Nope, you SAY I work for one Paul
Who do YOU work for (I assume you ARE at work...)
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"By your words shall ye be known"?
Not really lots of time, just that there's no need to spend a lot of time debunking some of the complete shite spouted on here. cf "machine gun" comments: it doesn't waste a lot of time to shoot 20 bullets from a machine gun compared to a bolt-action single shot rifle.
I ought to clear up on that, since it can be misread: you agreed with me when it was right from your POV. If you hadn't and just disagreed because you have done in the past, that would be *deliberate* assholery.
In the same way, I would correct someone telling you off for being wrong when you weren't because to fail to do so just because we disagree on something would be being an asshole too.
But it doesn't mean I will agree when I think you're wrong, nor that I don't think where we have had disagreement you haven't been an arse. And in the same vein, I wouldn't expect you to change your opinion of me either.
Well, I may think you're an arsehole, but that doesn't mean someone should give you a telling off when you don't deserve it.
If I don't accept defending you when you're right, how can I accept attacking you when you're wrong? I can do either or neither. Doing one and not the other is being an arsehole.
The small inventor is already castrated and shafted like a 10-cent hooker by the patent system you praise for their survival.
Invented something? Well, Big Corp has 10 patents yours rely on. And another 20 that can be construed as prior art. If you try to persue it in court, you'll go bankrupt because WE are making stuff and have lots of expensive lawyers on retainer, whereas YOU have to pay them piecemeal and have nothing to sell in the meantime.
Or you can license it to us for some money.
Hey, at least you got SOMETHING, eh?
(Not to mention the patent trolls and over-broad patents.)
>>Maybe because there's a limit to how productivity growth can manage to
>>maintain whilst the basic materials are limited.
> We've had this before, productivity is not necessarily bound to resource use. Just because one car burns more fuel than another doesn't mean it's achieving anything more.
And it has never been shown why there is never a limit. Heck in your car's case, when it runs out of petrol, you no longer have a car. You have some high-tensile steel and plastic. Ergo, using less fuel, your car remains what you bought it for (a car) much longer.
Heck, since this legislation would require less resource use, it should allow more headroom before resources are exhausted, allowing EVEN MORE "growth" (by the definition that seems to be Tim's metier).
But the thing is they DID.
You just think that since they're not doing worse or same that we should be thankful they're only SLIGHTLY crap, less crap than they were before.
Sorry, if someone is kicking me in the nuts and then starts punching me in the stomach, I don't think I should thank them for merely punching me in the stomach.
The only difference between them (apart from VERY niche products like HA or HPC) is the support you get.
One OS.
Support for home users same as Workstation, but "best endeavour" rather than "business day".
Support for corporate use as a Workstation. Less limited. Includes replication and a service metric for how quickly it get answered. Options for both limited and unlimited queries.
Support for use as a Server. Includes any server issues (e.g. running Apache, IIS, etc). Unlimited queries, plans for business day service or 2-hour 24/7 service etc.
Support for "Ultimate", unlimited. 24/7, 2-hour service.
the only difference between workstation and home is that you only get answers for each machine purchased. Businesses have an IT who doesn't own but DOES ask for support for all the problems with the OS.
Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 4th February 2009 00:23 GMT
"How do you know that your descendants will live like cavemen?"
They will if our politicians listen to eco loonies like you.
And that is nothing like a well thought out argument. Well done.
WHAT???? YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE?!!?!?!?!
How do you know that your descendants will live like cavemen?
Just recently the US became the #1 produced of wind power. 25GW power, enough for 5million homes.
Which is 5kW/home.
Which is odd because in Scotland (hardly a caveman in sight), 7.2MW of wind power is enough for 9000 homes. 800W/home.
So your children could live like Scotsmen and reduce the need for 80% of the power station output if you are American.
You really HAD to go all Rita Hayworth on this, didn't you.
Either support for new hardware (USB and AGP for Win95, anyone?) or new applications (DirectX 10 is Vista only?), or obscure format change in documentation (.doc, .docx and MSOOXML, anyone?) in which case you will be forced to update to the latest and greatest or jump through hoops in punishment for leaving the fold.
"Linux cannot become a dominant desktop until such time as it develops a way of allowing windows based applications to be installed and run seamlessly."
Why?
There are already installers out there that will work IF the writer of the application USES THEM.
If they don't surely that's a fault of the developer, not Linux.
