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Microsoft's boffins in its New York research lab are encouraging a Minecraft character to teach itself how to climb a hill. Their work, described here, is an advertisement for AIX. No, not the Unix – Redmond's platform, due to be open-sourced this summer, that helps computer scientists test their machine-learning algorithms in …

  1. graeme leggett Silver badge

    wondering if

    Reference to climbing hills is deliberate?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_climbing

  2. well meaning but ultimately self defeating

    Virtual world, with AI slaves bound to pointless tasks.

    Uncomfortable analogies aside, it has been revealed. The singularity will occur in Minecraft.....and it will be angry.

    Shrub anyone?

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge
      Terminator

      Re: Virtual world, with AI slaves bound to pointless tasks.

      Although it will be for single player Minecraft now, there are plans to put AIs in multiplayer games played over the Internet. That's going to end well.

      No. 1 rule... don't connect AIs to the Internet.

    2. DropBear
      Joke

      Re: Virtual world, with AI slaves bound to pointless tasks.

      And you think nobody thought of that? Of the need for proper containment when that occurs? What did you think Angry Birds was for...?!?

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Virtual world, with AI slaves bound to pointless tasks.

      The singularity will occur in Minecraft.....and it will be angry.

      Now all we can do is hope that it won't be a creeper, because that would have quite some impact ;)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Virtual world, with AI slaves bound to pointless tasks.

        Oooh, AI zombie Apocalypse (backed up with skellie archers) in Minecraft! Now THAT'D make the game refreshingly challenging!

  3. Dave 126 Silver badge

    >Redmond's platform, due to be open-sourced this summer,

    Wait all year for one open source Ai platform, and two come along at once.

  4. Dave 126 Silver badge

    The AI has to work out its environment from its stimulus:

    "Okay Dougal, one more time: This is very small. They are far away."

    1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      It's an ekk.. ekk... ekk... DRINK!!!

  5. Justin Pasher

    The real problem

    "We need to solve the unsupervised learning problem before we can even think of getting to true AI," wrote LeCun, "and that's just an obstacle we know about. What about all the ones we don't know about?"

    And THAT'S why AI is so incredibly difficult to master. Think about how a baby learns. Sure there is some trial an error (the same as what they are doing with Minecraft), but think about how much of that learning is because they are being taught or guided by someone who already knows how to do something. If the Minecraft world was the real world, it wouldn't work at all. You can't just keep jumping into lava pits or drowning in water, learn from it, and just start over and try again. Sure you can build this "database of knowledge" over time and use that as a starting point for the real world, but like LeCun says, what about the things you've never encountered?

    The complexity of the human mind and its ability to reason and rationalize things is so much greater than any existing computer, it's almost hard to fathom. Computers can only do what they are told to do. Considering they've been around for less than a century while humans have been around for much longer, the ability to essentially create a human analogue in intelligence is mind-numbingly difficult (at least to make it even at a fraction of the level of the real thing).

    1. edge_e
      Facepalm

      Re: The real problem

      but think about how much of that learning is because they are being taught or guided by someone who already knows how to do something

      So is that when it stops playing the game because it spends all its time watching other people playing it on youtube?

    2. stucs201

      Re: jumping into lava pits or drowning in water, learn from it, and just start over

      Or perhaps you can. Evolution arguably involves that sort of thing, hence selecting organisms which have some sort of innate instinct (fear) of doing such things. The minecraft bots are just combining the evolution and individual organism learning.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Turing Evolved

    It sounds as if someone has been reading Turing Evolved by David Kitson especially the part where the AIs are living in a virtual reality environment.

    1. Nixinkome

      Re: Turing Evolved

      It doesn't seem to be Putin - he and Russia's military AI have plenty of the World to play Alpha Go with.

    2. JLV
      Thumb Up

      Re: Turing Evolved

      That was a pretty good book. More about testing than learning like here, but excellent. Makes you think.

      Wish more cheap Kindle SF was like that, rather than the crap Military SF published by the ton. By guys who probably wouldn't know actual tactics if it bit them on the ass.

  7. Yag

    SimCity for toddlers ?

    I'ld say "Lego for adults" instead

    1. Swarthy
      WTF?

      Re: SimCity for toddlers ?

      I thought that Lego was "Lego for adults".

  8. RyokuMas
    Happy

    A better approach...

    "... and teach it frustration and boredom"

    Well, I guess it's more inventive than a herring sandwich...

  9. SVV

    AIX?

    Finally we have the proof. MS have not even bothered to look around and see what a decent operating system looks like.Expect IBM to launch a new artificial intelligence, virtual reality, internet of things disruptive office glazing product soon called "Windows for Workgroups".

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge
      Alert

      Re: AIX?

      I thought AIX was UNIX with IBM's unique take on error codes.

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