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Patient care will not be affected by an NHS decision to pull a doctors' appraisal website offline to improve its security, but the life of UK doctors will be complicated. The return of the NHS Appraisal Toolkit, which provides an online database that allows NHS doctors to prepare for their annual appraisals, is not due until 3 …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Megaphone

    doctors' appraisal

    If its anything like our local surgery will their appraisals include a ranking in;

    Ability to eat cake

    Ability to eat cake whilst ignoring patients at the desk

    Ability to eat cake and ignore the phone any day after 16:30

    Ability to eat cake and ignore the phone any day before 10:00

    Ability to eat biscuits

    ??

    1. Anonymous Coward
      FAIL

      It would appear

      that you are conflating the job of a relatively unqualified receptionist with that of someone who has spent five years in medical school, followed by up to eight years of hospital-based further medical training and continuous assessment before being allowed to work as a GP.

      Since the whole Shipman thing, GPs are generally not allowed to work in a practice on their own; the knock-on effect of this being that GP practices have grown larger, with the associated need to employ a tier of practice management staff. I would suggest that this is down to the political interference in the NHS of MPs, rather than a lack of willingness of hard working medical staff to answer your phone call for a sick note.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        It would appear....

        You are wiling to be disingenuous.

        There are thousands of single-handed GPs still practising. Shipman hasn't made a blind bit of difference (but the QIPP agenda will).

        One thing that almost all GP practices have in common, large or small, is a tier of practice management staff -- with small practices employing one or two receptionists, and large ones employing many more. It's got sod all to do with political interference.

        And the ability to provide patients with decent access to GPs (and nurses et al) is not correlated with the size of a practice. However, your chippy defensive response makes me suspect it's pretty shite at your practice, and that your default position is to blame the PCT for all your woes. If that's the case, then it's time for you to remember that you're supposed to be looking after your patients, that the PCT is your sole customer and it might be prudent to start behaving as though their opinions actually mattered, and finally that British GPs are the best-remunerated in the world, for all the moaning about what a dreadful deal they get.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    Test the Managers not the GP's!

    Its not the GP's that need assessing regularly, but the dictators who run practices now and treat patients as an unimportant inconvenience rather than the reason for the existence of the practice.

    Id wish for an appraisal of the way practices are run, mine has taken a complete nosedive since merging with the other 2 in this area leaving ZERO patient choice. The most attentive and thorough GP has left the practice after continual complaints about him taking long than the standard "4 mins per patient" (or thereabouts) for consultation leaving many of us feeling that there isn't a doctor left there that we can trust - or actually has the time to get to the issue at hand, and yet there seems to be no government initiative to test the quality of management imposed on us by these faceless individuals, and its that issue that impacts on patients as much as any other

    Everything is don't through an 08444 number and at the peak of chaos was resulting in queues of upto 20 mins, and a 3 week wait for a routine appointment. The changes needed in the NHS is to get rid of the bullsh*t practice managers who seem to have forgotten that the "kingdom" they rule is in fact a PUBLIC service paid for with PUBLIC money!

    Fail because thats what the super practices do in terms of patient friendliness and accessibility!

  3. Camilla Smythe

    Oh Go On

    I know for a fact that the NHS and whoever they want to pay money to get the job not done run third party Google Analytics scripts on their HTTPS pages.

    Like I don't know for shit but that strikes me as being totally fucking branedead with no available excuse.

    Go on... Apply for an NHS job and see if Google is sniffing your panties.

  4. Mary Hawking

    Back to the effects of taking down the site..

    The NHS Appraisal Toolkit is the *only* place I, as a GP, would normally store most of the information I need for my annual Appraisal and keep for Revalidation (coming to all doctors sometime soon).

    The GPs - and hospital doctors - affected are those who *have* to have an Appraisal before the end of the 2009/10 NHS year - i.e. 31.3.10.

    If the site is unobtainable for any reason, there will be consequences for both the individual doctors *and* their Appraisers - both sets having to run to tight schedules at the end of the year.

    As the GP interviewed said, this is stressful for all the doctors concerned, both appraisers and appraisees, but no risk to patients: the major complaint among GPs on different lists seems to be the failure to email the documentation needed when they request it.

    After all, the numbers affected are relatively low - no more than 4/52ths of the doctors in the country (I am adding two weeks to allow for the doctors needing appraisal in the two weeks after 3.3.10: appraisers usually need two weeks to read through all the Appraisee's evidence).

    Surely there must be a Disaster Plan covering this contingency?

    Finally, this taking down of the site affects all doctors coming up for appraisal, not just GPs, and will no doubt be causing as much stress in hospitals as in General Practice - maybe more....

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