficeSuite Pro, which was recently available for 25p in the big Android apps sale? (OK, normally it costs more.)
Re: Windows Phone 7 ?
"Until someone realizes mobiles need this level of simple upgrading then there is always going to be po'ed customers wondering why they can't at least try out the latest apps etc."
I don't quite get this post. Are you referring to OS updates or app updates? If it's the latter, then Android at least manages something quite similar to your Thunderbird & Firefox experience via Google Play - I regularly get notifications of app updates, and it's very easy to go in and install them; I presume iOS does something similar via iTunes.
What's more of a problem for Android is the OS update cycle, which is partly a result of there being so many Android handsets, each with specialised drivers etc; and partly as a result of manufacturers/operators insisting on installing their own junk on top of stock Android to differentiate themselves from the competition. Unless you go down the Flash ROM route (not hard but not for the average punter) it makes it difficult to keep up.
Apple is better in this respect, of course, but they have it easy with supporting just a few handsets at a time (and refusing to support some of them) - and even there you have to accept that if you want the upgrade, you take their broken Maps apps etc.
"He never married"
Does that still mean what it always used to mean in obituaries?
Re: My diagnosis....bad value for money
"To be honest, most people only use a tablet for web browsing, messaging and email once the novelty has worn off anyway, so why spend more to get less when pretty much any Android tab over £100 will do the job perfectly?"
I use an Android tablet, and I agree about the value for money issue. But I can't agree about just using it for web + email. It's extremely useful for document viewing at work via Dropbox, and for updating files on the go. And there are plenty of good apps if you want them.
Rubs hands with glee...
As an academic teaching the evolution & failures of information systems, this looks like potentially very rich case study material a few years on!
- Updated Zucker punched: Google gobbles Facebook-wooed Titan Aerospace
- Elon Musk's LEAKY THRUSTER gas stalls Space Station supply run
- Android engineer: We DIDN'T copy Apple OR follow Samsung's orders
- Microsoft: Windows version you probably haven't upgraded to yet is ALREADY OBSOLETE
- Oz bank in comedy Heartbleed blog FAIL