Re: Re: Any one notice the part

That's only for the iPhone 4S / iPad cases - the older iPhones didn't use qualcomm parts.

In the other cases, it sounds like motorola did offer a license, and apple refused - but apple are saying the offer wasn't fair or reasonable, which it's required to be under FRAND (which moto signed themselves up to). From what I've seen, it's a very long way from fair and reasonable, and apple would have been pretty stupid to accept it.

The problem here isn't really the patent system, or apple, or even FRAND - it's german law in these particular regions. It's massively biased in favour of the patent holder - something along the lines of "if apple found this license unacceptable, then they have to start paying motorola anyway or motorola can get their products banned".

Even worst case, I think if apple kept appealing it'd go to the EU courts and get overturned, but in the meantime motorola can potentially get apple's products banned in large markets.