The Pirate Bay absconds with domain name of its nemesis

They don't host any downloads..

They don't host any downloads - they are a tracker..

These people are idiots

So some gives you a domain where you have no idea how they got hold of it and it's a domain that'll obviously bring attention to themselves. So they're taking a chance this domain wasn't obtained by deceptive or criminal means and receipt of stolen goods was a crime the last time I checked and ignorance is normally no defence in law. The Pirate Bay is a facilitator for criminal acts and taking the piss out of a anti-piracy organisation is profoundly stupid. I have breaking news for them: if they think they can hide under the cover of soverign law whilst allowing people to break the law in other countries they're dead wrong.

May this be a shot across the bows for everyone...

The moral of the story here is always be 300% sure your domains arent up for renewal, you never know when someone with more malicous intentions than setting up a fake search engine whilst holding your domain for ransom, may pounce and take it from you...

Pirate Bay and infected torrents

Its all well and good saying that The Pirate Bay should trace back the origin of infected torrents. What tends to happen is genuine torrents are delibertly malseeded by the likes of the MPA (and their ilk). This means that short of removing the whole torrent from the index- that you will have a percentage of bad seeds there. You could set up a system for killing torrents every couple of hours, and only allowing reseeds from recognised sources- but that would kill the whole torrent model in its tracks. All-in-all providing you're reasonably discerning with your downloads, you should be fine.

finger sniffer

You're so wrong.

The domain name was let to the phonographic indistry. They let the rent for this "Intellectual Property" slide and, in precisely the same way as Real Property rents mean you lose the right to live there, the phonographic institute lost it.

This move of the Pirate Institute into this rental agreement is no more criminal than when a student moves in to a flat you rented then left and let the contract slide. Or is the landlord (Verisign in this case) not allowed to rent their "IP"?

IFPI.org offer RSS Feeds from IFPI.com

http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/rss.html

Now what would be funny....

...is if MPAA or RIAA forget to renew their domains.

Unfortunately, the US have laws against cyber-squatting, don't they? And as a US based domain, those laws would apply regardless of whether TPB are in the US or not.

@dot org still works

won't matter when the dot com has a higher page rank ;p

@danny re root dns hacks

don't underestimate the pirates

Golden Rule #1: always AV scan anything you download before attempting to use it

Golden Rule #2: never ask pirates to censor anything (bad downloads included)

re: sovereign law

"if they think they can hide under the cover of soverign law whilst allowing people to break the law in other countries they're dead wrong."

So according to your logic, anyone who brews beer in America should be prosecuted whenever their beer is smuggled to Saudi Arabia?

@Cambrasa

Anyone who brews 'beer' in America and attempts to sell it internationally should be liable for prosecution under the Geneva convention and any relevant trade descriptions acts.

(Okay, yes, I know some US beer is drinkable these days. Vast majority still isn't, though...)

Re:@jeremy

"While I dont agree with the whole hideing behind sovereign law person I still hate to see the typicall response from people like Jeremy who seem to believe that anything bad that happens in the world is of course an Americans fault. However seeing as how he signed his post 'idiot' I guess I should have seen it coming lol."

Try as I might, I cannot find the point in Jeremy's post where he blames America for anything at all. However, he did mention the US and fail to point out that it was the Best Country in the World(TM) so I can see why you're getting defensive. Although it is somewhat of a steroetype, it's a safe bet that anytime you hear someone use the term 'sovereign law' in the same manner they would use 'offshore tax haven', they will be an American.

Also, if you're going to make witty jibes about him being an idiot, you might want to take care of the three speeling and five, grammatical errors in your own post.

Hahaha...

....How careless of them. Still, hardly surprising they have been `usurped` by Pirate Bay chaps, who, let's be honest, are far more on the ball and capable than the try-hard profiteers and middlemen who work for such repugnant `legitimate` organisations such as the RIAA. Like the RIAA actually `care` about the `artists`..... get a grip... they are just profiteering talentless corporate thugs who skim off as much as they can from the artists. True musicians/artists will always profit sufficiently from their fanbase, and even if they didnt, they would still produce their art. Most, if not all decent artists produce their art regardless of revenue. If they don't, they are probably not `real` artists, and are instead cynically spewing out generic derivative crap to make money, and people really shouldn't care if every single one of them disappears - the world will be a richer place for it.

I was going to respond directly to the `stinky finger` but I just realised it's a little like shooting fish, it hardly seems fair... suffice to say he seems a little challenged when it comes to constructing a logical and clearly articulated argument. The alias says it all, really, such wit... I would imagine the reason your finger smells so bad is due to the fact you have it jammed in your mouth most of the time, to prevent the sh*t from spilling out. Why on earth did you remove it?

