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And Vista Premium is still Vista.
Why do you take the minimum and say "well, as long as it manages that, it's OK".
What if your motorway ready car could only do 45mph (the minimum possible for a motorway: any less than that and you're obstructing traffic)?
Or what if your four seater car could seat four piglets? It still seats *four*. They never said four *what*s.
re: Vista Home Basic is still Vista
And Vista Ultimate is still Vista.
But your "Vista Capable" PC won't run it.
Hell, one of the executive officers got stung by it! How much of a fucking pussy ARE you???
re: Dam it ppl
Aye, and sheep, lacking both the opposable thumbs AND the fingers necessary are unable to wield any of the items that are required for such an animal to be a danger to human life.
So if someone is willing to use it against a dumb animal just because it was easier for them then running about a bit, what about when this twunt with a tazer meets a little bit of a problem with a hoodie wearer? Or a muslim? Or a Hare Crishna? Lippy kid?
re: Re: Has anyone tried this?
Nah, they'll all be busy using the milliwave scanner to look at the fit young bird going through customs.
Hell, the security at US malls were found to be using the CCTV cams to watch the women in short skirts. I can't see that the acceptance tests would be any better.
And where better to be as a closet paedo than stuck hidden in a cubicle behind a lot of TV monitors and a steadycam, eh? Who watches the watchmen?
Should be us.
Any place that has CCTV should have a large screen with the live pic of what the operator is doing at all times.
See how the fuckers like it...
@Yirrel all missing the point
Martin says that God done it and that's ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED!
Martin, it's been proven in moths too. These insects could not interbreed.
All you say is "That's not the evolution I'm talking about!!!".
Well prove God done it.
God doesn't exist.
I stubbed my toe today.
@Yirrel all missing the point
You say you need the proof.
Well where is the proof for God. YOUR God, not the aztec one, or the hindu one or the CoS one. YOURS.
You don't want the proof because you want to hug your misconceptions to your breast.
Unfortunately, you'll never know you're wrong because when you die, there's no "you" left. Just like when you stop whisking an egg, there's no "soul of whisking" that moves on elsewhere.
You are a sad and pathetic individual.
re: It shouldn't go thru
"At the end of the day the companies are meant to compete."
How can they when one of them buys exclusive use of all matches?
At the end of the day, a monopoly breaks the free market that you love so much. A free market to operate needs a fully informed customer. Something that is forgotten in the spin and lies known as "marketing". And deemed necessary and wholly acceptable.
re: Rant, rant, rant....
Stu, get that pic of Corporation HQ out your pants and listen:
There was no unfairness: each and every other reseller could have done the same.
So kick that load of crap out at the start.
No, you're wrong.
US patents are considered "prior art" for UK patents, but that is as far as WTO goes.
They aren't even legal in the US if expressed as mathematical formulae.
And patents do not stop (in the US) ***personal*** use of a patent. So you can download the patented code from some other area that doesn't recognise that patent (much as the holywood industry ignored Edison's patents) and use it yourself. You can't export it to someone in a business relationship, however.
re: Tazers aren't the problem, the training is
"but which would you rather have, a cop deciding that you need to be stopped right now and taking a baton to your head, or a quick, (hopefully) non-lethal battery recharge?"
How about "Neither".
Yeah. maybe we ought to give the officers acid sprays to blind you, 'cos which would you prefer: Blind or Dead, huh?
For each word in the sentence that USES that bastardized word.
"Another chipped in with: "Free counselling and compensation for all involved! While we're at it, let's launch an expensive public enquirey. Our world has become a sick joke."
Well when a copper is harmed, there's a HUUUUGE manhunt for one person encountering the risk of their job. Why waste money finding the perp?
Ah, because we're supposed to *care*.
re: Look at it this way
Two trained officers couldn't work out how to get a sheep to move so shot it with an electric prod.
HOW FUCKING DUMB ARE THEY????
Look, if the sheep runs **away**, then if there are two of you, you place yourselves that the "most away " from each of you is the direction you want the sheep to do.
