Comcast plays New York anti-porn game

fcc

shouldn't the FCC view the blocking of all usnet groups ala at&t, the same way that they view the blocking or throttling of bit torrent?

Out here

In California, comcast has not done news group in 3 years . So who's to say Comcast was not going to get rid of news groups any ways

Stop it all

Shutdown usenet. Stop all p2p, close all file sharing sites, disband all postal services from all nations.Shutdown Fed-Ex, UPS et al. Stop all email services. Stop all file transfer on IRC and block all ftp traffic and maybe just maybe a noticeable impact may be made on the distribution of child porn. Finally set up CCTV in all public places and look for people exchanging brown paper bags or envelopes. Even with these measures child pornographers will still find a way to disseminate their images.

Is it really impossible to track down those who post to newsgroups, other than those who hijack wifi or use unmonitored Internet cafes? Surely it would be better to let child pornographers post away and try to find them, rather than forcing this kind of activity further underground.

WMD kiddie porn

Ever since the Soviets disappeared kiddie porn has become the de facto political weapon of first resort

"From LA in the west to London in the east a moral curtain has descended across the internet, behind that line lie uncountable piles of pron which if viewed..."

Maybe I'm missing something here.

Surely, the way to catch the pornographers is NOT to shut down their lines of communication. Just quietly follow and track them and when you have enough evidence jump, really hard and fast.

ISP News connections

I can't imagine anybody who uses Usenet to access binary groups actually using their ISP bundled feed anyway, most of them are very poor in comparison to even the cheapest premium service.

I would much rather ISP's drop bundled newsgroup connections and knock a couple of quid off their subscription charges instead, the majority of punters have no idea what Usenet is, and those that do use it for access to binary groups generally end up paying for an account with a premium news provider anyway.

Gopher finally died

Why not usenet?

It's a very old system and perhaps it's outlived its usefulness.

I used to be quite active on Usenet, but the level of discourse finally fell to such juvenile levels I totally stopped using it 5 years or so ago. For discussions, there are endless web-based fora, though these have had the effect of balkanizing many topics. Mailing lists are still a very viable means of distributing discussions, esp. if there's a firm hand on the moderation tiller.

For pr0n, it's a little trickier, but not an insuperable obstacle, to distribute it. I rather suspect that the hardcore lovers of kiddy pr0n do not use newsgroups.

@idiotas

Well, a National Geographic style usenet group that shows naked native children will be considered kiddie porn now and a nudist family with a naked child in the group shot will be kiddie porn also the proud parents group with a naked shot of a new born will be kiddie porn now so it easy to see that 88+ groups will exist.

What we need is clothing standards set for kids, like the standards that were set for bathers in Victorian times. (neck to knee)

And any parent that allows their kid to see with more flesh showing than proscribed amount be immediately hauled off to the big house. (especially the evil, guilty male parent)

Newsgroups and NNTP traffic

As far as I know, none of the ISPs involved have blocked NNTP traffic. They've just shut down servers that they control.

(Tiscali in the UK seems to block all NNTP traffic, for maybe a third of the day, as part of their traffic management, apparently at "peak times".)

But now, if you pay for a Premium Service which still happens to carry the 88 alleged child porn newsgroups, are you going to be a target for another Operation Ore?

flame on

*puts on flame proof jacket and hat*

I have to ask this but how exactley do they think that removing images of the internet will help children where being abused before the camra was invemnted so stoping pepol documenting and then distrubatig thses images will not help yes these pictures are prob illagle and depict illagle acts but the all out efort to remove them is not realy goign to help 1 child 1 little bit

Won't somebody think of hte children

Surly the only important aspect here is: "What does Barack Obama think?"

That is all that matters in the US right now isn't it?

I'm sure that if he made an announcement that he was against child porn, the problem could be solved overnight.

Its not that hard

As a former Telewest employee in UK we had very little problem keeping or news servers free of this stuff. Theres a list issued by someone (can't remember where) of dodgy groups which we didn't carry and our user base was very good at letting us know if a group was becoming infested with paedo stuff. We'd just drop the group.

Not difficult and certainly theres no justification for dropping all binaries.

@@idiotas

Mmmmmm neck to knee is my thing mmmmm and big victorian pants.

Or not - but whatever you do it'll turn someone somewhere on.

Simple solution

We just need Dateline's Chris Hanson to get involved and this would all go away...

Why don't you have a seat over there?

@stu

my keyboard is fine my brain is knackered