I know its complicated but...

I was waiting for this round up with high hopes that it would give me a good indication of which budget phone I can buy that wont come with the stupid vodafone 360 (or equivalent) software installed on it. From the round up it looks like the Orange san fran is by far the best in terms of cheapness / functionality but when you say it comes with a choice of vanilla or the orange software (which I really dont want) I can only find it on Play.com for £99 which doesn't mention anything about choice of software or the orange shop which doesn't mention a choice either!

Ideally I would like to be able to put a vodafone PAYG sim in it from time to time too but as it's an orange phone would that be too much to ask (even if you buy it from Play.com)??

Apologies for being such a "noob" - I am still using my original Nokia Navigator from about 5 years ago (brilliant phone and still going strong) and havent really kept up to date with the mobile phone world.

Anyone got thje time / energy patience to explain it to me?