A fricking SHEEPDOG worked that one out.
re: @Jonas Finnemann Jensen
And microsoft should have chosen a better name than "Windows".
They still got to sue Lindows for using a name ***LIKE*** Windows.
OSI isn't the copyleft. FSF are.
Do your homework before commenting as authoritative.
re: @Rick Leeming
£49 plus vat is what I got from Watford Electronics.
You could hold out for full retail price if they refuse to show what they are paying MS for a copy and what their markup on it is (and how much support costs for windows, Dell support it, not MS).
re: Give Dell a break
So can I return a Dell because it hasn't got a Windows install CD? Can I return it because of all the crapware it has on it?
"This involved a couple of very young kids pretending to be lost and distressed in the middle of a large shopping mall. The cameras recorded hundreds of people ignoring the children, and some people actually taking evasive action, before one woman had the courage to intervene to offer help."
And why did that take courage? Because the Think Of The Children!!! brigade would have the mum so scared that her first reaction on finding her children being led by someone else (especially male) would be "YOU STOLE MY CHIDLREN!!!!!".
1) MS-LPL isn't OSI approved. It's on there, though.
2) GPL3 is OSI approved but the MS website bans any software under that license.
That's why we say this.
For the 70% of people programming who do so on Windows, they will be unable to tell the difference (unless they port the code to a non-windows platform and MS spot it). However, this isn't open source (note: although this moniker doesn't have capitals as per trademark attempt by the OSI, this doesn't make a difference. Just as sony electronics won't manage to get away with that name if Sony Electronics notices). And so the meaning of open source is diluted, which is why sony's products would not be allowed in the marketplace where Sony has a brand: Sony's brand would be diluted.
And a Sony TV
Doesn't have to be made by that Sony (Japan) corporation. It could be Sony, the latvian start up that just happens to make TVs.
I'm sure that Sony Electronics wouldn't mind AT ALL...
Now open source doesn't mean you can read it. Visible source is that: you can read it. But you can't "open source" like you "open doors", so what could "open" mean?
Well, it means you can USE the source code for your own reasons. It is defined by OSI. Not by fiat but because the term "open source" meant nothing until OSI coined the term.
Remember, MS is the company that sued Lindows for making off their name (and had to go all around the world to find a court that would agree with them). What do you think MS are doing with this "Open Source" moniker? Making off the name of Linux and other Open Source (OSI defined) projects such as Apache, etc.
Also, can anyone tell me why, since MS like the BSD license so much and want others to use it, they don't use BSD license for their code released "Open Source"? I mean, GPL is viral for MS but the BSD is sweet. So use it.
@Yirall talking out your arse
So you're saying that we are similar to apes not because we have a common ancestor but because the omnipotent God was a lazy bugger?
">And if God can be an uncaused effect then so, in principle, could the universe itself <
Could, were it not for the evidence that it is running down - evidence that it once had a begining and will have an end."
Take a shit, your throat's full. WFT??? How does that do ANYTHING to counter the quote you responded to? To quote from B5: all answers are replies but not all replies are answers. This was a reply that was not an answer.
God doesn't exist. Proof? Because I lost a sock three months ago.
re: Car analogies?
Nope, you don't license. You buy it.
The "you've licensed this" is what the grabby little fuckers WANT people to believe.
But you pay for it as retail. It IS retail.
If it's licensed, where's by DVD version of my VHS movies? If it's licensed, where's the recovery of goods at production cost if my CD's are stolen or scratched?
See, it's only "licensed not bought" when they want it treated like a license. It's "Bought" when it suits them (e.g. "Buy now on DVD!" "Buy to own now!" or "No, you scratched it, you buy a new one").
re: Mercs again
There's no such thing as IP.
The rest of your message is right, but stop spreading the BS the monopolies and cartels are trying to get us to swallow.
THERE IS NO "IP".
There's trade secret.
THERE IS NO "IP".
YOUR degree of misunderstanding here is scary..
