I mean, where would you rather spend a wet Tuesday in February - The Fens or Sophia-Antipolis?
Personally, the Fens. Any day.
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I mean, where would you rather spend a wet Tuesday in February - The Fens or Sophia-Antipolis?
Personally, the Fens. Any day.
The vultures (no offence meant) are circling.
Seen it all before. This is the whole business with Acorn all over again - those with only the bottom line in their best interest go after the money and will swallow any bullcrap in order (or ordure) to get their big payoff. Then the new parent decides that they don't want to keep the product in its original place and shift it overseas, always assuming that they keep it going at all (OK, it's unlikely that ARMs will cease to exist any time soon, but there are precedents).
Great. Super. (Yes, CJ)
Note that Classic Shell does work on Windows Server 2012. It also works on 2016... NO NO NO I DIDN'T SAY THAT!
No, seriously, it does work on 2012 and it does allow you to make the TIFKAM screen go away if you want it, though r2 does allow the same options as 8.1 if you decide to stick to the OS only.
Hopefully Server 2016 does away with that jarring Windows 8 metro screen!
It does. Now you get a nice, shiny Windows 10 desktop (assuming that you install the GUI at all).
Beer o'clock? Damn, you're slow. It's beer o'clock and then some!
And it's your round! ;)
That's what they want you to believe...
An hour? I actually went to bed in the end! I eventually went back to the system in question many hours later to finally shut it down having installed 8 patches (and hidden the usual nag patches).
I have another machine to do but I suspect that it'll be quicker to download the standalone patches and install them than wait around for Windows Update!
Actually, here's an interesting Infoworld article about this problem from April. Seems that some sloppy housekeeping at Microsoft may be to blame here.
Three months ago, eh? Microsoft must really love its users!
I can believe that.
"...yet another strand of their effort to piss users off enough to get them to shift to W10..."
Not going to happen in my case. Whenever Windows 7 ceases to be viable, I am going over to Linux permanently.
Fair enough. As Windows XP users have been finding, a system that has gone out of support doesn't just stop working there and then. Of course they do need to be a bit more careful since software support gets increasingly hard to find as devs stop deliberately developing for it. No doubt Vista will end up the same way soon and W7 bites the biggie in 2020 but again this doesn't mean that they will stop working that same day.
To down side, of course, is where the system may have a security bug which will of a matter of course go unpatched. One thing that so many fail to consider, however, is how likely a security flaw is to be exploited - if a Word document could be exploited but the user uses LibreOffice, for example, does the exploit actually happen? It's all down to the likelihood of a bug being exploited, not just that the bug is there and if the likelihood of the exploit is too much, then it's time to shift.
As for me, I have my own set of W7 machines and all of them are likely to stay with W7, probably until they go EOL. What happens after that depends on what happens next with Microsoft.
"Checking for updates"
No, not just you. It has been generally reported in a number of places that update checks and downloads have been getting worse. I suspect that the infrastructure being used by Microsoft is being downgraded as yet another strand of their effort to piss users off enough to get them to shift to W10 despite the requirement to maintain a reasonable quality of service throughout the lifetime of the operating system.
But that's only a suspicion, mind.
Mind you, if that's really what they are doing then it could also be another reason why so much is being made here and elsewhere of users ditching Windows altogether and loading Linux instead. I did an update on my main openSUSE 13.1 system today as well - 22 patches including kernel mods, downloaded and installed with a complete system reboot (the system didn't insist on it but I like to restart it anyway if the kernel is being frobbed at all). Took about ten minutes from the first "su" command to getting the desktop back (yes, I do it the old fashioned way from CLI rather than use Apper).
Started my W7 update just before that...
"Checking for updates"
And the usual re-issue of nag patches, did we get them this month?
It means even if you have a single Windows guest VM that is only assigned one processor with one core, you still have to fully license the physical server it's running on. That's how the current Windows 2012 license works (but since it's processor based, it's more straightforward).
That sounds like even more of a disincentive to use Windows unless you are using it on the base system alone, or at least an attempt to force a lock in on Windows only. I suppose we shall have to wait and see how that works out.
To be honest, what is likely to happen here is that Linux will take over as the host system of choice where Windows will be reduced to a guest system with the number of cores pared down to the minimum for the use of whatever the VM is being used for. Probably the reason why M$ is so interested in Linux distros - they realise that their days running on real iron are numbered.
