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Astronomers have identified a sleeping black hole that sprung back to life – after trapping a nearby star to be later consumed – due to the curved space-time around it firing X-rays into space, according to research published today in Nature. Black holes have a strong gravitational pull on any nearby objects, and if anything …

  1. asdf

    >are not actively devouring matter, and do not release any radiation

    Which is technically true because they are still absorbing radiation from the CMB huh? Even in the far future the amount they will radiate via Hawking evaporation will be trivial at any one instant as well I suppose.

    1. WalterAlter
      Holmes

      Go Ask Alice

      Painting the roses black.

  2. Tessier-Ashpool

    That's bloody clever

    Nice one, boffins!

  3. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

    Very interesting

    One minor point: tidal disruption (objects being ripped apart by a black hole) also occurs outside the event horizon (which is why we can observe it), due to the huge differential in gravitational pull between parts of an object closest to, and furthest from the black hole. It may well occur inside the event horizon, but we have no way of knowing it.

    1. mhenriday
      Boffin

      Re: Very interesting

      Indeed, as the Reg pointed out a few years back. It's the enormous gravitational force, dependent upon an objects mass, wot does it, not whether that force is produced by a black hole or other body....

      Henri

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Very interesting

        I thought that general relativity dispensed with the notion of gravity as a force and replaced it with the curvature of spacetime due to mass....

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No black hole required

    Nonsense. The X-rays are indisputable observation. The black hole nonsense is made up because you need something that big to exert sufficient gravitational pull to make x-rays.

    Nature uses electricity to make x-rays, such as a lightning bolt. Dentists make x-rays using electricity, and not mechanically. Saturn emits xrays, Jupiter emits xrays. No black hole required.

    1. The Mighty Biff

      Re: No black hole required

      Presumably though, the power and spectrum of X-rays detected is difficult to explain if you invoke sources other than an accretion disk. And if you can work out the size and speed of rotation of the accretion disk, then you can work out what the mass and density of the object in the middle of it is. Since you're clearly familiar with how Nature does things, you'll know that, given our current knowledge of physics you can only pack so much stuff into such a small space before you end up forming an event horizon.

      btw, saying the x-rays are created using electricity is a bit of an odd way of phrasing it. Strictly, they're the photons emitted when an outer shell electron transitions to an empty lower energy state - it's caused by an electron transition, but it's not an electric current.

      1. Rich 11

        Re: No black hole required

        btw, saying the x-rays are created using electricity is a bit of an odd way of phrasing it.

        It's sometimes a signifier that someone is about to launch into a rant about the Electric Universe. Given AC's denial of the existence of black holes, I was not looking forward to what might come next...

      2. You aint sin me, roit
        Alien

        Re: No black hole required

        X-rays are typically generated (on earth) by a CRT. Seen like that, x-rays are created by using electricity - burning off electrons, accelerating them across a vacuum, stopping them quite abruptly.

        Doesn't explain cosmological x-rays of course.

        Unless it's aliens switching on hopelessly out of date TV sets...

        1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

          "Unless it's aliens switching on hopelessly out of date TV sets..."

          Yes! That makes for a nice wacky conspiracy theory: the x-rays are emitted by the gigantic CRT displays surrounding our solar system, simulating the rest of the universe which is in fact totally different from what we are led to believe! Because, uh, reasons!

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: No black hole required

        Electric fields accelerate electrons in a magnetic field. They emit electromagnetic radiation. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation

    2. Rich 11

      Re: No black hole required

      The black hole nonsense is made up because you need something that big to exert sufficient gravitational pull to make x-rays.

      Other lines of evidence are available.

    3. TitterYeNot
      Facepalm

      Re: No black hole required

      "The black hole nonsense is made up because you need something that big to exert sufficient gravitational pull to make x-rays."

      GAH! Of course! Why did we not see it before! It's obviously aetheric aliens and their massive electric death ray...

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Could dormant black holes be the Dark Matter we seek?

    1. annodomini2

      Some of it yes.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Discovery Channel Science

    This article is a bit like a typical Discovery Channel science program - oversimplified, factually wrong in some respects and ultimately misleading.

    "...a dormant black hole will awaken and start a feeding frenzy..."

    Black Holes are neither dormant and nor can they 'awake' - this suggests a change in activity or a change of state of the BH. They are, like their name suggests, essentially a hole in space and any activity or dormancy occurs in the material around the BH, not in the BH itself.

    "...if anything ventures past its event horizon..."

    If anything ventures past the Event Horizon of a BH then any consequences are unobservable to us, or anyone else. Once again, the clue's in the name - events are not observable beyond the Event Horizon; we can only observe events occurring outside the EH.

    Btw, the plural of 'spacecraft' is 'spacecraft'.

    @AC: "Could dormant black holes be the Dark Matter we seek?"

    A very small proportion could be but overall, no. BHs are formed from baryonic material and insufficient baryonic material was formed in the Big Bang to account for the total amount of Dark Matter required to explain what we observe. In addition, if all of the DM were in the form of BHs then the microlensing effects we see due to DM would have different characteristics.

  7. Bucky 2
    Coat

    I guess Clara didn't show it her leaf, then.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Re: Dormant black holes are hard to detect

    Well, DUH, they're black and always in the dark corners of the universe!

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