"Modifying someone's closed source, compiled software to get it to work on your machine is not legal... end of story."
And NOT modifying someone's code but making your own and reverse engineering IS legal.
And, except in Germany, not legal does not mean illegal.
Shit. And YOU'RE telling US "we don't understand"!!!! Fuck, learn to understand what you say first!
PS there's no such thing as IP. There's copyright, there's patent and there's trade secret available here.
PPS read up about reverse engineering. No need to take copyright. Patents don't apply here unless they are ridiculously vague. And trade secrets are lost if they get out.
That isn't legal though.
If your car detected who was driving and how many people were in the car and refused to start if you weren't the one driving or you had four people including yourself in there, would you think the car broken? What if you find out the car manufacturer did that deliberately? Class action.
Yirrals a different species
"Genetic material is effectively information on the variable features of the form of life encoded in a highly efficient manner. "
Nope. If it were, why is there so much junk DNA?
If we aren't evolved from apes why do we have one less DNA strand and the one we have different is the same as two from chimps fused together AND has telomeres (which occur only at the ends of DNA stretches) in the middle.
a) Weird design
b) two DNA strands merged
re: What's good for the goose....
So when the memorial of the pope after his death is pissed on and a U tube vid shown, that can be removed.
Real people died in the holocaust. And that happened whether you believed in God, Satan, Nothing or the FSM. They died.
And that was why the memorial vid was taken down. Not for sacrilege but for the contempt shown for the real people who died and the real people who survived in a small way from the horror.
Same as if the War Memorial were to be pissed on and video'd: the people who died for our country had been pissed on. Not christianity.
Yes. Not legal.
Other reasons why the apple mac isn't "a single unit".
Can you only buy and use Apple Mice with your mac?
Can you buy and use only Apple branded graphics?
And copyright (the ONLY thing that gives an EULA force) has nothing to say on installing software you bought.
Now, ***support*** of this non-Apple branded hardware is not Apple's business. Just like if you take your Ferarri down to the local whiz garage mechanic and get the timings tuned for you. Ferrari do not say you can't do that with ANY mechanic. They CAN say that the three year warranty doesn't apply to an engine tuned by a non-certified engineer.
Yes, you are blinded by Job's shining butthole.
re:Sorry, is this The Sun letters page?
Well, if it is, why not just buy the branded Mac and ignore the non-branded machine?
If someone doesn't think it is worth it, then they (rather than NOT be an Apple Mac customer) may buy
a) Apple software
b) non-Apple hardware
You aren't FORBIDDEN to buy branded hardware just because there's non-branded PC's able to run OS X, you know. It's still available.
So what's your beef?
So? You don't see Linux on telly advertised as even being AVAILABLE.
They sell their OS in retail.
They don't forbid non-apple branded hardware with their OS or with their own branded hardware.
That they don't advertise "you can use the Phillips TouCam on your Mac OS X" doesn't mean they have banned you from it.
"Mark - "why are they selling OS X separately" - So that I can upgrade my Mac, of course."
Which contradicts AC's message:
"There's a fundamental difference between Microsoft and Apple that you've missed. Apple are providing, as their "product" a full suite - whereas Microsoft are only offering the OS."
Hence the response.
Don't le the sun shining from Jobs' arse blind you. Apple are in the wrong here.
re: @Re: These analogies
"There is no legal requirement for Apple to licence non-Apple hardware, and their current stance does not distort the marketplace."
And there's no legal requirement for someone to USE their software on Non-Apple hardware. Copyright has nothing to say on USE, only on those rights solely the remit of the author.
Re: Re: "Its a monopoly"
Uh, why are they selling OS X separately then?
Also, as an entire "thing", then merchantability laws mean that many sections of the EULA are illegal and that there is a warranty on getting the software TO WORK AS ADVERTISED (i.e. bug fixes must be made available or a refund given at any time a bug is found and not fixed).
Though that may be why Apple sell OS X separately...
There are over 2000 terrorists
there are over 2000 terrorists according to the Home Office in the UK.