Of course they could have shot themselves in at least one foot. Linux isn't the beast it once was and devs are increasingly interested in it as a back end so it could be that Windows could become the next legacy system that companies will be looking to push out of the door, at least on servers.
Oh, come on! Have some appreciation for the Judean People's Front Crack Suicide Squad!
They showed them!
That's Crapita for you. Not really a shock.
Actually I was at a certain "digital careers" thing last week where I heard an IBM ancient blurb on about how to get a job in the industry.
So they do exist.
Trouble was that his pitch was all about getting the right experience and qualifications to ease into life at IBM (mostly). Let me warn anybody that believes crap like that; a flexible approach to IT can save your butt on occasion but it's folk like that that insist that you are effectively scrap once you hit your mid-30s.
IT skills crisis my arse. It's all their own creation.
If Google was supplying services under a given condition then it is up to Google to honour that condition, not for the school board to try to second-guess what Google might be up to in the background. If Google could not supply the service without slurping, then they should have said so when the contract was offered so that the school board could weigh the risks.
What this all effectively means is that the next time that Google offers anything "free-of-charge", the proposed beneficiaries will probably run in the opposite direction (or at least pin Google down in the fine print so they can't try this stunt again)
Generally or just the pigs?
Four legs good, two legs baaaaaaad
Sounds a lot like the various ZX magazines that tried to write fully functional programs into what was left of the 1KB on a ZX81. ISTR they did it, too!
So what are the police doing, then? They know what they have to do...
Gotta catch 'em all!
One downvote so far! Could there actually still be a Jaguar user left out there? ;)
This all reminds me of the days when games consoles made a big thing about being 16-bit or 32-bit or 64-bit or whatever.
Do the math, as one (now defunct) company said.
I knew it! Cook wants his pound of flesh!
And there I was innocently thinking he was only after my bank balance...
I have something I used on my Windows 7 boxen for that. It goes like this:-
REM --- Block Routes
echo Blocking Routes...
route -p add 220.127.116.11 MASK 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
route -p add 18.104.22.168 MASK 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
route -p add 22.214.171.124 MASK 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
route -p add 126.96.36.199 MASK 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
route -p add 188.8.131.52 MASK 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
route -p add 184.108.40.206 MASK 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
echo - done
It's part of Killcrap, a bit of code I put together from a couple of other users' code. You can find it at http://mistie710.livejournal.com/110407.html though I'd also advise that you see http://pastebin.com/vEcT76aQ for a more up-to-date version by one of the original authors.
I am keeping my lap top on Win7 until it dies.
No problems with that. I have two machines that will probably do the same thing.
I have installed and used various flavors of Linux in the enterprise and am very familiar with both it's pros and cons.
Good to know, but bear in mind that installing enterprise distros can be different to installing home setups. It really depends on which distro you go for - I find that distros like CentOS, openSUSE and Mint can be quite friendly. Other folk have their preferences too; some of the installations give a lot more control than others. I think that Mint has gained such a reputation among newer devotees because you can click through it and accept the defaults a lot more than I, personally, would like.
The biggest con is how unfriendly it is to install and get running properly on anything other than a bare bones vanilla desktop or server. Usually it is incompatibility with the computers video processor, mouse, or hard drives, which hours of searching linux support forums will often turn up nothing that pertains to your particular configuration.
Ah yes. Now I can see this to some extent - using Linux on a bleeding edge system can sometimes be a problem as you describe - but it has been a long time since I came up against a system that absolutely hated Linux and could not support a drive, a GPU, a mouse or whatnot. You'd need to be a lot more specific about exactly what you were trying to use as some devices can be a pain, even in Windows 7.
When Win7 started hounding me to go to 10, I even tried installing several flavors of linux on my laptop, No current linux flavors would work satisfactorily.
Fair enough, but again you are being deliberately vague. Which distros? What laptop configuration? Define "work satisfactorily". I've installed Linux on any number of laptops with no problems but I would never dare to say that what was there worked "satisfactorily" unless the person using the laptop told me one way or another. The same applies for Windows.
When it dies, I will most likely order a PC built with only Linux installed and fully functional.
