Opera 10 hits release candidate status

Maybe...

...if they would focus on the browser and not the email client they'd have better luck.

Record-setting

Are they going to try to set a Guinness record for fewest downloads on release day?

I'm going, I'm going.

Is it going to have....

A emo rage report MS to whoever they feel like module built in?

Pity...

that the Opera marketing department is shite.

Go get 'em

"Maybe if they would focus on the browser and not the email client they'd have better luck."

Got to agree with that. Is there NO way to get rid of it?

but have they fixed the memory problem?

Greetings and salutations.

I like opera a lot, and use it almost exclusively. However, the fact that it slowly will grab more and more memory, until it brings everything to a creaking, cold molasses covered crawl is more than JUST a little annoying.

vimperator

i lvoe opera. but theres some firefox addons that i just can't live without, so unless it's shit-your-pants fast or there's some feature that is mental then i can't see myself switching.

They could have had a better future...

It's a shame that Opera only quite recently dropped its fee based approach if you didn't want the advertising sponsored version of its browsers. If they hadn't followed this path, I have no doubt doubt that Opera would be a far more used browser than Firefox, Safari and all the "other, apart from IE" browsers put together.

As it is, Opera remains a "best kept secret". More secure, faster and certainly more innovative than any of the other browser producers.

Like MarkOne said, I wouldn't waste my time on anything else.

@vimperator @Def

My bank blocks Opera for no reason at all. However if you press F12, Edit Site Preferences, Network, I can masquerade as Firefox and everything is just dandy. It does not change the way Opera works, only tells the server it's Firefox and give me Firefox code...

What Firefox Addons? Almost all of the good ones are already in Opera by default. And because they are built in, you don't get the security holes than Firefox has..

Forced e-mail client!

Can MS complain to the EU about them bundling a mail client that is woven into the browser with no option to remove it? Yes it's pedantic and I'm not serious about the complaint part but why add bulk when some (most?) only want a browser?

excellent

Nice. Bring it on.

@PaulR79

The email client does not add any bulk. You get a browser, email, RSS, IRC client all for half the size of Firefox..

None of the features consume any resources until they are activated (in the case of mail, creating a mail account activates the mail backend code).

Yeh baby

C'mon the fan boys...we'll make sure we download millions and billions of copies...i'll have at least 2000 downloads myself. Yummy.

Although I am silly, I do love Opera...been using it for about 8 years...nonstop. Like a trucker on Redbull.

@MarkOne

"What Firefox Addons? Almost all of the good ones are already in Opera by default."

Well, i quite like vimperator. As well as firebug and Greasemonkey.

Don't get me wrong, i love opera and i used to use it extensively. But for whatever reason the dev community has sided with firefox.

@MarkOne

"The email client does not add any bulk."

Did you actually think about this statement before you posted it? Of course it adds bulk. Maybe it's still smaller than FF, but it still increases the installer size and drive space occupied after installation.

"None of the features consume any resources until they are activated". So no disc space is used until they are activated? Hmmm. Okay!

@Dave Mundt re: memory problem

Dave, my sentiments exactly. I've found the same problem, especially when you've upgraded from a previous version.

The excuse that "it must be the plugins etc" doesn't hold water when the problem did not occur before the upgrade.

So the only option at this stage is to:

1) Uninstall old Opera

2) Back up old profile information

3) Install new Opera

4) Restore bookmarks, mail etc, but not the settings

5) Reinstall new plugins

This was my prime driver to go to Chrome provisionally (Chrome certainly has no problem with memory leakage of this magnitude that I can see).

@Anonymous Coward 12:29 GMT

Clearly when I was talking about resources, I was referring to CPU and memory..

All Operas functionality is contained in a single DLL, that weighs in at 4MB. That's the rendering engine, the browser, the news/RSS, the chat, widgets and all the other stuff.

If they pulled out mail, it might save 200KB of disk space. If that worries you, then I suggest you stop using your PC right now....

As for addons. Greasemonkey is built into Opera (called UserJS and more powerful), as is FireBug (it's called FireFLy in Opera), and you can get vimperator from here:

http://my.opera.com/Blazeix/blog/vimperator-for-opera

@Markone

Well, thats told me. i guess i'll be installing opera 10

@MarkOne

OK I didn't know that. I haven't installed Opera for a while, at least not recent enough to remember the options on install, but the mention of e-mail client made me think it was a default part of the program. I used to use Firefox exclusively but I have an addon addiction that rendered it painfully slow so I now use Chrome. I may gave Opera a try when the final release is out, I always liked the right-click "paste and go" option and only Chrome has it as a normal option outside of Opera.