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Labour asks for more concessions on the UK's Snoopers' Charter
After winning a review of Blighty's Investigatory Powers Bill, the Shadow Home Secretary has repeated Labour's discomfort over the Snoopers' Charter. In an open letter to Home Secretary Theresa May, Andy Burnham stated he was “grateful for the changes that [the Home Secretary had] agreed to make on the two issues that you …
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Friday 27th May 2016 08:03 GMT Anonymous Coward
Labour's "discomfort" over the Snoopers' Charter
That seems a bit rich, given that the whole snooper's charter has its roots back in Jack Straw's day as Home Secretary.
When it comes to Westminster, there's nothing to choose between any of them, just a bunch of lazy, over-paid, vain, incompetent, self obsessed, illiberal fuckwits.
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Friday 27th May 2016 08:30 GMT Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse
Re: Labour's "discomfort" over the Snoopers' Charter
I agree with you that the current state is due to Labours initiation of these bills. I am also no fan of either Andy Burnham, Labour, or the current Conservative government. But... in this case, would you rather that Andy Burnham was simply saying nothing? Or would you rather he continue to make noise to try to address the huge gaps in consistency and detail in this draft bill?
I get your point that in your mind he is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. But stories like this one at least give me the slight flicker of hope that this won't come to be law without some serious challenge from political opposition and other industry and private interested parties.
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Friday 27th May 2016 09:57 GMT Richard Wharram
Re: Labour's "discomfort" over the Snoopers' Charter
It is quite easy to suspect this is just Labour going through the motions to look good to the electorate and to get a bit of a kicking into the Tories with their slim majority.
Wasn't Burnham around when Jack Straw and Jacqui Smith were proposing pretty much the same thing? Not that it would be a surprise for him to change his opinions. He seems to get a new set of opinions and convictions based on each morning's newspaper headlines.
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Friday 27th May 2016 18:07 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Labour's "discomfort" over the Snoopers' Charter
"If Corbyn isn't kicking up a fuss about this then he personally is fine with it and " ... and should have it done to himself, with every single email, phone call, letter, bill, the lot all published
same with the rest of them .... after all, if it's ok for the people, then it's just fine for the people's elected representatives .....
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Saturday 28th May 2016 07:50 GMT Doctor Syntax
Re: Labour's "discomfort" over the Snoopers' Charter
"If Corbyn isn't kicking up a fuss about this then he personally is fine with it"
It's Burnham's remit. He's Shadow Home Sec & it's a Home Sec bill. That said, I wonder if there's a big clue half way through the article. The NUJ objects. Got to listen to their masters in the unions.
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Saturday 28th May 2016 00:35 GMT swampdog
Re: Labour's "discomfort" over the Snoopers' Charter
There's only so much one can do...
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10354/chris_leslie/nottingham_east
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publicwhip/member/41179#divisions
...My experience of this "right honorable gentleman" is he is a clueless twat when confronted by IT. So clueless in fact, that when he decided to ignore me over OpenRights issues, he simply stopped talking to me. His PR machine emails me every week.
I made the mistake of answering a (political) medical query.
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Friday 27th May 2016 10:46 GMT Sir Sham Cad
Re: Referendum
No, hell no. As much as I abhor this Government there's such a thing as Voter Fatigue and with the Scottish IndyRef, General Election, Local/Mayoral elections and the EU Ref all within a short space of time and with this being such a low priority/visibility issue for the majority of the population who aren't as interested/invested in IT security and privacy issues as the like of us El Reg readers, turnout could well be fuck all enough to allow the bill to pass in whichever monstrous form Theresa May so chooses because terropaedogrants is planning attacks on house prices innit.
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Saturday 28th May 2016 07:54 GMT Doctor Syntax
Re: Referendum
"As much as I abhor this Government there's such a thing as Voter Fatigue"
I used to live in N Ireland where there were local parliamentary elections and a referendum which IIRC was timed to fall fairly close to at least some of the others. The motto there is "vote early, voter often". Being dead was no impediment to voting.
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Friday 27th May 2016 17:49 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Referendum
No, its not negotiable. You can't vote away someone else privacy right, but everyone is free to opt in and hand their surfing data over to the Theresa's lot.
I notice a pattern where weak people will see a uniform and obey the person in it regardless of the dip shit idea they spout. I notice that seems to pervade the Home Secretaries office.
I can't tell the difference between Jacqui Smith and Theresa May. They both speak with someone else's voice, same talking points, same 'terrorists pedo criminals' scare tactic. I guess they're following someone in a uniform covered in shiny badges and medals. And somehow the combination of cotton and metal confuses them.
There's absolutely no reason we would remove checks and balances from a system simply because a man is in a uniform and weak thinkers confuse "uniform = good, no uniform = bad".
So the people NOT in uniform are bad, and need the police to check them, yet the people in uniform are all good and don't need to have their choice checks by anyone. Yet the uniform is removable. When they're not wearing the uniform do they suddenly become bad and need to be checked?
When a Chief Constable decides he wants to spy on his officers surfing history, how does Theresa handle the conflict. Both sides are in uniform! Which is the good guys?!
So the choices she's made, the don't stand the basic tests and they have to go. I'm sure there will be many men in fancy dress on TV telling us this surveillance is the right thing, but its not. Simply imagine them naked, sans uniform, looking at your private porn surfing, because that's what people do, and take off the uniform and they're just people, flaws and all.
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Friday 27th May 2016 11:28 GMT Anonymous Coward
Sunset clause
Was added because it was wisely thought a review of this is necessary. Dont worry these laws aren't permanent we were told.... Yet they rush to renew them. Ok forever temporary, politians are killers of meaning in language just because white can be reasonably termed as black to the ignorant idiots.