Good luck with that, though I suspect that you may find increasing numbers of Linux preloads in the future. Personally I only ever had one preload which was so bad that I wiped it and loaded my own choice instead.
I simply have no desire to try and follow numerous doomed rabbit trails of Linux forums for some arcane solution that turns out to just make things worse.
Fair enough. My own thought is that Linux evangelists can do more harm than good, so I always take them with several helpings of salt. That doesn't mean that you can't find the one that's right for you, but it can mean that you need to do a bit of homework rather than rely on the rantings of a Linux distro evangelist.
My professional life was installing and using Linux, but I can't get it to work on my personal laptop, so there is no threat mom and pop or Joe Lunch Bucket will ever install or use it.
My professional life also included Linux installation and administration. The first lesson I learned, however, is that Linux is NOT a specific distro; it's all of them. I tend to use openSUSE more than any other distro but that doesn't mean that I'm above going to see what is going on with other distros and sometimes picking up on things they are doing that are better than what I have. I'm also not afraid to fail or even admit error or defeat.
As seen on PooTube.
Gordon Murray, RIP 1921-2016
To be fair, that is an emotional response like the one you highlighted in point 1.
In some respects, yes, but consider why Microsoft elicits such a response. It's a large American corporate that often incorporates features into its products which seem like a good idea until users get hold of the product and something goes wrong. Now that's not that unusual, but it's what happens afterwards.
A good example is the recent Windows 10 business where an update screen, when "cancelled" by clicking the red cross, went ahead and installed anyway, believing that clicking the cross meant "go right ahead and do it" despite Microsofts' own published rules on GUI behaviour. This problem continued for some time until somebody actually got a ruling against them. Could it be that these two things were related? Possibly not, but the perception is that Microsoft are not in the business of listening to their customers, and that's what tends to make people wary of them.
I said in this forum months ago that Microsoft needed to back off and lie low for a while to try to restore a level of, if not trust then at least apathy. It seems, however, that they didn't read that comment...
Seems like the perfect time to wheel out a classic.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Hmm. Got to admit, having been using Huaweis for my last couple of phones, that the whole idea of this is very appealing as if anything, the biggest turn-off with Huawei is that damn EMUI business. Had an original Blade (well, an Orange San Fran) a few years ago which was a pretty sturdy beast overall.
All these doom and gloom worst case headline are complete tosh!
Yes, but that sort of headline sells.
Rather depressing really. Just shows how low the press have sunk.
However "broken" the EU is, and however slowly reforms happen (and they did happen) it simply can't be better to run the risk of returning to the UK of the 1970s at best, or the 1920s at worst?
We won't. The Britain of the 1970s (or 1920s) had different settings. They had various connections, treaties and arrangements that they had to rid themselves of to join the EEC and leaving the EU now won't automatically bring any of those back. We are starting from scratch, pretty much, and any agreement or arrangement that we do get back from the old days will only be where the other end of that arrangement wishes for it to happen. That's very unlikely for two reasons; first, the length of time and second, the opportunity to screw the crap out of us is likely to be very tempting to any given politician.
Having said all that, I'm of the opinion that the politicians on both sides of the argument made this happen and that the whole business has been building for years. Let Juncker poke his finger at the UK about all the concessions and opt-outs we negotiated; he isn't interested in why we did it, nor is he really interested in why we are leaving, though he really should be interested because we may only be the first to go down this path. The only way that the EU can save itself from further embarrassment and other countries looking to distance themselves from it is to look at why we have voted to leave and, more importantly, why there was a referendum in the first place.
But as for the UK, it has to sort out a place for itself in a world that is very different from what it was back when the British Empire was winding down. The governments of the last few decades have sold off the family silver to other countries, the infrastructure never truly recovered from the last World War in some ways and any superiority that we might have had has long since disappeared. Yes, we have (or will do once Article 50 is triggered) taken back control, but of what?
We live in interesting times, it seems.
Crapita indeed! I was exchanging tweets only yesterday about how easy it is to hit the adjacent key in a hurry or even to miss a key. Don't they have any poofreaders there?
(Whispering voice) Windows application store, stoooore, stoooore.... secure boot, boooot, booot.... Telemetry....Teleeeeeeemetry... Teleeeeeemetry....
