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Microsoft could have brought a Lumia phone that responded to Jedi-like hand gestures to market a year before Apple brought out its 3D Touch feature. Smartphone displays which respond to the level of pressure being applied open up new UX possibilities for designers. Apple introduced force sensitive displays in its Apple Watch …

  1. stucs201

    A loud clatter of gunk music flooded through the Heart of Gold cabin as Zaphod searched the sub-etha radio wave bands for news of himself. The machine was rather difficult to operate. For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive--you merely had to brush the panels with your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the general direction of the components and hope. It saved a lot of muscular expenditure, of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly still if you wanted to keep listening to the same program

    1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

      Scarily prescient

      That quote's from a very long time ago, you know.

      1. Adrian 4

        Re: Scarily prescient

        It is indeed .. but in the meantime, developers have learned nothing.

        I'm getting really annoyed by desktops that respond to normal mouse movements by changing window sizes, opening unwanted interfaces, etc. etc. I most certainly don't want that to extend to changing when I merely reach across the desk.

  2. N2
    Trollface

    Looks like

    They are bang up to date using their old Internet Explorer logo

    1. TeeCee Gold badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Looks like

      There's a reason that Edge is called Edge you know.

      It begins with "E".

      It's the same logo.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      FAIL

      Re: Looks like

      It's not the same logo, but also clearly someone can't read:

      Filing Date: 08/18/2014

  3. hplasm
    Meh

    Jedi Phone from MS

    A Lumia, with a Kinect bolted on top.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This must mean

    Microsoft are about to close down their phone division

    1. tirk

      Re: This must mean

      Microsoft are about to close down their phone division

      According to the latest Gartner gues^w report, Windows smartphone market share for q4 2015 is down to 1.1% (from 2.8% for q4 2014), so they are well on the way! At that rate we will be selling phones to MS by this next year.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Microsoft failing in the phone market isn't really a good thing

        While most Reg readers wouldn't shed a tear if Microsoft is forced to abandon the phone market due to lack of success (or chooses to continue to lose money trying to preserve their 1% share) given that Blackberry has gone Android, Microsoft dropping out isn't exactly good for consumers. It reduces us to only two choices, Apple or Android.

        The only way a third player could gain a foothold in this market is if Google tightens the screws too much on what OEMs can do with it. They've done that with the last few major Android releases and will probably continue to do so, but so far it hasn't been enough to cause any shifts. If they ever push too hard, we might see another OS spring up, probably from Samsung. It would almost certainly be based on Linux and app-compatible with Android - in order to have a chance of gaining any traction. So I'm not sure how different it would really be, other than allowing more OEM customization and less Google tracking.

        A decade ago if anyone suggested that Apple and Google would own almost 100% of the phone market by 2016, you would have thought they'd lost their mind!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          As Dr McCoy would say "Windows 10 Mobile-He's Dead, Jim"

          "It would almost certainly be based on Linux and app-compatible with Android - in order to have a chance of gaining any traction. So I'm not sure how different it would really be, other than allowing more OEM customization and less Google tracking"

          What you wrote could have almost been written 3 years ago.

          You're describing (pretty much) is Amazon's high profile Fire Phone and that sold an estimated 35000 phones or alternatively, a Nokia X. It would be very odd to bring back something MS sidelined to promote Windows Phone 7/8 (Apollo), at the time; i.e. An underlying Android Platform with a Windows 10 Mobile interface.

          The Youtube Dr McCoy's 'He's dead Jim' Star-trek post above sums it up well, because there seems to almost a mential block and lot of trouble convincing Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile diehards, what is staring them in the face.

          Companies/Consumers have moved on. They build solutions with iPhones or Android ecosystems. The infrastructure is there, even from MS, to support these two platforms.

          Microsoft have cut the funding to Windows Phone, written off the Nokia purchase, they have cut the combined staff, MS Marketing have all but, decimated Lumia/Nokia branding MS bought.

          An OEM based Phoenix from the Ashes won't happen, it doesn't have a chance in those circumstances. There is just no love of the platform and that seems from Satya Nadella down.

          Consumers don't seem interested (not at any level that makes a profit anyway). Operators certainly aren't interested and OEMs, even if they have one last shot (new Sony Vaio), are going to lose money, all for the sake of keeping MS on-side regarding their Windows 10 Desktop OEM licence negotiations.

          At best going forward, Windows 10 Mobile will remain a virtualised platform in the form of the Windows Mobile 10 Phone Emulator, running under full-fat Windows / Visual Studio, so that some future point, it could grow some real grassroots support, rather than been the "forced" third ecosystem.

          As Dr McCoy would say "Windows 10 Mobile-He's Dead, Jim"

        2. Montreal Sean

          Re: Microsoft failing in the phone market isn't really a good thing

          Hmm, what's needed is another phone OS that is app compatible with Android?

          You mean like BBOS 10?

          That did well now didn't it?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      This can only mean one thing...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH7KYmGnj40

  5. ravenviz Silver badge
    Happy

    .:.

    10. The big toe

    11. More naughty bits

    12. The naughty bits of a lady

    13. The naughty bits of a horse

    14. The naughty bits of an ant

    15. The naughty bits of Reginald Maudling

    106. Hands

  6. Sir Barry

    Obi-Wan

    "This is not the phone you are looking for"

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Well.......

    <img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02515/Ronnie-Biggs_2515225b.jpg">

  8. Yugguy
    Thumb Down

    You only need one gesture for a Windows Phone shurely?

    Raise the arm, crook the elbow, make a fist, extend the middle finger.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Samsung has had hover options on their phones for what, 4 years?

    When the Samsung Galaxy S4 was released last year, Samsung included a feature called Air Gesture. This feature allows you to navigate your smartphone like moving between pictures and images, scrolling through email, accepting incoming calls, or checking for notifications without physically touching your Android device screen.

  10. Terry Barnes

    Hover?

    This may be just my imagination, but my 930 appears to offer 'hover' on the most sensitive settings. It's possible to operate the phone without actually touching it, tiles and buttons can be activated by almost but not quite touching the screen.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Hover?

      Same on my 920, don't it happening my 950.

    2. L05ER

      Re: Hover?

      My 1020 has a hover setting for the clock reveal, not sure if it is using this tech tho.

      It's a shame Microsoft has ruined this windows phone reboot... I'm finally switching to android. WinPhone has all the apps I need... But ripping out social integration is a deal breaker, since nobody does hardware accessories for this thing (IE:FLIR)...

  11. Tom 7

    Can the gesture where the phone is raised to 45 degrees above the horizontal

    at arms length, camera facing, trigger a drone attack on the GPS coordinates please?

    1. Snowy Silver badge

      Re: Can the gesture where the phone is raised to 45 degrees above the horizontal

      and if it longer than two arms length two drone attacks it case the first misses?

    2. Mark 85

      Re: Can the gesture where the phone is raised to 45 degrees above the horizontal

      There's an app for that. Hellfires are available for an extra charge.

  12. gryff

    same same?

    There were already prototype apps which used the selfie camera to drive user interaction four to five years ago, before MS bought the Nokia Mobile Phones business. This is perhaps the next iteration.

  13. Gene Cash Silver badge

    "force sensitive"

    Hahaha. I gets it! I do!

    Does Apple have to transfuse midichlorians from Tim's bloodstream?

  14. Petalium

    petalium@gmail.com

    I just don't get the disdain for windows phones. I have iPhones and android phones, but the only phone that works consistently without any hiccups is my windows phone. No restarts no frozen UI just works...

    1. hplasm
      Holmes

      Re: petalium@gmail.com

      You have too many phones...

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