FBI channels Kafka with new rules on slurping Americans' private data The murky world of surveillance turned a little more Kafkaesque this week. The FBI has quietly changed the rules on how it uses data collected by the NSA under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Section 702 has been used by the NSA to justify its PRISM program, which collects personal information and the …
The constitution does not have provisions for secret laws and courts. Once you follow the White Rabbit of national security down its hole there are no assurances constitutional or otherwise that the government is "of the people, by the people and for the people." The rules of Wonderland expand to infinity.
We are lost and without legal recourse.
"We are lost and without legal recourse."
the immoral has been legalized; the moral made illegal...
for the authoritarians in the studio audience: OUR public institutions were SUPPOSED to be set up so that they were not "TRUSTED", but had transparent oversight and public accountability; NOT secret crap on top of secret crap that we can't even tell you we do secret crap because, um, tourism ! ! ! ...or kiddie pron ! !! ...oh, i know, state sekrets ! ! !
*that* is not small-dee democracy, *that* is totalitarianism of whatever flavor you want to sprinkle on top...
what to do ? ? ?
our 'wiser' brothers and sisters would have you 'vote harder' ! ! !
*sheesh*
Ivan, I think the paper is probably worth a lot more than the current modified, repealed and re-interpreted words that used to make up the constitution. Some of the Constitution was based on the Magna Carta, the only relevant part of which that is still on the law books is this;
No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land.
To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.
Even that has been eroded and emasculated since Bliar and subsequently Dave, so don't count on any kind of right to privacy soon on either side of the pond.
>No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so,
Unless he's a foreigner in which case he clearly doesn't qualify as Human.
Also, if he is snitched on us to the people we rule. That makes him subhuman too.
When you can't trust the government, the only thing to do is treat them like any other criminal wanting to invade your privacy. That's why I applaud Apple's stand, and their further movement toward making it impossible for them to even be capable of doing what the FBI is asking in the future by preventing DFU mode software updates. I hope they also make it so the end user controls the encryption key for ALL iCloud data, not just the more sensitive stuff like passwords and health records as currently.
If Apple makes themselves completely helpless to aid the government in searching your phone or iCloud data even in the presence of a valid court order this fight will be forced out in the open. No more false cloak of secrecy in the name of "national security" as with PRISM. Once destroyed, trust can never be regained.
If the end result of this fight is that the government forces a backdoor for themselves via a law that US tech companies have no choice but to comply with, I sure hope Apple does it only for iPhones sold in the US. The US would have a hard time explaining to the rest of the world why they need a backdoor for phones sold in the UK or China and not expect backdoors left for those countries as well - and US tech companies would rightfully talk about the smoking ruin that would make the US economy if they were forced to sell such damaged products worldwide. If they make Apple sell bugged iPhones in the US you can bet I'll be having my next one shipped from overseas! And maybe send an email to the FBI Director with a picture of me unboxing my non-US phone with a picture of my middle finger included for good measure!
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