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NASA reckons it's well on the way to restoring US human spaceflight capabilities with confirmation of the second booking for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner. Boeing - along with SpaceX and its Crew Dragon spacecraft - is moving towards establishing space taxi services to the International Space Station as part of the Commercial …

  1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
    Paris Hilton

    "Sustainable future on ISS"

    What happened to the idea to de-orbit the old golden battlehorse anyway?

    1. Matthew 17

      Re: "Sustainable future on ISS"

      Still happening but they've extended operation beyond 2020 now.

  2. Stuart 22

    50 Years On ...

    They could swop that straight into the Smithsonian to replace Apollo and few would spot the difference.

    Looks like we need a third contender with something a little different and a tad more exciting. George Lucas launching something from Pinewood Studios? I would have said Stanley Kubrik who really knew how today's space vehicles should look back in 1968. Imaginative use of plywood. We could even save a bit of a forest and use this 'Starliner' as a double for Dr. Dave Bowman's Pod.

    My lips never moved.

    1. AndyS

      Re: 50 Years On ...

      Why should things necessarily "look" significantly different just because some years have passed?

      Do you think most people could tell the difference between a Boeing 737 from 1967 and a modern one? And yet they are very different aircraft.

    2. Swarthy

      Re: 50 Years On ...

      I would think that things would have changes in 50-odd (very odd) years; but, on the other hand, some things are just defined by what they do. Mayhap the engineers 50 years ago picked the ultimate best-function design, and as far as the shape and form, we've not had any significant updates to improve it.

      It would be ungood to go changing things to make it look "more modern", that way lies joss sticks and whalesong, not to mention nasally fitted fire.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: 50 Years On ...

        More like "least worst" design given current state of the art and budget-time constraints.

    3. Killing Time

      Re: 50 Years On ...

      Well they now have mood lighting and 'wireless internet and tablet technology for crew interfaces' .

      So it's toys and games while they are waiting for the door to open...

    4. Simon Harris

      Re: 50 Years On ...

      "a tad more exciting"?

      If I was being launched into a hostile environment on top of half a million gallons or so of explosive fuel the last thing I'd want is more excitement!

      1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: 50 Years On ...

        Yeah but do you REALLY want to pass on tweeting your excitement to followers while blogging about the UX of the capsule and keeping an eye on the latest Trump/Hillary soundtardbite from the corner of your eye?

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Coffee/keyboard

    "Starliner"

    Can I sue for false advertising??

    Yeah, 1960s tech tarted up to look modern, we should have proper space planes capable of taking off an landing on standard commercial runways by now.

    Spluttered coffee all over my keyboard !!!

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

      Re: "Starliner"

      Eagles would be nice (but one has to invent wormholes first to transfer reaction mass to these elegant birds while they fly)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "Starliner"

        Yeah, I liked the Eagle, but I am not sure I have the legs for flared spacesuits.

  4. GBE

    As enjoyed by passengers aboard [...] airliners.

    "As enjoyed by passengers aboard [...] airliners."

    Um, I think the verb you're looking for is "survived" or "endured".

  5. BurnT'offering

    Considerably more legroom than Easyjet

    And, at 220 pounds, a higher carry-on allowance. A bargain!

  6. Pen-y-gors

    WiFi for control systems?

    Is it a coincidence that today we also have the story of Iranian hackers targetting US control systems. What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Wzrd1 Silver badge

      Re: WiFi for control systems?

      "What could possibly go wrong?"

      If they're flying within WIFI range or in orbit in WIFI range, they're welcome to do whatever they want to do.

      Seriously, if they are in orbit or flying alongside of a hypersonic rocket headed into orbit, do you honestly think they'll be breaking WPA2 Enterprise encryption?

  7. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge

    And there I was thinking that we were in 2015

    and not 1965

    So how does this capsule differ from the Mecrury ones of the mid 1960's. Sure there is some more high tech but shirley the all mighty USofA could come up with some new designs or was there no money left in the NASA budget for even a slight re-design.

    Sad. How the mighty have fallen.

    The chinese must be laughing at them.

    1. Killing Time

      Re: And there I was thinking that we were in 2015

      Errr... I think the Chinese are pretty much mimicking the US and the Russian designs.

      There are only so many variations on a shape which can sit on top of a rocket, contain personnel and equipment, be robust enough to maintain itself as a pressure vessel through multiple pressurisation / depressurisation cycles and have the requisite aerodynamics and toughness to survive multiple re-entries. The mention of a weld-less design indicates they are working on the durability,welds are a real point of weakness in a pressure cycling equipment.

      What were you expecting? Something out of Flash Gordon with a control desk and decked out with vanes and pointy bits?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: And there I was thinking that we were in 2015

        China licensed the design Russia uses, then modified it to have more additional space and one more crew member.

      2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: And there I was thinking that we were in 2015

        "What were you expecting? Something out of Flash Gordon with a control desk and decked out with vanes and pointy bits?"

        That would be a good start. Then it needs rocket engines that sound like a blocked up vacuum cleaner and light up like a bunch of sparklers giving little, if any, apparent thrust while it lands softly on it's belly with no supporting thrust.

        1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

          Re: And there I was thinking that we were in 2015

          It also has a container with particularly gorgeous girlswomen.

          Every spaceship needs that!

    2. Wzrd1 Silver badge

      Re: And there I was thinking that we were in 2015

      "So how does this capsule differ from the Mecrury ones of the mid 1960's."

      We can tell that you're ignorant on the subject. Mercury was a 1950's program, Apollo was the entire 1960's through 1972.

      Let's see, modern materiel, more leg room, different and much improved electronics, for starters.

      The physics doesn't change because the year is different.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Is that 220 pounds per passenger or total? Since the original specs call for up to seven passengers and at least their basic flight suit/gear/seats, there should be several hundred pounds left and a lot of free space with only four.

    1. imanidiot Silver badge

      Thats 220 pounds total afaik

  9. Gordon 10
    Flame

    Preferential Treatment

    AFAIK the CST100 hasn't even left the Earths atmosphere (first flight Jan 2017 if it doesn't slip) whereas Dragon has done 3? cargo runs already. OK its not the crew version but surely it warrants better treatment than Boeing's paltry effort?

    Can anyone say Pork?

    I look forward to watching the Boeing date slip and Nasa having to go cap in hand to Space-X.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    SpaceX landing makes this looks like a museum re-enactment of the 1960s

    Compared to SpaceX plans, this look like a museum re-enactment of the 1960s. Funnily still they (Boing) got a lot bigger pot of gold. Go figure, lobbyists are earning their pay I guess?

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