Are the UK soft on terrorism?
Or is it they don't have the manpower to persue?
Hell, there are war criminals we know and name in the US and the US refuse to let them go to trial. Why is russia given the bog boo? Because they own all our gas?
Sky and government
"BT's & BG's networks were constructed with taxpayers money, while Sky's was funded by private investment."
Uh, without government regulation, Sky would owe me rent for making money off their access to my land.
Tax breaks and a lack of payment for disruption to services (like road, say) also constitute a HUGE investment from the taxpayers.
Sky's abuse is YOUR FAULT.
"And to be fair, SKY's service has become worse and worse recently. As a poster above stated, before you could watch all of the PL games on SKY sports, then a few (top) games were made into pay-to-view, then more and more and more."
And you know how that came about? Lennox Lewis and some other famous bugger were to be shown on Sky Sports. Up until then, all sports shown on Sky Sports were free if you'd paid for the channel.
This one, was considered a "premium" content and Sky required you to pay for watching this boxing match.
"This is only ever going to be a very rare event. It is so that those who don't want to subscribe to the channel can still watch the most pivotal sports ventures through Sky".
Well, that's what they said.
"Bollocks" I thought.
All people had to do was NOT PAY. They didn't even have to forgo watching the fight: go down the pub/club and watch it there. The pub/club had to pay anyway and the total value to Sky would be increased by naff all.
But no, you mouth breathing idiots HAD to have it on their TV. "they said only occasionally, so that's OK, aint it?".
Well, now you know.
They tested whether you'd give them a hand shandy for a buck. Now you've accepted that, they asked for a BJ and when you still said yes, you're getting a ramrod up your arse.
And NOW you're complaining???
Less clueless than you, Yirrel
Information doesn't have anything to do with meaning. Intelligence has nothing to do with it: If a tree falls in the forest and nobody sees it, did it fall? YES. Even though there was no intelligence watching.
Read up about Shannon theory. Or information theory full stop.
Of course this will show you where you're wrong, so I don't suppose you'll do that.
My intelligence is vastly higher than yours, but I still cannot make a coin turn heads by the power of my mind.
Bur flu could NOT be passed to humans. Until it evolved to have the key that opens the human cell system.
What a load of bollocks you said just there.
If Orange didn't let you call anyone (even landline customers), THAT would be the equivalent here.
Sky are banning effectively anyone from watching live football. Orange can't ban you from calling O3 customers. Or your mum on landline.
re: Much as I hate Sky and Here, here
Well, Sky shouldn't have bought exclusivity.
It's already illegal to corner a market. And Sky were doing the same here.
AJ has the right idea, though. Ban exclusivity deals.
Don't buy it and get the pirate version.
Then the company that demands DRM goes out of business. Or decides not to bother with DRM. Or closes shop.
The first is a good thing: the free market at work (copyright, which is a breech of the free market is not allowed to work to stop the free market operating).
The second is even better: people will be employed to make entertainment software and you can buy it again.
The last is "fuck you" from the company. However, since they'd said "fuck you" with DRM and you returned the "favour" by pirating their software (unfortunately, no raping, looting or making the scurvy knaves walk the plank :-( ), each have managed to convey their disgust at the other and all is even.
Union busting was acceptable
Now India have turned that pony around with CEO busting.
Not happy with the death, but the minister WAS right. This IS a warning to CEO's et al.
And ministers say that about the terrorist bombings: they are a threat to ordinary citizens. 'cept for some reason that's not "frankly flabbergasting" when they use it there.
Hypocritical wankers. CEOs should get 2x average pay and shares to double that. Each and every worker works to make the business a success but the CEO is the one that gets most of the bonus. If he's so indispensable, why not do without any workers and see how productivity shoots up.
And how much is your data worth on your computer?
Were ALL computers taken?
Will the police not look at his personal stuff, but just look for copies of the files from the camera on his computer?
When McKinnon was arrested, why was it $5000 per computer which cost $500 if "data on a computer" is worthless?
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