RE: These people are idiots

"So some gives you a domain where you have no idea how they got hold of it and it's a domain that'll obviously bring attention to themselves. So they're taking a chance this domain wasn't obtained by deceptive or criminal means and receipt of stolen goods was a crime the last time I checked and ignorance is normally no defence in law."

In the U.K., if I purchase or take a gift from someone and don't have reason to believe it's stolen, I'm not commiting a crime. It'd be like getting arrested because your friend gave you a birthday present that was stolen.

"The Pirate Bay is a facilitator for criminal acts and taking the piss out of a anti-piracy organisation is profoundly stupid. I have breaking news for them: if they think they can hide under the cover of soverign law whilst allowing people to break the law in other countries they're dead wrong."

Again, you're holding someone liable for other people breaking the law. It's not TPB's fault that people in other countries and breaking their local law. I'm sure that's like saying that a coffee shop in Holland should be prosecuted because someone purchased some cannabis then tried to smuggle it into a country where it's illegal.

The Pirate Bay is untouchable by any Anti-Piracy Organisations due to the local law regarding Torrent Trackers. If Swedish laws change, then maybe it'll be a different story, but right now? They're free to do what they're doing right now.

Fair trade rules!

"anyone who brews beer in America should be prosecuted whenever their beer is smuggled to Saudi Arabia?" lol

@jeremy

> a comment that says " you can't hide behind sovereign law" must come from an american

With this kind of reasoning, I could prove that jeremy is a transsexual prostitute.

@ Adrian Jackson:

>(Okay, yes, I know some US beer is drinkable these days. Vast majority still isn't, though...)

Juding U.S. beer by Budweiser/Coors/Miller is like judging European beer by Stella Artois. I think most Americans know better than to do that.

From the RIAA website

"It’s commonly known as piracy, but it’s a too benign term that doesn’t even begin to adequately describe the toll that music theft takes on the many artists, songwriters, musicians, record label employees and others whose hard work and great talent make music possible."

"Music piracy" too benign a term? You're right guys. I think we should start calling it "music gang-rape". Or how about "music terrorism"? Or even better, "music SS-concentration camp baby mutilation".

I might not fully agree with The Pirate Bay's "cause", but I've got to admit that their methods of sticking it up to the MAFIAA are very entertaining.

the old ways....

I remember years ago, before the advent of the Internet,,,, you went out and bought a new Album... The first few weeks of having it, it got recorded onto compact cassettes a 6 to 12 times over and handed around to all your mates..

was that music piracy... yes.... was the RIAA and all that mob screeching and playing bully boy tatics on single parent women? no...

personally... i have downloaded lots of albums off the Internet, all of them are copies of CD's and vinyl I have bought in the past. and still own... is this piracy, no, I don't think so...

i know of one or two people who download music from p2p, and if they like the album, they go and buy it... and to quote, "I just like to have the disk and the inlay cards and all that stuff.." is that wrong?

In the past, I have bought albums purely on the strength of previous releases from that artist... never again, I have a large stack of cd's i will never listen to again..one that springs to mind is Alanis Morrisette's second album, "jagged little pill' was awesome, and worth every penny, but 'Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie' was total $h1t ..I consider myself ripped off by the artist and music industry for those... maybe a organization should be set up to protect the consumer from poor album releases...

You can't lose what you don't have

I listened with interest to a recent radio interview with a student who had recently downloaded the latest Radiohead album. Givin the option of paying as little as 50p, he chose to pay £5 for the album, which he considered a fair price; but had the album only been available on CD, for typically around £12, he would have downloaded it for nothing, as he could not afford to pay that much.

The RIAA et al. cannot claim every album downloaded by someone unable or unwilling to pay the full CD retail price as a lost sale. If the free download (or copy of a mate's CD) were not available, then many would simply not have a copy. There never was a potential sale to lose.

As for protecting the artist, if you managed stop those who will never buy the CD from enjoying the music, would they then lose interest in the band? would they then also stop buying tickets to the gigs, where the artists are increasingly making the real money? Of course, if the record companies don't get a share of the ticket receipts, that's not really their concern.

Dear Valued European:

jeremy, et al,

why several of you seem to feel the need to america bash is unclear...it surely has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

for anyone still living under a rock, we here in the states are quite aware that we are having technical difficulties and are working to resolve them. please stay on the line and an american with sense with be right with you---hopefully after November '08.

meanwhile: yes, your beer is superior to ours. but who drinks beer, anyway? soccer fans and college girls, that's who. try our bourbon and you'll want to immigrate.

love,

your cousins

(p.s.--diana was a whore.)