FBI sets out case against anthrax 'rogue scientist'

Land of the free?

Awful convienent that for years the FBI had no clue until they started pressing this guy, who then tops himsel (Sure could be because of guilt and not wanting to go to jail, But could also be because he had the feds on his ass 24/7).

Guess the had to find someone to take the blame at the end of the day. Lets hope this SUSPECT was the person, but lets not forget even in the US there is innocent until proven guilty.

Silly question

If the evidence is circumstantial, then of COURSE there's still room for doubt. Else the evidence would not be circumstantial.

Sheesh are you guys lazy today or what??

A well presented case...

Although I've heard faith-healers make more compelling arguments.

Pick a number less than 100

37 Anderson Ave Warwick... (Map quest thing caught my eye, what is that about?)

Where's the handwriting evidence among all that seized stuff (where's the distinctive slanting writing, surely he must have filled in some form in the past?!! You seized used carbon paper with handwriting on it, what did that look like, the folders presumably had names written on them, the video cassettes etc.).

Why are you saying unsent *letters* when you mean drafts on a computer hard disk? (FBI claims unsent letters in fake names, search warrants don't show any just hard disks).

Which colleague said "ivins told me he was having paranoid delusions", how can they be delusions if he knows they're not real??

How many of those letters under 'false names' are from kingbadger7@aol.com, or chunkylover4@hotmail.com..... ??? Did you mean drafts or unsent emails????

How come you kept searching and researching the car? I see it many times in the search list.

The FBI report says he worked nights in the lab, but the letters were posted from Princeton, which seems to be nearly a 7 hour round trip.... fuel refills... credit card receipts... etc.??? where are they? Did he take the night off on the day before the letters were sent (he'd need a window of 7 hours or more).. I see the evidence is missing there.

Where 08-429's warrant return?

What's the evidence of him working alone?

Unproven, unreliable

All that is presented is what the FBI thinks most favorable. Given the other high profile cases in which the FBI has acted shamefully and incompetently (Richard Jewell, Wen Ho Lee, Hatfill, and others across the years) I do not believe they are worthy of trust.

The FBI has a history and policy of applying maximum pressure against anyone they target, even casually (remember all the 60’s folk whose workplaces were visited by “Special Agents” who made ominous claims that often cost people their jobs); in this case the pressure may have been enourmous--and enough on its own to cause suicide, even absent guilt.

The tactics so far described should be curbed even if Ivins was guilty. They are a stain on the US, as is the FBI’s near-legendary arrogance and incompetence.

It's a standards of proof issue

The evidence presented so far would easily justify a grand jury's bringing initial charges under the U. S. system.

The problem comes because of the definition of reasonable doubt in an actual trial. It's quite reasonable in this particular case to point out that there is enormous political pressure being brought to bear on the FBI to resolve the matter before the coming election, and equally reasonable to point out that this is the third person the F. B. I. has accused, and the circumstantial evidence in the other two accusations also sounded at least fairly plausible as it was presented in the media. It's 'reasonable' in other words to be extra-suspicious of malicious prosecution or gross incompetence. This is blow-back from the administrations overall actions. It is not fair to blame this solely on the F. B. I., as the root causes extend to much of the government, or at least have tendrils throughout the whole Executive branch. If there is call for investigating the F. B. I. , remember that, and urge your legislative and judicial branches not to focus on just firing a few administrators within the bureau and claiming that has fixed the problem.

Battelle

So the anthrax was produced by Battelle, the same company who employs Dr. Kanatjan Alibekov AKA Ken Alibek formerly of Biopreparat, the Soviet bioweapons manufacturer, who brought the technology to create the small particle, highly aerogenic anthrax used in the attacks to the US, but the FBI expects us to believe it was Ivins, who didnt know how to weaponise the anthrax? Of course the other question is why would a smart scientist like Ivins put anthrax with granularity smaller than the holes in a paper envelope in one to send it? Of course if it was part of the CIA operation that sent anthrax substitute around the US in tests that had a much larger grain size than the Alibek / Battelle weaponised anthrax it would make sense, but then we have CIA and Battelle bio-terror conspiracy.

Looking back.

Actually it was this part of the statistical spike that got me a bit worried.

To recap.

Airplanes, anthrax, snipers, smiley face mail bombers; right now today; no rest.

What were the odds?

So I started thinking enemy action; then just like Mort Kelly I figured out we were the enemy.

Fine, lay low, they are killing people at that point.

I was even warned by my friends that if I were right I had better keep my mouth shut.

But it has been seven years, I am not the only person that is some what suspicious; I am certainly not the only person to think that maybe Bush and co. murdered about 3000 people to (as Karl Rove put it) make this a one party country*.

Whatever.

You might want to take a close look at the Blair fellow; he seems to be a fellow traveler.

*You know, one party like the communist party but called Republican.

(B*st*rd.)