1529 posts • joined 5 Mar 2007
The difference between Pinochet and Assange is jurisdiction: Spain had no claim of jurisdiction over Pinochet. The judge in question was acting on an assumed right to try crimes in another country over which he had no legal title. Assange, meanwhile, is accused of committing a crime in Sweden, against a Swedish citizen. We may argue with the legal merit of that crime but Sweden's law stands (even if might be alien to our own sensibilities) and it has that jurisdictional right to lay charges against the man. The Spanish judge demanding Pinochet's extradition had no such right.
So they are simply not comparable.
They sent that great big rocket up, where the hell do you think they went if not the moon?
Re: sovereignty only important for your country
No, he's a douche because he's a self-publicising arrogant twit who would step over his own dead grandmother for a pot of tea if he thought it would get him an advantage and more publicity. He's skipped bail on very serious charges, refuses to defend himself, claims he's being persecuted by foreign governments and all the while pushing himself forward as the saviour of mankind, whilst those who did the actual work are languishing in jail or go completely unacknowledged.
He is an arsewipe of the highest order and he deserves not a single iota of respect from anyone. EVER.
Re: First Tokyo, next London?
Maplin still sell parts by mail order, though I suspect they're a little overpriced.
Re: I detect a familiar odor...
That's not saliva...
Oh, I'm sure that was entire intentional and you're only inflating their egos to bursting point by focussing on it. Hate to burst your bubble and all...
Oh god, the puns. They're ballooning.
Nah, he'll be racing against it in a Veyron. Possibly from the top of a cliff.
Re: A solution in search of a problem
Gingerbread is just the OS, I'd be surprised if it came with that sort of capability built in.
Like they say: there's an app for that. :)
Re: RE:".....so that the rock shot first..." No, no, that's not how they'll do it.
But at least the president isn't trying to get his rocks off.
I had no other way to work that joke in.
... I'll leave now...
Re: Guys, I think you're missing the point...
"it's just fiction" is all good and well but it does rather miss the point itself. Fiction is a very large part of our culture. An incredibly large part of it. As such fiction forms a large part of our worldview by influencing both our value structures and how we perceive the world.
A culture is the social mores, beliefs and opinions and behaviours of a group, who learned those social artefacts while they were children.
This is a show aimed at children. Remember that for a moment.
Consider: if you want to influence a culture, where's the best place to start? At the top, with its leaders? They're already inculcated with a particular worldview. They can be nudged but, by and large, they've settled on their opinions and are unlikely to be shifted, and any change in the underlying culture often threatens their powerbase.
In the middle with the general adult population? Again, they've already absorbed their culture. Again, they are unlikely to be shifted from it because it would require reanalysis of their core beliefs. One or two may have an "epiphany" and change their behaviour when presented with an alternative culture but even they are still innately linked to the prevailing culture in which they were raised. It's burrowed deep into their brain and forms the primary motivations for their behaviour.
The children? They are young and malleable. They are still absorbing the cultural mores of their parents. They are equally open to any concept presented to them.
There's a reason why political movements always focus on children. They know that children, above all others, are easy to impress upon with new ideas, new claims, motivations completely alien to the culture they were born in. The quickest way to create a sea-change in a culture is to capture the next generation and introduce the ideas of that change within them.
Which brings us back to fiction (which forms, as I asserted, the majority of our culture). A child watching this will soak up the idea unconsciously and it will become part of his belief structure in some way. One instance won't do much, but if there are more instances, more pieces of fiction (especially television which, for a variety of physiological reasons, is an extremely potent way to influence the way people think) containing similar ideas, a cultural imperative will be crafted within the child to view open source with suspicion.
So "it's just fiction" is a bit of a red herring. It's presented as fact.
Re: That reminds me of some dumb programme...
Who remembers Hackers?
"It has a bus!"
Re: No! I do not understand!
I was bashing hipsters before it was popular.
Re: Grand Challenge
Aye, and it's not like the rocks are going to suddenly get up and walk away.
Though it'd be fun if they did...
They keep telling the truth about us, they must be funded by google!
The vast conspiracy meme gets old...
Mount a couple on SpaceX's Dragon capsule and we can invade Mars properly.
Re: Dodgy argument...
Er... mongo-what? Good god did you just cross a line, mate. Can't win an argument so you resort to disgusting insults.