Uh, wintards are bickering too.
YOU'RE here bickering.
Strange that those bickers aren't killing Windows, isn't it.
Linux for you is dead not because of a lack in Linux or the antics of those proposing it, but in yourself. You don't WANT to use it.
That's fine.
Just don't fuck about with excuses that it's not your fault, it's someone else's. You ARE allowed not to use Linux "just because". Don't lie about the reasons though.
The last bit is correct. Linux was never written to replace or compete with Windows. It was written by Linus who wanted a UNIX that didn't cost a shitload and worked on his 386.
It's an OS. Not a frigging religion or lifestyle choice. But even those who say "Huh, use the program that works" think it is necessarily Windows (none have said "linux", many said "windows" most didn't say, but some you could check on the posting history for always promote windows...).
Hmm. Well, when Lexmark say that their chip that stops you getting aftermarket refills is a copyright restriction, or a garage door opener company says their remote is a copyrighted device, why is THIS not likewise copyright controlling device and hence, a Digital Rights Management issue?
Seriously, pirate the bloody thing. Cheaper AND better. What more does a RATIONAL Free Market Consumer need?
When the link starts off with:
"During the 20th century, the earth warmed 0.6 degree Celsius (1 degree Fahrenheit), but that warming has been wiped out in a single year with a drop of 0.63 degree C."
Since the daily variability is about 2C, that "wipe out" could be itself wiped out tomorrow.
Another case of "Climate? That's just weather, innit?".
That liberty site has the following people in it:
David Boaz is executive vice president of the Cato Institute and the author of "Libertarianism: A Primer.
Alan Ebenstein is author of "Friedrich Hayek: A Biography" and an adjunct scholar of the Cato Institute.
Mmmm. Cato Institute...
None of the rest seem to have any experience in what climate is either. Not even meteorology.
And a remit that says:
"A blog for people with a critically rational individualist perspective. We are developing the social individualist meta-context for the future."
So long as that critical rationality makes any government intervention in anything wrong, eh? So they would have anyone who says that concerted effort when it involves government is, necessarily wrong. They have a vested interest in denying AGW.
1. I believe that it's probably beneficial.
For whom? Certainly not those in areas where the climate is already marginal. "I'm all right, Jack" is your screed?
2. I've read many articles that plausibly (to myself at least) debunk the claim that the earth is warming to a statistically meaningful extent
And these are? You demand proof but supply rumour yourself.
To me, the more plausible explanation is that AGW is counterbalancing a cooling trend,
And it doesn't appear to, does it, else the temperatures would not have gone up. You can check the records yourself.
3. You are conveniently ignoring that the burden of proof that I required of you consisted of four parts,
Nope, you didn't prove that was needed. Prove your accusation that all four are needed.
To these points, I counter
1. significant impact upon global temperature caused by human activities that release CO2,
That is what is in the IPCC reports. If you don't trust them, do this:
a) Get the total annual oil production worldwide.
b) Ditto gas and coal
c) Add them all up
(note: all these are raw data and don't have to be retrieved from the IPCC report).
d) How many tons of Carbon is that?
e) Triple it (CO2 is three atoms)
f) Divide by the surface area of the earth (geography, no climate science needed)
g) This gives you the pressure of the CO2 we produce
h) Compare with the pressure of 280ppm CO2 we had for 10,000 years.
i) come back with your report
You can now see for yourself what human effect there is on the CO2 concentrations without recourse to anything beyond what a 16-year-old will have been taught and can find out independently.
This IS available in the IPCC report, so you're just seeing if they're wrong.
2. that this impact is harmful, (I believe that it is probably a beneficial counter to catastrophic cooling.)
Prove that. You make this statement but have no proof. You demand that when a statement is made, proof is needed. Do so.
3. that their interference will not cause greater harm than good
Define "harm" and "good". Moving the quadrillion infrastructure would be bad, would it not? And if you want to read an economists POV on this, read the Stern Report.
So this one has been answered too. You need to refute the proof.
4. and that people, if informed, are too stupid and evil to address the issue on a voluntary basis.(Cynicism about people is often a projection of one's own character upon others.)
You seem to believe that only those with a vested economic interest in promoting AGW will promote AGW. Are you projecting too?
The problem is that the first-world rich will have to pay NOW to save someone else in the third world LATER. When it comes to "MRR could damage YOUR child" the need for proof of that is irrelevant. Even if it's not known 100%, that's good enough when it concerns YOU or YOUR family NOW.
