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A computer crook who swindled eBay customers out of more than £185,000 has been jailed for three-and-a-half years. Richard Kirk, 22, and from the Sherwood area of Nottingham, raided the PayPal accounts of 303 eBay users, transferring the money to accounts under his control. He used the stolen funds to buy a variety of goods, …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    This is Nottingham fail..

    "Kirk pleaded guilty to five charges of fraud, four of theft and one relating to the use of an Acer laptop during the frauds."

    I didn't realise that using an Acer laptop was a crime.. figures really...

    1. Elmer Phud
      Coat

      It can feel like punishment

      Mine is about 6 years old - it's performance is criminal - and lags a bit.

    2. Bill Neal
      Go

      Productive

      apparently using one for anything productive is a crime. Just a few years for gold and prizes? may be worth it if he could hide any from authorities.

  2. b
    FAIL

    Hacks for Gold?

    This guys an idiot.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    He would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for ...

    >Kirk was caught after one of his victims contacted police

    He had thought of everything, except for the victims telling on him. Even a criminal genius makes the odd mistake now and then.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    Wa ha ha ha [diabolidal laughter]...

    He was tracked to his secret tropical hideaway in an extinct volcano with sliding roof doors, an underground monorail and a giant map of the world...no, wait...

    "...who tracked Kirk down to his Mum's house."

    Wuss!

  5. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    Odd...

    So he stole an average of 600 pounds from over 300 paypal accounts, before one of the victims thought to call the police to report a theft? That seems unlikely somehow. What's the bets that following Paypal's internal dispute service gave all his victims the runaround for months on end, before the police finally got involved? Isn't exactly rocket science to ask the bank of the destination account for the name and address of the account holder, then turn up in a squad car, is it...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Intangible goods and/or Services?

      That song/and dance seems to work pretty well even with scams through credit cards. My wife - allegedly at least - inadvertently signed up for one of those deals. A friend got hit with one a few years prior as well. The ones I've seen typically claimed to be either group buying clubs or credit monitoring services, all with a smallish recurring monthly fee. As they were what I'd call gray-area scams - i.e. ones that wanted to stay in business and not get thrown into jail - they were not too difficult to put a stop to the payments, but trying to get your money back for prior charges was not for the faint of heart. After all, a "service" of some sort was allegedly rendered :/

      Not trying to defend Paypal or the credit card companies for any of this, but I'd imagine it's pretty difficult for them to tell the real scams from the borderline legal scams.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        WTF?

        Small?

        I would not call Experian "small scam".

        They decided to pass on a 45K mortgage filed vs my credit record. Granted, it was me financing the house extension, but if their service was what it claims to be they should have notified me about this change to my credit record.

        So I promptly cancelled the "monitoring" immediately after that.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      The police are useless

      "So he stole an average of 600 pounds from over 300 paypal accounts, before one of the victims thought to call the police to report a theft?"

      Have you ever tried to report a credit/debit card fraud to the police (in the UK) which does not involve the physical card being stolen and then used?

      I suggest you try it.

      They will refuse POINT-BLANK to deal with it and nothing you can do will make them do otherwise.

      You will not get a crime number. You are entirely on your own - other than the card issuer who will usually proceed on the assumption that you're lying.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Thumb Up

    Robin Hood ?

    Robbing Bastard !

    1. mafoo
      Coat

      or..

      Robbing Hoddie...

      1. Anonymous Coward
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        I'm guessing

        you meant to type Hoodie, not something to do with carrying bricks..However, it made me smile, have an upvote.

        1. mafoo
          Happy

          yeh

          hehe, yeh. It's been a long day. -.-

  7. Sureo

    Hard working...

    "A lot of effort was put in by you over a long period of time in order to conduct the fraud you did."

    At least he's not a lazy good for nothing crook.

  8. Paratrooping Parrot
    Joke

    Sheriff

    I guess the Sheriff was happy to take him in.

  9. Ian Loveridge
    FAIL

    Paypal ignored this because...

    the stuff was never delivered to the account holders address. Instead the guy had it all delivered to his mum's and therefore it wasn't covered by PayPal's processes.

    Paypal effectively turned a blind eye because it was outside their T&C's and they weren't liable.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Happy

      Ahhh - makes more sense

      ...than my virtual goods/intangible services angle.

    2. BristolBachelor Gold badge

      Sounds about right...

      I ordered something on ebay, and paid by paypal, but it was never delivered to my address. Perhaps that is why Paypal completely ignored me?

      Paypal also ignored any requests for the "bank details" of the perp that they claim are used to check that the non-existant address they had for him was actaully correct.

      However Barclaycard came to the rescue and slapped Paypal :)

  10. Pete 43
    Grenade

    Did he threaten to blow up the air port too?

    ABCDEFG

  11. Philip Cohen
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    eBay/PayPal/Donahoe: Dead Men Walking

    Yes, you can bet the other 302 people who had funds taken from their PayPal accounts were given the right royal runaround by PayPal before the 303rd person finally broke through PayPal's most unprofessional and disingenuous user agreement and non existent customer service.

  12. Mark 65

    3 1/2 years?

    He should have just mugged people, he'd have probably gotten off lighter.

  13. Dave Cheetham

    Future career

    He should do well in the banking industry when he comes out. Bankers raid your account, buy gold bullion and live extravagant lifestyles, and they don't care if they get caught out!

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