.... wait, an apple patent that covers an actual, physical implementation of a novel idea that isn't just "basic software concept X but on a mobile device" or "round corners"?
Re: Very strange behaviour indeed
Hasham, the difference is simple: HMV and co are selling music. Advertisers are selling a product and using music to form part of that product's image. HMV and co don't alter the artist's creative intent by associating third-party imagery with the music. They don't blend it and break it and merge it with their own ideas, they just sell it. Advertisers transform a creative work, they associate that music with concepts that may be completely opposite the artist's original intent and in doing so they alter what the artist is trying to say. They are not selling the music. You're apparently labouring under the impression that selling music and using music to sell a product are the same thing when they are, in fact, completely different.
Re: What goes up generaly comes down...
Better not launch it over Australia then.
Re: As Graham Chapman would have said
I thought we were the popular people's front...
Re: Sounds like what Apple are trying to make
... how small are your hands?
Re: Laws create criminals
With all the money saved "we" could buy a few-hundred rockets from SpaceX and shoot them all into the sun. I was originally going to suggest a one-way trip to the sahara, but we'd only end up with a dire shortage of sand.
Re: Is this really an issue?
I'd assume it's because the win16 environment was pretty much one gigantic security hole by that point and that it wasn't particularly well documented, or understood, or even compatible with the updated architecture of Vista. It makes sense to drop it from the default install, just like a default 64 bit Debian install doesn't come with the ia32 compatibility libs.
Why should they include an outdated architecture by default?
Now if you're arguing that they should have written a set of compatibility libs for 16 bit applications then you may well have a point, but that's a different issue to dropping default support.
Well... in most usage it amounts to basically the same thing.
Doff! DOFF! Doth be that which thee doest, he doth, they do, and not an action be. Thee doff thy cap to thy lord and he doth greet thee.
Always remember, thee is the formal, thou is the familiar, and be well.
Re: And yet...
Steam isn't quite the same thing. It has cloudy features now but it's not in the cloud. Your data resides on your computer, not in some fluffy abstraction out on the edge of the internet.
Of course it has a fairly comprehensive DRM scheme, but that's a whole different kettle of fish.
Re: I will be the first to admit that....
Why the state?
Re: This is the reason why I bought my R-PI!
Yes, providing the option is a "step backwards". They should just force everyone to use the same OS regardless of what they want to acheive with the device.
Re: Seems like good science
No, it constitutes disagreement with the scientists, disagreement with the claims regarding the quality of the evidence and disagreement with the currently favoured hypothesis. Believe it or not, that is science.
The problems that would apply the Hubble also apply to the other earth-orbiting scopes. In addition their focal length rather rules it out; they simply can't focus on something that close. It'd be like asking you to read a screen right in front of your eyeball.
Combines the best of a tablet and laptop? Sounds familiar... oh wait, it could be because that's exactly the device I'm posting from!
Now if only ASUS would get off their butts and release the padfone here.
Re: Oh dear, missed the point again...
Putting McKinnon and Assange in the same category seems a little off to me. Assange is accused of rape and is attempting to avoid justice. McKinnon is accused of being embarrassing to an american politician and is attempting to find justice. One of these things is a serious crime. Can you tell which?
Re: What about the Crown Court judge?
The very existence of the CPS is the reason why this went as far as it did, but that isn't a flaw in the CPS. It's the entire reason the CPS was created. The police, who had common sense, weren't bringing high-profile prosecutions; the government wanted prosecutions, so the CPS was created to take the job of bringing prosecutions away from the police in order to make political hay.
Whilst it was created in 1985 and thus isn't the sole responsibility of Blair's government, until 2003 it had to wait to be asked by the local police force to bring a prosecution, and only if that force chose to ask. What changed in 2003 was the introduction of the 2003 criminal justice at which, amongst such innocuous details as removing double jeopardy protection, right to trial by jury and creating more new crimes than at any time in British history, gave the CPS the sole right to bring prosecutions, reversing its relationship with the police completely and leading to the current series of farcical trials that make big headlines but don't achieve any sort of justice.
Re: Captive Users
Zwei, you're wrong. The banks failed spectacularly, which is why they're being propped up with tax money right now, and storing up a whole world of pain for all of us in the process.