Yet if it concerns someone else's family, especially in the future, 100% proof isn't quite enough.
Self interest.
So you have me projecting self interest. Seems to exist widely, though. And you project underhanded fraudulent activity to proAGW and are therefore underhanded and fraudulent yourself.
The original data is there.
I *KNOW* that the data is available for free from the US Met Office (their remit requires it). But when someone like Theon says "Raw data" he's not talking about the figures like "Temperature", he's flim flamming you. He's talking about the data that has to be converted to temperature. Well, that's as useful as being given the height of the thermometer level from the bottom of the bulb. You can't tell.
Then again, all those screaming for the data
a) Couldn't understand it
b) Wouldn't work with it anyway
c) still want to do some fiddling with the data ("And NO data from an urban heat island) which is what they complain of others doing
The raw data is out there. You go looking for it. If you can find it, you KNOW that Theon was lying. If I tell you, either you'll be satisfied with someone else telling you the answer or, if you're a denialist, just change what you define as "the data", rather like creationists trying to "prove" evolution doesn't happen:
"Huh, how can birds be so suited for their environment? It MUST be God!"
Darwin explains
"Uh, OK, but how about the EYE? You can't make half an eye, can you? MUST be God!"
Point out the pit viper sensory organs, simple and complex eyes and show that there is a spectrum of "eye" that works quite fine.
"Uh, Mmmm. Ah! The Flagellum! It can't work without all its parts! It MUST BE GOD!"
Point out that two protein chains that are useful in their own right combine and can make a flagellum.
and so on.
Look at how markuzick says "it's up to the prosecution to prove its case". But COMPLETELY avoiding that once the prosecution HAS its case, the *defence* must show how that the case shown by the prosecution is wrong.
But the denialists STILL demand that they don't have to prove shit. Probably because they have no proof.
Hey, markuzick, prove I have not shown the case for AGW. You accuse me of not having done so. So YOUR accusation MUST be proven.
Prove it.
"Good grief, you do make assumptions don't you"
cf:
Paul M. Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 18:52 GMT
Mark wriggles and Mark wiggles - but still won't say who his employer is.
or
Professional PR pretending to be an IT guy?
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 11:06 GMT
(hang on YOU'RE an Anonymous Coward...)
or
Mark confesses who's paying him?
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 29th January 2009 13:49 GMT
(and so on. Oh, and you're an AC, too....)
And what do you think lobbyists are? They are how commercial interests get included in the political system. In fact, as can be seen with the recent Labour Lords case, they ensure a common and widespread corruption in the political process.
So anti-AGW screed is, if your reason for denying AGW is merely "politicians are corrupt and involved" is just as corrupt.
You are then left with, as with any jury duty, the evidence.
Who has most of it, who has to backtrack or counter their previous arguments and all that jazz that leads a jury of peers to find for one side or the other?
If you want to be skeptical, act like a juror in a murder case.
a) The murderer would say they didn't do it, even if they did. So they'll never bring up anything proving guilt.
b) The prosecution are there to say he did it, whether he did or not. That's why they're called "the prosecution". So they would never bring up anything that proves innocence.
And, even though BOTH SIDES are biased and corrupt, still we decide to arrest people for acts we never saw, purely on the balance of evidence.
So where is the evidence on both sides? Are the anti side consistent in their counters? No. So when the know what's wrong, why not SHOW it? Without that, they have no evidence.
"but as for "Windows is just for games. If you want to do some real work done, get Linux." that's sadly risible. "
No more than the screed yelled from the rooftops about how Linux is NEVER ready for the desktop (and GIMP is a stupid name, and you'd never use it 'cos Photoshop is the only program, and, and and...).
Uh
QUOTE
J Posted Monday 2nd February 2009 19:27 GMT
Happy
This page is fun, from a Southerner (I mean, South of the freakking Equator, really) perspective. Where we have no snow, and have no clue that them nice people in the UK actually think their land is big enough to be meaningfully divided in "South", "Mid", "North", whatever. Now I know.
Although the "snow debate" is the same here where I live (Richmond, VA USA, not UK)
ENDQUOTE
As Pierre already quoted in his response to J.
As far as I know, there IS no Redmond, VA, Brazil. Do you know of one?
Please try to keep up.
Win? Who's "losing"? Nobody.
