back to article VirtualBox 5.1 debuts

Well that was quick. Mere days after announcing a release candidate, Oracle has emitted VirtualBox 5.1 Big Red reckons the following new features are worth getting excited about: Improved Performance: Significantly improved performance for multi-CPU virtual machines and networking. Bug Reporting Tool: New utility able to …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Zombie

    Who's actually developing this? I can only assume Oracle haven't noticed they bought it, and the original team are keeping their heads down, and hoping they never do.

    1. asdf

      Re: Zombie

      Well hopefully they focus mostly on windows hosts as QEMU/KVM and Xen make them quite unnecessary on Linux hosts (at least for non enterprise use cases and enterprise should probably be using VMWare anyway).

      1. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

        Re: Zombie

        Qemu is a bit of a pain to use, and KVM and Xen are a rather more involved solution than Virtualbox. Virtualbox, last time I looked, was an app you installed which 'just worked'

        (although personally I found it less than reliable, so didn't bother).

        I know there are various front ends that make Qemu/Xen/KVM significantly more turnkey, but they'll generally be less integrated than VMWare or Virtualbox.

        On Windows there's also VMWare (works particularly well), and HyperV (built into Windows 8 onwards, as long as your CPU supports SLAT/EPT/RVI). It has to be better than both of those to succeed..

        1. asdf

          Re: Zombie

          >Virtualbox, last time I looked, was an app you installed which 'just worked'

          And whose performance at least for version 5.0 was terrible on Linux hosts.

          >On Windows there's also VMWare (works particularly well),

          Not free software at all (yes neither are some parts of VBox either) but yes VMware the superior solution in general.

          >and HyperV (built into Windows 8 onwards

          Which means if you will not see it at work for many years. Virtualbox is great if you want to create a quick informal *nix VM on a desktop windows host and haven't bothered to hit up work for Workstation (never like running supposedly "free" for personal use closed source stuff at work).

          1. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

            Re: Zombie

            >>Virtualbox, last time I looked, was an app you installed which 'just worked'

            >And whose performance at least for version 5.0 was terrible on Linux hosts.

            Last time I tried it on Windows it wasn't great either, but that's not really the point.

            >>On Windows there's also VMWare (works particularly well),

            >Not free software at all (yes neither are some parts of VBox either) but yes VMware the superior >solution in general.

            VMware player is free for non commercial use, as is ESXi.

            >>and HyperV (built into Windows 8 onwards

            >Which means if you will not see it at work for many years. Virtualbox is great if you want to create a >quick informal *nix VM on a desktop windows host and haven't bothered to hit up work for Workstation >(never like running supposedly "free" for personal use closed source stuff at work).

            Windows 8 has been out for some time, and there are companies using Hyper V on it, such as ourselves.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Zombie

            VirtualBox runs pretty well on Solaris hosts, gives me Windows 7 and Linux VMs on my desktop, so it is definitely value for money :)

            1. asdf

              Re: Zombie

              Virtual Box also handles Solaris guests pretty well also (as one would expect).

    2. Jyve

      Re: Zombie

      Very much so. I've got a few useful VM's laying around, would prefer for Oracle to not notice how useful this is to many people.

      But if they do, guess it's VMWare time. But I've just got used to VBox.

      1. asdf

        Re: Zombie

        Fairly trivial to export and import VMs as OVAs between most of the solutions out there. Do lose your snapshots I guess though.

  2. Joerg

    DirectX 11 and DirectX 12 support in virtual machines is absolutely needed. But still no one added support for it.

    1. ntevanza

      Free to complain

      People wailing about FOSS that doesn't have their feature is always very edifying.

      Re reliability, I think I've had one VirtualBox VM abend in five years, which is a lot of 9s. The only other problems I've had have been self imposed, trying to move VMs around and getting my snapshots in a knot.

      It's not an enterprise tool, but maybe that helps Oracle not notice it.

    2. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

      'absolutely needed' - for what, exactly?

      I suppose it might be useful for some game development, but even then I wouldn't bank on it.

      1. asdf

        >'absolutely needed' - for what, exactly?

        Second that. I tend to want to give my VMs less access to the real hardware not more.

    3. John Sanders
      Holmes

      DX11/DX12

      Non-trivial to achieve, at least not until the FOSS stack (Mesa) is OGL 4.5 compliant (They are very close)

      If my memory serves me right lots of code for the DX9 video driver VBox uses came from Wine, and Wine is busy implementing DX10/11 right now.

      So it will be a while for that to happen.

  3. Dazed and Confused

    Could be a first

    Did I just see someone use the words "systemd" and "popular" in the same sentence without any negatives. WOW

  4. Eldnah
    Linux

    VMs everywere

    Vbox is easy to install, configure, and manage on Linux. And since VMware has pathetic support for running vCenter on Linux (even the web client doesn't work right), I use Vbox to run Windows, where I can then run vCenter to access all the VMs we have in vSphere. Kinda twisty poetic justice.

  5. Mike Moyle

    I use VBox on an OS X host, since: A - It's free, and; B - I can keep it running in the background for, essentially, instant access to the one or two Windows apps that I need occasionally.

    Also, I work for a small municipal government department and -- as far as I can tell -- the city's system seems to assume that any request coming from a Mac inside the firewall MUST be coming from a school computer lab and so blocks access to certain websites that I often need to access (Yes; I've tried changing the browser user agent, to no avail.). Going to the said sites via the VM works without a hiccup.

    As usual, I'll give the latest version a few weeks to shake out before thinking about upgrading.

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