Re: Captive Users
ZweiBlumen, nothing, nothing, is too big to fail. You've said it yoruself, facebook has replaced Google as "the internet" for most people, which means Google is starting to lose mindshare, which means in turn it will gradually stop being "search" for a lot of people, which in turn means something will replace it. It's as inevitable as the human species one day disappearing.
Everything dies. That's life, and it's a rule that applies as much to giant technology behemoths as it does to dinosaurs.
Re: Clarke's law should have said:
I'd have thought an algae mat would be a better comparison.
«Je suis sous la manche! Non, la manche! Oui, c'est merde!»
vous est ne m'a pas vu, d'accord?
Re: Wait a minute. What's that?
What are the chances of that, eh?
Dunno about you, but I laugh every time I see them.
Re: UK gov should just grow a damned spine
It used to be, in this country, that nothing was illegal unless it was specifically legislated against, or found by a court to be a breach of the common law. Now, it seems, successive governments have implemented incredibly broad legislation that outlaws huge swathes of "innocent" activity, and then adds caveats to "allow" what was only rendered illegal by their actions in the first place. It's fundamentally unjust and it leads to corruption, as lobbyists angle for their own particular exemption from the law and politicians create special classes of Thing that are now exempt, and expect to be treated as heroes for suppressing the rights of the people and then granting them a little bit back.
Doesn't surprise me at all. The lovely wife is an aspie and has all sorts of issues that are compounded by the fact that, as a Swede living in the UK, she faces culture shocks nearly every day and still hasn't fully grasped basic idiom. She's seen several therapists over the years, only one of whom was in any way qualified to deal with aspergers cases and that only because he was an aspie himself. None of the others seemed to even understand what aspergers was, never mind how to properly assess her mental state or deal with the issues she raised. They treated her as simple depression in most cases. Mental heathcare in the UK is completely and utterly inadequate.
Late diagnosis didn't help matters either, nor did the fact that Swedish healthcare is apparently even further behind than the UK when it comes to mental health. Over there they said vad tusan and stuck her on antidepressants that made the situation worse for several years.
When I was a volunteer mediator I spent time talking to more than a few disputants who were also aspies and, in every case, the same basic refrain was repeated: there is no real help. They get bounced through the welfare system, have money and all sorts of pills thrown at them (or just the pills in a lot of cases), but they never get decent assistance and nobody tries to assess the issues they actually present. They're just expected to "grow up" and then treated like retarded children.
Took me years to even begin to understand how the wife sees the world. She still doesn't properly understand herself but we're trying to get her fully assessed and, hopefully, that will help matters along considerably.
Re: he could have been working
A terrible indictment of modern consume-credit-oriented society that requires us to work all hours of the day and nit just to stay above water whilst continually seeking the latest shiny t-
oooh new phone MUST HAVE BYE BYE COMMENTS
Re: The bit that freaked me out...
Tell me about it. I didn't realise technology had reached that sort of point. I recall a documentary a few years back about a system that was designed to try and give some limited vision to people who were completely blind by crudely stimulating the visual cortex with implanted electrodes fed from a camera, but that was enormously clunky and only showed a few tens of dots. What this guy is wearing seems almost Star Trek in comparison.
Now where's that anon who was pooh poohing the idea that the pi could or would be used for projects like this? I've got a special order of sour grapes just for him.
Re: Wow! OS X *really is* just another Linux.
Trolling only works if you actually have brains.
Re: Move along - nothing to see here
We also had the RG-31, the vehicle that would have saved so many of our armed forces lives in Iraq if only we'd used it instead of the bloody landrover, before the Americans had even heard of the concept of using V-shaped monocoque hulls for better mine protection - and then we sold them off and went back to the landrover because... well, nobody actually knows.
This doesn't prove anything related to the article, except the MoD and the military top brass are fuckwits who will probably sell off our mine-sweeping capabilities just when the government decides that we really need to do something in the gulf and the Iranians decide that yes, they will start mining the strait of hormuz from coast to coast.
You think you could clarify that a little?
Re: Dear religious groups
In other words you're discriminating against religious groups because they came to their conclusions via a different path to yours and added some flowery language to what is, in essence, the same basic statement and now you want to dictate what they can and cannot do because it doesn't fit in with your own beliefs.
This absolves them of nothing, I should add, but you really ought to consider what you're saying, because you are no different in the end.
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