You whinge about how hard done by you are. I feel good that I made you notice.
You put up stuff that pisses me off, and you feel good about it too.
But it took you how long to admit you just troll, same as the ones you complained about waay back up the thread?
"You could write the best article ever written but if only idiots comment "
Hey, this isn't *my* job. And if it were my job and I didn't like it, I'd not do it.
It's not like we're *forcing* Sarah Bee to do this, are we.
My point was and still is that there are many things on this site that a lot of people don't like and are sick fed up to the back teeth with. Yet still this site lets them happen and even, in many cases, join in.
And if we complain about it we're told "stuff it, we're keeping it". Well, people WILL keep doing the stuff that annoys you Sarah, because it doesn't annoy *them* doing it.
"I am so very weary of all the whinging and it's only lunchtime."
A) You write the articles. Don't like it? Don't write it.
B) Many people are weary of all the "*tard" and other canon that KEEPS getting posted. However, we have to like it or lump it. Please do the same.
Winter tyres, use a higher gear lower speed (torque limitations are overwhelmed by the lack of traction. using a low gear gives you torque you can't use, a higher gear you HAVE to be gentle with).
Farmers get around all day in knackered old ford cortinas and vauxhalls. No 4x4 (they're too expensive).
Just lifetime ban her from driving.
In this day and age, this is a serious inconvenience but liveable (unlike being, oh, I dunno, run over and killed).
Jail time beyond 21 months is punishment and that won't bring the dead back, so long enough in chokey to give her time to think about her stupidity. After that? Well, she's shown she's incapable of operating a car, so remove the license. She can't kill someone again with a car if she doesn't drive.
And, from her POV, she'll be able to text as much as she wants.
But a three year ban is worthless. Life. She doesn't deserve the right to drive.
However, that has one of two consequences that help with clawing back the rising tide of Law:
a) The law has to be done FULLY again. If the problem isn't that important, who can be bothered to put the time and effort in?
b) They can still say "these were changed" but we can do a simple diff to check it.
It CAN be that they slip new law in there, but they can do that now (just put a rider on like the fisheries bill that had ODF support to be denied), so no loss there.
"What's a bit mind boggling is to realise that anyone in the UK (it's different in the States) who rips a CD for their own MP3 player is breaking the criminal law...."
Well the problem is that the UK used civil tort for copyright. There you have to prove damages. And damages for YOU copying what YOU bought so YOU can use it for YOURSELF is, approximately fuck all. Trying to get that back would see you in contempt for wasting court time.
Therefore no law says that you are committing a crime in ripping because there is no crime there to be committed: damages remain nil.
Its just that you WILL get your arse handed into court for it because someone read THAT law, not the law it bolstered (which would have told you that you have no case).
Well, Ballsack started it with "Linux is a cancer". Bill Goats and his cronies all sneering "They infringe on over 200 of our patents! Which ones? Sorry, gotta go...". Or "Linux can't innovate. Oooh, like that, mineminemine!".
So that would be one reason for so much hate.
As you sow, so shall you reap, isn't it?
Run 'em under Wine, kid. Run 'em under Wine.
Or use an equivalent. Most times "there's no equivalent" means there's no version that you SPECIFICALLY require that is there.
Then again, you seem to forget that the OTS program you got didn't do entirely what you wanted and so you
a) changed processes so you didn't need to do it
b) changed processes so it fit what the program let you do
c) worked on some bits outside the program when you couldn't do either
and so not having exactly to the dot what you have now means you have nothing worse than what you already did and will have to do when the upgrade comes along and changes things. But because you don't WANT change, you will make any excuse to delay that change needed until it's forced on you. And that force will be "we have to upgrade". Which you'll justify as "well, it should work the same" and then find out when you've bought it all you were wrong. And by then you'll say "it takes too long to change program, and the changes ought to be small". If that turns out to be wrong, you'll trot out the sunk costs fallacy.
And then, after wasting a lot of time and effort (this is EXACTLY what happened with Office 97) you will then have the same thing next time. Never will you change because you want to delay it. And then take it up the arse because you didn't know or plan for changes when they turned up.
ACID is supposed to fail, though. It tests the really dark and nasty regions of the code. You can pass ACID and still be shite at the normal rendering.
Although if you have a browser that isn't ACID1 compliant when ACID3 is out and less than ~80% compliant with ACID2, you have not been paying attention.