Win7 aka Vista SP2.5
<quote>as a campaign to get people hooked</quote>
Damn the pusher man!
Customers on Microsoft's volume licenses will get access to Windows 7 almost two months early and receive limited discounts to switch from Windows XP. Windows 7 will be made available to customers on volume licenses from September 1. The next iteration of Microsoft's client operating system will launch on October 22. Those on …
The few organizations that made the mistake of installing Vista on their computers will be interested in the upgrade to Windows 7. Dissatisfaction with Vista gives them a genuine reason to upgrade.
Most large organizations running XP will convert gradually beginning in late 2010, as they order new computers with Windows 7 installed.
For the next 2 years, the only existing company-owned computers likely to be converted from XP to Windows 7 will be a small number of existing high-end workstations running software that can benefit from Windows 7. Even those computers are unlikely to be converted in the next 9 months.
"Traditionally when we deliver the release it pushes the envelope on the existing hardware."
Not true, XP was actually FASTER on most hardware compared to 98SE/ME; and THAT is what I want, not even more bloat, with bells and whistles I will never use; but a lean, mean, FAST OS that I can add features to WHEN I WANT THEM.
(Sticking with XP).
Let's say something between a 3 to 5 License Pack for WIndows.
This would be more useful in that as the ~goto~ Family Guy BOFH, I could just use A One Disc Solution On all these "PCs" and not feel like a dirty pirate?
BTW: If Vista got anything right, and granted, it didn't got many things Wrong.
I really like the fact that I do have an ability to at least use the Mainland Continental European Languages. (Namely English and German).
With XP or earlier I would have had to use a different localized Disc.
So in this regard Vista was WIN!
But I really would like to see a Home Five License Pack!
"Traditionally when we deliver the release it pushes the envelope on the existing hardware."
Therein lies the problem, MS.
I should never need 'cutting edge' hardware to run the operating system and WIMP environment!
Why should I need a machine at least three times faster than my current unit to run a word processor?
Windows 7 is basically Vista without all the programming and design errors so why should existing vista users have to pay for an upgrade.
M$ should be made to give all vista users a free upgrade to windows 7 this being as vista never worked properly and M$ fixing the errors and saying it is a new OS is unacceptable.
I understand that fixing vista cost money however that was money they should have spent before releasing vista in the first place.
Only for specific values of faster, and only later on. People tend to forget history.
When XP was released it had much better memory management, and a better (NTFS) filesystem in certain circumstances (purely on the basis of reading one well ordered file at a time, FAT32 is pretty fast). In other situations FAT32 won (yes, available on XP, but not the default). Games were noticeably faster on Windows 98 for months after XP's release. Audio drivers, iirc, were better. etc etc.
In summary : XP - good for data processing type operations. W98 - good for shitty games, small numbers of undemanding applications and dodgy low level fuck the OS over hacks.
XP's drivers were improved, and it became the better OS for all classes of application. The same has happened with Vista - the drivers are now much better than they were.
Personally I don't have many regrets using Vista - it's been a fast and stable OS for me.
I have been testing Windows 7 RC1 on the same machine as my main Windows XP installation, and it is actually faster at most tasks. From login screen to loaded desktop is alot faster and even mundane things like loading My Computer seem zippier with 7. There are also really nice features like window preview (which I didn't realise was available in Vista) which make the whole experience that much nicer.
I'm not an M$ fanboi by any means, Vista was a user experience to slit your wrist to, but I really like Windows 7 and will be getting me a copy when it is released and hope that by that time, there will be versions of AVG and Zonealarm that work with it.
I think that, for once, M$ may actually score a win with 7!
I can see business persons being pressured into upgrading, and saving money, and getting productivity, and not using 8 year old operating systems, and blah blah blah...
Then going over to their IT guys and saying "upgrade us now", and then not caring when the IT guys say "actually this won't run on our cheap-ass business machines", and then blaming the IT guys when the experience is bad.
Discounts are evil.
If I bought a car and it failed to the extent that Vista does I would have already taken it back, also they do give you a discount its called "trade in".
I got Vista with this PC but until Windows 7 it was running a retail version of XP. Under Law all products have to be fit for purpose and Vista just wasnt fit for anything but the bin.
When i got word of the requirements of Windows Vista i built a new system just for it. I had no problems with compatibility other then they screwed over my sound blaster lol.. I use both Vista and XP and i like Vista better. A software company doesn't have to tailor its OS to the current user base. I mean when a state of the art video game is released and you have to upgrade the video card to play it full on you don't hear people whining and crying. They either upgrade to the required specs or play it at a lesser setting. The same really applies to operating systems. Heck there are still windows 95 users around the world if not windows 3.2. Did Microsoft make a mistake from a general marketing perspective with Windows Vista. Yes for those with systems that couldn't enjoy all it had to offer sure. I'm from the DOS era and i remember with every new OS comes a i won't buy it 30 gazzilion resistance is futile nay sayers.