The greater good... the greater good... the greater good...
Talk around, Windows 10 has a worse reputation than Windows 8. And these are by people who have no idea what Windows 10 is really doing.
But then this is what is liable to do the most damage; Microsoft's reputation will suffer because of the public perception of the system, not necessarily the reality. The fact, for example, that Microsoft were making noises about crippling support for W7 in some upcoming chipsets. People generally couldn't give a dingo's kidney about the chipset but the idea of crippling anything will certainly frighten the crap out of them.
W10 is certainly not getting the best reputation when it comes to ordinary users. The real problem is that it follows up the poor GUI design and flaws of W8 and still insists on pushing a number of features that users weren't keen on (I wonder if the "problem" would have been as bad if W10 was released after W7 rather than W8.x). That and the insistence on pushing services into the cloud which isn't necessarily what people want. I'll leave all the slurp business as you've heard it a million times already.
What Microsoft (and a few others too) need to remember is that "PC" stands for Personal Computer. Not a television, not a web interface, not even gaming system, but an amalgamation of all of these things and a lot more. Users of PCs want to decide what they want to use them for, not have the use dictated to them by a faceless Merkan corporate, and if that mean holding on to older system a bit longer to avoid having this happen, then they will do it.
That's before we even get to the situation where people are looking to get the best value, so will continue to use older hardware for as long as that hardware is capable of doing what the user wants it to do. However, in this age where a simple profit isn't good enough, you can see why a story like this crops up.
You could try Devuan. http://devuan.org/ They made a point of never supporting systemd.
Agreed. I have a VB set up at the moment running Devuan. It seems fine compared with my last openSUSE install pre-systemd (11.4) and all the hype about systemd's abilities to open faster and perform better seems to be belied by Devuan.
Of course, as I found out on Twitter recently, there are any number of users out there that refuse to accept that just because RedHat have successfully rammed it down the throats of the more mainstream distros and its users, and they are happily dealing with its complexities and breakages, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is right.
Before W95. I can recall installing it on W3.11 for Workgroups. Mind you, it was a separate install.
Your first question I would consider to be one concerning host system, in which case any of the more recent Microsoft systems or Linux systems can do what you need. I personally run all my virtual systems off openSUSE but you'll find it just as easy to do with any of the more well known Linux distros including the two you mention.
As the article says, VHDs can be picked up by Virtualbox with no trouble. If it's Win98 you want to keep around, I also keep a W98SE VB hanging around though more for curiosity these days. I originally had it for testing but I can't remember when I last needed to test anything with it.
In theory you should be able to export a W98 drive to a partition which can be read by Linux. Unlike Windows, Linux can read quite a wide range of file systems, including NTFS and the various FAT file systems, unassisted though bear in mind that there are a few pitfalls (mostly speed related) with this mostly related to the way in which Linux is forced to do this when it comes to Microsoft proprietary formats.
Oh this brings back memories!
"I should be able to email any size of file I like! It's <insert year here> not the dark ages!"
(as if the calendar year has any relevance to trying to max everything out at the expense of other users and such)
"But I'm a very important person. Surely you can expand my mailbox just this once!"
(usually from somebody with an overinflated sense of importance and a habit of never clearing their mailbox because "they might need it one day")
As for SLAs, we had a temporary hatchet person brought in by upper management with the remit to slim down the IT section, improve the efficiency of the section and get all the SLAs sorted out. Oh yeah, people got made redundant alright but did anything else get done?
Not by that person anyway, and not until long after they had left and the mess left behind was sorted out.
"Attention, attention. We are ready to do you now." - Beavis & Butthead Do America
POS? Piece Of Shit?
What VM system did you use?
Did you activate W7 before attempting to upgrade?
Did you update the system once loaded?
And finally, the most important question...
C'mon guys, let's cut Microsoft a bit of slack here...
Why should we? They haven't cut us any slack over their recent systems, have they?
I gave up at this point.and asked him why he had chosen to upgrade. He said he didn't he clicked the red X everytime the message appeared. Yeah MSFT have had to trick people into installing it
Looks like Microsoft have gotten themselves into very hot water over that little shinanigen.
Perhaps if they had done this sooner then there wouldn't be such apathy from long time sufferers.